Dear global NVDA community,

 

After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018 edition of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorials set. The thing is, there are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access’s own Basic Training module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.

 

For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it’ll be done with some conditions:

 

• The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest snapshot features.
• I’ll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
• I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me, I’d rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
• If possible, I’ll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
• I’ll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.

 

Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I should do it:

 

• I’ll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
• Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on Controlled Folder Access.
• Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
• Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples, especially more universal app examples.
• Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and elements list improvements.
• Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
• Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
• Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
• Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including Remote Support add-on.
• Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots and what not.

 

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph

Yes, please! Your work is appreciated by many. The comments over the years have more than validated that. Updating the tutorials would be an awesome gesture as long as your life and time permit.

Travis

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 9:53 AM

Subject: [nvda] Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

Dear global NVDA community,

 

After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018 edition of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorials set. The thing is, there are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access’s own Basic Training module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.

 

For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it’ll be done with some conditions:

 

• The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest snapshot features.
• I’ll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
• I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me, I’d rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
• If possible, I’ll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
• I’ll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.

 

Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I should do it:

 

• I’ll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
• Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on Controlled Folder Access.
• Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
• Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples, especially more universal app examples.
• Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and elements list improvements.
• Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
• Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
• Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
• Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including Remote Support add-on.
• Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots and what not.

 

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph

Dear global NVDA community,


After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some
tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018
edition of the popular "Welcome to NVDA" tutorials set. The thing is, there
are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access's own Basic Training
module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my
tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.


For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials


If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it'll be done with
some conditions:


* The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest
snapshot features.
* I'll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
* I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me,
I'd rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
* If possible, I'll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks
to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
* I'll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode
demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.


Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I
should do it:


* I'll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
* Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve
recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command
line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on
Controlled Folder Access.
* Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some
command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
* Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples,
especially more universal app examples.
* Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with
Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and
elements list improvements.
* Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
* Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings,
including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
* Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
* Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including
Remote Support add-on.
* Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots
and what not.


Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph



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On Dec 8, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Often if you enable narrator, then do a few alt tabs, you will find an error message behind the stalled update screen.
Make a note, mentally what this says, probably something like cannot write to or delete or rename a file at a guess..
Try to close it either with its button or esc and if you have been successful, attempt to run your back up portable version of nvda. If that works after a short pause then you can try to start the installed copy. It will probably fail with an error, but you can of course revert back to the back up one!
Now manually download the update from the web site and install it over the one that was installed. This normally then works I find. For the record when these things fail seems to be when for a reason as yet not known, Windows sits and takes an age to do something and things kind of time out and you get an error but that blocks up the rest of the work pending in the install. As the person says, if you can its probably then a good idea to reboot windows as this should clear any debris left behind marked for deletion.
Something changed in both windows 7 and 10 about a month or so back that made this occasional issue more common. and no I have no idea what it is either unless its anti virus checking the changing files in the background.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] updating to the latest snap, but still waiting for the update to finish

Hi. Restart your PC then try and to restart the update. I had this problem when NVDA 2017 RC3 came out.


On 12/7/2017 12:55 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I think I have a very broken nvda update. I followed the directions. The update downloaded, however I still hear the beeps saying it's updating etc et etc. I tried to close out but no joy. Narrator is not telling me much either. Running nvda latest snap on windows 10 pro..

Take care all.

On Dec 8, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@...> wrote:

Hi,

Try the free you tube downloader and converter program.  You can read more about it here.

http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/How%20to%20use%20the%20Free%20YouTube%20Downloader%20program%20with%20NVDA.html

Tony

On 12/4/2017 11:31 AM, Dan Thompson wrote:

Hi All,

I have been using the free youtube to mp3 converter for several years.  But suddenly I can not seem to get the url to paste into the converter and auto download into the music folder.    I am using verson 3.3.12.59 build 5.5.   It seems the new version of this program from  DVDVideoSoft  in the new 4.62 version has become very unaccessible.

I wrote a chapter in a book using my laptop with nvda and version 3.12.5 build 5-05.  However, now with the new verson nothing downloads automatically even if I get that bock check, and that is quit challenging itself.  The menus are rather unaccessible.

Is there another youtube to mp3 converter that is easy to use. I work with seniors, (55 and older), most around 65 years.

I will be greatful for any advice.9files to 

Dear global NVDA community,

After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018 edition of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorials set. The thing is, there are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access’s own Basic Training module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.

