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Re: NVDA log from previous execution
Hi, Hmmm, you say you’ve attached the log? I don’t see it. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 10:11 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA log from previous execution
Well, this happens from time to time and has for the past few versions. Since it is I will include the log snippit in this posting. This happens most often when I press the windows key while in Thunderbird but I have seen it in other apps as well.
The log is attached.
Dan Beaver
On 3/30/2018 11:35 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
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Re: NVDA log from previous execution
Dan Beaver
Well, this happens from time to time and has for the past few versions. Since it is I will include the log snippit in this posting. This happens most often when I press the windows key while in Thunderbird but I have seen it in other apps as well.
The log is attached.
Dan Beaver
On 3/30/2018 11:35 AM, Joseph Lee
wrote:
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Re: NVDA Chinese writing
Ervin, Glenn
Cool! That is good to know! Glenn
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 11:15 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing
Or to reset to nvda defaults, do the following
NVDA+Ctrl+R (3 times quickly) = Reset to default settings
This will completely reset nvda to defaults which will use your system language
And don’t forget to restart nvda after this, or changing the nvda language For changes to take affect
From: Tyler Spivey
Gene is just complicating the situation needlessly. Please try this:
1. Press NVDA+ctrl+g. This means hold down the NVDA key (insert), control and press g. 2. When that dialog comes up, press e. 3. Press enter twice.
If that doesn't work, and you don't mind deleting your NVDA configuration and starting again, do this: 1. Press windows+r for the run dialog. 2. Type %appdata% and press enter. This is percent, appdata, percent. 3. Find NVDA in that folder, open that, then in there find nvda.ini. Delete it. It's best to do all this with NVDA not running, since save configuration on exit will overwrite it.
On 3/30/2018 6:52 AM, Darrel Hughes via Groups.Io wrote: > Gene I only want to change it back to English and if you know how that > would be helpful . If you don't it's quite alright to say you don't > know how. > > > > *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene > *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2018 8:35 AM > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing > > > > When reporting problems, making statements of fact based on guesses > isn't a good idea. You could explain why you say you think it's Chinese > but unless you know that no other supported languages use alphabets that > look anything like the Chinese alphabet, at least to those who don't > know any of these alphabets, that is a statement based on a guess. > > > > I'm not going into this because it matters in this specific case, the > problem would be solved in the same way, whatever the language. But > when presenting any problem, don't present a guess as a statement of > fact. It may cause those trying to solve the problem to think it is > something different than it is. > > > > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:*Darrel Hughes via Groups.Io <mailto:darrel71@...> > > *Sent:*Friday, March 30, 2018 8:16 AM > > *To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > > *Subject:*Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing > > > > My wife told me that it looks like Chinese > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Antony > Stone > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:28 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing > > I don't know whether this is a silly question or not, but how do you know it > is Chinese? > > Antony. > > On Friday 30 March 2018 at 02:15:52, Darrel Hughes via Groups.Io wrote: > >> Helo everybody >> >> I am quite new to NVDA and I speak English and do not understand >> Chinese writing at all. For some reason my NVDA has only Chinese >> writing. Does anyone have a solution? >> >> Thanks >> Darrel > > -- > I want to build a machine that will be proud of me. > > - Danny Hillis, creator of The Connection Machine > > Please reply to the list; > please *don't* CC > me. > > > > >
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Re: NVDA Chinese writing
Chris
Or to reset to nvda defaults, do the following
NVDA+Ctrl+R (3 times quickly) = Reset to default settings
This will completely reset nvda to defaults which will use your system language
And don’t forget to restart nvda after this, or changing the nvda language For changes to take affect
From: Tyler Spivey
Sent: 30 March 2018 15:15 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing
Gene is just complicating the situation needlessly. Please try this:
1. Press NVDA+ctrl+g. This means hold down the NVDA key (insert), control and press g. 2. When that dialog comes up, press e. 3. Press enter twice.
If that doesn't work, and you don't mind deleting your NVDA configuration and starting again, do this: 1. Press windows+r for the run dialog. 2. Type %appdata% and press enter. This is percent, appdata, percent. 3. Find NVDA in that folder, open that, then in there find nvda.ini. Delete it. It's best to do all this with NVDA not running, since save configuration on exit will overwrite it.
