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Re: Bug in espeak ng used in NVDA Next

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Simon,

What version of eSpeak-NG are you using?  Looking at: https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/releases indicates that the latest version is 1.49.2, which we updated to prior to NVDA 2017.4.

Having said that, I know there are still issues with eSpeak, some of which are tracked on our issue tracker, and some on eSpeak-NG's here: https://github.com/espeak-ng/espeak-ng/issues

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 5:35 AM, Simon Eigeldinger <simon.eigeldinger@...> wrote:
Hi all,

The currently used espeak ng has a bug in the german language.
The bug has been fixed and espeak ng should be updated to latest master.
haven't opened a ticket yet because i thought i'll not make to much
noise about it.
though i can open a ticket as well if the devs prefer that.

Greetings and thanks,
Simon



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Re: quickbooks

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi John,

The short answer would seem to be that no, there doesn't appear to have been any updates.  The add-on is still available from the add-ons page, however as it was never listed as "stable", you need to go to the "addons under development" link.  The direct link for the addon is: https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/quickBooks2014.en.html

I must admit, I haven't tried Quickbooks lately, so I am not sure how complete or incomplete it is, or whether newer versions of Quickbooks have changed anything.

So, if you do try it, do please let us know how it goes.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 22, 2018 at 2:22 AM, John Covici <covici@...> wrote:
Hi.  A while ago there was a quickbooks addon, but it  never seemed to
go anywhere -- I was just wondering if there has been any development
over the last year or two in the addin.

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Re: Firefox ESR

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

This brings me to the question – what sort of issues are users of Firefox 58 and NVDA experiencing? I know that other major screen-reader does not work with any of the new FF versions, but nVDA does – seemingly quite well in fact.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February 21, 2018 7:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR

 

This isn't just something Mozilla does every now and then.  Extended Support releases may be used by anyone but they are intended for businesses and other institutions that don't want the program to be upgraded frequently.  The extended support release receives all security updates but the program itself doesn't upgrade for one year after release. 

 

The next ESR release will be this summer sometime in June, as I recall. 

 

Because of all the changes being made in firefox now that may impair performance for blind users and interfere with accessibility of some web sites, those who don't want to use the new versions are instructed to use the current ESR version which is version 52 of the program and was released before these changes took place.  Those who want to try the new versions, in particular those who want to try new versions and send feedback regarding problems and progress are encouraged to try the new versions as they are released.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:40 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR

 

Thanks for that.

Andrea


On 22/02/2018 10:11 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
> "ESR" means Extended Support Release.
>
> Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they
> promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.
>
> There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release unless:
>
> a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
> latest one
>
> or
>
> b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want to
> update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in between
> which you are happy with.
>
> Basically, do not run unsupported software.  If security vulnerabilities are
> discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody else's
> fault.
>
> So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version
> (which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
> before that version becomes unsupported.
>
> The above is true for all software, not just Firefox.  Not all projects have
> ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term Release.
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:
>
>> What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?
>>
>> Andrea

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Re: Firefox ESR

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

That all makes perfect sense to me.

 

I’m using Office 2010 on this Windows 10 machine. Quite old, but it is what I have and it still works well. I no longer use IE and I keep Firefox up to date. My girlfriend uses Chrome. Internet browsers of course should be updated.

 

I do have the last version of winamp. 5.666 or something like that. I was having some trouble with the older version initially installed on this machine, and the last build of Winamp is recommended to Windows 10 users, for two or three reasons that I read about at the time but can’t currently remember. It works pretty well here for music and is pretty stable, only I can’t create the silly incredibly large playlists I used to on XP without Windows freaking out. I think that’s more of a Win 10 than a Winamp issue though. It thinks winamp has crashed because it won’t “respond” while adding a myriad folders to a playlist. One just has to adapt. J

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: February 21, 2018 8:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR

 

Openbook is one example.  Winamp, if you don't use it for files that might be malicious from untrustworthy sources such as certain untrustworthy web sites.  I use Winamp to play safe files, mainly things I've recorded myself or digitized myself or that come from known trusted sources.  MP3 Direct cut, a recording program is another example.