For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it’ll be done with some conditions:

• The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest snapshot features.
• I’ll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
• I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me, I’d rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
• If possible, I’ll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
• I’ll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.

Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I should do it:

• I’ll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
• Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on Controlled Folder Access.
• Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
• Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples, especially more universal app examples.
• Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and elements list improvements.
• Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
• Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
• Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
• Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including Remote Support add-on.
• Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots and what not.

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph

Where is uac ?

you stated in a previous message you set it at 0% now you are saying its at 100%

 

 

 

 

From: Joe Hunter via Groups.Io
Sent: 09 December 2017 13:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

 

saved the file and ran it from downloads folder and it ran untill it got to the first peace of music then it stated that it was upgrading previous versions of nvda and shows 0 were it stays at 0 with no progress. after trying to upgrade via the update and then looking at uac levels the levels show 100 percent sorry if I have explained clearly.

 

On 12/9/2017 12:57 PM, Gene wrote:

What do you mean by is blocking it?  At this point, we have no way of knowing what is blocking it, an antivirus program that sees it as a false positive or something else?  UAC is very unlikely to have anything to do with the problem.  Specifically, what happens when you try whatever you are trying?  Are you able to download the file but not run it or can you not download the file? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joe Hunter via Groups.Io

Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 6:44 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

 

thanks criss but tried the exe file but my system is blocking it. My uac is at 34 percent tried to lower this to zearo but still blocking. I have a desktop running win10 hal or nvda. not quite sure what to do next?

 

On 12/9/2017 12:29 PM, Chris wrote:

Here you go

 

https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2017.4/nvda_2017.4.exe

 

save it somewhere for future reference 😃

 

 

 

From: Joe Hunter via Groups.Io
Sent: 09 December 2017 12:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

 

Hi all tried to update nvda but it stops partway in the installation so

thought I would try to download an exe file on nvda's websight but could

not find sutch. is there an exe available yet. Joe

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear global NVDA community,

 

After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018 edition of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorials set. The thing is, there are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access’s own Basic Training module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.

 

For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it’ll be done with some conditions:

 

• The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest snapshot features.
• I’ll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
• I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me, I’d rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
• If possible, I’ll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
• I’ll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.

 

Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I should do it:

 

• I’ll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
• Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on Controlled Folder Access.
• Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
• Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples, especially more universal app examples.
• Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and elements list improvements.
• Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
• Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
• Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
• Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including Remote Support add-on.
• Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots and what not.

 

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph

Dear global NVDA community,



After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some
tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018
edition of the popular "Welcome to NVDA" tutorials set. The thing is, there
are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access's own Basic Training
module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my
tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.



For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials



If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it'll be done with
some conditions:



* The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest
snapshot features.
* I'll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
* I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me,
I'd rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
* If possible, I'll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks
to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
* I'll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode
demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.



Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say
I
should do it:



* I'll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
* Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve
recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command
line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on
Controlled Folder Access.
* Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some
command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
* Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples,
especially more universal app examples.
* Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with
Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly
and
elements list improvements.
* Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
* Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings,
including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
* Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
* Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including
Remote Support add-on.
* Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots
and what not.



Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph

Dear global NVDA community,

 

After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018 edition of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorials set. The thing is, there are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access’s own Basic Training module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.

 

For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it’ll be done with some conditions:

 

• The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest snapshot features.
• I’ll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
• I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me, I’d rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
• If possible, I’ll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
• I’ll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.

 

Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I should do it:

 

• I’ll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
• Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on Controlled Folder Access.
• Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
• Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples, especially more universal app examples.
• Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and elements list improvements.
• Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
• Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
• Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
• Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including Remote Support add-on.
• Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots and what not.

 

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph

Which version Windows are you running?


From: zahra
Sent: 09 December 2017 15:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

hello.
i unfortunately have this problem.
two months ago, i downloaded nvda 17.3
today the exe file which i downloaded does not work and after openning
the file, i return to the folder and did not recieve any feedback or
music etc.
what should i do?
i dont have security programs, U.ac etc.
i checked general in property and did not see check box for indication
of blocking my file.
what should i do?
i appreciate your help, God bless all!

On 12/9/17, iván Novegil <@inovegil> wrote:

If you're using W10 also verify that "control access to folder" in
Windows Defender Security Center>Antivirus Protection>Settings is not
enabled, it's causing some problems with NVDA.

Anyway please be more specific in your report including expected and
observed behavior.


Regards.

