Hay when I am using the mail app with nvda nvda crashes every time I close the mail app after reading a message.  This just started last week when I updated to nvda 2018.1.  I was wondering if any else has this problem?

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

Sometimes addons are removed because they pose a security risk or coding issues or compatibility allsorts of reasons
On 14 Mar 2018, at 4:06 am, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@outlook.com <mailto:cyberpro224@outlook.com>> wrote:
Hi,
There's an add on called clip speak, that will do this.  I don't think its on the add ons website anymore though.  I think because It works with windows 10 without a hitch that it should be; and I can drop box it too you if you like.
Tony
On 2/3/2018 1:38 PM, Kevin wrote:

How can I set NVDA to say copy selected text to the clip board and other like commands when I copy, cut or paste!

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

Some have been better recently, but the original old version with its background noise was truly stupid. Personally, I'd have thought that by now these devices were pointless. If we all boycotted services using them, even sighted prople have issues, then they should long ago have gone the way of the dodo.
They patently do not work to stop spammers as some I've been on have had hacks and spam incidents.
Far better to make them simply use email verification confirmation.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image

Yes, the audio sometimes hardly to understand.


Robert Mendoza

On 3/13/2018 4:51 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I'm assuming there is not usable audio version on the site you want to use.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 11:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image

I know this has been posted before but could not retrieve the email about the extension or addons for Firefox that is similar with webvism. I appreciate if you could share it again here some alternative option that I could use with on the Firefox ESR to solve the capture or verification image.


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Robert Mendoza

You could contribute to github, there is already an issue for this situation, #7986.

You could explain your situation there and upload the log file as .txt file.

Best

Adriani

I restarted nvda so it would be fresh. I then launched outlook – then pressed enter on the message. Outlook restarted – then I pressed nvda-f1 and copied the log to you. What else can I do to get you the relevant info?

Thanks,

Sam

Hi,

No log fragment on freezes or restarts here.

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi Joseph and All,

For some reason on certain messages in outlook 2016 when I press enter on a message to read it restarts outlook.

This does not happen in JAWS but happens in NVDA. If I reboot the problem goes away for a while then comes back.

Please see my log for more info:

Thanks,

Sam

INFO - __main__ (15:34:40.739):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.114):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (15:34:41.114):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

NVDA version master-14940,e78e72f9

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Windows version 10.0.16299 workstation

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using comtypes version 1.1.3

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:34:42.558):

Loaded synthDriver eloquence

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.558):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Using liblouis version 3.3.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (15:34:42.565):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (15:34:42.586):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.592):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs._UIAHandlerEx.UIAHandlerEx.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.760):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.946):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 1196 (nvda_slave.exe) (15:34:49.489):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 91, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1245, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (15:35:24.890):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'PCM Plus'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x06F797B0>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: (0, 5, 120, 88)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 5576) at address 6d29e30>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'10.0.16299.15'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65912

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855744

windowThreadID: 5580

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x8f91df0 at 6e43e90>

IAccessibleChildID: 1

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65912, objectID=-4, childID=1

IAccessible accName: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED, STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922950)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None

Hi,

No log fragment on freezes or restarts here.

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi Joseph and All,

For some reason on certain messages in outlook 2016 when I press enter on a message to read it restarts outlook.

This does not happen in JAWS but happens in NVDA. If I reboot the problem goes away for a while then comes back.

Please see my log for more info:

Thanks,

Sam

INFO - __main__ (15:34:40.739):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.114):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (15:34:41.114):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

NVDA version master-14940,e78e72f9

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Windows version 10.0.16299 workstation

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using comtypes version 1.1.3

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:34:42.558):

Loaded synthDriver eloquence

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.558):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Using liblouis version 3.3.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (15:34:42.565):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (15:34:42.586):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.592):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs._UIAHandlerEx.UIAHandlerEx.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.760):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.946):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 1196 (nvda_slave.exe) (15:34:49.489):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 91, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1245, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (15:35:24.890):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'PCM Plus'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x06F797B0>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: (0, 5, 120, 88)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 5576) at address 6d29e30>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'10.0.16299.15'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65912

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855744

windowThreadID: 5580

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x8f91df0 at 6e43e90>

IAccessibleChildID: 1

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65912, objectID=-4, childID=1

IAccessible accName: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED, STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922950)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None

I restarted nvda so it would be fresh. I then launched outlook – then pressed enter on the message. Outlook restarted – then I pressed nvda-f1 and copied the log to you. What else can I do to get you the relevant info?