On 3/30/2018 6:52 AM, Darrel Hughes via Groups.Io wrote: > Gene I only want to change it back to English and if you know how that > would be helpful . If you don't it's quite alright to say you don't > know how. > > > > *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Gene > *Sent:* Friday, March 30, 2018 8:35 AM > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io > *Subject:* Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing > > > > When reporting problems, making statements of fact based on guesses > isn't a good idea. You could explain why you say you think it's Chinese > but unless you know that no other supported languages use alphabets that > look anything like the Chinese alphabet, at least to those who don't > know any of these alphabets, that is a statement based on a guess. > > > > I'm not going into this because it matters in this specific case, the > problem would be solved in the same way, whatever the language. But > when presenting any problem, don't present a guess as a statement of > fact. It may cause those trying to solve the problem to think it is > something different than it is. > > > > Gene > > ----- Original Message ----- > > *From:*Darrel Hughes via Groups.Io <mailto:darrel71@...> > > *Sent:*Friday, March 30, 2018 8:16 AM > > *To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > > *Subject:*Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing > > > > My wife told me that it looks like Chinese > > -----Original Message----- > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Antony > Stone > Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:28 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing > > I don't know whether this is a silly question or not, but how do you know it > is Chinese? > > Antony. > > On Friday 30 March 2018 at 02:15:52, Darrel Hughes via Groups.Io wrote: > >> Helo everybody >> >> I am quite new to NVDA and I speak English and do not understand >> Chinese writing at all. For some reason my NVDA has only Chinese >> writing. Does anyone have a solution? >> >> Thanks >> Darrel > > -- > I want to build a machine that will be proud of me. > > - Danny Hillis, creator of The Connection Machine > > Please reply to the list; > please *don't* CC > me. > > > > >
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Re: NVDA log from previous execution
Hi, Usually restarting NVDA should sort this out. If this happens again, please do send the log fragment to the forum so we can find out what went wrong (although I have an idea as to what, but just want to make sure). Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:32 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA log from previous execution
Ok, I figured out how to find the logs.
It looks like it is happening because of a UIA error.
Should I turn off anything to stop this? Not sure how to approach this one.
Dan Beaver
On 3/30/2018 9:34 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:
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Re: NVDA log from previous execution
Dan Beaver
Ok, I figured out how to find the logs.
It looks like it is happening because of a UIA error.
Should I turn off anything to stop this? Not sure how to approach this one.
Dan Beaver
On 3/30/2018 9:34 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:
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Re: [SUSPECT URL!]Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing
Ervin, Glenn
Well, you could bring up Narrator while it is speaking in the other language, and although you will hear both, you can focus on Narrator enough to follow it to change NVDA’s settings. HTH. Glenn
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Darrel Hughes via Groups.Io
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:30 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [SUSPECT URL!]Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing
Only in the NVDA menus
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]
On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Hi
Where abouts is the writing? is it in the nvda menus? so all the menus are in another language? or do you mean when you are reading say a email and now and again you hear it speaking like in another language??
Gene nz
On 3/30/2018 1:15 PM, Darrel Hughes via Groups.Io wrote:
-- Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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Re: NVDA Chinese writing
Hi everyone, If menus and dialogs on Windows are in English, then it could be an NVDA problem unless the synthesizer announces things in other languages. The cause, as pointed out by Tyler, is NVDA’s UI language. Please follow Tyler’s instructions to return to English (or rather, force English). The real solution is:
Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 7:18 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing
I'm not sure how to solve it. But the reason I brought up the issue is to raise the question of whether there is an underlying problem. I don't know how to determine the language the computer is set to. Since the NVDA default is to use the default language of the computer, that may mean that the computer is set to use the wrong language. others will, I expect, be able to discuss that question further.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:52 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing
Gene I only want to change it back to English and if you know how that would be helpful . If you don't it's quite alright to say you don't know how.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
When reporting problems, making statements of fact based on guesses isn't a good idea. You could explain why you say you think it's Chinese but unless you know that no other supported languages use alphabets that look anything like the Chinese alphabet, at least to those who don't know any of these alphabets, that is a statement based on a guess.
