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Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

Carlos
 

Hello Joseph:

    For those of us who have hearing impairment will there be an accessible text version of the tutorial?

    There are certain voices that when they pronounce certain words/phrases I have trouble understanding the spoken words/phrases!

    They still have not come up with a hearing aid that will adjust itself to different voice cadences.

    Thank You! For all the help that you provide to us NVDA users on a daily basis!!!



On 12/9/2017 8:53 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Dear global NVDA community,

 

After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018 edition of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorials set. The thing is, there are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access’s own Basic Training module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.

 

For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it’ll be done with some conditions:

 

  • The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest snapshot features.
  • I’ll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
  • I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me, I’d rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
  • If possible, I’ll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
  • I’ll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.

 

Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I should do it:

 

  • I’ll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
  • Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on Controlled Folder Access.
  • Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
  • Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples, especially more universal app examples.
  • Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and elements list improvements.
  • Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
  • Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
  • Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
  • Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including Remote Support add-on.
  • Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots and what not.

 

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

Roger Stewart
 

I would say yes!  NVDA and many add ons have either been changed quite a bit or some features and add ons probably didn't even exists back then.  And I could always use a refresher course on what I think I already know!  There may be a few things I'm missing!

:-)

Thanks much!

Roger










On 12/9/2017 10:53 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Dear global NVDA community,

 

After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018 edition of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorials set. The thing is, there are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access’s own Basic Training module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.

 

For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it’ll be done with some conditions:

 

  • The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest snapshot features.
  • I’ll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
  • I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me, I’d rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
  • If possible, I’ll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
  • I’ll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.

 

Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I should do it:

 

  • I’ll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
  • Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on Controlled Folder Access.
  • Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
  • Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples, especially more universal app examples.
  • Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and elements list improvements.
  • Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
  • Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
  • Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
  • Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including Remote Support add-on.
  • Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots and what not.

 

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

Devin Prater
 

Yes, even I would appreciate the universal apps and tools sections.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology instructor in training, JAWS Sertified.

On Dec 9, 2017, at 12:19 PM, Kwork <istherelife@...> wrote:

Yes, please! Your work is appreciated by many. The comments over the years have more than validated that. Updating the tutorials would be an awesome gesture as long as your life and time permit.
Travis
----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 9:53 AM
Subject: [nvda] Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

Dear global NVDA community,

 

After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018 edition of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorials set. The thing is, there are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access’s own Basic Training module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.

 

For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it’ll be done with some conditions:

 

  • The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest snapshot features.
  • I’ll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
  • I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me, I’d rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
  • If possible, I’ll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
  • I’ll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.

 

Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I should do it:

 

  • I’ll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
  • Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on Controlled Folder Access.
  • Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
  • Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples, especially more universal app examples.
  • Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and elements list improvements.
  • Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
  • Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
  • Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
  • Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including Remote Support add-on.
  • Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots and what not.

 

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

Kwork
 

Yes, please! Your work is appreciated by many. The comments over the years have more than validated that. Updating the tutorials would be an awesome gesture as long as your life and time permit.
Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 9:53 AM
Subject: [nvda] Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

Dear global NVDA community,

 

After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018 edition of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorials set. The thing is, there are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access’s own Basic Training module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.

 

For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it’ll be done with some conditions:

 

  • The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest snapshot features.
  • I’ll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
  • I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me, I’d rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
  • If possible, I’ll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
  • I’ll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.

 

Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I should do it:

 

  • I’ll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
  • Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on Controlled Folder Access.
  • Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
  • Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples, especially more universal app examples.
  • Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and elements list improvements.
  • Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
  • Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
  • Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
  • Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including Remote Support add-on.
  • Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots and what not.

 

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

Angela Delicata
 

Hi,

Please do it: I am starting to love nvda; it works great on Windows 10.

Thank you so much for what you do.

Angela from Italy

Il 09/12/2017 17:53, Joseph Lee ha scritto:
Dear global NVDA community,


After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some
tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018
edition of the popular "Welcome to NVDA" tutorials set. The thing is, there
are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access's own Basic Training
module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my
tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.


For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials


If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it'll be done with
some conditions:


* The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest
snapshot features.
* I'll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
* I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me,
I'd rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
* If possible, I'll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks
to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
* I'll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode
demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.


Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I
should do it:


* I'll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
* Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve
recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command
line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on
Controlled Folder Access.
* Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some
command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
* Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples,
especially more universal app examples.
* Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with
Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and
elements list improvements.
* Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
* Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings,
including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
* Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
* Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including
Remote Support add-on.
* Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots
and what not.


Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph



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Re: updating to the latest snap, but still waiting for the update to finish

Sarah k Alawami
 

When I did that there was nothing there. All that was there was my desktop and narrator. Nothing in my notifications center either. It was odd.

It worked after a reboot so dunno what happened there, oh well.

Take care

On Dec 8, 2017, at 1:32 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Often if you enable narrator, then do a few alt tabs, you will find an error message behind the stalled update screen.
Make a note, mentally what this says, probably something like cannot write to or delete or rename a file at a guess..
Try to close it either with its button or esc and if you have been successful, attempt to run your back up portable version of nvda. If that works after a short pause then you can try to start the installed copy. It will probably fail with an error, but you can of course revert back to the back up one!
Now manually download the update from the web site and install it over the one that was installed. This normally then works I find. For the record when these things fail seems to be when for a reason as yet not known, Windows sits and takes an age to do something and things kind of time out and you get an error but that blocks up the rest of the work pending in the install. As the person says, if you can its probably then a good idea to reboot windows as this should clear any debris left behind marked for deletion.
Something changed in both windows 7 and 10 about a month or so back that made this occasional issue more common. and no I have no idea what it is either unless its anti virus checking the changing files in the background.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, December 08, 2017 7:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] updating to the latest snap, but still waiting for the update to finish


Hi. Restart your PC then try and to restart the update. I had this problem when NVDA 2017 RC3 came out.


On 12/7/2017 12:55 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I think I have a very broken nvda update. I followed the directions. The update downloaded, however I still hear the beeps saying it's updating etc et etc. I tried to close out but no joy. Narrator is not telling me much either. Running nvda latest snap on windows 10 pro..

Take care all.


Re: nvda with a youtube to mp3 converter program

Sarah k Alawami
 

I use youtube-dl which is a command lien based program. It's free and very very robust. It's actually very easy  to use as well. It can do all that your GUI stuff can do and more.

On Dec 8, 2017, at 9:38 AM, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@...> wrote:

Hi,


Try the free you tube downloader and converter program.  You can read more about it here.


http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/How%20to%20use%20the%20Free%20YouTube%20Downloader%20program%20with%20NVDA.html


Tony
On 12/4/2017 11:31 AM, Dan Thompson wrote:
Hi All,
I have been using the free youtube to mp3 converter for several years.  But suddenly I can not seem to get the url to paste into the converter and auto download into the music folder.    I am using verson 3.3.12.59 build 5.5.   It seems the new version of this program from  DVDVideoSoft  in the new 4.62 version has become very unaccessible.
I wrote a chapter in a book using my laptop with nvda and version 3.12.5 build 5-05.  However, now with the new verson nothing downloads automatically even if I get that bock check, and that is quit challenging itself.  The menus are rather unaccessible.
Is there another youtube to mp3 converter that is easy to use. I work with seniors, (55 and older), most around 65 years.
I will be greatful for any advice.9files to 


Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

Sky Mundell
 

Hello Joseph. I say, go for it!  You rock!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 8:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

 

Dear global NVDA community,

 

After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018 edition of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorials set. The thing is, there are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access’s own Basic Training module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.

 

For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it’ll be done with some conditions:

 

  • The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest snapshot features.
  • I’ll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
  • I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me, I’d rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
  • If possible, I’ll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
  • I’ll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.

 

Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I should do it:

 

  • I’ll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
  • Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on Controlled Folder Access.
  • Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
  • Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples, especially more universal app examples.
  • Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and elements list improvements.
  • Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
  • Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
  • Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
  • Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including Remote Support add-on.
  • Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots and what not.

 

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: nvda as an exe file

Joe Hunter <joehunter@...>
 

ok time to clarify if possible. when I ran the up data my uac was set at 34 percent. after I tried to run nvda's updata and it stopped partway through the process.  I checked uac levels and it stated it was 100 percent so no I did not alter it my self ut the system altered itself.


