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Re: Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,

No log fragment on freezes or restarts here.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sam Bushman
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 2:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: 'Joseph Lee' <joseph.lee22590@...>
Subject: [nvda] Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

 

Hi Joseph and All,

 

For some reason on certain messages in outlook 2016 when I press enter on a message to read it restarts outlook.

This does not happen in JAWS but happens in NVDA. If I reboot the problem goes away for a while then comes back.

 

Please see my log for more info:

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

INFO - __main__ (15:34:40.739):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.114):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (15:34:41.114):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

NVDA version master-14940,e78e72f9

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Windows version 10.0.16299 workstation

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using comtypes version 1.1.3

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:34:42.558):

Loaded synthDriver eloquence

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.558):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Using liblouis version 3.3.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (15:34:42.565):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (15:34:42.586):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.592):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs._UIAHandlerEx.UIAHandlerEx.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.760):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.946):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 1196 (nvda_slave.exe) (15:34:49.489):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 91, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1245, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (15:35:24.890):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'PCM Plus'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x06F797B0>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: (0, 5, 120, 88)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 5576) at address 6d29e30>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'10.0.16299.15'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65912

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855744

windowThreadID: 5580

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x8f91df0 at 6e43e90>

IAccessibleChildID: 1

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65912, objectID=-4, childID=1

IAccessible accName: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED, STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922950)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None

 

 
Problems with latest nvda and outlook 2016 and windows 10

Sam Bushman
 

Hi Joseph and All,

 

For some reason on certain messages in outlook 2016 when I press enter on a message to read it restarts outlook.

This does not happen in JAWS but happens in NVDA. If I reboot the problem goes away for a while then comes back.

 

Please see my log for more info:

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

INFO - __main__ (15:34:40.739):

Starting NVDA

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.114):

Config dir: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (15:34:41.114):

Loading config: C:\Users\User\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

NVDA version master-14940,e78e72f9

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Windows version 10.0.16299 workstation

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using Python version 2.7.14 (v2.7.14:84471935ed, Sep 16 2017, 20:19:30) [MSC v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (15:34:41.176):

Using comtypes version 1.1.3

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (15:34:42.558):

Loaded synthDriver eloquence

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.558):

Using wx version 3.0.2.0 msw (classic)

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (15:34:42.563):

Using liblouis version 3.3.0

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (15:34:42.565):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

WARNING - core.main (15:34:42.586):

Java Access Bridge not available

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.592):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation3

INFO - external:globalPlugins.wintenObjs._UIAHandlerEx.UIAHandlerEx.MTAThreadFunc (15:34:42.760):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5

INFO - core.main (15:34:42.946):

NVDA initialized

ERROR - RPC process 1196 (nvda_slave.exe) (15:34:49.489):

__main__.main:

slave error

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 91, in main

  File "comHelper.pyc", line 22, in _lresultFromGetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\client\__init__.pyc", line 180, in GetActiveObject

  File "comtypes\__init__.pyc", line 1245, in GetActiveObject

  File "_ctypes/callproc.c", line 950, in GetResult

WindowsError: [Error -2147221021] Operation unavailable

INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo (15:35:24.890):

Developer info for navigator object:

name: u'PCM Plus'

role: ROLE_LISTITEM

states: STATE_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SELECTABLE, STATE_FOCUSED, STATE_SELECTED

isFocusable: True

hasFocus: True

Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x06F797B0>

Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithFakeNavigation'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.behaviors.RowWithoutCellObjects'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItemWithoutColumnSupport'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class 'documentBase.TextContainerObject'>, <class 'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>, <type 'object'>)

description: None

location: (0, 5, 120, 88)

value: None

appModule: <'explorer' (appName u'explorer', process ID 5576) at address 6d29e30>

appModule.productName: u'Microsoft\xae Windows\xae Operating System'

appModule.productVersion: u'10.0.16299.15'

TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>

windowHandle: 65912

windowClassName: u'SysListView32'

windowControlID: 1

windowStyle: 1442855744

windowThreadID: 5580

windowText: u'FolderView'

displayText: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x8f91df0 at 6e43e90>

IAccessibleChildID: 1

IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=65912, objectID=-4, childID=1