Thanks,

Sam

Hi,

No log fragment on freezes or restarts here.

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi Joseph and All,

For some reason on certain messages in outlook 2016 when I press enter on a message to read it restarts outlook.

This does not happen in JAWS but happens in NVDA. If I reboot the problem goes away for a while then comes back.

Please see my log for more info:

Thanks,

Sam

INFO - __main__ (15:34:40.739):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.114):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (15:34:41.114):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

NVDA version master-14940,e78e72f9

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Windows version 10.0.16299 workstation

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using comtypes version 1.1.3

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:34:42.558):

Loaded synthDriver eloquence

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.558):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Using liblouis version 3.3.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (15:34:42.565):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (15:34:42.586):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.592):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs._UIAHandlerEx.UIAHandlerEx.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.760):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.946):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 1196 (nvda_slave.exe) (15:34:49.489):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 91, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1245, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (15:35:24.890):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'PCM Plus'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x06F797B0>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: (0, 5, 120, 88)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 5576) at address 6d29e30>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'10.0.16299.15'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65912

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855744

windowThreadID: 5580

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x8f91df0 at 6e43e90>

IAccessibleChildID: 1

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65912, objectID=-4, childID=1

IAccessible accName: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED, STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922950)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None

Hi,

No log fragment on freezes or restarts here.

Cheers,

Joseph

Hi Joseph and All,

For some reason on certain messages in outlook 2016 when I press enter on a message to read it restarts outlook.

This does not happen in JAWS but happens in NVDA. If I reboot the problem goes away for a while then comes back.

Please see my log for more info:

Thanks,

Sam

INFO - __main__ (15:34:40.739):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.114):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (15:34:41.114):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

NVDA version master-14940,e78e72f9

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Windows version 10.0.16299 workstation

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using comtypes version 1.1.3

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:34:42.558):

Loaded synthDriver eloquence

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.558):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Using liblouis version 3.3.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (15:34:42.565):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (15:34:42.586):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.592):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs._UIAHandlerEx.UIAHandlerEx.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.760):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.946):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 1196 (nvda_slave.exe) (15:34:49.489):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 91, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1245, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (15:35:24.890):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'PCM Plus'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x06F797B0>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: (0, 5, 120, 88)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 5576) at address 6d29e30>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'10.0.16299.15'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65912

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855744

windowThreadID: 5580

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x8f91df0 at 6e43e90>

IAccessibleChildID: 1

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65912, objectID=-4, childID=1

IAccessible accName: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED, STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922950)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None

Hi Joseph and All,

For some reason on certain messages in outlook 2016 when I press enter on a message to read it restarts outlook.

This does not happen in JAWS but happens in NVDA. If I reboot the problem goes away for a while then comes back.

Please see my log for more info:

Thanks,

Sam

INFO - __main__ (15:34:40.739):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.114):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (15:34:41.114):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

NVDA version master-14940,e78e72f9

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Windows version 10.0.16299 workstation

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using comtypes version 1.1.3

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:34:42.558):

Loaded synthDriver eloquence

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.558):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Using liblouis version 3.3.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (15:34:42.565):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (15:34:42.586):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.592):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs._UIAHandlerEx.UIAHandlerEx.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.760):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.946):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 1196 (nvda_slave.exe) (15:34:49.489):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 91, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1245, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (15:35:24.890):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'PCM Plus'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x06F797B0>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: (0, 5, 120, 88)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 5576) at address 6d29e30>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'10.0.16299.15'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65912

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855744

windowThreadID: 5580

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x8f91df0 at 6e43e90>

IAccessibleChildID: 1

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65912, objectID=-4, childID=1

IAccessible accName: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED, STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922950)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None

OK, not quite sure but since my first query did not provide any information I decided to plow ahead.

Basic information from logs are:

1. -2 typed.

Next item in NVDA log is: DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:37.355):

Followed by a couple of

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:52.367): Core frozen in stack:

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:15:07.414):

Core frozen in stack

At which point NVDA stops talking. After getting speech back through another screen reder, Outlook has a not responding message.