On 12/9/2017 2:17 PM, Chris wrote:

Where is uac ?

you stated in a previous message you set it at 0% now you are saying its at 100%

 

 

 

 

From: Joe Hunter via Groups.Io
Sent: 09 December 2017 13:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

 

saved the file and ran it from downloads folder and it ran untill it got to the first peace of music then it stated that it was upgrading previous versions of nvda and shows 0 were it stays at 0 with no progress. after trying to upgrade via the update and then looking at uac levels the levels show 100 percent sorry if I have explained clearly.

 

On 12/9/2017 12:57 PM, Gene wrote:

What do you mean by is blocking it?  At this point, we have no way of knowing what is blocking it, an antivirus program that sees it as a false positive or something else?  UAC is very unlikely to have anything to do with the problem.  Specifically, what happens when you try whatever you are trying?  Are you able to download the file but not run it or can you not download the file? 

 

Gene

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Sent: Saturday, December 09, 2017 6:44 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

 

thanks criss but tried the exe file but my system is blocking it. My uac is at 34 percent tried to lower this to zearo but still blocking. I have a desktop running win10 hal or nvda. not quite sure what to do next?

 

On 12/9/2017 12:29 PM, Chris wrote:

Here you go

 

https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2017.4/nvda_2017.4.exe

 

save it somewhere for future reference 😃

 

 

 

From: Joe Hunter via Groups.Io
Sent: 09 December 2017 12:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

 

Hi all tried to update nvda but it stops partway in the installation so

thought I would try to download an exe file on nvda's websight but could

not find sutch. is there an exe available yet. Joe

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

David Tanner
 

  
 I think it would be a great idea.  
 

It is always better to think before you reply! 

On Dec 9, 2017, at 10:53 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Dear global NVDA community,

 

After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018 edition of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorials set. The thing is, there are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access’s own Basic Training module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.

 

For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it’ll be done with some conditions:

 

  • The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest snapshot features.
  • I’ll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
  • I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me, I’d rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
  • If possible, I’ll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
  • I’ll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.

 

Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I should do it:

 

  • I’ll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
  • Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on Controlled Folder Access.
  • Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
  • Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples, especially more universal app examples.
  • Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and elements list improvements.
  • Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
  • Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
  • Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
  • Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including Remote Support add-on.
  • Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots and what not.

 

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

Gerardo Corripio
 

Yes yes go right ahead! Technology, especially in terms of computers, in 3 years evolves! So yes looking forward to when it's ready!


El 09/12/2017 a las 11:25 a.m., Arlene escribió:

I say, go for it. give updates. Please and thank you.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: December-09-17 8:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

 

Hi Joseph,
In a word, yes. In two words, yes please. Smile. Up-to-date examples and examples looking forward with the latest technology I think would be useful. As a new NVDA user, I would find particularly useful.
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 9, 2017, at 8:53 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Dear global NVDA community,

 

After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018 edition of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorials set. The thing is, there are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access’s own Basic Training module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.

 

For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it’ll be done with some conditions:

 

  • The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest snapshot features.
  • I’ll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
  • I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me, I’d rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
  • If possible, I’ll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
  • I’ll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.

 

Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I should do it:

 

  • I’ll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
  • Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on Controlled Folder Access.
  • Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
  • Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples, especially more universal app examples.
  • Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and elements list improvements.
  • Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
  • Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
  • Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
  • Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including Remote Support add-on.
  • Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots and what not.

 

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph


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Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

Arlene
 

I say, go for it. give updates. Please and thank you.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: December-09-17 8:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

 

Hi Joseph,
In a word, yes. In two words, yes please. Smile. Up-to-date examples and examples looking forward with the latest technology I think would be useful. As a new NVDA user, I would find particularly useful.
Mary

 

Sent from my iPhone


On Dec 9, 2017, at 8:53 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Dear global NVDA community,

 

After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018 edition of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorials set. The thing is, there are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access’s own Basic Training module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.

 

For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it’ll be done with some conditions:

 

  • The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest snapshot features.
  • I’ll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
  • I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me, I’d rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
  • If possible, I’ll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
  • I’ll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.

 

Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I should do it:

 

  • I’ll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
  • Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on Controlled Folder Access.
  • Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
  • Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples, especially more universal app examples.
  • Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and elements list improvements.
  • Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
  • Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
  • Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
  • Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including Remote Support add-on.
  • Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots and what not.

 

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

 

hello joseph.
your tutorial and posts to the list are very great.
i remember my first experience using nvda with farsi translated of
your tutorial for nvda 2013
it was very great and helped me in many ways.
i realy wish that have your english tutorial and appreciate your help.
i sincerely pray for you every day and request divine infinite mercy
and special blessings for you!