IAccessible accName: u'PCM Plus'

IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_LISTITEM

IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_SELECTED, STATE_SYSTEM_MULTISELECTABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSABLE, STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (19922950)

IAccessible accDescription: exception: (-2147352573, 'Member not found.', (None, None, None, 0, None))

IAccessible accValue: None

 

 
Re: Copying the path to a file

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

I’ve not experienced this. I somehow remember it wasn’t always a thing, but I’m certainly glad to be able to paste to command prompt nowadays.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik burggraaf
Sent: March 13, 2018 1:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Copying the path to a file

 

The Windows 10 command line will not let me paste anything from the clipboard into the terminal. Is anybody else having this issue?

Otherwise, this command is completely useful, and exactly what I needed right now. Thanks for sending it along.

On March 13, 2018 12:54:44 PM "JM Casey" <crystallogic@...> wrote:

Yes. I find this particularly useful when putting stuff in command line. For a while there I was playing around with an Apple 2 E emulator that had to be run from command line and the paths needing to be entered were getting quite long.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: March 13, 2018 12:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Copying the path to a file

 

Hi All,

I came across a great Windows keyboard command on-line…

This will be useful for working with music files, like making a playlist, but sometimes I hate those browse boxes when it does not open into the folder where the file is, and you have to back out and find the folder where you are wanting to open or attach a file.

So when you have the folder open and you are on top of the file, do the following:

Shift + applications key

Then press the letter A.

This will put the entire path and file name into the clipboard, ready for pasting into that browse field.

This works with or without a screenreader.

 

Glenn

 

 

Glenn Ervin  Orientation Counselor II

Norfolk Nebraska

402 370 3436

Cell: 402 992 0325

Welcome | NCBVI

 
Re: continuing research into Outlook 2016 crashes on Windows 7

Jonathan COHN
 

Joseph,

 

Thanks, pretty much confirms my guesses though I still have a long way to go before understanding all the components of NVDA. In any case, the control-1, control-2, and control-3 commands in current versions of Outlook at least cause Outlook to crash when NVDA is running, but not when JAWS is running. As you specified this seems to be an ongoing issue and was reported with XP and Outlook 2007 so has been going on for a while if not this specific case. I suppose I could install 365 on my testing Windows 10  VM and see if this is a issue directly related to bad UIA within Win7. I just hate to leave a bug alone when I have source code and can accurately reproduce at will.

 

Though right now I need to verify that our implementation of Keylock is fully WCAG compliant. So, I might have to stick this away for a weekend project.

 

Thanks,

 

Jonathan

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 4:24 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] continuing research into Outlook 2016 crashes on Windows 7

 

Hi,

I see. In short, from what I can tell, UIA bridge freezes when trying to obtain something from an app. There are numerous itHub issues regarding this problem.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] continuing research into Outlook 2016 crashes on Windows 7

 

OK, not quite sure but since my first query did not provide any information I decided to plow ahead.

 

Basic information from logs are:

  1. -2 typed.

Next item in NVDA log is: DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:37.355):

 

Followed by a couple of

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:52.367): Core frozen in stack:

 

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:15:07.414):

Core frozen in stack

 

 

At which point NVDA stops talking. After getting speech back through another screen reder, Outlook has a not responding message.

 

When I did a switch from Calendar View to Messages view I also got a debug watch dog but NVDA seemed to be able to clear it out with the following:

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:14:12.845):

Input: kb(desktop):control+1

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:14.868):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>

  File "core.pyo", line 473, in main

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper

 

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (15:14:15.085):

errors in this core pump cycle

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in _isUIAWindowHelper

  File "watchdog.pyo", line 195, in sendMessageCallCanceller

CallCancelled

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:14:15.493):

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+t

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:15.592):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>

  File "core.pyo", line 473, in main

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper

 

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (15:14:15.911):

errors in this core pump cycle

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in _isUIAWindowHelper

  File "watchdog.pyo", line 195, in sendMessageCallCanceller

CallCancelled

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:16.437):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>

  File "core.pyo", line 473, in main

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper

 

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.974):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728967 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728905 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728906 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728901 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728907 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728908 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728909 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728910 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.977):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728911 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

