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Re: Using Windows 10 calendar.

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Okay, apparently I do have them linked but had to do a manual sync. The only thing I am not getting at the moment is getting win calendar to sync everything over to Outlook (just went back to outlook and it now seems like crashing is only limited to viewing the Today window. As long as I only use other folders I can have many open and switch between them and cntrl+y to move to different folders).

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Windows 10 calendar.

its called calendar

You need to go to apps and accounts, link your ms and your google accounts to it to fully use it then you can use that as a sort of shell.




On 12/01/2018 4:53 p.m., John Isige wrote:
Anybody got anything on this? I swear I saw a post about it, unless
I'm confusing it with mail, a while back. At the time I didn't need a
calendar/reminder program, and now I do. I figure if Windows has got
something built in, I may as well try that first.




.


Re: Using Windows 10 calendar.

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Can you give more details? Under accounts it shows my gmail account for both mail and outlook. Under Microsoft it shows my ms account. What am I missing?

Cindy

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 4:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Windows 10 calendar.

its called calendar

You need to go to apps and accounts, link your ms and your google accounts to it to fully use it then you can use that as a sort of shell.




On 12/01/2018 4:53 p.m., John Isige wrote:
Anybody got anything on this? I swear I saw a post about it, unless
I'm confusing it with mail, a while back. At the time I didn't need a
calendar/reminder program, and now I do. I figure if Windows has got
something built in, I may as well try that first.




.


Re: Using Windows 10 calendar.

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Is it possible to sync with google calendar?

Cindy

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 12:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Windows 10 calendar.

 

Hi!

The Calendar app is very accessible that is built into windows 10.

Just open it, and press Alt+F4 to get into month view, and you can arrow left and right to forward or backward by one day, and up and down arrow to go back a week or ahead a week.

You can just enter on the day, and type your event in there, and press enter.

When you arrow to a day, it will tell you how many events there are for that day. Just start tabbing to each event, and you can press enter to open that event!

It is accessible with all screen readers.

Have a great one,

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Isige
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Windows 10 calendar.

 

Anybody got anything on this? I swear I saw a post about it, unless I'm

confusing it with mail, a while back. At the time I didn't need a

calendar/reminder program, and now I do. I figure if Windows has got

something built in, I may as well try that first.

 

 

 

 


Re: internet problem

Dave Grossoehme
 

Good Afternoon:  I've been gone on vacation and just saw this message, so, It's possible has already given this solution.  Has this party tried resetting the modem?
Insider Dave

On 12/31/2017 8:51 PM, MJW wrote:
Sounds more like a problem with your Internet connection (than an NVDA
glitch). Have you tried the usual tests to ensure you are connected
up properly? have you, for example, got another device such as a
smart phone or a tablet PC with which you could test your Internet
connection as well?
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
Best, Matt.


On 01/01/2018, anthony borg <anthonyborg001@...> wrote:
Hi list

I wonder if someone can help me please.

Evrytime I'm trying to access the internet it is telling me that surfer is
not found. Besides that it is mentioning the proxy and firewall. Which it
is
something that I don't know anything about it.

I hope that somebody would be able to explain to me what I should please.

Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: Unknown Content in Firefox

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi Tim


The other thing some people have done is removed fire fox 57 and gone back to the fire fox esr version which can be found at https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/organizations/

While fire fox is ironing out some little problems with the new quantom version some have gone back to this veersion. my self  I am using 58 more for testing.


If you want to uninstall nvda completely so there is no trace but you should not have to.


Is uninstall nvda as usual through what ever it is for add remove programs in the control panel.


When done then do the following this will remove your settings for nvda completely.


Press the windows key + letter r then type in %appdata% then press the enter key.
when the roaming folders part comes up locate the nvda folder and delete it out then close the window. I do not think you have to reboot but can be safe and do so.

Then it is a matter of reinstalling nvda in most cases it will fix most problems but i have only done it once or twice in say years since i have used nvda.
In my case because i am not sighted i would use narrator to do this step but if you are sighted  then there is no need to use narrator.

Gene nz

On 1/13/2018 2:58 AM, Tim Harshbarger wrote:

I had my colleague check to see if NVDA could access the menu bar in Firefox.  He was able to do that and NVDA read the menu items correctly. He also does not experience the problem when he uses Chrome or Internet Explorer 11. We also have other people using NVDA with Firefox 57 and they are not reporting problems. In fact, in a meeting with our team on Wednesday, I asked if anyone else was running into the problem and no one else was. My colleague did say that one of the developers he works with is having the same problem.

 

He has tried deleting and re-installing both NVDA 2017.4 and Firefox 57 and then re-installing them. He says he believes that removing NVDA didn’t remove everything because when he re-installed it immediately started using the software synthesizer he had previously switched to using. I don’t know if he deleted the Firefox settings when he removed and re-installed Firefox 57—I will mention that to him today.

 

Based on what everyone has said so far, it doesn’t sound like it should be the DLL’s.  However, I may suggest he try options related to the DLL’s (if deleting the Firefox settings doesn’t work) since nothing else has worked so far.

