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Re: Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Yes, it is up-arrow. Usually youtube is set to atomatically starting the video, means the playback control is focussed after the webpage opens and you hear the sound. Leave browse mode and just press arrow-up or arrow-down to adjust the youtube volume.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2020 17:54
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

I'm not sure. I never use it. I think it is upn arrow raise volume, down arrow lower volume.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 10:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

What's the specific volume command for Youtube?


On 6/23/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Have you tried using the specific volume command for Youtube itself?
Perhaps somehow, your Firefox is set to cause Youtube to play at a
lower volume.

Start a video playing.
From the top of the page, type b until you get into player commands.
Then, depending on the browser you are using, turn the Virtual Cursor
off or

browse mode off.
Tab and shift tab to be sure you are in the player commands. I
believe volume up is up arrow. Press it a lot of times or try
;pressing and holding

it to see if the volume goes up. Others may definitely know the command.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

The reason why I had a problem with volume on Youtube was because I
was using Firefox. I switched to Crome and I have no problem. I looked
up volume booster for Crome, but I was told the information I get on
websites might change with the use of it. So I decided not to get
it.

On 6/23/20, Aschalew Byness <gakidan.ashagre235@...> wrote:
about the discripancy betwen the volume of YouTube and Nvda, Daniel
wrote here as: 'I use an extension called "sound booster that works"
in Chrome. If the video is too low,, you can click on it, or set a
hotkey to it, so that the video's volume increases. It is fast and
works very well!'. I added the extention to my Chrome. I didn't know
where to klick or how to set hotkies to increase YouTube volume as
much as nvda. solution please?
fondly!On 6/14/20, Nevzat Adil <@Nev> wrote:
Hi every one,
There is a discrepancy between the volume of sound I get from NVDA
and Youtube.
For instance, when I listen to a Youtube video I need to turn the
volume all the way up to hear some sound, but then the volume from
NVDA is at 100%.
Is there a way to equalize the sound volumes of both NVDA and
Youtube so that I won't have to turn up the volume all the way up to
listen to a Youtube video?
Any help would be appreciated.
Nevzat Adil
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Re: Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

Gene
 

I'm not sure. I never use it. I think it is upn arrow raise volume, down arrow lower volume.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 10:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

What's the specific volume command for Youtube?


On 6/23/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Have you tried using the specific volume command for Youtube itself?
Perhaps somehow, your Firefox is set to cause Youtube to play at a lower
volume.

Start a video playing.
From the top of the page, type b until you get into player commands.
Then, depending on the browser you are using, turn the Virtual Cursor off or

browse mode off.
Tab and shift tab to be sure you are in the player commands. I believe
volume up is up arrow. Press it a lot of times or try ;pressing and holding

it to see if the volume goes up. Others may definitely know the command.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

The reason why I had a problem with volume on Youtube was because I
was using Firefox. I switched to Crome and I have no problem. I looked
up volume booster for Crome, but I was told the information I get on
websites might change with the use of it. So I decided not to get
it.

On 6/23/20, Aschalew Byness <gakidan.ashagre235@...> wrote:
about the discripancy betwen the volume of YouTube and Nvda, Daniel
wrote here as: 'I use an extension called "sound booster that works"
in Chrome. If the video is too low,, you can click on it, or set a
hotkey to it, so that the video's volume increases. It is fast and
works very well!'. I added the extention to my Chrome. I didn't know
where to klick or how to set hotkies to increase YouTube volume as
much as nvda. solution please?
fondly!On 6/14/20, Nevzat Adil <@Nev> wrote:
Hi every one,
There is a discrepancy between the volume of sound I get from NVDA and
Youtube.
For instance, when I listen to a Youtube video I need to turn the
volume all the way up to hear some sound, but then the volume from
NVDA is at 100%.
Is there a way to equalize the sound volumes of both NVDA and Youtube
so that I won't have to turn up the volume all the way up to listen to
a Youtube video?
Any help would be appreciated.
Nevzat Adil
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e-mail: @Nev
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Re: nvda's unresponsiveness to outlook.com interface

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello,
Go to the account manager button, turnoff browse mode, press space and tab 3 times sothat you hear "sign off"

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Marisane Moruthanyana
Sent: Dienstag, 23. Juni 2020 16:45
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] nvda's unresponsiveness to outlook.com interface

Good day gentle people

I trust you are still well and safe from corona.

I am trying.

My experience is that nvda is unresponsive to outlook.com interface.

Does anyone of you have the same experience?