When I did a switch from Calendar View to Messages view I also got a debug watch dog but NVDA seemed to be able to clear it out with the following:

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:14:12.845):

Input: kb(desktop):control+1

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:14.868):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>

  File "core.pyo", line 473, in main

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (15:14:15.085):

errors in this core pump cycle

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in _isUIAWindowHelper

  File "watchdog.pyo", line 195, in sendMessageCallCanceller

CallCancelled

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:14:15.493):

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+t

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:15.592):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>

  File "core.pyo", line 473, in main

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (15:14:15.911):

errors in this core pump cycle

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in _isUIAWindowHelper

  File "watchdog.pyo", line 195, in sendMessageCallCanceller

CallCancelled

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:16.437):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>

  File "core.pyo", line 473, in main

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.974):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728967 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728905 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728906 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728901 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728907 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728908 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728909 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728910 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.977):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728911 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

IO - speech.speak (15:14:19.016):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Inbox - jcohn@... - Outlook']

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack

Hi,

In order to verify your claim, I need an evidence please.

Cheers,

Joseph

OK, some research makes me think that when I use the keyboard shortcut to change from Mailbox view to Calendar View in Outlook that the crash might be related to UIA not being handled correctly. Is there a way I could disable UIA for my copy of NVDA either in intirety or for Outlook just to execute this command without working with the NVDA core? I

So, could I write a Outlook addon that disables UIA when in the SuperGrid or in the INI files?

Thanks!

Jonathan Cohn

Rumola is one i use to use with reliable captcha solving

But there is a cost, around a couple of dollars or so depending on how much you use it

They do give some free credit to try it first before you buy,

So try it for free first before you buy any credit

*From: *Robert Mendoza <mailto:lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
*Sent: *13 March 2018 09:57
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image

I tried it but no luck. However, someone here mentioned before the other tool they used I forgot the name of it and lost of my thread in my archive.

Robert Mendoza

On 3/13/2018 5:50 PM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

Have you tried webbissum on the Firefox esr?

As far as i know it should still work

Unless things have changed since the last time i used it

*From: *Robert Mendoza <mailto:lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
*Sent: *13 March 2018 09:38
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image

Yes, the audio sometimes hardly to understand.

Robert Mendoza

On 3/13/2018 4:51 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

> I'm assuming there is not usable audio version on the site you want to

> use.

> Brian

>

> bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>

> Sent via blueyonder.

> Please address personal E-mail to:-

> briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>,
putting 'Brian Gaff'

> in the display name field.

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Mendoza"

> <lowvisiontek@gmail.com> <mailto:lowvisiontek@gmail.com>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 11:55 PM

> Subject: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image

>

>

>> I know this has been posted before but could not retrieve the email

>> about the extension or addons for Firefox that is similar with

>> webvism. I appreciate if you could share it again here some

>> alternative option that I could use with on the Firefox ESR to solve

>> the capture or verification image.

>>

>>

>> --

>> Robert Mendoza

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

hello there and is it known if rumola will work on the newest version of firefox?
what i've seen a few weeks ago, it don't work with firefox 58 and above.
is that correct or is there a new add-on written for firefox?
cheers
paul otter


Op 13-3-2018 om 13:04 schreef Chris via Groups.Io:

Rumola is one i use to use with reliable captcha solving

But there is a cost, around a couple of dollars or so depending on how much you use it

They do give some free credit to try it first before you buy,

So try it for free first before you buy any credit

*From: *Robert Mendoza <mailto:lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
*Sent: *13 March 2018 09:57
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image

I tried it but no luck. However, someone here mentioned before the other tool they used I forgot the name of it and lost of my thread in my archive.

Robert Mendoza

On 3/13/2018 5:50 PM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

Have you tried webbissum on the Firefox esr?

As far as i know it should still work

Unless things have changed since the last time i used it

*From: *Robert Mendoza <mailto:lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
*Sent: *13 March 2018 09:38
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image

Yes, the audio sometimes hardly to understand.

Robert Mendoza

On 3/13/2018 4:51 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

> I'm assuming there is not usable audio version on the site you want to

> use.

> Brian

>

> bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>

> Sent via blueyonder.

> Please address personal E-mail to:-

> briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>,
putting 'Brian Gaff'

> in the display name field.