On 12/9/17, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Dear global NVDA community,



After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some
tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018
edition of the popular "Welcome to NVDA" tutorials set. The thing is, there
are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access's own Basic Training
module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my
tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.



For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials



If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it'll be done with
some conditions:



* The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest
snapshot features.
* I'll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
* I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me,
I'd rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
* If possible, I'll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks
to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
* I'll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode
demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.



Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say
I
should do it:



* I'll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
* Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve
recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command
line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on
Controlled Folder Access.
* Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some
command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
* Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples,
especially more universal app examples.
* Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with
Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly
and
elements list improvements.
* Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
* Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings,
including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
* Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
* Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including
Remote Support add-on.
* Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots
and what not.



Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org

Re: Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

Mary Otten
 

Hi Joseph,
In a word, yes. In two words, yes please. Smile. Up-to-date examples and examples looking forward with the latest technology I think would be useful. As a new NVDA user, I would find particularly useful.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Dec 9, 2017, at 8:53 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Dear global NVDA community,

 

After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018 edition of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorials set. The thing is, there are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access’s own Basic Training module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.

 

For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it’ll be done with some conditions:

 

  • The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest snapshot features.
  • I’ll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
  • I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me, I’d rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
  • If possible, I’ll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
  • I’ll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.

 

Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I should do it:

 

  • I’ll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
  • Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on Controlled Folder Access.
  • Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
  • Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples, especially more universal app examples.
  • Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and elements list improvements.
  • Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
  • Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
  • Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
  • Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including Remote Support add-on.
  • Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots and what not.

 

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph

Request for comments: Should I record 2018 edition of Welcome to NVDA tutorials set?

 

Dear global NVDA community,

 

After reading recent threads on various NVDA lists and looking at some tweets, I find myself asking if I should do it again: record the 2018 edition of the popular “Welcome to NVDA” tutorials set. The thing is, there are more superb tutorials out now, including NV Access’s own Basic Training module. I do understand that many folks have come to know NVDA through my tutorials and some tutorials used mine as a reference or a guide.

 

For reference, the 2015 edition of this tutorials set can be found at:

http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials

 

If the community says I should record the 2018 edition, it’ll be done with some conditions:

 

  • The tutorial will be based on a combination of 2017.4 and latest snapshot features.
  • I’ll be using Windows 10 Version 1709 (Fall Creators Update).
  • I will not ask for payment for this set; if you insist on paying me, I’d rather ask you to donate to NV Access.
  • If possible, I’ll come up with a text transcript and a way for folks to provide edits via pull requests on GitHub.
  • I’ll be moving away from Internet Explorer for browse mode demonstrations, opting for Firefox and Microsoft Edge.

 

Below is a list of changes between 2015 and 2018 editions provided you say I should do it:

 

  • I’ll be using Windows OneCore voices for most speech demos.
  • Chapter 1 (Intro) will be expanded and re-recorded to improve recording quality, as well as adding additional information such as command line switches to start a portable copy after creating one and a note on Controlled Folder Access.
  • Chapter 2 (Basics) will go over more touchscreen possibilities, some command changes (including copying the contents of status bars) and others.
  • Chapter 3 (Objects and object navigation) will feature new examples, especially more universal app examples.
  • Chapter 4 (Browsing the web) will feature reading PDF documents with Microsoft Edge, turning off single letter navigation commands on the fly and elements list improvements.
  • Chapter 5 (Apps) will feature new and updated examples.
  • Chapters 6 and 7 (Configuration) will feature new settings, including Windows 10 OCR and many others.
  • Chapter 8 (tools) will feature content recognition.
  • Chapter 9 (Add-ons) will feature new and updated examples, including Remote Support add-on.
  • Addenda may include a word on ARM64 support, development snapshots and what not.

 

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: nvda as an exe file

 

as every one maybe know, i use xp!

On 12/9/17, Chris <chrismedley@...> wrote:
Which version Windows are you running?


From: zahra
Sent: 09 December 2017 15:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

hello.
i unfortunately have this problem.
two months ago, i downloaded nvda 17.3
today the exe file which i downloaded does not work and after openning
the file, i return to the folder and did not recieve any feedback or
music etc.
what should i do?
i dont have security programs, U.ac etc.
i checked general in property and did not see check box for indication
of blocking my file.
what should i do?
i appreciate your help, God bless all!