I cannot find the buttons to log out even when I activated the my account submenu where these buttons are found when using jaws.

What is wrong with nvda?

Please assist.

Furthermore, is there any tutorial on nvda for outlook.com?

Your assistance is appreciated in advance.

Regards
Moruthanyana Wally: SA


Re: Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

 

What's the specific volume command for Youtube?

On 6/23/20, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
Have you tried using the specific volume command for Youtube itself?
Perhaps somehow, your Firefox is set to cause Youtube to play at a lower
volume.

Start a video playing.
From the top of the page, type b until you get into player commands.
Then, depending on the browser you are using, turn the Virtual Cursor off or

browse mode off.
Tab and shift tab to be sure you are in the player commands. I believe
volume up is up arrow. Press it a lot of times or try ;pressing and holding

it to see if the volume goes up. Others may definitely know the command.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

The reason why I had a problem with volume on Youtube was because I
was using Firefox. I switched to Crome and I have no problem. I looked
up volume booster for Crome, but I was told the information I get on
websites might change with the use of it. So I decided not to get
it.

On 6/23/20, Aschalew Byness <gakidan.ashagre235@...> wrote:
about the discripancy betwen the volume of YouTube and Nvda, Daniel
wrote here as: 'I use an extension called "sound booster that works"
in Chrome. If the video is too low,, you can click on it, or set a
hotkey to it, so that the video's volume increases. It is fast and
works very well!'. I added the extention to my Chrome. I didn't know
where to klick or how to set hotkies to increase YouTube volume as
much as nvda. solution please?
fondly!On 6/14/20, Nevzat Adil <@Nev> wrote:
Hi every one,
There is a discrepancy between the volume of sound I get from NVDA and
Youtube.
For instance, when I listen to a Youtube video I need to turn the
volume all the way up to hear some sound, but then the volume from
NVDA is at 100%.
Is there a way to equalize the sound volumes of both NVDA and Youtube
so that I won't have to turn up the volume all the way up to listen to
a Youtube video?
Any help would be appreciated.
Nevzat Adil
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e-mail: @Nev
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Re: Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

Gene
 

Have you tried using the specific volume command for Youtube itself? Perhaps somehow, your Firefox is set to cause Youtube to play at a lower volume.

Start a video playing.
From the top of the page, type b until you get into player commands.
Then, depending on the browser you are using, turn the Virtual Cursor off or browse mode off.
Tab and shift tab to be sure you are in the player commands. I believe volume up is up arrow. Press it a lot of times or try ;pressing and holding it to see if the volume goes up. Others may definitely know the command.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Nevzat Adil
Sent: Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

The reason why I had a problem with volume on Youtube was because I
was using Firefox. I switched to Crome and I have no problem. I looked
up volume booster for Crome, but I was told the information I get on
websites might change with the use of it. So I decided not to get
it.

On 6/23/20, Aschalew Byness <gakidan.ashagre235@...> wrote:
about the discripancy betwen the volume of YouTube and Nvda, Daniel
wrote here as: 'I use an extension called "sound booster that works"
in Chrome. If the video is too low,, you can click on it, or set a
hotkey to it, so that the video's volume increases. It is fast and
works very well!'. I added the extention to my Chrome. I didn't know
where to klick or how to set hotkies to increase YouTube volume as
much as nvda. solution please?
fondly!On 6/14/20, Nevzat Adil <@Nev> wrote:
Hi every one,
There is a discrepancy between the volume of sound I get from NVDA and
Youtube.
For instance, when I listen to a Youtube video I need to turn the
volume all the way up to hear some sound, but then the volume from
NVDA is at 100%.
Is there a way to equalize the sound volumes of both NVDA and Youtube
so that I won't have to turn up the volume all the way up to listen to
a Youtube video?
Any help would be appreciated.
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader






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nvda's unresponsiveness to outlook.com interface

Marisane Moruthanyana
 

Good day gentle people

I trust you are still well and safe from corona.

I am trying.

My experience is that nvda is unresponsive to outlook.com interface.

Does anyone of you have the same experience?

I cannot find the buttons to log out even when I activated the my
account submenu where these buttons are found when using jaws.

What is wrong with nvda?

Please assist.

Furthermore, is there any tutorial on nvda for outlook.com?

Your assistance is appreciated in advance.

Regards
Moruthanyana Wally: SA


Re: Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

 

The reason why I had a problem with volume on Youtube was because I
was using Firefox. I switched to Crome and I have no problem. I looked
up volume booster for Crome, but I was told the information I get on
websites might change with the use of it. So I decided not to get
it.