 

While he can still conduct testing using Chrome and IE, I really want to help him fix it so he can use Firefox—since NVDA and Firefox are the screen reader/browser combination we tend to use as the core of our accessibility testing.only

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

I'm not sure.  If the dlls are unregistered, does that cause the same problems in Chrome and Internet Explorer?  If so, and if these other browsers work properly, then there would be no point in registering the dll files and my guess about the cause of the problem is incorrect. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

Hi Tim

 

If it said some thing like unknown under the running programs part on the task bar when you went across the icons or it spoke nothing as you arrowed down the applications menu then i would guess some dlls have been unregistered.


You would also get unknown or pane in your browser or most browsers instead of edge on windows 10.

I do have a page on on my website that may help but do not think it is that bug.

When you uninstalled mozilla fire fox was there any bookmarks you really needed there?

If not some times a uninstall of mozilla fire fox in windows then doing the following will fix the problem.

Press the windows key + letter R then the run dialogue will come up. In it type the following %appdata% then press the enter key. Locate the folder for I am not sure what the foler would be called but on my machine it is called mozilla the folder will have to be deleted out then close the screen with the alt + f4 key. You have just deleted out the settings for mozilla fire fox. I am sure that is what it will be called on your machine.

Now reinstall mozilla fire fox and hopefully that would fix the problem.

I had some ting like that happen a couple of years back only on that program and doing the above fixed it.

If it sounds like the other one mentioned i can put in the steps to fix it if it is that which it does not sound like it is. Just let me know.

Gene nz
 

On 1/12/2018 2:16 AM, Tim Harshbarger wrote:

Hi,

 

I have a coworker who needs to be able to use NVDA and Firefox—we use it as part of our accessibility testing. Everyone else seems to be able to use NVDA 2017.3 (or 2017.4) with Firefox 57 with no problems.

 

However, every time he tries to use NVDA 2017.4 with Firefox 57, NVDA says the content of the page is “unknown”. He says it works ok in Chrome and IE 11. He was also having the problem with NVDA 2017.3.

 

So far, we have tried de-installing NVDA and re-installing it as well as de-installing Firefox and re-installing it. Neither action fixed the problem.

 

Has anyone else run into this problem and been able to resolve it?  If not, does anyone have any suggestions for what we might try next?

 

Thanks,

Tim

 

 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Unknown Content in Firefox

Adriani Botez
 

Does this issue occur when using NVDA in browse mode? Or only in focus mode? Or both?

Best
Adriani


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 12.01.2018 um 14:58 schrieb Tim Harshbarger <tim.harshbarger.cqwg@...>:

I had my colleague check to see if NVDA could access the menu bar in Firefox.  He was able to do that and NVDA read the menu items correctly. He also does not experience the problem when he uses Chrome or Internet Explorer 11. We also have other people using NVDA with Firefox 57 and they are not reporting problems. In fact, in a meeting with our team on Wednesday, I asked if anyone else was running into the problem and no one else was. My colleague did say that one of the developers he works with is having the same problem.

 

He has tried deleting and re-installing both NVDA 2017.4 and Firefox 57 and then re-installing them. He says he believes that removing NVDA didn’t remove everything because when he re-installed it immediately started using the software synthesizer he had previously switched to using. I don’t know if he deleted the Firefox settings when he removed and re-installed Firefox 57—I will mention that to him today.

 

Based on what everyone has said so far, it doesn’t sound like it should be the DLL’s.  However, I may suggest he try options related to the DLL’s (if deleting the Firefox settings doesn’t work) since nothing else has worked so far.

 

While he can still conduct testing using Chrome and IE, I really want to help him fix it so he can use Firefox—since NVDA and Firefox are the screen reader/browser combination we tend to use as the core of our accessibility testing.only

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

I'm not sure.  If the dlls are unregistered, does that cause the same problems in Chrome and Internet Explorer?  If so, and if these other browsers work properly, then there would be no point in registering the dll files and my guess about the cause of the problem is incorrect. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

Hi Tim

 

If it said some thing like unknown under the running programs part on the task bar when you went across the icons or it spoke nothing as you arrowed down the applications menu then i would guess some dlls have been unregistered.


You would also get unknown or pane in your browser or most browsers instead of edge on windows 10.

I do have a page on on my website that may help but do not think it is that bug.

When you uninstalled mozilla fire fox was there any bookmarks you really needed there?

If not some times a uninstall of mozilla fire fox in windows then doing the following will fix the problem.

Press the windows key + letter R then the run dialogue will come up. In it type the following %appdata% then press the enter key. Locate the folder for I am not sure what the foler would be called but on my machine it is called mozilla the folder will have to be deleted out then close the screen with the alt + f4 key. You have just deleted out the settings for mozilla fire fox. I am sure that is what it will be called on your machine.

Now reinstall mozilla fire fox and hopefully that would fix the problem.

I had some ting like that happen a couple of years back only on that program and doing the above fixed it.

If it sounds like the other one mentioned i can put in the steps to fix it if it is that which it does not sound like it is. Just let me know.

Gene nz
 

On 1/12/2018 2:16 AM, Tim Harshbarger wrote:

Hi,

 

I have a coworker who needs to be able to use NVDA and Firefox—we use it as part of our accessibility testing. Everyone else seems to be able to use NVDA 2017.3 (or 2017.4) with Firefox 57 with no problems.