IO - speech.speak (15:14:19.016):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Inbox - jcohn@... - Outlook']

 

 

 

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 3:41 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] continuing research into Outlook 2016 crashes on Windows 7

 

Hi,

In order to verify your claim, I need an evidence please.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] continuing research into Outlook 2016 crashes on Windows 7

 

OK, some research makes me think that when I use the keyboard shortcut to change from Mailbox view to Calendar View in Outlook that the crash might be related to UIA not being handled correctly. Is there a way I could disable UIA for my copy of NVDA either in intirety or for Outlook just to execute this command without working with the NVDA core? I

 

So, could I write a Outlook addon that disables UIA when in the SuperGrid or in the INI files?

 

Thanks!

 

Jonathan Cohn

 

 
Re: Other tool for solving the Verification Image

Mallard
 

I use Webvisum with a portable esr of version 52. Perfect. Free, and reliable.

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 13/03/2018 13:04, Chris via Groups.Io ha scritto:

Rumola is one i use to use with reliable captcha solving

But there is a cost, around a couple of dollars or so depending on how much you use it

They do give some free credit to try it first before you buy,

So try it for free first before you buy any credit

*From: *Robert Mendoza <mailto:lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
*Sent: *13 March 2018 09:57
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image

I tried it but no luck. However, someone here mentioned before the other tool they used I forgot the name of it and lost of my thread in my archive.

Robert Mendoza

On 3/13/2018 5:50 PM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

Have you tried webbissum on the Firefox esr?

As far as i know it should still work

Unless things have changed since the last time i used it

*From: *Robert Mendoza <mailto:lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
*Sent: *13 March 2018 09:38
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image

Yes, the audio sometimes hardly to understand.

Robert Mendoza

On 3/13/2018 4:51 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

> I'm assuming there is not usable audio version on the site you want to

> use.

> Brian

>

> bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>

> Sent via blueyonder.

> Please address personal E-mail to:-

> briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>,
putting 'Brian Gaff'

> in the display name field.

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Mendoza"

> <lowvisiontek@gmail.com> <mailto:lowvisiontek@gmail.com>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 11:55 PM

> Subject: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image

>

>

>> I know this has been posted before but could not retrieve the email

>> about the extension or addons for Firefox that is similar with

>> webvism. I appreciate if you could share it again here some

>> alternative option that I could use with on the Firefox ESR to solve

>> the capture or verification image.

>>

>>

>> --

>> Robert Mendoza

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

Re: Other tool for solving the Verification Image

Mallard
 

Rumola never worked for me. When I installed it, on first attempt to solve a captcha, I was told I had no more free trials. onsense!

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 13/03/2018 13:40, P. Otter ha scritto:
hello there and is it known if rumola will work on the newest version of firefox?
what i've seen a few weeks ago, it don't work with firefox 58 and above.
is that correct or is there a new add-on written for firefox?
cheers
paul otter


Op 13-3-2018 om 13:04 schreef Chris via Groups.Io:

Rumola is one i use to use with reliable captcha solving

But there is a cost, around a couple of dollars or so depending on how much you use it

They do give some free credit to try it first before you buy,

So try it for free first before you buy any credit

*From: *Robert Mendoza <mailto:lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
*Sent: *13 March 2018 09:57
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image

I tried it but no luck. However, someone here mentioned before the other tool they used I forgot the name of it and lost of my thread in my archive.

Robert Mendoza

On 3/13/2018 5:50 PM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

Have you tried webbissum on the Firefox esr?

As far as i know it should still work

Unless things have changed since the last time i used it

*From: *Robert Mendoza <mailto:lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
*Sent: *13 March 2018 09:38
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image

Yes, the audio sometimes hardly to understand.

Robert Mendoza

On 3/13/2018 4:51 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

> I'm assuming there is not usable audio version on the site you want to

> use.

> Brian

>

> bglists@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk>

> Sent via blueyonder.

> Please address personal E-mail to:-

> briang1@blueyonder.co.uk <mailto:briang1@blueyonder.co.uk>,
putting 'Brian Gaff'

> in the display name field.