I'm not going into this because it matters in this specific case, the problem would be solved in the same way, whatever the language. But when presenting any problem, don't present a guess as a statement of fact. It may cause those trying to solve the problem to think it is something different than it is.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing
My wife told me that it looks like Chinese
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Re: NVDA Chinese writing
Gene
I'm not sure how to solve it. But the reason
I brought up the issue is to raise the question of whether there is an
underlying problem. I don't know how to determine the language the
computer is set to. Since the NVDA default is to use the default language
of the computer, that may mean that the computer is set to use the wrong
language. others will, I expect, be able to discuss
that question further.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing Gene I only want to change it back to English and if you know how that would be helpful . If you don't it's quite alright to say you don't know how.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
When reporting problems, making statements of fact based on guesses isn't a good idea. You could explain why you say you think it's Chinese but unless you know that no other supported languages use alphabets that look anything like the Chinese alphabet, at least to those who don't know any of these alphabets, that is a statement based on a guess.
I'm not going into this because it matters in this specific case, the problem would be solved in the same way, whatever the language. But when presenting any problem, don't present a guess as a statement of fact. It may cause those trying to solve the problem to think it is something different than it is.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing
My wife told me that it looks
like Chinese
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Re: NVDA Chinese writing
Tyler Spivey
Gene is just complicating the situation needlessly.
toggle quoted messageShow quoted text
Please try this: 1. Press NVDA+ctrl+g. This means hold down the NVDA key (insert), control and press g. 2. When that dialog comes up, press e. 3. Press enter twice. If that doesn't work, and you don't mind deleting your NVDA configuration and starting again, do this: 1. Press windows+r for the run dialog. 2. Type %appdata% and press enter. This is percent, appdata, percent. 3. Find NVDA in that folder, open that, then in there find nvda.ini. Delete it. It's best to do all this with NVDA not running, since save configuration on exit will overwrite it.
On 3/30/2018 6:52 AM, Darrel Hughes via Groups.Io wrote:
Gene I only want to change it back to English and if you know how that
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Re: nvda and edge
Sylvie Duchateau
Hello Gary,
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I just reproduced the steps you described. I looked for the beginning of the newsletter in pressing the H key. Then NVDA started reading. When it came to "heading 3 New Features" NVDA started to announce there was a list with 7 items. Nested lists were also read correctly. So I don't understand what can go wrong with your experience. Pressing l to reach this list let NVDA read the list, but nothing is repeated. So I am sorry I cannot help more. Did you try to restart Edge and / or NVDA? Have a nice week-end Sylvie
Le 30/03/2018 à 15:02, Gary Metzler a écrit :
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Re: NVDA Chinese writing
Darrel Hughes
Gene I only want to change it back to English and if you know how that would be helpful . If you don't it's quite alright to say you don't know how.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:35 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing
When reporting problems, making statements of fact based on guesses isn't a good idea. You could explain why you say you think it's Chinese but unless you know that no other supported languages use alphabets that look anything like the Chinese alphabet, at least to those who don't know any of these alphabets, that is a statement based on a guess.
I'm not going into this because it matters in this specific case, the problem would be solved in the same way, whatever the language. But when presenting any problem, don't present a guess as a statement of fact. It may cause those trying to solve the problem to think it is something different than it is.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:16 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing
My wife told me that it looks like Chinese
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Re: Excerpt from Espeak NG list
Reece H. Dunn
On Fri, Mar 30, 2018 at 05:40 am, Gene wrote:
The issue referenced in this discussion talked about there being too much emphasis on the "n", "as if there is an extra "g" at the end of it before the next word begins. The only change made in that regard is the one I talked about -- espeak-ng is not/was not inserting an extra g sound in that case. Compare "singer" (no "g") and "linger" (with a "g") for an example of eSpeak and eSpeak NG pronouncing the "g" sound. With the -ing ending, some accents (e.g. London/cockney) say it as "in" (e.g. somethin'), other accents. In https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_FtnOTLkSs&t=137, the female speaker uses the velarised n without a g, and the male (cokney) speaker uses a regular n sound. When the -ing not the final part of the word such as with an -er ending like in stronger and linger, some accents pronounce the g while others do not. In https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvLfIMepxJ8 the g is pronounced in the word linger. For the word "singer", in https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BJaEpvEcrsA, the first American speaker, and both British and Scottish speakers pronounces the "g", while the second American speaker and the Irish speakers do not.