On 12/9/17, iván Novegil <@inovegil> wrote:
If you're using W10 also verify that "control access to folder" in
Windows Defender Security Center>Antivirus Protection>Settings is not
enabled, it's causing some problems with NVDA.

Anyway please be more specific in your report including expected and
observed behavior.


Regards.

Iván Novegil Cancelas
Editor
@inovegil

Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es
- www.NVDA.es

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O 09/12/2017 á(s) 14:03, Chris escribiu:

If its uac then you should get a yes/no dialog to allow access or not

It also may be your anti virus blocking it for some reason

A reboot first may resolve the issue if you have changed the uac level

Also another thing to check may be to check in properties of the
downloaded file and under general tab make sure its not been blocked
there

It is one of the checkboxesjust uncheck it and apply and ok

*From: *Joe Hunter via Groups.Io
<mailto:joehunter=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
*Sent: *09 December 2017 12:44
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

thanks criss but tried the exe file but my system is blocking it. My
uac is at 34 percent tried to lower this to zearo but still blocking.
I have a desktop running win10 hal or nvda. not quite sure what to do
next?

On 12/9/2017 12:29 PM, Chris wrote:

Here you go

https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2017.4/nvda_2017.4.exe

save it somewhere for future reference 😃

*From: *Joe Hunter via Groups.Io
<mailto:joehunter=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>
*Sent: *09 December 2017 12:16
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] nvda as an exe file

Hi all tried to update nvda but it stops partway in the
installation so

thought I would try to download an exe file on nvda's websight but
could

not find sutch. is there an exe available yet. Joe


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org

Re: nvda as an exe file

Chris
 

Which version  Windows are you running?

 

 

From: zahra
Sent: 09 December 2017 15:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

 

hello.

i unfortunately have this problem.

two months ago, i downloaded nvda 17.3

today the exe file which i downloaded does not work and after openning

the file, i return to the folder and did not recieve any feedback or

music etc.

what should i do?

i dont have security programs, U.ac etc.

i checked general in property and did not see check box for indication

of blocking my file.

what should i do?

i appreciate your help, God bless all!

 

On 12/9/17, iván Novegil <ivan.novegil@...> wrote:

> If you're using W10 also verify that "control access to folder" in

> Windows Defender Security Center>Antivirus Protection>Settings is not

> enabled, it's causing some problems with NVDA.

> Anyway please be more specific in your report including expected and

> observed behavior.

> Regards.

> Iván Novegil Cancelas

> Editor

> ivan.novegil@...

> Comunidad hispanohablante de NVDA | Proyecto NVDA.es

> - www.NVDA.es

> Usuario do NVDA en galego

> ***Note que a anterior mensaxe e/ou os seus adxuntos pode conter información

> privada ou confidencial. O emprego da información desta mensaxe e/ou dos

> seus adxuntos está reservado ao ámbito privado do destinatario agás

> autorización do remitente. Se recibiu esta mensaxe por erro comuníqueo por

> esta mesma vía e destrúa a mensaxe.***

> O 09/12/2017 á(s) 14:03, Chris escribiu:

>> 

>> If its uac then you should get a yes/no dialog to allow access or not

>> 

>> It also may be your anti virus blocking it for some reason

>> 

>> A reboot first may resolve the issue if you have changed the uac level

>> 

>> Also another thing to check may be to check in properties of the

>> downloaded file and under general tab make sure its not been blocked

>> there

>> 

>> It is one of the checkboxesjust uncheck it and apply and ok

>> 

>> *From: *Joe Hunter via Groups.Io

>> <mailto:joehunter@...>

>> *Sent: *09 December 2017 12:44

>> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] nvda as an exe file

>> 

>> thanks criss but tried the exe file but my system is blocking it. My

>> uac is at 34 percent tried to lower this to zearo but still blocking.

>> I have a desktop running win10 hal or nvda. not quite sure what to do

>> next?

