Re: Error while updating to NVDA 2018.1 via the NVDA update utility.
Kevin Cussick
agreed I just don't understand why people put there computers at risk.
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On 12/03/2018 13:50, Devin Prater wrote:
This is a great message. Also, compare UAC to what Linux users have to do, typing in their whole root password when installing or updating programs sometimes. Compared to that, one keystroke is nothing.
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Re: Registry fixing tool in nvda
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Rick,
Maybe the microsoft disability disability center might be able to help you.
Rosemarie
On 3/12/2018 2:32 PM, ely.r@...
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Re: Registry fixing tool in nvda
Adriani Botez
This registry tool in NVDA only registers the required dlls for the accessibility API to comunicate properly with NVDA. You will not be able to edit your registry with it.
You can use CCleaner for that purpose.
Best Adriani
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von ely.r@...
Question from a long time Window Eyes user. At present Windows can’t update to the latest version as it thinks there is an incompatible program installed on my computer. That program is Window Eyes. I have correctly uninstalled WE and have done multiple searches to try and find remnants. My best guess is that it is lurking still in my registry. I am not foolish enough to try editing my registry, and Leary of using any of the “registry cleaners.” Any chance that this addon would find such a lingering registry entry. When I read “other programs” I assume other access software. I am not having the issues described in this thread, but. . . . Any advice out there? Rick
Dr. Rick Ely TVI, Vision Consultant 451 Rocky Hill Road Florence, MA 01062 &413() 727-3038
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 3:53 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Registry fixing tool in nvda
Hi
Just had a quick look is this a snapshot to fix the unknown and pane problems that some people have had in the past? if it is and it works it would be far easier than the other way which i have been posting from time to time.
Gene nz
On 3/13/2018 12:10 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
-- Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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Re: Registry fixing tool in nvda
ely.r@...
Question from a long time Window Eyes user. At present Windows can’t update to the latest version as it thinks there is an incompatible program installed on my computer. That program is Window Eyes. I have correctly uninstalled WE and have done multiple searches to try and find remnants. My best guess is that it is lurking still in my registry. I am not foolish enough to try editing my registry, and Leary of using any of the “registry cleaners.” Any chance that this addon would find such a lingering registry entry. When I read “other programs” I assume other access software. I am not having the issues described in this thread, but. . . . Any advice out there? Rick
Dr. Rick Ely TVI, Vision Consultant 451 Rocky Hill Road Florence, MA 01062 &413() 727-3038
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 3:53 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Registry fixing tool in nvda
Hi
Just had a quick look is this a snapshot to fix the unknown and pane problems that some people have had in the past? if it is and it works it would be far easier than the other way which i have been posting from time to time.
Gene nz
On 3/13/2018 12:10 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
-- Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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Re: Registry fixing tool in nvda
Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
Hi
Just had a quick look is this a snapshot to fix the unknown and pane problems that some people have had in the past? if it is and it works it would be far easier than the other way which i have been posting from time to time.
Gene nz
On 3/13/2018 12:10 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I know a number of people here have had serious issues with browsers not reading word not working right with nvda and other associated problems. --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers.
To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert exam.
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Re: NVDA chasing Outlook 365
Jonathan COHN
First off, I don’t know why crashing in the above subject got changed to “chasing” but in any case, I was able to get a debug log but it tells little more to me.
Essentially when control-two is typed which should switch the main Outlook view from what it is to the Calendar view, both NVDA and Outlook become unresponsive. It looks like NVDA pretty much just dies at the control-2 if I am reading the below portion of the log correctly. … IO - speech.speak (15:14:29.400): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'unread From Iv\xe1n Novegil via Groups.Io, Subject Re: [nvda] Windows10 Mail and NVDA: several bugs reported, Received Mon 3/12/2018 2:21 PM, Size 86 KB,'] IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (15:14:35.358): Input: kb(desktop):control+2 DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:37.355): Trying to recover from freeze, core stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module> File "core.pyo", line 473, in main File "wx\_core.pyo", line 8657, in MainLoop File "wx\_core.pyo", line 7952, in MainLoop File "core.pyo", line 443, in Notify File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 894, in pumpAll File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 617, in processGenericWinEvent File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 521, in winEventToNVDAEvent File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 327, in isUIAWindow File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 315, in _isUIAWindowHelper
WARNING - watchdog._watcher (15:14:52.367): Core frozen in stack: File "nvda.pyw", line 212, in <module> …
From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of "Cohn, Jonathan" <jcohn@...>
Hello,
I have recreated this situation but not done any debugging.