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Robert Mendoza"

> <lowvisiontek@gmail.com> <mailto:lowvisiontek@gmail.com>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 11:55 PM

> Subject: [nvda] Other tool for solving the Verification Image

>

>

>> I know this has been posted before but could not retrieve the email

>> about the extension or addons for Firefox that is similar with

>> webvism. I appreciate if you could share it again here some

>> alternative option that I could use with on the Firefox ESR to solve

>> the capture or verification image.

>>

>>

>> --

>> Robert Mendoza

>>

>>

>>

>>

>

>

>

>

Re: continuing research into Outlook 2016 crashes on Windows 7

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,

I see. In short, from what I can tell, UIA bridge freezes when trying to obtain something from an app. There are numerous itHub issues regarding this problem.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 1:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] continuing research into Outlook 2016 crashes on Windows 7

 

OK, not quite sure but since my first query did not provide any information I decided to plow ahead.

 

Basic information from logs are:

  1. -2 typed.

Next item in NVDA log is: DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:37.355):

 

Followed by a couple of

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:52.367): Core frozen in stack:

 

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:15:07.414):

Core frozen in stack

 

 

At which point NVDA stops talking. After getting speech back through another screen reder, Outlook has a not responding message.

 

When I did a switch from Calendar View to Messages view I also got a debug watch dog but NVDA seemed to be able to clear it out with the following:

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:14:12.845):

Input: kb(desktop):control+1

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:14.868):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>

  File "core.pyo", line 473, in main

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper

 

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (15:14:15.085):

errors in this core pump cycle

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in _isUIAWindowHelper

  File "watchdog.pyo", line 195, in sendMessageCallCanceller

CallCancelled

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:14:15.493):

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+t

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:15.592):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>

  File "core.pyo", line 473, in main

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper

 

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (15:14:15.911):

errors in this core pump cycle

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in _isUIAWindowHelper

  File "watchdog.pyo", line 195, in sendMessageCallCanceller

CallCancelled

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:16.437):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>

  File "core.pyo", line 473, in main

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper

 

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.974):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728967 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728905 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728906 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728901 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728907 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728908 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728909 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728910 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.977):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728911 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

IO - speech.speak (15:14:19.016):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Inbox - jcohn@... - Outlook']

 

 

 

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 3:41 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] continuing research into Outlook 2016 crashes on Windows 7

 

Hi,

In order to verify your claim, I need an evidence please.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] continuing research into Outlook 2016 crashes on Windows 7

 

OK, some research makes me think that when I use the keyboard shortcut to change from Mailbox view to Calendar View in Outlook that the crash might be related to UIA not being handled correctly. Is there a way I could disable UIA for my copy of NVDA either in intirety or for Outlook just to execute this command without working with the NVDA core? I

 

So, could I write a Outlook addon that disables UIA when in the SuperGrid or in the INI files?

 

Thanks!

 

Jonathan Cohn

 

 
Re: continuing research into Outlook 2016 crashes on Windows 7

Jonathan COHN
 

OK, not quite sure but since my first query did not provide any information I decided to plow ahead.

 

Basic information from logs are:

  1. -2 typed.

Next item in NVDA log is: DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:37.355):

 

Followed by a couple of

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:52.367): Core frozen in stack:

 

WARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:15:07.414):

Core frozen in stack

 

 

At which point NVDA stops talking. After getting speech back through another screen reder, Outlook has a not responding message.

 

When I did a switch from Calendar View to Messages view I also got a debug watch dog but NVDA seemed to be able to clear it out with the following:

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:14:12.845):

Input: kb(desktop):control+1

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:14.868):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>

  File "core.pyo", line 473, in main

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper

 

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (15:14:15.085):

errors in this core pump cycle

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in _isUIAWindowHelper

  File "watchdog.pyo", line 195, in sendMessageCallCanceller

CallCancelled

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:14:15.493):

Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+t

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:15.592):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>

  File "core.pyo", line 473, in main

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper

 

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.Notify (15:14:15.911):

errors in this core pump cycle

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 321, in _isUIAWindowHelper

  File "watchdog.pyo", line 195, in sendMessageCallCanceller

CallCancelled

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:16.437):

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:

