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Re: Focused mode
Caleb Neyenhuis
Yes it happens on audeo games which is what i play
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Re: Focused mode
Gene
But most programs don't use browse mode and forms
mode. Are you saying that if you are in Wordpad, for example, this
happens? If you are in a browser or an e-mail program, reading mail as
HTML, or in Adobe Reader, I can see that this might happen. But are you
saying it happens in other programs that don't use browse and forms
mode?
Gene
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Re: Focused mode
Gene
Also, what program are you entering and leaving
sleep mode in and what version of NVDA are you using? On further thought,
you may be saying you are stuck in forms mode. That may be the problem
that was discussed here perhaps two or three months ago where, if you shut down
NVDA while a browser is opened, then run it again, you will be stuck in forms
mode unless you close and open the browser again. My recollection is that
this problem was corrected in a recent update of NVDA.
Exit sleep mode in what program? Are you
describing what happens when you use sleep in a browser and turn it off when in
the browser? I don't know why that is but just pressing escape should
return you to browse mode. I didn't understand exactly what you were
asking in your first question but if escape works, it's probably the easiest way
to deal with the problem.
Gene
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Re: Focused mode
Caleb Neyenhuis
Its pritty much every program i leave if i leave sleep mode on while leaving the program
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Re: Focused mode
Gene
Exit sleep mode in what program? Are you
describing what happens when you use sleep in a browser and turn it off when in
the browser? I don't know why that is but just pressing escape should
return you to browse mode. I didn't understand exactly what you were
asking in your first question but if escape works, it's probably the easiest way
to deal with the problem.
Gene
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Re: firefox 59 64 bit
Bobby Vinton
Fire fox is a lot faster than 57 was. Just give it a try and I
bet you like a lot.
On 3/14/2018 4:15 PM, Chris via
Groups.Io wrote:
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Re: Focused mode
Caleb Neyenhuis
I am enabling sleep mode on application and when I exit the application focus mode turns on without me touching
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Re: firefox 59 64 bit
Chris
Actually its a lot faster than the old esr you like so much
From: Felix G.
Sent: 14 March 2018 20:02 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox 59 64 bit
Hi! If you can live with a slight speed penalty compared to the ESR, then yes, it's the way to go. It's just been officially released and shouldn't give you much trouble. Greetings, Felix
Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> schrieb am Mi., 14. März 2018 um 19:18 Uhr:
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Re: firefox 59 64 bit
Felix G.
Hi! If you can live with a slight speed penalty compared to the ESR, then yes, it's the way to go. It's just been officially released and shouldn't give you much trouble.Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> schrieb am Mi., 14. März 2018 um 19:18 Uhr:
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Re: firefox 59 64 bit
Chris
Best version of firefox so far 😃
From: Don H
Sent: 14 March 2018 18:12 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] firefox 59 64 bit
My firefox just updated itself to version 59 64 bit. I am running NVDA 2018-1 on my Win10 64 bit laptop. Is this best firefox to be using with NVDA? Are there any firefox settings that should be changed to work best with NVDA 2018-1? Thanks
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firefox 59 64 bit
Don H
My firefox just updated itself to version 59 64 bit. I am running NVDA 2018-1 on my Win10 64 bit laptop. Is this best firefox to be using with NVDA? Are there any firefox settings that should be changed to work best with NVDA 2018-1?
Thanks
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Re: Wordpress alert
Well brian I hope not.
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This is a new engine that wordpress is working to replace their old classic version. Sadly wordpress.com really could be better, m.wordpress.com is ofcause fine but to be honest I am unsure. At least wordpress has an access team that unlike microsoft actually communicate properly with each team and they all talk. I wouldn't say ms access doesn't care but there is an obvious coms gap between all the teams which is a bit of a shame, not bad but a shame so we get skype which well isn't as good as we would like etc. In this case, gutenberg had a few issues initially but it was more of a long winded chore rather than anything else. Now its completely crap though it has a few extra nice features. However it does appear after my damning report I and the rest of the test team or at least its leaders gave to the dev teams that they are taking this seriously, I got an email stating yesterday quite quickly that they are handling this and are trying to fix. We are at 4.9. something, so 5 is going to have to be released at some point sooner or later with or without accessibility so we need to get it right if we can. If we can't I am going to load classic editor on sites I admin, I will wait to see if the new engine is however accessible. But if its not a stop gap measure is this classic editor, which is not updated for at least 3 months, so it may be that way for a while. However ofcause eventually it could become incompatible given enough time. I would prefur if we got it right but worse case scenario is we don't. For those using wordpress on your site the classic editor should work I have not tried it yet. For those on wordpress.com, login and then go to m.wordpress.com which has seemed to keep the same interface since wordpress has started at least for general blogs. If you have a server using wordpress.com, it may be time to switch to a coppy of the engine from wordpress.org so you can load the classic editor on it. My hope is that wordpress actually get it right, we have a reputation to uphold, I mean I am an avid user thats why I went on the test team.