>> 

>> On 12/9/2017 12:29 PM, Chris wrote:

>> 

>>     Here you go

>> 

>>     https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2017.4/nvda_2017.4.exe

>> 

>>     save it somewhere for future reference 😃

>> 

>>     *From: *Joe Hunter via Groups.Io

>>     <mailto:joehunter@...>

>>     *Sent: *09 December 2017 12:16

>>     *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>     *Subject: *[nvda] nvda as an exe file

>> 

>>     Hi all tried to update nvda but it stops partway in the

>>     installation so

>> 

>>     thought I would try to download an exe file on nvda's websight but

>>     could

>> 

>>     not find sutch. is there an exe available yet. Joe

>> 

>> 

 

 

--

we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.

holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.

in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:

indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.

best website for studying islamic book in different languages

www.al-islam.org

 

 

 

Re: a link that won't activate

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


On occasion, I get such links.  Another thing to try is to move to a place on the page just above the problem link.  Then switch to edit mode with insert + space bar and then use the tab key to try highlighting the link and then press enter.  This used to be the case when trying to access premium content for the National Football League using Tune In Premium.  This issue has been resolved this year, but for the 2015 and 2016 seasons this is what I had to do to activate the streams.



On 12/9/2017 2:20 AM, David Griffith wrote:

 

If a link is not working with enter I try the following

  1. Press space instead of enter.
  2. Most reliably Press Insert F7 to bring up Elements List  and activate the link from there. This works most times.
  3. If this does  not work I press F6 until I am in the address bar and copy the page address and then load it in Internet explorer.
  4. IE is not a great browser to use nowadays but I have several times found that links that do not work under Firefox or Waterfox will suddenly activate when I load  the same page in IE.  The GiftGab Mobile Phone top up page in the UK is a case in point where several check out buttons do not respond with firefox or Chrome but will in IE for some reason.
  5. So far those methods have worked for me with difficult links, but if they did not I would further try the link using Narator in Edge.

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Mary Otten
Sent: 09 December 2017 00:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] a link that won't activate

 

I would send you to this website, but it is a wine ordering site, and

the link in question is my shopping cart, so I guess there isn't much

point. After I fill my care, I can search using the nvda shift f combo

and find the word cart. It shows how many items are in the cart and is

even identified as a link, although I can't tab to this link at all. If

I press enter, I go nowhere. I can find and identify the cart link as a

link with object nav, and I have mouse tracking on. If I try a single or

double left simulated mouse click using the number pad, which nvda

identifies when I press it as a left click, nothing happens. This is all

happening in Firefox esr. Has anybody seen a link like this, and what

can I do about it?

 

 

Mary

 

 

 

 


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"

Re: links on single line

特種兵
 

hi,


1. screen layout is enable sometimes causes a broken component, because the cut off may not be the ideal relationship.
That would make me suddenly find out whether this checkbox belongs to the above or below items.


2. Use the actual configuration can be used in your familiar web page under the arrow keys to quickly move to the next block.
Because sometimes single-key browsing may not come in handy.


3. Web site testing, we hope that the layout of the site itself in line with accessibility design,
So we need to understand the real configuration of the screen,
After all, not every guide software has to provide screen layout disable mode,
And we hope that the website is accessible for most of the screen reader and browser.


Mary Otten 於 2017/12/7 上午 08:49 寫道:

This brings up the question of why preserving screen layout is a good idea. I mean, maybe that has to do with working with sighted colleagues? But if that's the only reason, then I'm definitely turning it off as of little to no use.


Mary


On 12/6/2017 4:43 PM, Gene wrote:
Just one more example of why having links read each link on a separate line should be the default, as I said two or three days ago.  The feature is in browse mode settings.  It's a check box that says use screen layout, if supported.  Uncheck this box and activate the ok button.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] links on single line

I am running NVDA 2017-4 on a Win 10 64 bit machine.  I have a web site
where there are multiple links on a single line thus NVDA reads them
together.  If my memory is right there is a way to get NVDA to read this
multi link lines as if each link was separate.  Looked everywhere but
can't find it.
Thanks a





Re: screen review commands not working for me

Brice Mijares
 

Yes Gene, I saw it. Thanks for the info.