  File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module>

  File "core.pyo", line 473, in main

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop

  File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop

  File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 880, in pumpAll

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 654, in processFocusWinEvent

  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow

  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper

 

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.974):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728967 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728905 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728906 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728901 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728907 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728908 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728909 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.976):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728910 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (15:14:18.977):

oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66464, objectID 100728911 and childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error

IO - speech.speak (15:14:19.016):

Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Inbox - jcohn@... - Outlook']

 

 

 

Trying to recover from freeze, core stack

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 at 3:41 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] continuing research into Outlook 2016 crashes on Windows 7

 

Hi,

In order to verify your claim, I need an evidence please.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] continuing research into Outlook 2016 crashes on Windows 7

 

OK, some research makes me think that when I use the keyboard shortcut to change from Mailbox view to Calendar View in Outlook that the crash might be related to UIA not being handled correctly. Is there a way I could disable UIA for my copy of NVDA either in intirety or for Outlook just to execute this command without working with the NVDA core? I

 

So, could I write a Outlook addon that disables UIA when in the SuperGrid or in the INI files?

 

Thanks!

 

Jonathan Cohn

 
Re: Propellerhead reason accessibility

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Igor,


Thanks for the info brother. That seems to be the case most of the time
with programs like that, a real shame.


Tony

On 3/9/2018 6:25 AM, Igor Kaplan wrote:
Hi Tony.

The Propellerhead reason is the music production program. Very powerful, has a lot of samples, synthesizers and effects to join and mix together.
Unfortunately after playing with it for some time, I have to say, no, it is not accessible.

All the best.

Igor.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Tony Ballou
Sent: Friday, March 09, 2018 12:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Propellerhead reason accessibility

Hi Igor,


Never heard of this one, what type of program is it.


Tony


On 3/8/2018 8:22 PM, Igor Kaplan wrote:
Hello!
I would like to find out, if someone was able to use Propellerhead reason successfully with NVDA?
I have downloaded the trial version, it looks to be somewhat accessible and also has a lot of keyboard shortcuts, however since I have never used it before, I don't know, if it is accessible enough to do something useful!
Would love to hear some success or failure storyes!

All the best!

Igor.
Re: say copy selected text

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


There's an add on called clip speak, that will do this.  I don't think its on the add ons website anymore though.  I think because It works with windows 10 without a hitch that it should be; and I can drop box it too you if you like. 


Tony

On 2/3/2018 1:38 PM, Kevin wrote:

How can I set NVDA to say copy selected text to the clip board and other like commands when I copy, cut or paste!

 

E-mail is golden!!!
Kevin Lee

 
Re: Blown away by the NVDA/MS Word tutorial!

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


Absolutely!  There must haves for anyone who is in the teaching game or
had a career in it at some point. And even if you're not, they are more
than worth the investment.


Tony

On 2/6/2018 12:35 PM, Ann Byrne wrote:
As a computer instructor, I have spent years looking for the best
tutorial for MS Word.  Hoping to get Ms certification in Word, I have
spent years looking for the best  tutorial in MS Word.  Recently I
purchased from the  NVDA store the Word tutorial.  It cost $23.  I
have paid up to $100 for other instruction books.

this one is by far the best.  It includes operations I had wondered
about, and some I had never heard of.  I discovered little pieces of
information I had always wondered about--like what is mirroring in the
print dialog--and how to accomplish tasks I hadn't even thought
about.  The language is terse and to the point, leaving me sometimes
to wish for a little hand holding; but reviewing the instructions
always produces enough information to make my way through to success. 
I am totally blown away by the excellence and the incluusiveness of
this document.

Cudos!  Awesome!  Wow!

Ann

p.s.  My favorite program of all times is Excel.  I am on my way to
the store for the Excel tutorial.  It should be a total blast!
Re: winamp with NVDA

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


Yes it can.  I believe there's an add on for it on the add ons website. 


Tony

On 2/13/2018 2:27 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
hi guys
is there an addon for winamp?
or can NVDA work with it?
thanks
 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 12:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using VLC media player with NVDA

There is an add-on for it. That will help quite a bit with usage.