On 15/03/2018 5:00 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Will this affect the end result, ie will sites made with this new tool also be worse for access?
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Re: Firefox seems slower?
Gene
There are sites where you have to use JAVA scripts,
as I said. That's how you deal with the problem. You will have to
enable JAVA scripts before loading the page.
Gene
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i did not have this problem in quora previously. did you work with it until now? i cant sign in my account or answer any question when javascript is disabled. also, it has not edit box for writing answer to be found by e key. when javascript is enabled, when i press enter on answer link, the form writing answer is activated automaticly.. what can i do to prevent this problem? On 3/14/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: > There are many pages where you have to use JAVA scripts to do things such as > submit forms, play audio, and do other things. But a lot of pages where you > are just reading don't require JAVA scripts, and I have not seen any > degredation of layout on pages if JAVA script support is disabled. Indeed, > it often improves the layout because a lot of advertisements aren't shown > when JAVA scripts are disabled. > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 11:29 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox seems slower? > > > The problem is that if you disable scripts running on pages, though many > work some end up as a bit of a muddled mess. > > > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal E-mail to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:46 PM > Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox seems slower? > > >> its because javascript is activate by default. >> i have this problem in any version of firefox and any version of nvda >> that i tested until now! >> i did not work with chrome, but activating javascript and refresh and >> redirect of pages, also dynamic pages, make me very confused and sad. >> >> On 3/14/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io >> <bglists@...> wrote: >>> Even 52 now loads slower than it did at least the first time its run. >>> I'm not sure what is the cause for this. Is it the patch to windows for >>> that 10 year old bug, or something Firefox has added to all older and >>> new >>> versions?? >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> bglists@... >>> Sent via blueyonder. >>> Please address personal E-mail to:- >>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >>> in the display name field. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Matt Turner" <meturner2214@...> >>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >>> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:12 PM >>> Subject: [nvda] Firefox seems slower? >>> >>> >>>> Hi folks. >>>> >>>> Does anyone find that firefox is really slow? >>>> >>>> I'm using nvda 2018.1. >>>> >>>> As for firefox, I've tried all of the beta/ nightly channels, but >>>> chrome, >>>> >>>> seems to run alot faster. >>>> >>>> Is it just the computer, or just me. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> By God, >> were I given all the seven heavens >> with all they contain >> in order that >> I may disobey God >> by depriving an ant >> from the husk of a grain of barley, >> I would not do it. >> imam ali >> >> >> > > > > -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: Firefox seems slower?
gene,
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i did not have this problem in quora previously. did you work with it until now? i cant sign in my account or answer any question when javascript is disabled. also, it has not edit box for writing answer to be found by e key. when javascript is enabled, when i press enter on answer link, the form writing answer is activated automaticly.. what can i do to prevent this problem?
On 3/14/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
There are many pages where you have to use JAVA scripts to do things such as --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: Firefox seems slower?
Gene
There are many pages where you have to use JAVA
scripts to do things such as submit forms, play audio, and do other
things. But a lot of pages where you are just reading don't require JAVA
scripts, and I have not seen any degredation of layout on pages if JAVA script
support is disabled. Indeed, it often improves the layout because a lot of
advertisements aren't shown when JAVA scripts are disabled.