 

However, every time he tries to use NVDA 2017.4 with Firefox 57, NVDA says the content of the page is “unknown”. He says it works ok in Chrome and IE 11. He was also having the problem with NVDA 2017.3.

 

So far, we have tried de-installing NVDA and re-installing it as well as de-installing Firefox and re-installing it. Neither action fixed the problem.

 

Has anyone else run into this problem and been able to resolve it?  If not, does anyone have any suggestions for what we might try next?

 

Thanks,

Tim

 

 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Unknown Content in Firefox

Adriani Botez
 

Tell him he should make sure he is loged in as an admin when removing and reinstalling it. I personally thimk the issue is being caused by a firefox addon or plugin. I am not having this problem on windows 7 sp1. It might be related to the graphic card and the graphic driver, although this is very unprobable because in that case he would have issues in other software as well.

Are there any antivirus restrictions which put firefox in a sandbox or something like that?

Best
Adriani


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 12.01.2018 um 14:58 schrieb Tim Harshbarger <tim.harshbarger.cqwg@...>:

I had my colleague check to see if NVDA could access the menu bar in Firefox.  He was able to do that and NVDA read the menu items correctly. He also does not experience the problem when he uses Chrome or Internet Explorer 11. We also have other people using NVDA with Firefox 57 and they are not reporting problems. In fact, in a meeting with our team on Wednesday, I asked if anyone else was running into the problem and no one else was. My colleague did say that one of the developers he works with is having the same problem.

 

He has tried deleting and re-installing both NVDA 2017.4 and Firefox 57 and then re-installing them. He says he believes that removing NVDA didn’t remove everything because when he re-installed it immediately started using the software synthesizer he had previously switched to using. I don’t know if he deleted the Firefox settings when he removed and re-installed Firefox 57—I will mention that to him today.

 

Based on what everyone has said so far, it doesn’t sound like it should be the DLL’s.  However, I may suggest he try options related to the DLL’s (if deleting the Firefox settings doesn’t work) since nothing else has worked so far.

 

While he can still conduct testing using Chrome and IE, I really want to help him fix it so he can use Firefox—since NVDA and Firefox are the screen reader/browser combination we tend to use as the core of our accessibility testing.only

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

I'm not sure.  If the dlls are unregistered, does that cause the same problems in Chrome and Internet Explorer?  If so, and if these other browsers work properly, then there would be no point in registering the dll files and my guess about the cause of the problem is incorrect. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

Hi Tim

 

If it said some thing like unknown under the running programs part on the task bar when you went across the icons or it spoke nothing as you arrowed down the applications menu then i would guess some dlls have been unregistered.


You would also get unknown or pane in your browser or most browsers instead of edge on windows 10.

I do have a page on on my website that may help but do not think it is that bug.

When you uninstalled mozilla fire fox was there any bookmarks you really needed there?

If not some times a uninstall of mozilla fire fox in windows then doing the following will fix the problem.

Press the windows key + letter R then the run dialogue will come up. In it type the following %appdata% then press the enter key. Locate the folder for I am not sure what the foler would be called but on my machine it is called mozilla the folder will have to be deleted out then close the screen with the alt + f4 key. You have just deleted out the settings for mozilla fire fox. I am sure that is what it will be called on your machine.

Now reinstall mozilla fire fox and hopefully that would fix the problem.

I had some ting like that happen a couple of years back only on that program and doing the above fixed it.

If it sounds like the other one mentioned i can put in the steps to fix it if it is that which it does not sound like it is. Just let me know.

Gene nz
 

On 1/12/2018 2:16 AM, Tim Harshbarger wrote:

Hi,

 

I have a coworker who needs to be able to use NVDA and Firefox—we use it as part of our accessibility testing. Everyone else seems to be able to use NVDA 2017.3 (or 2017.4) with Firefox 57 with no problems.

 

However, every time he tries to use NVDA 2017.4 with Firefox 57, NVDA says the content of the page is “unknown”. He says it works ok in Chrome and IE 11. He was also having the problem with NVDA 2017.3.

 

So far, we have tried de-installing NVDA and re-installing it as well as de-installing Firefox and re-installing it. Neither action fixed the problem.

 

Has anyone else run into this problem and been able to resolve it?  If not, does anyone have any suggestions for what we might try next?

 

Thanks,

Tim

 

 

 

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

 

hi brian i completely agree with you about problems of skype.
skype is getting more useless and problematic every day and i
uninstalled it completely and could not sign in anymore after
reinstallation.
i even could not use gw connect which i used in the past.
do you mean that microsoft changed the protocols and gw never works
again and even skype classic is never available in the future?
as you know, i realy hate updating forceable specially for updating
just for update like skype without any useful feature or
understandable and important change!
i did not see any program except skype and microsoft to force the
users for update!
hi shaun.
i completely agree that we should use our own desires without force.
i heard that one company make laptops and does not obey the rule of
just updating!
they releases drivers for different operating systems and dont forget
the old ones. the company is fujitsu.