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Mendoza"

> <lowvisiontek@gmail.com> <mailto:lowvisiontek@gmail.com>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 11:55 PM

> Subject: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image

>

>

>> I know this has been posted before but could not retrieve the email

>> about the extension or addons for Firefox that is similar with

>> webvism. I appreciate if you could share it again here some

>> alternative option that I could use with on the Firefox ESR to solve

>> the capture or verification image.

>>

>>

>> --

>> Robert Mendoza

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

OK, not quite sure but since my first query did not provide any information I decided to plow ahead.

Basic information from logs are:

1. -2 typed.

Next item in NVDA log is: DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:37.355):

Followed by a couple of

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:52.367): Core frozen in stack:

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:15:07.414):

Core frozen in stack

At which point NVDA stops talking. After getting speech back through another screen reder, Outlook has a not responding message.

When I did a switch from Calendar View to Messages view I also got a debug watch dog but NVDA seemed to be able to clear it out with the following:

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:14:12.845):

Input: kb(desktop):control+1

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:14.868):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>

  File "core.pyo", line 473, in main

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (15:14:15.085):

errors in this core pump cycle

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in _isUIAWindowHelper

  File "watchdog.pyo", line 195, in sendMessageCallCanceller

CallCancelled

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:14:15.493):

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+t

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:15.592):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>

  File "core.pyo", line 473, in main

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (15:14:15.911):

errors in this core pump cycle

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in _isUIAWindowHelper

  File "watchdog.pyo", line 195, in sendMessageCallCanceller

CallCancelled

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:16.437):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>

  File "core.pyo", line 473, in main

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.974):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728967 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728905 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728906 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728901 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728907 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728908 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728909 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728910 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.977):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728911 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

IO - speech.speak (15:14:19.016):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Inbox - jcohn@... - Outlook']

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack

Hi,

In order to verify your claim, I need an evidence please.

Cheers,

Joseph

OK, some research makes me think that when I use the keyboard shortcut to change from Mailbox view to Calendar View in Outlook that the crash might be related to UIA not being handled correctly. Is there a way I could disable UIA for my copy of NVDA either in intirety or for Outlook just to execute this command without working with the NVDA core? I

So, could I write a Outlook addon that disables UIA when in the SuperGrid or in the INI files?

Thanks!

Jonathan Cohn

OK, some research makes me think that when I use the keyboard shortcut to change from Mailbox view to Calendar View in Outlook that the crash might be related to UIA not being handled correctly. Is there a way I could disable UIA for my copy of NVDA either in intirety or for Outlook just to execute this command without working with the NVDA core? I

So, could I write a Outlook addon that disables UIA when in the SuperGrid or in the INI files?

Thanks!

Jonathan Cohn

Hi Tony.

The Propellerhead reason is the music production program. Very powerful, has a lot of samples, synthesizers and effects to join and mix together.
Unfortunately after playing with it for some time, I have to say, no, it is not accessible.

All the best.

Igor.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 12:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Propellerhead reason accessibility

Hi Igor,


Never heard of this one, what type of program is it.


Tony


On 3/8/2018 8:22 PM, Igor Kaplan wrote:

Hello!
I would like to find out, if someone was able to use Propellerhead reason successfully with NVDA?
I have downloaded the trial version, it looks to be somewhat accessible and also has a lot of keyboard shortcuts, however since I have never used it before, I don't know, if it is accessible enough to do something useful!
Would love to hear some success or failure storyes!

All the best!

Igor.

How can I set NVDA to say copy selected text to the clip board and other like commands when I copy, cut or paste!

 

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

 

As a computer instructor, I have spent years looking for the best
tutorial for MS Word.  Hoping to get Ms certification in Word, I have
spent years looking for the best  tutorial in MS Word.  Recently I
purchased from the  NVDA store the Word tutorial.  It cost $23.  I
have paid up to $100 for other instruction books.

this one is by far the best.  It includes operations I had wondered
about, and some I had never heard of.  I discovered little pieces of
information I had always wondered about--like what is mirroring in the
print dialog--and how to accomplish tasks I hadn't even thought
about.  The language is terse and to the point, leaving me sometimes
to wish for a little hand holding; but reviewing the instructions
always produces enough information to make my way through to success. 
I am totally blown away by the excellence and the incluusiveness of
this document.

Cudos!  Awesome!  Wow!

Ann

p.s.  My favorite program of all times is Excel.  I am on my way to
the store for the Excel tutorial.  It should be a total blast!