On 6/23/20, Aschalew Byness <gakidan.ashagre235@...> wrote:
about the discripancy betwen the volume of YouTube and Nvda, Daniel
wrote here as: 'I use an extension called "sound booster that works"
in Chrome. If the video is too low,, you can click on it, or set a
hotkey to it, so that the video's volume increases. It is fast and
works very well!'. I added the extention to my Chrome. I didn't know
where to klick or how to set hotkies to increase YouTube volume as
much as nvda. solution please?
fondly!On 6/14/20, Nevzat Adil <@Nev> wrote:
Hi every one,
There is a discrepancy between the volume of sound I get from NVDA and
Youtube.
For instance, when I listen to a Youtube video I need to turn the
volume all the way up to hear some sound, but then the volume from
NVDA is at 100%.
Is there a way to equalize the sound volumes of both NVDA and Youtube
so that I won't have to turn up the volume all the way up to listen to
a Youtube video?
Any help would be appreciated.
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader





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Re: Discrepancy Between NVDA and Youtube sounds

Aschalew Byness
 

about the discripancy betwen the volume of YouTube and Nvda, Daniel
wrote here as: 'I use an extension called "sound booster that works"
in Chrome. If the video is too low,, you can click on it, or set a
hotkey to it, so that the video's volume increases. It is fast and
works very well!'. I added the extention to my Chrome. I didn't know
where to klick or how to set hotkies to increase YouTube volume as
much as nvda. solution please?
fondly!On 6/14/20, Nevzat Adil <@Nev> wrote:

Hi every one,
There is a discrepancy between the volume of sound I get from NVDA and
Youtube.
For instance, when I listen to a Youtube video I need to turn the
volume all the way up to hear some sound, but then the volume from
NVDA is at 100%.
Is there a way to equalize the sound volumes of both NVDA and Youtube
so that I won't have to turn up the volume all the way up to listen to
a Youtube video?
Any help would be appreciated.
Nevzat Adil
Library of Congress Certified
Literary Braille Proofreader
C: 512 502 4403
e-mail: @Nev
Facebook: m.facebook.com/LiteraryBrailleProofreader




Re: Why does NVDA default to no Braille?

 

hello.
which version of nvda do you use?
the first sentence about nvda 2018.3 is:
automatic detection of many Braille displays.
so, dont worry. nvda supports your braile display i need.
also, you can refer to the nvda user guide to find more informations
about different braile displays.

On 6/23/20, Nightowl <nightowl145@...> wrote:
Hi,

Just joined the group, so  excuse me if this question has been asked
before.

The question is: why does NVDA default to no Braille whenever I start
my computer? I have a Freedom Scientific PM 20 Braille display connected
to my pc via USB. What can I do to have NVDA start with Braille?

Also, if I run Narrator with Braille on, then close Narrator to run
NVDA, NVDA also then starts up with no Braille. How can I get NVDA to
start with Braille without having to go into the Braille setting to
change it to my choice of Braille display?

Thank you,
Nightowl.






--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Why does NVDA default to no Braille?

Nightowl <nightowl145@...>
 

Hi,

Just joined the group, so  excuse me if this question has been asked before.

The question is: why does NVDA default to no Braille whenever I start my computer? I have a Freedom Scientific PM 20 Braille display connected to my pc via USB. What can I do to have NVDA start with Braille?

Also, if I run Narrator with Braille on, then close Narrator to run NVDA, NVDA also then starts up with no Braille. How can I get NVDA to start with Braille without having to go into the Braille setting to change it to my choice of Braille display?

Thank you,
Nightowl.


Re: windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:

 

hi Joseph.
thanks extremely for your help.
according to my understanding from your comment,
if i find one system with windows ten, (all current and previous
versions of windows ten are equal in this regard)
that i can use them for basic usage. am i right?
for example: navigating between files and folders, settings and
control panel, reading and writing documents and listening to audio
files are all available in windows ten with nvda 2017.2 and 2017.3.
but if i want to benefit from all new and modern features, modern
softwares of windows ten, and especially cloud services of windows
ten, i should use new version of nvda.
because some features of current versions of windows ten, are
completely new and they were not available in the year of 2017 that
nvda can supports them.
the features like
this sentence that i read about 2018.3
• Added support for various modern input features introduced in recent
Windows 10 releases. These include emoji panel (Fall Creators Update),
dictation (Fall Creators Update), hardware keyboard input suggestions
(April 2018 Update), and cloud clipboard paste (October 2018 Update).
i believe that with 2017.3 and even 2017.2, i dont miss anything
except emojie and all other modern features that i read and mentioned
they are supported in 2018.3.
am i right?

thanks again for your help and your comment that helped me a lot, and
i became freed from concern about my need and use case about windows
ten, (if i need some day to use another system in other places with my
favorite versions of nvda that support persian language and american
accent together?
sorry, i wish that my english could be easily understandable for you
and other people!
God bless you and i dont forget praying for you and i always request
divine infinite mercy, favors, bounties and blessings for you and all
nvda developers.