On 12/9/2017 7:19 AM, Gene wrote:
I believe you'll see it in a later message. If not, let me know.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brice Mijares <mailto:bricemijares@...>
*Sent:* Saturday, December 09, 2017 8:46 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] screen review commands not working for me
Jean, Would you please provide the tutorial link again, I can't locate
it. Thank You.
On 12/8/2017 5:55 PM, Gene wrote:
> Unless you really like manuals, and even if you do, I hope you seriously
> consider using the tutorial I linked to yesterday or another one. I
> haven't looked at any of the tutorials to any extent but I've talked
> with a number of people, all of them experienced Windows users and they
> all found the manual to be not very helpful on this subject.  it's
> typical dry manual writing.  Demonstration would, in my opinion for most
> people, be much more useful and clear.
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Brice Mijares <mailto:bricemijares@...>
> *Sent:* Friday, December 08, 2017 4:38 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] screen review commands not working for me
>
> I need to read the help manual to get a better understanding of these
> modes. I think I'm confusing myself by using the up and down arrow keys
> to look at a line, then use the numpad 8 to see if I'm on that line.
> ETC. Thanks for the help.
>
> On 12/8/2017 12:38 PM, Gene wrote:
>  > you must be in object navigation mode for these commands to work as
>  > described in the section of the tutorial being worked with
>  > Gene
>  > *From:* Gene New Zealand <mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>
> > *Sent:* Friday, December 08, 2017 2:19 PM
>  > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] screen review commands not working for me
>  >
>  > Hi
>  >
> >
>  > could i ask in what program are you trying to do it in?
>  >
>  >
>  > On a desktop computer to go into screen review is the nvda key + 7 on
>  > the numeric keypad.
>  >
>  >
> >
>  > The commands given are review text or text review commands you can use
>  > with screen review.
> >
>  >
>  > Depending what you are trying to do you may need to route the mouse to
>  > that position? or activate a button with a object navigation command.
>  >
> >
>  > Make sure also your num lock key is turned off.
>  >
>  >
>  > the other thing to is on the numeric keypad we can use screen review
>  > press the nvda key + 7 to go into that mode.
>  >
>  > Using the nvda key + 1 on the numeric keypad will take you down the
>  > modes like document review I think it is called and object navigation.
>  >
>  > the document review mode may only show in some applications. if it
can.
>  >
> >
>  > using the nvda key + 7 will take you back through the modes if there
>  > this may change in each application to what it reveals.
>  >
>  >
>  > Gene nz
>  >
>  >
>  > On 12/9/2017 8:20 AM, Brice Mijares wrote:
>  >> When I hit numpad 8 to read current line, it reads a completely
>  >> different line. Same with previous line, word or character ETC. The
>  >> tutorial was called getting started with NVDA.
>  >>
> >> On 12/8/2017 10:50 AM, Gene wrote:
>  >>> What do you mean when you say they don't work? Assuming the commands
> >>> are doing something, what are they doing?
> >>> Gene
>  >>> ----- original Message -----
>  >>> *From:* Brice Mijares <mailto:bricemijares@...>
> >>> *Sent:* Friday, December 08, 2017 12:45 PM
> >>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> >>> *Subject:* [nvda] screen review commands not working for me
>  >>>
>  >>> I've been trying to follow the following directions, but these
>  >>> directions are not working for me. I made sure I was in desktop
layout.
> >>> It was a brief tutorial by Joseph Lee and I had copied it to
> wordpad and
>  >>> was trying to use the numpad keys to read it.
>  >>>
>  >>> Screen review commands
>  >>> Note the pattern as I give these commands:
>  >>> Read previous line, numpad 7.
> >>> Read current line, numpad 8.
>  >>> Read next line, numpad nine.
>  >>> You move in screen review to the previous or next line when you
issue
>  >>> those commands. You can keep moving and reading until you get to
> the top
> >>> or bottom of the screen.
>  >>> Read previous word, numpad 4.
>  >>> Read current word, numpad 5.
>  >>> Read next word, numpad 6.
> >>> Read previous character, numpad 1.
>  >>> Read current character, numpad 2.
>  >>> Read next character, numpad 3.
>  >>> Note the pattern:
> >>>
>  >>> Thanks for any suggestions.
>  >>>
>  >>>
> >>>
>  >>
>  >>
> >>
>  >
>  > --
>  > Image NVDA certified expert
>  > Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
>  > material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of
where you
>  > are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
>  > copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
>  > which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
>  > http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
> > (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
>  > near you, please visit the following link
>  > https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page
contains the
>  > official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who
>  > have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
>  >
>
>
>