On 2/13/2018 8:56 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:
Has anyone any experience using the VLC media player with NVDA?  I've just installed it in order to take advantage of its ability to use a Chromecast, and, while I've gotten it to work, I'm wondering if anone has done a good tutorial for VLC, either with NVDA, or just in general.
Thanks.
Christopher BArtlett


--
Christopher Bartlett
Re: continuing research into Outlook 2016 crashes on Windows 7

Joseph Lee
 

Hi,

In order to verify your claim, I need an evidence please.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Tuesday, March 13, 2018 12:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] continuing research into Outlook 2016 crashes on Windows 7

 

OK, some research makes me think that when I use the keyboard shortcut to change from Mailbox view to Calendar View in Outlook that the crash might be related to UIA not being handled correctly. Is there a way I could disable UIA for my copy of NVDA either in intirety or for Outlook just to execute this command without working with the NVDA core? I

 

So, could I write a Outlook addon that disables UIA when in the SuperGrid or in the INI files?

 

Thanks!

 

Jonathan Cohn

 
continuing research into Outlook 2016 crashes on Windows 7

Jonathan COHN
 

OK, some research makes me think that when I use the keyboard shortcut to change from Mailbox view to Calendar View in Outlook that the crash might be related to UIA not being handled correctly. Is there a way I could disable UIA for my copy of NVDA either in intirety or for Outlook just to execute this command without working with the NVDA core? I

 

So, could I write a Outlook addon that disables UIA when in the SuperGrid or in the INI files?

 

Thanks!

 

Jonathan Cohn

 
Re: Registry fixing tool in nvda

Governor staten
 

The feature is in the latest next snapshot.




On 3/13/2018 1:56 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Gene,

 

the feature is not in next yet, but it will be soon I guess. There are still some things to do.

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. März 2018 03:28
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Registry fixing tool in nvda

 

Hi Adriani

Hopefully the snapshot fixes her problem. I am guessing hopefully she will let me ring her hopefully to a home number and guide her through the steps to get the snap shot etc and where to go in the menu etc.

Do you know if there is any more they need to do for that side of it or is it ready to go?.

Guess i will know when i get more feed back after she trys it out.

Gene nz

On 3/13/2018 2:55 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Yes Gene this should solve it.

 

Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Am 12.03.2018 um 23:36 schrieb Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>:

Hi

 

Will yesterdays snapshot be able to fix what is in the ticket below.

I asked Brian but because he is say 12 hours behind us I might not know for a while.

 

NVDA stops reading webpages in all browser - saying "unknown" or "pane" (#2807)

The above is the ticket number.

 

If this is the case i know of a person who has contacted me with the what is described in the ticket. I am sure also she is using windows 10 but could get more info from her if needed.

 

 

I am hoping the next snapshot where the tool is under the tools menu might fix the problem or am i wrong?

 

She needs a way to register those files that are broken where it says unknown or pane.

 

 

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/13/2018 10:36 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

This registry tool in NVDA only registers the required dlls for the accessibility API to comunicate properly with NVDA. You will not be able to edit your registry with it.

 

You can use CCleaner for that purpose.

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von ely.r@...
Gesendet: Montag, 12. März 2018 22:33
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Registry fixing tool in nvda

 

Question from a long time Window Eyes user. At present Windows can’t update to the latest version as it thinks there is an incompatible program installed on my computer. That program is Window Eyes. I have correctly uninstalled WE and have done multiple searches to try and find remnants. My best guess is that it is lurking still in my registry. I am not foolish enough to try editing my registry, and Leary of using any of the “registry cleaners.” Any chance that this addon would find such a lingering registry entry. When I read “other programs” I assume other access software. I am not having the issues described in this thread, but. . . .

Any advice out there?

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 3:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Registry fixing tool in nvda

 

Hi

 

Just had a quick look is this a snapshot to fix the unknown and pane problems that some people have had in the past? if it is and it works it would be far easier than the other way which i have been posting from time to time.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/13/2018 12:10 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I know a number of people here have had serious issues with browsers not reading word not working right with nvda and other associated problems.
For some time now this has been known to be due to  registry issues due to uninstallers of other software not correctly registering important files. The latest next snapshot has a tool to fix this, rather predictably in its tool menu, so if you are having such issues, it may well be a good idea to try this version of nvda and use the tool.
it should do no harm, but do remember that next snaps are bleeding edge code and will need to be used with caution. Always back up your previous version and set a restore point before doing any work on registry files. Note the account that its used on has to have admin access or it won't work.