On 1/10/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Well Firefox has been added to the firestick, but I believe Amazon has
agreed to sell chrome based devices now, so where is the problem. I'm
suspicious that Amazons system may well hijack Googles data collection so
their devices won't let google earn money.
Its all awfully silly and counter productive for all parties.
The only certain thing in the future is that broadband prices or
subscriptions to paid services will go up as the people who own the internet

need to be able to have an income to create more capacity and bandwidth and

renew old stuff. One way or the other somebody has to pay.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 9:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


Yeah and its getting worse, I just read into an article, aparently google

and amazon are having a fistfight.

So if it spreads we will have a virtual ww3 on our hands everyone is
chucking nukes about, no one knows why they are fighting anymore.




On 10/01/2018 7:45 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No its all a cunning plot. First Firefox now Skype.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharni-Lee Ward"
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 09, 2018 4:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


It really sucks for us especially and I am tempted to yell at somebody
until they listen to us. We can't use Skype the way it is now. I
thought
Accessibility was supposed to be getting better!


On 9/01/2018 8:33 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes I mentioned this in another thread, but of course that would mean
that much more effort would be required to write software and decide
what front ends to support etc.
To me, currently Skype and for that matter universal apps has lost the
plot in that they are not universal at all as writers can make them
all look completely different, when at least in classic windows one
knew you had a menu bar toolbars etc, and not this apparent throw
everything up in the air and where it drops is where it stays muddle
we have now.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss"
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, January 08, 2018 8:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


It does.

I have switched all my users to skype universal to keep the software
updated but to be honest skype classic is in the tablets section so
unless ms decides that windows tablets need to update to universal to
which they will probably do eventually then maybe.

At any rate even if skype does die, they will have to change the
minimal version on server to have it not even work and they only just
did that last year and that was for 7.2 and older, up to this point
you could probably still work with 6 or 5 or 4 or even 3 maybe not 2
but even so, who knows.

This new skype 8 will last till the end of win 8x at any rate.

It would be good if ms let us blinks use our own windows desktops,
shells and interfaces for their cores so we could use their stuff
without their junk.




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wrote:
I think the question has to be, does the old version of Skype, the
one used by windows 7, install OK on 10, and if it does why do we
need the new one?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee"
<@joslee>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 07, 2018 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!


Hi,
The universal Skype app is the Windows 10 version of Skype.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Ann
Byrne
Sent: Sunday, January 7, 2018 1:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!

What is the universal skype app???
At 03:03 PM 1/7/2018, you wrote:

I use Skype for WIN 10 also. Their is nothing wrong with it. Don't
knock it till you try it guys.

On 1/6/2018 10:50 PM, David Moore wrote:
I use the universal Skype app all the time.
Tabbing three or four times, is not that bad, along with some key
commands. I can find what I want quicker than I can with the
desktop
program. NVDA really works well with the Skype app. That is
awesome.
Have a great one, guys!
Sent from <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986>Mail for
Windows 10
From: <mailto:@joslee>Joseph Lee
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 10:12 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!
Â
Hi,
Skype universal app does have shortcut keys, such as Alt+1 to go
to
conversations, Alt+2 for contacts, Alt+3 for bots and so on).
Cheers,
Joseph
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-----Original Message-----
From:
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[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of JM Casey
Sent: Saturday, January 6, 2018 6:56 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!
Â
That's such a slugish and obnoxious way to navigate a programme,
really. Come on Microsoft.
Â
Â
Â
-----Original Message-----
From:
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: January 6, 2018 9:52 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete Disaster!
Â
In the new Windows app thing? Sure. In fact I think it's the only
way
to use it really.
Â
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On 1/6/2018 20:28, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
Â
Can you still tab around Skype like normal, though? I'm curious,
because I've never really used keyboard shortcuts. Just menus and
tabbing between options.
Â
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On 7/01/2018 1:24 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
Â
Awesome. It's gone. Thanks. I'll go install the classic version
here in a bit.
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On 1/6/2018 9:19 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
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OK, I didn't think it worked that way for universal apps.
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I'll give it a try.
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On 1/6/2018 8:58 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:
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The same way you uninstall any program:
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Press your Windows key and type remove  Arrow down to "Add
and
Remove Programs and press Enter  Arrow down to Skype in the
list of programs  Press your applications key and arrow
down to
remove and press Enter    On 1/6/2018 7:38 PM,
Christopher-Mark Gilland wrote:
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So then, I guess my next question would be how to
uninstall the
universal version within Windows 10. I guess Google's to the
rescue. LOL!
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On 1/6/2018 6:49 PM, iván Novegil wrote:
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Yes, installer downloaded from both links works with
windows10.
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Skype forces to use Universal app only in 8.x. I could
install
7.x (version downloadable from the two links sent) in Win10
without problems some weeks ago.
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Wow! Thank you for this link. Will this work with
Windows 10
as well? I'm not much a fan of the Universal app version of
Skype.
Don't get me wrong. It's O... Kayyyy, but, I definitely
don't
prefer it.
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I don't have all the issue with Skype that a lot of people
seem to have, in fact, I personally enjoy using it, so if I
can get that Universal version uninstalled in Windows 10,
and
get rid of the classic version, that would be fantastic!
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On 1/6/2018 11:39 AM, Marten Post Uiterweer wrote:
Rich,
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Remove your current skype installation and install the
skype
classic version from this link: If you do not remove the
old
installation, you will get two skype
versions after installation of the classic version.
<http://www.skype.com/go/getskype-full>http://www.skype.com/go/getsky
pe-full
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Regards, Marten
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I've never had it force an update on
windows 7. it always asks to which I say politely no thanks.
  I'm not sure how one gets the old version.
However there does seem to have been
a long history with Skype mucking it up on every update they do. I
hardly ever use it these days personally, but for many years the
tendency to hi jack the audio settings and not put them back
afterwards seemed rather draconian to me.
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Subject: [nvda] New Skype Installation a Complete
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I have used NVDA successfully with Skype for many years.
Suddenly, tonight, on my Windows 7 laptop, when I
entered
Skype, a new version was forcibly installed, something
like
Version 8.1.2, and it presented me with an interface
that I
could not comprehend with NVDA. None of the shortcut keys
that I previously used would work. I received a call
from a
friend right after this forced installation and could not
answer it, because the usual alt-PageUp key combo for
answering a call was useless, as were all other previous
shortcut keys. What is the solution to this problem. I
totally uninstalled Skype for now. Do we give up on Skype
as NVDA
users, or install a different version or perhaps some other chat
program?
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Can I use a restore point in windows 7 to protect firefox