 

Depending on how you use your word processor program, that may not need to be upgraded.  If it no longer receives security upgrades, my understanding is that if you disable things that might allow malicious code to run, such as if your program runs macros automatically, that you can use it safely.  Of course, if you need to use newer file types, you won't be able to do that.  You might be able to read them, but not alter them and save them in the same file type. 

 

I would think that if I thought about programs, I could think of many more but I can't just now.  Others may want to give examples but what I've said gives various examples of some programs that you can use even if they may not receive security updates.

 

I've seen complaints about the latest version of Winamp in terms of stability.  It would normally be a good idea to use the newest version if you are playing files you aren't very confident in.  But there are times when an older version of a program is superior.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 6:51 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR

 

What software does not run in such an environment?

I can only think of machines without a network connection, and that's hardly
useful these days (secure, agreed, but what can they do?).


Antony.

On Thursday 22 February 2018 at 00:39:12, Gene wrote:

> Not all software.  All software that you use in an environment where it
> comes into contact with possibly malicious content such as browsers.
> There is lots of software that you don't need to upgrade.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Antony Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:11 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR
>
>
> "ESR" means Extended Support Release.
>
> Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they
> promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.
>
> There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release
> unless:
>
> a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
> latest one
>
> or
>
> b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want
> to update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in
> between which you are happy with.
>
> Basically, do not run unsupported software.  If security vulnerabilities
> are discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody
> else's fault.
>
> So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version
> (which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
> before that version becomes unsupported.
>
> The above is true for all software, not just Firefox.  Not all projects
> have ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term
> Release.
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:
> > What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?
> >
> > Andrea

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Re: Windows 10 detected of virus in Virtual Recorder

 

Hmph its just windows defender targeting the blind again.

Programs your av detects is ok suddenly are problems, just exclude that folder, you may have to reinstall virtual recorder.

On 22/02/2018 12:19 p.m., Robert Mendoza wrote:
Early this morning when I am about to run the Virtual recorder and haven't use it for awhile the Windows Defender of my Windows 10 detected that there is a virus that's need to be scanned offline. not sure what happened but before the same program has been used with no problem for couple of months ago. Any thought or experience for this. Thanks.


Re: Vocalizer Expressive sapi voices

 

I also don't care for the fact one has to make sure you deactivate your voices before an upgrade though if its possible to do it and or backup your licence without having all sorts of issues well maybe.

On 22/02/2018 2:19 a.m., Chris Shook wrote:
No, the sapi package does not include Eloquence. However, you can buy the eloquence package for sixty-nine  dollars.


.


Re: Vocalizer Expressive sapi voices

 

Well I am not paying 69 bucks for eloquence.

Interestingly the tiflocomp voices and code factory voices are 115 bucks, is it worth me to buy the newer code factory ones which is better or should I try a different voice manufacturer.

Due to them no longer sold and other things I have completely clobbered the inoetics voices, codes, recipts and files from my system and all drives, and won't be buying anything from them in the future, a waste of 80 bucks sadly.

I do have the old scansoft voices but I do want a 64 bit voice package and no eloquence is not my choice for voices.

Its a pitty acapella sapi voices cost so much to buy on their infovox format.

Buying them for nvda just like the code factory voices is nice but I want my voices in other things.

There is the ivona which could cost a bit but to be honest what should I go for.

On 22/02/2018 2:19 a.m., Chris Shook wrote:
No, the sapi package does not include Eloquence. However, you can buy the eloquence package for sixty-nine  dollars.


.


Re: OEClassic gets an update fixing more accessibility issues

Sarah k Alawami
 

As a general role I do my best and google for what I need first. This causes me to learn about operateors etc and I might get information a lot faster than this list, or any other lists. If I cannot find the info I will reference the fact I did google for it and got no results.

Take care

On Feb 21, 2018, at 6:41 PM, Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...> wrote:

thanks can we close this list to many questions are being asked when we can rely on google.
 
 
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OEClassic gets an update fixing more accessibility issues

A Google search for OE Classic identities shows this article as the first result:
 
Yes, it has identities.  It doesn't say whether they are available in both the free and paid versions. 
 
See this page, containing a table about features.  You can't read it using table commands but just down arrowing through it reads self-explanatory lines and it makes perfect sense and is in logical order. 
Identities are only available in the pro version, which you must pay for.
Message rules are available in both versions.
 