Here is what the  entry says.

commit 8793a65c7aa65949a9043aafc932627ff158c90a
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Thu 08 Mar 2018 09:41:04 +1000
Installer: re-register some common COM interfaces which commonly get broken by bad uninstallers.
Raw diff
commit d3a9795e75cdbe9241d11eecb9a98fbe774a17f7
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 12:06:37 +1000
COMRegistrationFixes tool: add a backslash to the systemDrive. Also deremove some unused functions.
Raw diff
commit 3a5abd72a307fbe02779111dfee3bc5f5371345d
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 12:07:19 +1000
Add the COM Registrations Fixing tool to NVDA's Tools menu.
Raw diff
commit e1d79784de5f0b77343992e61b1fb811a9dc826e
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 15:43:05 +1000
Add a warning dialog to the COM Registration Fixing tool when run manually from the Tools menu.
Raw diff
commit 7c2e945533f7386b4b3142281e23009997f5d801
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 17:44:10 +1000
Add copyright header
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commit 877362bde2e108fae69c067cb26bdd797843caa8
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 17:48:11 +1000
Add a module docstring
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commit e550d32924b55272e05254eada58c9bb04fd1ae7
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 17:55:53 +1000
Incubates #8075
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Re: where to find nvda tutorials

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


Sorry for responding to this so late.  Try this link. 


http://www.josephsl.net/tutorials/


Also you can go to http://www.accessibilitycentral.net for more information and tutorials for NVDA and other programs.


Hope this helps.


Tony


On 3/1/2018 11:22 AM, Marisane Moruthanyana wrote:

Morning Joseph

 

I am Marisane from SA.

 

I tried to visit your website, i.e. http://www.josephsl.net, but am not able to see the content on the website.

 

How do I see it?

 

Besides, where to find the tutorials?

 

Your assistance is appreciated in advance.

 

Marisane
Re: Gmail using thunderbird

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


Sorry about getting to this so late.  Yes, it certainly can.  Once you install Thunderbird, when it prompts for adding an account, enter your Gmail account information and all should be gravy.


Tony


On 3/5/2018 7:57 PM, Arlene wrote:

Hi list. Arlene here: Can Gmail be added to thunderbird?  How does one do it?  Thanks any help will be appriciated. 


Re: Registry fixing tool in nvda

Adriani Botez
 

Gene,

 

the feature is not in next yet, but it will be soon I guess. There are still some things to do.

 

Best

Adriani

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New Zealand
Gesendet: Dienstag, 13. März 2018 03:28
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Registry fixing tool in nvda

 

Hi Adriani

Hopefully the snapshot fixes her problem. I am guessing hopefully she will let me ring her hopefully to a home number and guide her through the steps to get the snap shot etc and where to go in the menu etc.

Do you know if there is any more they need to do for that side of it or is it ready to go?.

Guess i will know when i get more feed back after she trys it out.

Gene nz

On 3/13/2018 2:55 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

Yes Gene this should solve it.

 

Von meinem iPhone gesendet


Am 12.03.2018 um 23:36 schrieb Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>:

Hi

 

Will yesterdays snapshot be able to fix what is in the ticket below.

I asked Brian but because he is say 12 hours behind us I might not know for a while.

 

NVDA stops reading webpages in all browser - saying "unknown" or "pane" (#2807)

The above is the ticket number.

 

If this is the case i know of a person who has contacted me with the what is described in the ticket. I am sure also she is using windows 10 but could get more info from her if needed.

 

 

I am hoping the next snapshot where the tool is under the tools menu might fix the problem or am i wrong?

 

She needs a way to register those files that are broken where it says unknown or pane.

 

 

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/13/2018 10:36 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

This registry tool in NVDA only registers the required dlls for the accessibility API to comunicate properly with NVDA. You will not be able to edit your registry with it.

 

You can use CCleaner for that purpose.