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Can I use a restore point to protect Firefox

So rather than mess about with attempting to turn firefox 58 into a portable version or use it in another way, can I set a restore point while 52esr is working, install 58 and test it, then back out using the restore point to a copy of 52 again with no loss of add ons and other settings?
I'm attempting to see if the issue on windows 7 where 57 of Firefox only had the menus working and no screen content, indeed as described in another thread on this list.
I will have to go back as I need the navigational sounds, and as yet these are not available on Firefox Quantum. Hopefully someone at Mozilla will add in sound events which are configurable so we can tell when downloads are complete, when pages are still busy clicking bits and also when alerts appear, till then its got to be the old version, but as one of the few who apparently have this issue with 57, I feel I have a duty to test nvda with the latest version. If there was a simple way to be able to run both with no interactions then I would do so, but I'm not so sure this is in fact possible in Windows 7.

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Re: OK I give up, Github settings

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Hmm, that is what I thought I'd done before, Maybe its me. No no agreeing comments please.
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Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 9:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OK I give up, Github settings


Hello Brian,


When you're signed in GitHub, go to this URL address:

https://github.com/settings/notifications

Then find the check box labeled "Include your own updates" and check it if it is not checked already. I don't see a button for applying/saving the settings for this section, so I presume they get applied/saved automatically.

Hope this helps.


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Kostadin Kolev



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I was told you can set it so you do get your own. It is important for me to be able to hive off a thread from email if I never see my own half of it is missing.
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No you will never get your own. I don't worry about that as I check he websie. But I alwasy assume they have ben sent.


On Jan 11, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

All I get is everyone elses posts and messages, not my own. Of course if you use google as an email providor you get your own emails back by default from google.
No it seems to be defaulted to only send emails not from you.
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It should just work. It does for me, and I don't remember setting anything up almost 8 or 9 years ago when I started using github.


On Jan 10, 2018, at 3:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Somebody helpfully posted here a while ago some instructions on how to get githubs issue tracker to send out emails to the person who is sending either the originating post or and subsequent comments by them. I went to the place after logging in and set it to send me emails. its still not doing it on my account.
I go back in and cannot see what I set the last time.
I'd imagine if the system could be set so anyone who posts by email or puts in a comment on the site, who has an account for the list should automatically get the comment sent back as part of the list. That would seem common sense to me, but its not happening, so at the moment, after some months, maybe I accidentally find a comment to me saying can you tell us this or that. I post that via emai, but I've no idea if its actually on the site till I log in and go through the emails and posts.
If it came back in the list as it does here, I'd be more happy that I have actually done what was asked.
Anyone?
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Re: Unknown Content in Firefox

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I think the clincher will be to downdate to the esa version. As I said before, only two people on here running 57 on a windows 7 machine had exactly the problem you describe. Both were sorted by going to the esa version.
In my view there could be some other clash going on here. I do not know enough about how the new interface is used to understand what the trouble might be, but if a working system as fast as possible is what you want, try 52ESR.
I understood that Jaws did not work on the other machine on this version57 either. I've been sent a zip file of 58, so may set a restore point and attempt to try that, as Jamie who now works for Mozilla thinks the issue has been resolved in that version though has not exactly explained what it was.
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Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 1:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox


I had my colleague check to see if NVDA could access the menu bar in Firefox. He was able to do that and NVDA read the menu items correctly. He also does not experience the problem when he uses Chrome or Internet Explorer 11. We also have other people using NVDA with Firefox 57 and they are not reporting problems. In fact, in a meeting with our team on Wednesday, I asked if anyone else was running into the problem and no one else was. My colleague did say that one of the developers he works with is having the same problem.

He has tried deleting and re-installing both NVDA 2017.4 and Firefox 57 and then re-installing them. He says he believes that removing NVDA didn't remove everything because when he re-installed it immediately started using the software synthesizer he had previously switched to using. I don't know if he deleted the Firefox settings when he removed and re-installed Firefox 57-I will mention that to him today.

Based on what everyone has said so far, it doesn't sound like it should be the DLL's. However, I may suggest he try options related to the DLL's (if deleting the Firefox settings doesn't work) since nothing else has worked so far.