Gene
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Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OEClassic gets an update fixing more accessibility issues

The question is, does it have identities in a free or relatively cheap
version. This and message rules are the most important things along with
read and unread flag reading etc.
 Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OEClassic gets an update fixing more accessibility
issues


I did some web crawling. The pro version has identities, so not sure if that
is something you want, but I would comb through all of their news section
( https://www.oeclassic.com/news ) to see what features have been added. The
free version is on 27 now. 28, the more accessible version, will be free
when the pro version shoots up to 29. I can wait. No big deal for me, but I
think it is a one time payment? And you get upgrades for life? I'll have to
look at the website again though.





Re: OEClassic gets an update fixing more accessibility issues

Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
 

thanks can we close this list to many questions are being asked when we can rely on google.
 
 
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OEClassic gets an update fixing more accessibility issues

A Google search for OE Classic identities shows this article as the first result:
 
Yes, it has identities.  It doesn't say whether they are available in both the free and paid versions. 
 
See this page, containing a table about features.  You can't read it using table commands but just down arrowing through it reads self-explanatory lines and it makes perfect sense and is in logical order. 
Identities are only available in the pro version, which you must pay for.
Message rules are available in both versions.
 
Gene
-Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 6:24 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OEClassic gets an update fixing more accessibility issues

The question is, does it have identities in a free or relatively cheap
version. This and message rules are the most important things along with
read and unread flag reading etc.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OEClassic gets an update fixing more accessibility
issues


I did some web crawling. The pro version has identities, so not sure if that
is something you want, but I would comb through all of their news section
( https://www.oeclassic.com/news ) to see what features have been added. The
free version is on 27 now. 28, the more accessible version, will be free
when the pro version shoots up to 29. I can wait. No big deal for me, but I
think it is a one time payment? And you get upgrades for life? I'll have to
look at the website again though.




Re: OEClassic gets an update fixing more accessibility issues

Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
 

Are you telling me to unsubscribe from this list?
I'll just use Google as my support?
The reason I ask questions here is because if another blind person has the
URL, that means they may be using the software, and I will give it a shot.
In my experience, TB, OEclassic, are not as good as outlook.
I've been using outlook 2003 and it's hard to change a goat.
I'm not sure the point you are trying to make, don't ask questions on the
list?
I'm still having a hell of a time with TB and I have looked at help and
sometimes getting a prospective from a blind person can be really helpful.
If people don't want questions on a tech list for the bind please state
that in a list of rules, such as don't ask questions until you have made
sure to exhaust, all resources before asking a question on this list?
A clarification by someone wood be appreciated.
Have a great day!



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https://www.oeclassic.com/download


Strange that innit?
Simply search for these things on Google its faster than asking here!

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Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OEClassic gets an update fixing more accessibility
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where do we find OE classic?



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brice Mijares
Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2018 7:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] OEClassic gets an update fixing more accessibility
issues

Okay, thanks for the clarification.

On 2/20/2018 5:44 AM, Gene wrote:
This is a different program.?? It's OE Classic.?? You are talking
about the original Outlook express.
Gene
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*Sent:* Tuesday, February 20, 2018 7:39 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] OEClassic gets an update fixing more
accessibility issues

Didn't I hear when windows 10 has a major update it removes OE?

On 2/20/2018 5:05 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:
> I did some web crawling. The pro version has identities, so not
sure if > that is something you want, but I would comb through all
of their news > section <https://www.oeclassic.com/news>; to see what
features have been > added. The free version is on 27 now. 28, the
more accessible version, > will be free when the pro version shoots
up to 29. I can wait. No big > deal for me, but I think it is a one
time payment? And you get upgrades > for life? I'll have to look at
the
website again though.
>







Re: Firefox ESR

Gene
 

Openbook is one example.  Winamp, if you don't use it for files that might be malicious from untrustworthy sources such as certain untrustworthy web sites.  I use Winamp to play safe files, mainly things I've recorded myself or digitized myself or that come from known trusted sources.  MP3 Direct cut, a recording program is another example.
 
Depending on how you use your word processor program, that may not need to be upgraded.  If it no longer receives security upgrades, my understanding is that if you disable things that might allow malicious code to run, such as if your program runs macros automatically, that you can use it safely.  Of course, if you need to use newer file types, you won't be able to do that.  You might be able to read them, but not alter them and save them in the same file type. 
 