NVDA 2018.1 Outlook 365 Windows 7 enterprise
Switch back to Inbox listing with alt-tab Switch to calendar tab with control-2
At this point Outlook stops responding. I won’t be able to look at this further today, but besides simplifying down to not opening a message, what other actions do I need to do before submitting a ticket?
How do I turn on debug log as I know that will be useful. Are additional details about versions required?
Thanks,
Jonathan Cohn American Institutes for Research – Assessments Web Accessibility specialist
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Re: Windows10 Mail and NVDA: several bugs reported
Iván Novegil
Thank you very much for the reply. Please, if you can, comment on future updates related to this bug.
Regards. Iván Novegil Cancelas O 12/03/2018 á(s) 15:32, Joseph Lee
escribiu:
Hi, Looks like NVDA is told to use UIA directly. This is the case when traditional means of fetching information from Word and its components won't work (I need to better document this and others soon). Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 4:14 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows10 Mail and NVDA: several bugs reported I'll ask the next question which build of windows 10 is it he is using? I'm sure Joseph will ask otherwise! Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Iván Novegil via Groups.Io" <ivan.novegil@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 9:59 AM Subject: [nvda] Windows10 Mail and NVDA: several bugs reported Hello all. A Spanish user asked us about the following two bugs he has with Windows10's mail app. -When opening a mail to read it, NVDA reports "page 1". -When writing a message with word echo enabled and pressing space after typing a word with accented letters or "ñ" on it NVDA doesn't report it. Can someone try to reproduce these bugs to open an issue if needed? The two ones happened after updating to 2018.1 and using either Eloquence or eSpeakNG and with WinTenApps and without it. Thanks in advance. Regards.
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Re: Windows10 Mail and NVDA: several bugs reported
Iván Novegil
He's using 16299.125. A little correction: it doesn't happen with ñ as I've said, only
with accents.
Regards. Iván Novegil Cancelas O 12/03/2018 á(s) 12:14, Brian's Mail
list account via Groups.Io escribiu:
I'll ask the next question which build of windows 10 is it he is using? I'm sure Joseph will ask otherwise!
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Re: Registry fixing tool in nvda
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I should just add that as this patch runs at start up, it should be enough to fix it by merely running the snapshot. Otherwise you can run it from the menu if you have maybe uninstalled something while it was running, nvda that is.
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I think I'll quit before I confuse myself! Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 11:10 AM Subject: [nvda] Registry fixing tool in nvda I know a number of people here have had serious issues with browsers not reading word not working right with nvda and other associated problems.
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Re: Please Clarify NVDA 2018?
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I still regualarly see Windows 7 with registrations available on bona fide sites and vendors so I'd guess there is still some call for them out there.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 3:00 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Please Clarify NVDA 2018? Hi, NVDA 2017.4 and later requires Windows 7 SP1 or higher. As for getting Windows 10 in an affordable way, the “most affordable” way is no more unless that program comes back. Cheers, Joseph From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 7:59 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Please Clarify NVDA 2018? The latest versions don't support XP. They work with Windows 7 and higher. I don't know about Vista. If you are using XP, you have to use the last version that supports XP if you want the latest version you can use. That is, I believe, version 17.4. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: David Russell <mailto:david.sonofhashem@gmail.com> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 9:47 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> Subject: [nvda] Please Clarify NVDA 2018? Hello Group members, Two questions which "should" be simple enough to answer. - Does NVDA 2018 only work with computers and devices compatible with Windows Ten? - If NVDA works only with newer windows versions, is there an online resource that will distribute Windows Ten or other said product, and help install at a reduced cost to blind users? -- David Russell david.sonofhashem@gmail.com <mailto:david.sonofhashem@gmail.com> "chilah phanim" Make G-d smile!