While he can still conduct testing using Chrome and IE, I really want to help him fix it so he can use Firefox-since NVDA and Firefox are the screen reader/browser combination we tend to use as the core of our accessibility testing.only

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

I'm not sure. If the dlls are unregistered, does that cause the same problems in Chrome and Internet Explorer? If so, and if these other browsers work properly, then there would be no point in registering the dll files and my guess about the cause of the problem is incorrect.

Gene
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox


Hi Tim



If it said some thing like unknown under the running programs part on the task bar when you went across the icons or it spoke nothing as you arrowed down the applications menu then i would guess some dlls have been unregistered.

You would also get unknown or pane in your browser or most browsers instead of edge on windows 10.

I do have a page on on my website that may help but do not think it is that bug.

When you uninstalled mozilla fire fox was there any bookmarks you really needed there?

If not some times a uninstall of mozilla fire fox in windows then doing the following will fix the problem.

Press the windows key + letter R then the run dialogue will come up. In it type the following %appdata% then press the enter key. Locate the folder for I am not sure what the foler would be called but on my machine it is called mozilla the folder will have to be deleted out then close the screen with the alt + f4 key. You have just deleted out the settings for mozilla fire fox. I am sure that is what it will be called on your machine.

Now reinstall mozilla fire fox and hopefully that would fix the problem.

I had some ting like that happen a couple of years back only on that program and doing the above fixed it.

If it sounds like the other one mentioned i can put in the steps to fix it if it is that which it does not sound like it is. Just let me know.

Gene nz

On 1/12/2018 2:16 AM, Tim Harshbarger wrote:
Hi,

I have a coworker who needs to be able to use NVDA and Firefox-we use it as part of our accessibility testing. Everyone else seems to be able to use NVDA 2017.3 (or 2017.4) with Firefox 57 with no problems.

However, every time he tries to use NVDA 2017.4 with Firefox 57, NVDA says the content of the page is "unknown". He says it works ok in Chrome and IE 11. He was also having the problem with NVDA 2017.3.

So far, we have tried de-installing NVDA and re-installing it as well as de-installing Firefox and re-installing it. Neither action fixed the problem.

Has anyone else run into this problem and been able to resolve it? If not, does anyone have any suggestions for what we might try next?

Thanks,
Tim



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Re: Unknown Content in Firefox

Gene
 

Yes, from what everyone says, it sounds as though its not the dll registration.  but this is the most simple thing to try and if it worked, a lot of time and effort would have been saved.  I'm not saying it's likely, I'm saying that when there is no clear solution, and when things are working properly on most machines running the same versions of programs, I think the most simple thing should be tried first, especially when that most simple thing is also very safe.  I would think the possibility of any problems associated with registering dll files would be extremely small, probably actually statistically safer than what has been tried so far.
 
I'm not a tech and a tech might disagree.  But that's how I see it.  At times, the best thing to do is what seems like an unlikely thing if it is simplest and safest.
 
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

I had my colleague check to see if NVDA could access the menu bar in Firefox.  He was able to do that and NVDA read the menu items correctly. He also does not experience the problem when he uses Chrome or Internet Explorer 11. We also have other people using NVDA with Firefox 57 and they are not reporting problems. In fact, in a meeting with our team on Wednesday, I asked if anyone else was running into the problem and no one else was. My colleague did say that one of the developers he works with is having the same problem.

 

He has tried deleting and re-installing both NVDA 2017.4 and Firefox 57 and then re-installing them. He says he believes that removing NVDA didn’t remove everything because when he re-installed it immediately started using the software synthesizer he had previously switched to using. I don’t know if he deleted the Firefox settings when he removed and re-installed Firefox 57—I will mention that to him today.

 

Based on what everyone has said so far, it doesn’t sound like it should be the DLL’s.  However, I may suggest he try options related to the DLL’s (if deleting the Firefox settings doesn’t work) since nothing else has worked so far.

 

While he can still conduct testing using Chrome and IE, I really want to help him fix it so he can use Firefox—since NVDA and Firefox are the screen reader/browser combination we tend to use as the core of our accessibility testing.only

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

I'm not sure.  If the dlls are unregistered, does that cause the same problems in Chrome and Internet Explorer?  If so, and if these other browsers work properly, then there would be no point in registering the dll files and my guess about the cause of the problem is incorrect. 

 

Gene

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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

Hi Tim

 

If it said some thing like unknown under the running programs part on the task bar when you went across the icons or it spoke nothing as you arrowed down the applications menu then i would guess some dlls have been unregistered.


You would also get unknown or pane in your browser or most browsers instead of edge on windows 10.

I do have a page on on my website that may help but do not think it is that bug.

When you uninstalled mozilla fire fox was there any bookmarks you really needed there?

If not some times a uninstall of mozilla fire fox in windows then doing the following will fix the problem.

Press the windows key + letter R then the run dialogue will come up. In it type the following %appdata% then press the enter key. Locate the folder for I am not sure what the foler would be called but on my machine it is called mozilla the folder will have to be deleted out then close the screen with the alt + f4 key. You have just deleted out the settings for mozilla fire fox. I am sure that is what it will be called on your machine.