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Editor
@inovegil

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O 09/12/2017 á(s) 14:03, Chris escribiu:

If its uac then you should get a yes/no dialog to allow access or not

It also may be your anti virus blocking it for some reason

A reboot first may resolve the issue if you have changed the uac level

Also another thing to check may be to check in properties of the
downloaded file and under general tab make sure its not been blocked
there

It is one of the checkboxesjust uncheck it and apply and ok

*From: *Joe Hunter via Groups.Io
<mailto:joehunter=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
*Sent: *09 December 2017 12:44
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

thanks criss but tried the exe file but my system is blocking it. My
uac is at 34 percent tried to lower this to zearo but still blocking.
I have a desktop running win10 hal or nvda. not quite sure what to do
next?

On 12/9/2017 12:29 PM, Chris wrote:

Here you go

https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2017.4/nvda_2017.4.exe

save it somewhere for future reference 😃

*From: *Joe Hunter via Groups.Io
<mailto:joehunter=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
*Sent: *09 December 2017 12:16
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] nvda as an exe file

Hi all tried to update nvda but it stops partway in the
installation so

thought I would try to download an exe file on nvda's websight but
could

not find sutch. is there an exe available yet. Joe

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www.al-islam.org

hello.

i unfortunately have this problem.

two months ago, i downloaded nvda 17.3

today the exe file which i downloaded does not work and after openning

the file, i return to the folder and did not recieve any feedback or

music etc.

what should i do?

i dont have security programs, U.ac etc.

i checked general in property and did not see check box for indication

of blocking my file.

what should i do?

i appreciate your help, God bless all!

On 12/9/17, iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@...> wrote:

> If you're using W10 also verify that "control access to folder" in

> Windows Defender Security Center>Antivirus Protection>Settings is not

> enabled, it's causing some problems with NVDA.

> 

> Anyway please be more specific in your report including expected and

> observed behavior.

> 

> 

> Regards.

> 

> Iván Novegil Cancelas

> Editor

> ivan.novegil@...

> 

> Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es

> - www.NVDA.es

> 

> Usuario do NVDA en galego

> 

> ***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter información

> privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta mensaxe e/ou dos

> seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do destinatario agás

> autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por

> esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.***

> 

> O 09/12/2017 á(s) 14:03, Chris escribiu:

>> 

>> If its uac then you should get a yes/no dialog to allow access or not

>> 

>> It also may be your anti virus blocking it for some reason

>> 

>> A reboot first may resolve the issue if you have changed the uac level

>> 

>> Also another thing to check may be to check in properties of the

>> downloaded file and under general tab make sure its not been blocked

>> there

>> 

>> It is one of the checkboxesjust uncheck it and apply and ok

>> 

>> *From: *Joe Hunter via Groups.Io

>> <mailto:joehunter@...>

>> *Sent: *09 December 2017 12:44

>> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

>> 

>> thanks criss but tried the exe file but my system is blocking it. My

>> uac is at 34 percent tried to lower this to zearo but still blocking.

>> I have a desktop running win10 hal or nvda. not quite sure what to do

>> next?

>> 

>> On 12/9/2017 12:29 PM, Chris wrote:

>> 

>>     Here you go

>> 

>>     https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2017.4/nvda_2017.4.exe

>> 

>>     save it somewhere for future reference 😃

>> 

>>     *From: *Joe Hunter via Groups.Io

>>     <mailto:joehunter@...>

>>     *Sent: *09 December 2017 12:16

>>     *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>     *Subject: *[nvda] nvda as an exe file

>> 

>>     Hi all tried to update nvda but it stops partway in the

>>     installation so

>> 

>>     thought I would try to download an exe file on nvda's websight but

>>     could

>> 

>>     not find sutch. is there an exe available yet. Joe

>> 

>> 

> 

> 

--

we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.

holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:

indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.

best website for studying islamic book in different languages

www.al-islam.org

This brings up the question of why preserving screen layout is a good idea. I mean, maybe that has to do with working with sighted colleagues? But if that's the only reason, then I'm definitely turning it off as of little to no use.