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Re: loading nvda not there
Jonathan COHN
This is not a function of exactly but of the Windows explorer application. If you have a NVDA icon on your desktop and that icon has a shortcut key associated with it than the alt-control-N will work.
So, find the NVDA on the desktop, and then type control-enter to open its properties. Tab through the dialog until you hear shortcut and then type N followed by enter. At this point the keystroke should be working again. You can do equivalent process for other items on your desktop like Word or Mail, if you like.
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Re: NVDA Chinese writing
Gene
When reporting problems, making statements of fact
based on guesses isn't a good idea. You could explain why you say you
think it's Chinese but unless you know that no other supported languages use
alphabets that look anything like the Chinese alphabet, at least to those who
don't know any of these alphabets, that is a statement based on a guess.
I'm not going into this because it matters in this
specific case, the problem would be solved in the same way, whatever the
language. But when presenting any problem, don't present a guess as a
statement of fact. It may cause those trying to solve the problem to think
it is something different than it is.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Antony Stone Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 6:28 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing I don't know whether this is a silly question or not, but how do you know it is Chinese? Antony. On Friday 30 March 2018 at 02:15:52, Darrel Hughes via Groups.Io wrote: > Helo everybody > > I am quite new to NVDA and I speak English and do not understand > Chinese writing at all. For some reason my NVDA has only Chinese > writing. Does anyone have a solution? > > Thanks > Darrel -- I want to build a machine that will be proud of me. - Danny Hillis, creator of The Connection Machine Please reply to the list; please *don't* CC me.
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NVDA log from previous execution
Dan Beaver
Hi,
I am having a problem and thought I'd see if I could get a log of it. The problem is that often if I am in Thunderbird or another app and I press the windows key NVDA seems to crash. I have to restart it.
I can see how to get to the current execution log but not the log from the execution when the crash happened. How do I find this?
thanks.
Dan Beaver
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Re: nvda and edge
Jonathan COHN
What keys were you using to read the bulleted list? Read all, extended arrow or numeric keypad arrows. (or perhaps (i) for going to the next list item.
From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gary Metzler <gmtravel@...>
Hi Sylvie,
Thank you for getting back to me. Here is what I did. I went to the link in the e mail and opened the web page. I then used the h command to go to the in process heading. I then used the say all command to read the newsletter. When it got to the bulleted list is where it started repeating. I hope this is clear. Thanks again for your response.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
On Behalf Of Sylvie Duchateau
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 3:09 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda and edge
Hello Garry, I just tried reading the in process with NVDA and Edge and I encountered no problem. Could you describe what you are doing and when the problem occurs? Did you try reading other web sites? Best Sylvie Le 29/03/2018 à 18:56, Gary Metzler a écrit :
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Re: NVDA Chinese writing
Darrel Hughes
Only in the NVDA menus
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 2:22 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing
Hi
Where abouts is the writing? is it in the nvda menus? so all the menus are in another language? or do you mean when you are reading say a email and now and again you hear it speaking like in another language??
Gene nz
On 3/30/2018 1:15 PM, Darrel Hughes via Groups.Io wrote:
-- Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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Re: NVDA Chinese writing
Darrel Hughes
NVDA reads all English in English and reads all Chinese in Chinese. The Chinese writing appears only in the NVDA which prevents me from understanding the words for me to change the settings
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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 2:26 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing I'm not really sure what you mean here. Aware you saying that its set to chinese, and trying to read English as if it were Chinese? The language setting must have been tweaked for this. Look in the preferences and see what its actually set to. Normally its system default, which is usually what it says it is, the language windows uses. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrel Hughes via Groups.Io" <darrel71=aol.com@groups.io> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, March 30, 2018 1:15 AM Subject: [nvda] NVDA Chinese writing Helo everybody I am quite new to NVDA and I speak English and do not understand Chinese writing at all. For some reason my NVDA has only Chinese writing. Does anyone have a solution? Thanks Darrel
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Re: NVDA Chinese writing
Jonathan COHN
We need a little more information before this can be answered.
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From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of "Darrel Hughes via Groups.Io" <darrel71@...>
Helo everybody
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