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von ely.r@...
Gesendet: Montag, 12. März 2018 22:33
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Registry fixing tool in nvda

 

Question from a long time Window Eyes user. At present Windows can’t update to the latest version as it thinks there is an incompatible program installed on my computer. That program is Window Eyes. I have correctly uninstalled WE and have done multiple searches to try and find remnants. My best guess is that it is lurking still in my registry. I am not foolish enough to try editing my registry, and Leary of using any of the “registry cleaners.” Any chance that this addon would find such a lingering registry entry. When I read “other programs” I assume other access software. I am not having the issues described in this thread, but. . . .

Any advice out there?

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 3:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Registry fixing tool in nvda

 

Hi

 

Just had a quick look is this a snapshot to fix the unknown and pane problems that some people have had in the past? if it is and it works it would be far easier than the other way which i have been posting from time to time.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 3/13/2018 12:10 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I know a number of people here have had serious issues with browsers not reading word not working right with nvda and other associated problems.
For some time now this has been known to be due to  registry issues due to uninstallers of other software not correctly registering important files. The latest next snapshot has a tool to fix this, rather predictably in its tool menu, so if you are having such issues, it may well be a good idea to try this version of nvda and use the tool.
it should do no harm, but do remember that next snaps are bleeding edge code and will need to be used with caution. Always back up your previous version and set a restore point before doing any work on registry files. Note the account that its used on has to have admin access or it won't work.

Here is what the  entry says.

commit 8793a65c7aa65949a9043aafc932627ff158c90a
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Thu 08 Mar 2018 09:41:04 +1000
Installer: re-register some common COM interfaces which commonly get broken by bad uninstallers.
Raw diff
commit d3a9795e75cdbe9241d11eecb9a98fbe774a17f7
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 12:06:37 +1000
COMRegistrationFixes tool: add a backslash to the systemDrive. Also deremove some unused functions.
Raw diff
commit 3a5abd72a307fbe02779111dfee3bc5f5371345d
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 12:07:19 +1000
Add the COM Registrations Fixing tool to NVDA's Tools menu.
Raw diff
commit e1d79784de5f0b77343992e61b1fb811a9dc826e
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 15:43:05 +1000
Add a warning dialog to the COM Registration Fixing tool when run manually from the Tools menu.
Raw diff
commit 7c2e945533f7386b4b3142281e23009997f5d801
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 17:44:10 +1000
Add copyright header
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commit 877362bde2e108fae69c067cb26bdd797843caa8
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 17:48:11 +1000
Add a module docstring
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commit e550d32924b55272e05254eada58c9bb04fd1ae7
Author: Michael Curran <mick@...>
Date: Mon 12 Mar 2018 17:55:53 +1000
Incubates #8075
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Re: Copying the path to a file

Hareth
 

Erik,
Win10 both command prompt and power shell does let you paste text in
to via the ctrl plus V
unless you've opened an other interface within the command line it
self E.G android "ADB shell" interface,
in that case you still able to paste following these steps":
In the command interface press ALT plus space bar , then the letter "E"
select the edit operation you want to do like select all, copy, and
paste, ETC, from that sub menu and hit inter.
Done
Take care.
Re: Copying the path to a file

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

The Windows 10 command line will not let me paste anything from the clipboard into the terminal. Is anybody else having this issue?

Otherwise, this command is completely useful, and exactly what I needed right now. Thanks for sending it along.

On March 13, 2018 12:54:44 PM "JM Casey" <crystallogic@...> wrote:

Yes. I find this particularly useful when putting stuff in command line. For a while there I was playing around with an Apple 2 E emulator that had to be run from command line and the paths needing to be entered were getting quite long.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ervin, Glenn
Sent: March 13, 2018 12:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Copying the path to a file

 

Hi All,

I came across a great Windows keyboard command on-line…

This will be useful for working with music files, like making a playlist, but sometimes I hate those browse boxes when it does not open into the folder where the file is, and you have to back out and find the folder where you are wanting to open or attach a file.

So when you have the folder open and you are on top of the file, do the following:

Shift + applications key

Then press the letter A.

This will put the entire path and file name into the clipboard, ready for pasting into that browse field.

This works with or without a screenreader.

 

Glenn

 

 

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Norfolk Nebraska

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