Mary

On 12/6/2017 4:43 PM, Gene wrote:

Just one more example of why having links read each link on a separate line should be the default, as I said two or three days ago.  The feature is in browse mode settings.  It's a check box that says use screen layout, if supported.  Uncheck this box and activate the ok button.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Don H

Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:25 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] links on single line

I am running NVDA 2017-4 on a Win 10 64 bit machine.  I have a web site
where there are multiple links on a single line thus NVDA reads them
together.  If my memory is right there is a way to get NVDA to read this
multi link lines as if each link was separate.  Looked everywhere but
can't find it.
Thanks a

I believe you'll see it in a later message. If not, let me know.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brice Mijares <mailto:bricemijares@...>
*Sent:* Saturday, December 09, 2017 8:46 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] screen review commands not working for me
Jean, Would you please provide the tutorial link again, I can't locate
it. Thank You.
On 12/8/2017 5:55 PM, Gene wrote:
> Unless you really like manuals, and even if you do, I hope you seriously
> consider using the tutorial I linked to yesterday or another one. I
> haven't looked at any of the tutorials to any extent but I've talked
> with a number of people, all of them experienced Windows users and they
> all found the manual to be not very helpful on this subject.  it's
> typical dry manual writing.  Demonstration would, in my opinion for most
> people, be much more useful and clear.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Brice Mijares <mailto:bricemijares@...>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 08, 2017 4:38 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] screen review commands not working for me
>
> I need to read the help manual to get a better understanding of these
> modes. I think I'm confusing myself by using the up and down arrow keys
> to look at a line, then use the numpad 8 to see if I'm on that line.
> ETC. Thanks for the help.
>
> On 12/8/2017 12:38 PM, Gene wrote:
>  > you must be in object navigation mode for these commands to work as
>  > described in the section of the tutorial being worked with
>  > Gene
>  > *From:* Gene New Zealand <mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>
> > *Sent:* Friday, December 08, 2017 2:19 PM
>  > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] screen review commands not working for me
>  >
>  > Hi
>  >
> >
>  > could i ask in what program are you trying to do it in?
>  >
>  >
>  > On a desktop computer to go into screen review is the nvda key + 7 on
>  > the numeric keypad.
>  >
>  >
> >
>  > The commands given are review text or text review commands you can use
>  > with screen review.
> >
>  >
>  > Depending what you are trying to do you may need to route the mouse to
>  > that position? or activate a button with a object navigation command.
>  >
> >
>  > Make sure also your num lock key is turned off.
>  >
>  >
>  > the other thing to is on the numeric keypad we can use screen review
>  > press the nvda key + 7 to go into that mode.
>  >
>  > Using the nvda key + 1 on the numeric keypad will take you down the
>  > modes like document review I think it is called and object navigation.
>  >
>  > the document review mode may only show in some applications. if it
can.
>  >
> >
>  > using the nvda key + 7 will take you back through the modes if there
>  > this may change in each application to what it reveals.
>  >
>  >
>  > Gene nz
>  >
>  >
>  > On 12/9/2017 8:20 AM, Brice Mijares wrote:
>  >> When I hit numpad 8 to read current line, it reads a completely
>  >> different line. Same with previous line, word or character ETC. The
>  >> tutorial was called getting started with NVDA.
>  >>
> >> On 12/8/2017 10:50 AM, Gene wrote:
>  >>> What do you mean when you say they don't work? Assuming the commands
> >>> are doing something, what are they doing?
> >>> Gene
>  >>> ----- original Message -----
>  >>> *From:* Brice Mijares <mailto:bricemijares@...>
> >>> *Sent:* Friday, December 08, 2017 12:45 PM
> >>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> >>> *Subject:* [nvda] screen review commands not working for me
>  >>>
>  >>> I've been trying to follow the following directions, but these
>  >>> directions are not working for me. I made sure I was in desktop
layout.
> >>> It was a brief tutorial by Joseph Lee and I had copied it to
> wordpad and
>  >>> was trying to use the numpad keys to read it.
>  >>>
>  >>> Screen review commands
>  >>> Note the pattern as I give these commands:
>  >>> Read previous line, numpad 7.
> >>> Read current line, numpad 8.
>  >>> Read next line, numpad nine.
>  >>> You move in screen review to the previous or next line when you
issue
>  >>> those commands. You can keep moving and reading until you get to
> the top
> >>> or bottom of the screen.
>  >>> Read previous word, numpad 4.
>  >>> Read current word, numpad 5.
>  >>> Read next word, numpad 6.
> >>> Read previous character, numpad 1.
>  >>> Read current character, numpad 2.
>  >>> Read next character, numpad 3.
>  >>> Note the pattern:
> >>>
>  >>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>  >>>
>  >>>
> >>>
>  >>
>  >>
> >>
>  >
>  > --
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>  > are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
>  > copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
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>  >
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