On 6/23/20, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hi all,
To settle the matter for my add-ons and to answer possible questions:
* Can I run current add-ons on older NVDA releases: technically, yes;
practically speaking, no. This is more so if you are using an older NVDA
release that doesn't include a feature that is desperately needed by
current
add-ons (Python syntax differences and libraries, for example). In case of
any add-ons I'm maintaining, unless otherwise noted, there is a limit as to
how old an NVDA release you can use with add-ons. For all practical
purposes, my add-ons require NVDA 2019.3 or later for proper functionality.
* Does NVDA 2017.3 run on Windows 10: yes and no. The first version to
support Windows 10 properly was 2015.3 (I championed for it then). Does
this
mean 2017.3 works on modern Windows 10? Yes to some degree. What about
versions such as May 2019 Update? No because certain features, namely
proper
support for modern input features, came with later NVDA releases. How about
Chromium Edge? NVDA 2017.3 does not properly support it - the only Edge it
is familiar with is the one that is, for all practical purposes, end of
life.
* As a follow-up, will you (Joseph) make add-ons so NVDA 2017.3 users can
use more modern Windows 10 features: a year ago I would have thought about
it. Today, despite calls for this, my answer is no. We have gotten to a
point where we cannot cross the "ocean" to return to the old world,
particularly more so since NVDA 2019.3.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:

Arlene, Zahra is correct. I keep a copy of 2017.3 around for add-on
testing,
and its basic functions work quite well under Windows 10 up to, at least,
Win 10 version 1909.

However, essential items like the Add-on Updater, and Windows 10 App
Essentials, do not work with it, unless you dig up some very old versions.

Basically it is highly inadvisable to use such an old version of NVDA on
Windows 10, and there are rarely any good reasons to do so, unless you need
to use it to find bugs for add-ons and things like that.

I would certainly never use it as my daily screen reader.

Luke

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, zahra wrote:

nvda has support for windows ten since 2015.3!





--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:

 

Arlene,
thanks for your comments.
i have links for nvda versions and if you need another versions than
the current one,
i can give you direct link.
is giving direct link to other people permissable?

On 6/23/20, Arlene <nedster66@...> wrote:
Luke, Arlene here. I had both versions of NVDA 17.2 all the way to 19
something. But when my windows 7 died I lost all versions. The one I did
get back was NVDA 19 something. I didn’t think it would work for windows
ten not unless like you said if you were testing addons. It would probably
work. I would have given it to Zarah but I lost it when my 7 lost audio and
died. I did have it on a thumb drive but when I loaned the drive to my room
mate while she was helping her mom they deleted it thinking it would not
work for win ten. They installed the 19 version on her mom’s ten box just
as they did mine. Oh well. That’s how it goes.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10



From: zahra
Sent: June 22, 2020 9:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:



Luke,

thanks so much for your reply!

may i contact you offline and ask some questions in this regard?

however, my favorite version of nvda is 2017.2.

but espeak in 2017.3 is also good,

and there is no difference about espeak between these versions.



On 6/23/20, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:

Arlene, Zahra is correct. I keep a copy of 2017.3 around for add-on
testing,
and its
basic functions work quite well under Windows 10 up to, at least, Win 10
version
1909.
However, essential items like the Add-on Updater, and Windows 10 App
Essentials,
do not work with it, unless you dig up some very old versions.
Basically it is highly inadvisable to use such an old version of NVDA on
Windows
10, and there are rarely any good reasons to do so, unless you need to use
it to
find bugs for add-ons and things like that.
I would certainly never use it as my daily screen reader.
Luke
On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, zahra wrote:
nvda has support for windows ten since 2015.3!




--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:

 

Luke,
thanks for your helping me.
i sent you email and i waiting for your help off list.

On 6/23/20, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
You may, although since I don't regularly use that old version for other
than
testing purposes, I don't know how much help I will be. But you're welcome
to
try.