I would think that if I thought about programs, I could think of many more but I can't just now.  Others may want to give examples but what I've said gives various examples of some programs that you can use even if they may not receive security updates.
 
I've seen complaints about the latest version of Winamp in terms of stability.  It would normally be a good idea to use the newest version if you are playing files you aren't very confident in.  But there are times when an older version of a program is superior.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 6:51 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR

What software does not run in such an environment?

I can only think of machines without a network connection, and that's hardly
useful these days (secure, agreed, but what can they do?).


Antony.

On Thursday 22 February 2018 at 00:39:12, Gene wrote:

> Not all software.  All software that you use in an environment where it
> comes into contact with possibly malicious content such as browsers.
> There is lots of software that you don't need to upgrade.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Antony Stone
> Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:11 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR
>
>
> "ESR" means Extended Support Release.
>
> Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they
> promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.
>
> There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release
> unless:
>
> a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
> latest one
>
> or
>
> b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want
> to update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in
> between which you are happy with.
>
> Basically, do not run unsupported software.  If security vulnerabilities
> are discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody
> else's fault.
>
> So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version
> (which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
> before that version becomes unsupported.
>
> The above is true for all software, not just Firefox.  Not all projects
> have ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term
> Release.
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:
> > What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?
> >
> > Andrea

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Re: Firefox ESR

John Isige
 

Quite a lot really. For example, most machines that do heavy audio or video work are generally recommended to be dedicated machines that don't connect to a network. You could set up a gaming machine like that, put whatever games on it and then run them. Basically you either upgrade everything by downloading stuff and putting it on a drive that you connect to the machine, or only allow the machine to be connected to the internet at specific times, e.g. to download updates.


I could do quite a lot on my current machine with no internet, read, listen to music, learn an instrument, program, you get the idea. I'll grant you, chunks of the stuff that allow me to do that stuff without internet came from the internet to begin with. But it's not like you need to be connected 24/7 in order to do meaningful things with a machine.

On 2/21/2018 18:51, Antony Stone wrote:
What software does not run in such an environment?

I can only think of machines without a network connection, and that's hardly
useful these days (secure, agreed, but what can they do?).


Antony.

On Thursday 22 February 2018 at 00:39:12, Gene wrote:

Not all software. All software that you use in an environment where it
comes into contact with possibly malicious content such as browsers.
There is lots of software that you don't need to upgrade.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Antony Stone
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR


"ESR" means Extended Support Release.

Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they
promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.

There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release
unless:

a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
latest one

or

b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want
to update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in
between which you are happy with.

Basically, do not run unsupported software. If security vulnerabilities
are discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody
else's fault.

So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version
(which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
before that version becomes unsupported.

The above is true for all software, not just Firefox. Not all projects
have ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term
Release.


Antony.

On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:
What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?

Andrea


Re: Firefox ESR

Gene
 

This isn't just something Mozilla does every now and then.  Extended Support releases may be used by anyone but they are intended for businesses and other institutions that don't want the program to be upgraded frequently.  The extended support release receives all security updates but the program itself doesn't upgrade for one year after release. 
 
The next ESR release will be this summer sometime in June, as I recall. 
 
Because of all the changes being made in firefox now that may impair performance for blind users and interfere with accessibility of some web sites, those who don't want to use the new versions are instructed to use the current ESR version which is version 52 of the program and was released before these changes took place.  Those who want to try the new versions, in particular those who want to try new versions and send feedback regarding problems and progress are encouraged to try the new versions as they are released.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR

Thanks for that.

Andrea


On 22/02/2018 10:11 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
> "ESR" means Extended Support Release.
>
> Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they
> promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.
>
> There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release unless:
>
> a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
> latest one
>
> or
>
> b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want to
> update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in between
> which you are happy with.
>
> Basically, do not run unsupported software.  If security vulnerabilities are
> discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody else's
> fault.
>
> So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version
> (which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
> before that version becomes unsupported.
>
> The above is true for all software, not just Firefox.  Not all projects have
> ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term Release.
>
>
> Antony.
>
> On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:
>
>> What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?
>>
>> Andrea

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Re: Firefox ESR

Antony Stone
 

What software does not run in such an environment?