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Re: Please Clarify NVDA 2018?
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
2017.3 is your last xp/vista version. its all down to routines available in the kernal of windows really.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 2:59 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Please Clarify NVDA 2018? The latest versions don't support XP. They work with Windows 7 and higher. I don't know about Vista. If you are using XP, you have to use the last version that supports XP if you want the latest version you can use. That is, I believe, version 17.4. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: David Russell Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 9:47 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Please Clarify NVDA 2018? Hello Group members, Two questions which "should" be simple enough to answer. - Does NVDA 2018 only work with computers and devices compatible with Windows Ten? - If NVDA works only with newer windows versions, is there an online resource that will distribute Windows Ten or other said product, and help install at a reduced cost to blind users? -- David Russell david.sonofhashem@gmail.com "chilah phanim" Make G-d smile!
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Re: Please Clarify NVDA 2018?
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
It works fine on Windows 7 sp1 here.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "David Russell" <david.sonofhashem@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 2:47 PM Subject: [nvda] Please Clarify NVDA 2018? Hello Group members,
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Re: problems with the mail app in nvda
Brice Mijares
TB is working fine for me.
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On 3/12/2018 8:21 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I just tried thunderbird and the same problem occurred so I'm staying with outlook.
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Re: problems with the mail app in nvda
Rosemarie Chavarria
I just tried thunderbird and the same problem occurred so I'm staying with outlook.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 8:20 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] problems with the mail app in nvda
Well if you try the mail app for with nvda it works very well butt when you close the mail app after reading a message you always have to restart nvda.
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From: Rosemarie Chavarria
I haven't tried the mail app with the latest version of NVDA.
On 3/12/2018 8:09 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
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Re: problems with the mail app in nvda
Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
Well if you try the mail app for with nvda it works very well butt when you close the mail app after reading a message you always have to restart nvda.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 11:11 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] problems with the mail app in nvda
I haven't tried the mail app with the latest version of NVDA.
On 3/12/2018 8:09 AM, Bobby Vinton wrote:
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Re: espeak and pronunciation of some words
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, Brian,
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I remember when the earlier versions of E-speak did a fine job in pronouncing word correctly. Rosemarie
On 3/12/2018 2:22 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Actually the original Espeak did a fine job. Too much tweaking recently has broken things that were good compromises before.
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Re: problems with the mail app in nvda
Rosemarie Chavarria
I haven't tried the mail app with the latest version of NVDA.
On 3/12/2018 8:09 AM, Bobby Vinton
wrote:
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problems with the mail app in nvda
Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
Hay when I am using the mail app with nvda nvda crashes every time I close the mail app after reading a message. This just started last week when I updated to nvda 2018.1. I was wondering if any else has this problem?
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Re: Please Clarify NVDA 2018?
Hi, NVDA 2017.4 and later requires Windows 7 SP1 or higher. As for getting Windows 10 in an affordable way, the “most affordable” way is no more unless that program comes back. Cheers, Joseph
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, March 12, 2018 7:59 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Please Clarify NVDA 2018?
The latest versions don't support XP. They work with Windows 7 and higher. I don't know about Vista. If you are using XP, you have to use the last version that supports XP if you want the latest version you can use. That is, I believe, version 17.4.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Hello Group members,
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Re: Please Clarify NVDA 2018?
Gene
The latest versions don't support XP. They
work with Windows 7 and higher. I don't know about Vista. If you are
using XP, you have to use the last version that supports XP if you want the
latest version you can use. That is, I believe, version 17.4.
Gene
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Two questions which "should" be simple enough to answer. - Does NVDA 2018 only work with computers and devices compatible with Windows Ten? - If NVDA works only with newer windows versions, is there an online resource that will distribute Windows Ten or other said product, and help install at a reduced cost to blind users? -- David Russell david.sonofhashem@... "chilah phanim" Make G-d smile!
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