I will also note, that Espeak has definite issues under Windows 10 and
2017.3.
The longer the text you read, the more harsh and distorted Espeak becomes,
until
it reaches some threshold and resets.

Espeak is definitely not pleasant in that use case. Some people might say it

never is, but for someone like me who uses and prefers it, under 2017.3 it
is
difficult to listen to after a short time.

But you're welcome to ask your questions.

Luke

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, zahra wrote:

thanks so much for your reply!
may i contact you offline and ask some questions in this regard?
however, my favorite version of nvda is 2017.2.
but espeak in 2017.3 is also good,
and there is no difference about espeak between these versions.


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: speaking commands

Rui Fontes
 

Quentin, have you already tried to work with NVDA in those conditions?


NVDA needs, urgently, a way to filter some keypresses from being announced...


See issues #5484, #5608 and many more...


Rui Fontes



Às 04:34 de 23/06/2020, Quentin Christensen escreveu:

If you press NVDA+4, or toggle "Speak command keys" in NVDA's keyboard settings, it will speak keys such as ENTER or CONTROL+S.

NVDA doesn't automatically know that CONTROL+S is save, so it generally won't automatically announce that, however if the keystroke brings up something like a save dialog, then that would be announced (for instance the first time you press control+s in a new document in Word).

Not directly related to control+s, but there is a "clipspeak" add-on which will report the functions of some keys such as control+c (Copy) and control+v (paste) where they perform those functions: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/clipspeak.en.html

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Jun 23, 2020 at 12:17 PM Grant Metcalf <the.gems@...> wrote:
I am hoping that sometime soon the NVDA developers will have NVDA speak commands such as “control-save”. I am always in doubt if I have been able to save the file I am working on. Mostly I use the text editor Notepad and very occasionally Wordpad for “RTF” files. Granpa DOS would appreciate all efforts the developers would exert toward making the very basic commands speak!
Cordially yours.
 
Listening for HIS shout!
Grant Metcalf
 


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: speaking commands

Chris Mullins
 

                Hi Grant

There is already a setting in NVDA which enables the speaking of commands, it is NVDA+4 on the number row.  If you use Notepad with Windows 10, there is a handy little feature which indicates if you have made any unsaved changes to the file you are working with.  If you press NVDA+t to speak the window title, you may hear the word “star” spoken before the title text is read.  This is because Notepad puts an asterisk on the title bar if the related file contains unsaved changes.  This asterisk is not present if the file does not contain unsaved changes.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

From: Aschalew Byness
Sent: 23 June 2020 03:40
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] speaking commands

 

you can use 'nvda extention global add-on'.  it has wonderful features

including speaking of commands. it is a private add-on though.

 

On 6/23/20, Grant Metcalf <the.gems@...> wrote:

> I am hoping that sometime soon the NVDA developers will have NVDA speak

> commands such as “control-save”. I am always in doubt if I have been able to

> save the file I am working on. Mostly I use the text editor Notepad and very

> occasionally Wordpad for “RTF” files. Granpa DOS would appreciate all

> efforts the developers would exert toward making the very basic commands

> speak!

> Cordially yours.

> Listening for HIS shout!

> Grant Metcalf

>

 

 

 


Re: windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:

Luke Davis
 

You may, although since I don't regularly use that old version for other than testing purposes, I don't know how much help I will be. But you're welcome to try.

I will also note, that Espeak has definite issues under Windows 10 and 2017.3. The longer the text you read, the more harsh and distorted Espeak becomes, until it reaches some threshold and resets.

Espeak is definitely not pleasant in that use case. Some people might say it never is, but for someone like me who uses and prefers it, under 2017.3 it is difficult to listen to after a short time.

But you're welcome to ask your questions.

Luke

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, zahra wrote:

thanks so much for your reply!
may i contact you offline and ask some questions in this regard?
however, my favorite version of nvda is 2017.2.
but espeak in 2017.3 is also good,
and there is no difference about espeak between these versions.


Re: windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:

Arlene
 

Luke, Arlene here. I had both versions of NVDA 17.2 all the way to 19 something. But when my windows 7 died I lost all versions.  The one I did get back was NVDA 19 something.  I didn’t think it would work for windows ten not unless like you said if you were testing addons. It would probably work. I would have given it to Zarah but I lost it when my 7 lost audio and died.  I did have it on a thumb drive but when I loaned the drive to my room mate while she was helping her mom they deleted it thinking it would not work for win ten.  They installed the 19 version on her mom’s ten box just as they did mine. Oh well. That’s how it goes. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: zahra
Sent: June 22, 2020 9:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:

 

Luke,

thanks so much for your reply!

may i contact you offline and ask some questions in this regard?

however, my favorite version of nvda is 2017.2.

but espeak in 2017.3 is also good,

and there is no difference about espeak between these versions.