I can only think of machines without a network connection, and that's hardly
useful these days (secure, agreed, but what can they do?).


Antony.

On Thursday 22 February 2018 at 00:39:12, Gene wrote:

Not all software. All software that you use in an environment where it
comes into contact with possibly malicious content such as browsers.
There is lots of software that you don't need to upgrade.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Antony Stone
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:11 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR


"ESR" means Extended Support Release.

Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they
promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.

There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release
unless:

a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
latest one

or

b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want
to update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in
between which you are happy with.

Basically, do not run unsupported software. If security vulnerabilities
are discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody
else's fault.

So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version
(which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
before that version becomes unsupported.

The above is true for all software, not just Firefox. Not all projects
have ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term
Release.


Antony.

On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:
What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?

Andrea
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Re: Windows 10 detected of virus in Virtual Recorder

Sarah k Alawami
 

Can you just exclude that from your virus scanner I don't know how to do this so read its manual if it indeed has one, or start in the settings and look for an exclude from scan list.

On Feb 21, 2018, at 3:19 PM, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com> wrote:

Early this morning when I am about to run the Virtual recorder and haven't use it for awhile the Windows Defender of my Windows 10 detected that there is a virus that's need to be scanned offline. not sure what happened but before the same program has been used with no problem for couple of months ago. Any thought or experience for this. Thanks.
--

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Re: Support for Chromium

Sarah k Alawami
 

There is an Sx access google chrome list. I'll have to find the subscribe links but they are a google group. So maybe going to the groups google home page and wearching there would help as well.

Good luck.

On Feb 21, 2018, at 3:35 PM, Adriani Botez <adriani.botez@gmail.com> wrote:

Dear all,

is it possible to improve support for this project?
https://github.com/bloomberg/chromium.bb

This is the browser used hwen working in bloomberg. It would help many users
who want to apply for jobs in finance.

I will test it on my work and provide you with more feedback on what exactly
is not working. But it would be good if some people here can test it too.

Thanks.

Best
Adriani





Re: Firefox ESR

Andrea Sherry
 

Thanks for that.

Andrea

On 22/02/2018 10:11 AM, Antony Stone wrote:
"ESR" means Extended Support Release.

Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they
promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.

There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release unless:

a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
latest one

or

b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want to
update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in between
which you are happy with.

Basically, do not run unsupported software. If security vulnerabilities are
discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody else's
fault.

So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version
(which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
before that version becomes unsupported.

The above is true for all software, not just Firefox. Not all projects have
ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term Release.


Antony.

On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:

What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?

Andrea
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Re: Firefox ESR

Gene
 

Not all software.  All software that you use in an environment where it comes into contact with possibly malicious content such as browsers.  There is lots of software that you don't need to upgrade. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 21, 2018 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox ESR

"ESR" means Extended Support Release.

Every now and then, a Firefox release is labeled as ESR, and it means they
promise to support it for longer than the other in-between releases.

There is no reason to switch from a standard release to an ESR release unless:

a) you like always running the latest release, and the ESR release is the
latest one

or

b) you are currently running a no-longer-supported release, you don't want to
update to the latest release, but there's an ESR release somewhere in between
which you are happy with.

Basically, do not run unsupported software.  If security vulnerabilities are
discovered, you may well run into problems and they will be nobody else's
fault.

So, either run a recent (supported) standard version, or run an ESR version
(which may be older, but has support for longer), but either way, update
before that version becomes unsupported.

The above is true for all software, not just Firefox.  Not all projects have
ESR versions, but many do - some are known as LTR - Long Term Release.


Antony.

On Wednesday 21 February 2018 at 23:58:42, Andrea Sherry wrote:

> What is this? Is it necessary to use instead of regular Firefox?
>
> Andrea

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Support for Chromium

Adriani Botez
 

Dear all,

is it possible to improve support for this project?
https://github.com/bloomberg/chromium.bb

This is the browser used hwen working in bloomberg. It would help many users
who want to apply for jobs in finance.

I will test it on my work and provide you with more feedback on what exactly
is not working. But it would be good if some people here can test it too.

Thanks.

Best
Adriani