Gene
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Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox seems slower? work some end up as a bit of a muddled mess. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox seems slower? > its because javascript is activate by default. > i have this problem in any version of firefox and any version of nvda > that i tested until now! > i did not work with chrome, but activating javascript and refresh and > redirect of pages, also dynamic pages, make me very confused and sad. > > On 3/14/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io > <bglists@...> wrote: >> Even 52 now loads slower than it did at least the first time its run. >> I'm not sure what is the cause for this. Is it the patch to windows for >> that 10 year old bug, or something Firefox has added to all older and new >> versions?? >> >> Brian >> >> bglists@... >> Sent via blueyonder. >> Please address personal E-mail to:- >> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >> in the display name field. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Matt Turner" <meturner2214@...> >> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> >> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:12 PM >> Subject: [nvda] Firefox seems slower? >> >> >>> Hi folks. >>> >>> Does anyone find that firefox is really slow? >>> >>> I'm using nvda 2018.1. >>> >>> As for firefox, I've tried all of the beta/ nightly channels, but >>> chrome, >>> >>> seems to run alot faster. >>> >>> Is it just the computer, or just me. >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> >> >> > > > -- > By God, > were I given all the seven heavens > with all they contain > in order that > I may disobey God > by depriving an ant > from the husk of a grain of barley, > I would not do it. > imam ali > > >
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Re: Entering Substitutes For ASCII Type Characters In Speech Dictionary Causes NVDA To Lock UP
Ron Canazzi
Hi Group,
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Apparently, the back slash must be placed in front of any non text character such as letters or numbers when trying to change pronunciation of such characters. I took the advice given on this list and it solved the problem. I then experimented with other similar representations and got the same results.
On 3/14/2018 8:18 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I certainly don't see a crash, but I'm not using the current version of Espeak any more, the old version instead. --
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: Firefox seems slower?
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
The problem is that if you disable scripts running on pages, though many work some end up as a bit of a muddled mess.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 12:46 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox seems slower? its because javascript is activate by default.
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Re: Scanner / OCR recommendation
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Back in the old days, well today actually as I'm still doing it on windows 7, I had Office pro xp/2002, and that had office tools one item of which was scan and ocr. This worked as follows. After you loaded the drivers for the scanner in question, the program asked you to select it as default, only done the once. it then scanned each page and you could bring down a menu at any time when the scan image was on screen and an option copy recognised text to a new word document was there and you operated it and there you were. What it could be set to also do was put the unrecognised stuff in as graphics, which I found not very helpful so never allowed it.
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You could then edit it as needed It did preserve formatting in that it would attempt to use spaces to do the formatting but seldom got it completely correct. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 11:16 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation As far as I know, the document that appeared in the program window was never properly accessible. I don't have Word. I used the program a little many years ago. I would scan a page. Select all, control a, copy it to the clipboard, then paste into a Notepad file. I wanted a text copy, not a copy with formatting. It was just for my own reading. Then I would scan another page and repeat the procedure. I don’t know what the program did in general. The version I had would ask me if I wanted to save the text, as I recall. I said no and scanned the next page, selected the text, copied it to the clipboard, etc. I didn't have a program like Word to scan the text into. It was a little cumbersome but it wasn't bad. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: JM Casey Sent: Friday, March 02, 2018 5:05 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation This is good news. What do you mean by "scanner document"? -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss Sent: March 2, 2018 6:03 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Scanner / OCR recommendation Yes v14 is pritty much accessible. There are menus, and a few buttons I have never got the scanner document to be accessible but everything else is. On 3/03/2018 5:14 a.m., Mary Otten wrote: It is great that so many have good luck with Abbyy version 12, but
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Re: Wordpress alert
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Will this affect the end result, ie will sites made with this new tool also be worse for access?
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seems to me as I'm encountering lots of sites written with this, problems occur mainly due to the programmers not understanding the way to actually produce screenreader friendly apps etc. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 8:46 AM Subject: [nvda] Wordpress alert Hi.
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Re: Focused mode
Jonathan COHN
I am not sure I understand. What is the behavior you are expecting. What it sounds like to me, is that you are enabling sleep mode which essentially disables all NVDA interactions for that application unless I am completely mistaken. But you are expecting that browse mode should still work while NVDA is sleeping. Are you perhaps wanting to turn off voice output but continue working with Braille Or perhaps you are doing accessibility testing in which case you should listen to the great tutorial DeQueue created on using NVDA to test accessibility with NVDA that is available on YouTube.
Best Wishes, Jonathan
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