Now reinstall mozilla fire fox and hopefully that would fix the problem.

I had some ting like that happen a couple of years back only on that program and doing the above fixed it.

If it sounds like the other one mentioned i can put in the steps to fix it if it is that which it does not sound like it is. Just let me know.

Gene nz
 

On 1/12/2018 2:16 AM, Tim Harshbarger wrote:

Hi,

 

I have a coworker who needs to be able to use NVDA and Firefox—we use it as part of our accessibility testing. Everyone else seems to be able to use NVDA 2017.3 (or 2017.4) with Firefox 57 with no problems.

 

However, every time he tries to use NVDA 2017.4 with Firefox 57, NVDA says the content of the page is “unknown”. He says it works ok in Chrome and IE 11. He was also having the problem with NVDA 2017.3.

 

So far, we have tried de-installing NVDA and re-installing it as well as de-installing Firefox and re-installing it. Neither action fixed the problem.

 

Has anyone else run into this problem and been able to resolve it?  If not, does anyone have any suggestions for what we might try next?

 

Thanks,

Tim

 

 

 

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Re: Unknown Content in Firefox

Tim Harshbarger
 

I had my colleague check to see if NVDA could access the menu bar in Firefox.  He was able to do that and NVDA read the menu items correctly. He also does not experience the problem when he uses Chrome or Internet Explorer 11. We also have other people using NVDA with Firefox 57 and they are not reporting problems. In fact, in a meeting with our team on Wednesday, I asked if anyone else was running into the problem and no one else was. My colleague did say that one of the developers he works with is having the same problem.

 

He has tried deleting and re-installing both NVDA 2017.4 and Firefox 57 and then re-installing them. He says he believes that removing NVDA didn’t remove everything because when he re-installed it immediately started using the software synthesizer he had previously switched to using. I don’t know if he deleted the Firefox settings when he removed and re-installed Firefox 57—I will mention that to him today.

 

Based on what everyone has said so far, it doesn’t sound like it should be the DLL’s.  However, I may suggest he try options related to the DLL’s (if deleting the Firefox settings doesn’t work) since nothing else has worked so far.

 

While he can still conduct testing using Chrome and IE, I really want to help him fix it so he can use Firefox—since NVDA and Firefox are the screen reader/browser combination we tend to use as the core of our accessibility testing.only

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

I'm not sure.  If the dlls are unregistered, does that cause the same problems in Chrome and Internet Explorer?  If so, and if these other browsers work properly, then there would be no point in registering the dll files and my guess about the cause of the problem is incorrect. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 3:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

 

Hi Tim

 

If it said some thing like unknown under the running programs part on the task bar when you went across the icons or it spoke nothing as you arrowed down the applications menu then i would guess some dlls have been unregistered.


You would also get unknown or pane in your browser or most browsers instead of edge on windows 10.

I do have a page on on my website that may help but do not think it is that bug.

When you uninstalled mozilla fire fox was there any bookmarks you really needed there?

If not some times a uninstall of mozilla fire fox in windows then doing the following will fix the problem.

Press the windows key + letter R then the run dialogue will come up. In it type the following %appdata% then press the enter key. Locate the folder for I am not sure what the foler would be called but on my machine it is called mozilla the folder will have to be deleted out then close the screen with the alt + f4 key. You have just deleted out the settings for mozilla fire fox. I am sure that is what it will be called on your machine.

Now reinstall mozilla fire fox and hopefully that would fix the problem.

I had some ting like that happen a couple of years back only on that program and doing the above fixed it.

If it sounds like the other one mentioned i can put in the steps to fix it if it is that which it does not sound like it is. Just let me know.

Gene nz
 

On 1/12/2018 2:16 AM, Tim Harshbarger wrote:

Hi,

 

I have a coworker who needs to be able to use NVDA and Firefox—we use it as part of our accessibility testing. Everyone else seems to be able to use NVDA 2017.3 (or 2017.4) with Firefox 57 with no problems.

 

However, every time he tries to use NVDA 2017.4 with Firefox 57, NVDA says the content of the page is “unknown”. He says it works ok in Chrome and IE 11. He was also having the problem with NVDA 2017.3.

 

So far, we have tried de-installing NVDA and re-installing it as well as de-installing Firefox and re-installing it. Neither action fixed the problem.

 

Has anyone else run into this problem and been able to resolve it?  If not, does anyone have any suggestions for what we might try next?

 

Thanks,

Tim

 

 

 

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The error I had indicated is solved!

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Re: New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

mk360
 

NVDA is GPL 2, not 3. The add-on might not be free, unless you use parts of the NVDA code itself, and in that case you can release these portions to the public.

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 6:01 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
But there in lies the problem.

We are opensource.

The addons by nature usually need to be free.

In house custom made software is for the company, and unless they do it themselves, it is unlikely they will let someone just get access to their secret software or code certainly even if they do that person would have an aggreement.

Suppose some testers need to test it, they can't.

I am not sure myself where this does it.

There are no rules saying you can't but who knows.