 

On 6/23/20, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:

> Arlene, Zahra is correct. I keep a copy of 2017.3 around for add-on testing,

> and its

> basic functions work quite well under Windows 10 up to, at least, Win 10

> version

> 1909.

> However, essential items like the Add-on Updater, and Windows 10 App

> Essentials,

> do not work with it, unless you dig up some very old versions.

> Basically it is highly inadvisable to use such an old version of NVDA on

> Windows

> 10, and there are rarely any good reasons to do so, unless you need to use

> it to

> find bugs for add-ons and things like that.

> I would certainly never use it as my daily screen reader.

> Luke

>   On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, zahra wrote:

>> nvda has support for windows ten since 2015.3!

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 


Re: windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:

 

Hi all,
To settle the matter for my add-ons and to answer possible questions:
* Can I run current add-ons on older NVDA releases: technically, yes;
practically speaking, no. This is more so if you are using an older NVDA
release that doesn't include a feature that is desperately needed by current
add-ons (Python syntax differences and libraries, for example). In case of
any add-ons I'm maintaining, unless otherwise noted, there is a limit as to
how old an NVDA release you can use with add-ons. For all practical
purposes, my add-ons require NVDA 2019.3 or later for proper functionality.
* Does NVDA 2017.3 run on Windows 10: yes and no. The first version to
support Windows 10 properly was 2015.3 (I championed for it then). Does this
mean 2017.3 works on modern Windows 10? Yes to some degree. What about
versions such as May 2019 Update? No because certain features, namely proper
support for modern input features, came with later NVDA releases. How about
Chromium Edge? NVDA 2017.3 does not properly support it - the only Edge it
is familiar with is the one that is, for all practical purposes, end of
life.
* As a follow-up, will you (Joseph) make add-ons so NVDA 2017.3 users can
use more modern Windows 10 features: a year ago I would have thought about
it. Today, despite calls for this, my answer is no. We have gotten to a
point where we cannot cross the "ocean" to return to the old world,
particularly more so since NVDA 2019.3.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Luke Davis
Sent: Monday, June 22, 2020 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:

Arlene, Zahra is correct. I keep a copy of 2017.3 around for add-on testing,
and its basic functions work quite well under Windows 10 up to, at least,
Win 10 version 1909.

However, essential items like the Add-on Updater, and Windows 10 App
Essentials, do not work with it, unless you dig up some very old versions.

Basically it is highly inadvisable to use such an old version of NVDA on
Windows 10, and there are rarely any good reasons to do so, unless you need
to use it to find bugs for add-ons and things like that.

I would certainly never use it as my daily screen reader.

Luke

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, zahra wrote:

nvda has support for windows ten since 2015.3!


Re: windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:

 

Luke,
thanks so much for your reply!
may i contact you offline and ask some questions in this regard?
however, my favorite version of nvda is 2017.2.
but espeak in 2017.3 is also good,
and there is no difference about espeak between these versions.

On 6/23/20, Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Arlene, Zahra is correct. I keep a copy of 2017.3 around for add-on testing,
and its
basic functions work quite well under Windows 10 up to, at least, Win 10
version
1909.

However, essential items like the Add-on Updater, and Windows 10 App
Essentials,
do not work with it, unless you dig up some very old versions.

Basically it is highly inadvisable to use such an old version of NVDA on
Windows
10, and there are rarely any good reasons to do so, unless you need to use
it to
find bugs for add-ons and things like that.

I would certainly never use it as my daily screen reader.

Luke

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, zahra wrote:

nvda has support for windows ten since 2015.3!


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: windows ten and nvda 2017 versions:

Luke Davis
 

Arlene, Zahra is correct. I keep a copy of 2017.3 around for add-on testing, and its basic functions work quite well under Windows 10 up to, at least, Win 10 version 1909.

However, essential items like the Add-on Updater, and Windows 10 App Essentials, do not work with it, unless you dig up some very old versions.

Basically it is highly inadvisable to use such an old version of NVDA on Windows 10, and there are rarely any good reasons to do so, unless you need to use it to find bugs for add-ons and things like that.

I would certainly never use it as my daily screen reader.

Luke

On Tue, 23 Jun 2020, zahra wrote:

nvda has support for windows ten since 2015.3!