On 11/01/2018 9:45 p.m., Damien Garwood wrote:
Hi Shaun,
NVAccess itself is a registered charity. So while not a business, companies can be more or less be assured of its authenticity. What's more, they do paid support packages, and as they develop and update NVDA itself, I am sure, with appropriate funding, either from donations or as a paid service, they will be able to hire someone to script the necessary components, or else make it themselves.
As for licencing: I have actually often wondered that myself. Licences are far too legalese for me to understand the entire ins and outs, but my understanding is that the GPL forces you to make your software open source, meaning that a paid addon isn't an option unless the addon itself accesses a separate closed-source module. The GPL itself states that you can charge if you wish, but that makes no sense - if you charge someone for a piece of software, which has to be open source, then there is no copy-protection against that. I guess it means for instance if you are hired to make something which is GPL-compatible.
As it is, I don't mind. I choose NVDA over JAWS by principle, due to the fact that, not only does JAWS costs over thirty times more than a cheap monitor, but it also charges for upgrades...
I could rant on about JAWS all day - I've already had to remove four lines of ranting waffle. Bottom line is, NVDA could be closed-source and charged at £30, and I'd gladly get it. I'm not one of these "Everything has to be free!" people, but I do believe we should be able to get like for like in the field of accessibility. A screen reader gives information about the screen, so simple and idealistic logic should dictate that it should cost no more than a screen. I'm so grateful that NVDA has set a new precedence by going a few steps further and making it free and open-source, and I sincerely hope my donations over the years have proved that, at least to a degree.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message----- From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 1:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

The issue is that you need to get someone that writes scripts.

He/she needs to be exposed to the program in question and there is the
issue.

I am not sure if anyone of us have some sort of professional
qualification to write scripts for businesses.

We would need to see the software.

Business x will not give some little hacker on the big internet access
to their software or computer or anything without some assurance.

They will however give access to someone that handles jaws because jaws
is the way and has been for a while and has established writers.

We do ofcause have this for ourselves, but we are not a business, we are
an opensource organisation which just so happen to be able to handle
win10 and office as well as the os itself.

I doubt we could even handle custom software.

And what happens if something goes wrong, I doubt we could last any
sueing or anything.

This is new teritory, and I don't understand it at all.

Do we want to take the next step, vfo is a large established group, it
won't be long till someone suggests jaws.

I am not saying lie down and die but do we even have a strategy to
handle this.

TO the user that said most things are java based, maybe thats what we
must focus on next then.




On 11/01/2018 2:07 p.m., Norman wrote:
Hi.

The problem here is that i don't know who to ask to build a custom addon even if i want to.

I really wish for some field labeling in a program i use a lot but who does this kind of thing?

I know almost nothing about python development and even less about the nvda development structure so getting me to learn it with the limited time i have these days is pointless.


thanks.



On 1/10/2018 4:37 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
I usually don't respond like the one you read below, but I think it must be said:
All I can say is, "this is 2010's." I personally WILL NOT tolerate the kinds of sentiment expressed below. Statements such as, "if you want customized and paid scripts, use JAWS", is, to me, outright unacceptable. I might add that statements like the one I paraphrased is hindrance, not hope, and it builds barriers instead of opening the doors for many. I think one of the reasons why there's really no professional uptake for NVDA (for now) is that we are too comfortable with our comfort zones, thus some may not show willingness to write professional add-ons, but that's changing.
Thus I would like to give my full support to an angel who can and is willing to write and share a custom NVDA add-on for the app in question.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Well you probably should use jaws, people in companies use jaws for that and buy jaws scripts.

Nvda is opensource, I am not sure if anyone would do a payed addon well due to the opensource nature I don't even know if the licence terms allow for someone to make a payed addon for a single user.

True we have synths but even so.




On 10/01/2018 11:19 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I think at the moment if this is an in house piece of software its
going to be hard to do it, as really the employer needs to contact
somebody and pay for it to be done I'd suggest. In a small market like
one company, it is I think legitimate to expect it to be paid for as
usage is unlikely to be very large.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniele Casarola"
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?


Hi,
I'm Daniele from Italy.

I need a new add-on for NVDA to make my job accessible. I'm not a
programmer and I don't know how to do.

I've tried to send an email to the man NVDA website, but I didn't
receive answer.

Do you know somebody offering this kind of service?

Thank you very much.

Daniele.




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Re: New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Adriani Botez
 

A custom script writer could charge something, I agree. But a screen reader itself should be financed by sponsoring and donations. Not by obligatory payments from users.


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 12.01.2018 um 10:09 schrieb Shaun Everiss <@smeveriss>:

And how does it work when screen reader x doesn't cost.

The tools to code don't cost, and if its an inhouse program the only thing one can charge is time and level of difficulty.

But after that in house script x can not be released outside the company, I am not sure about special scripts mixed in with the opensource thing, but if its never released then I guess it technically doesn't matter there are loads of scripts on repos not linked to nvda community main archive after all.




On 12/01/2018 12:12 a.m., Adriani Botez wrote:
Your statement (taken word by word) can cause missunderstandings. Why should
I pay twice for a screen, only because I need a screen reader?


Best
Adriani

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Adriani
Botez
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2018 12:10
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Hey Damien,

I think you wanted to say that a screen reader should not cause any costs at
all except the costs of the screen itself. Right?

Best
Adriani


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Damien
Garwood
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2018 11:15
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Hi,
Are you kidding me! You can seriously get thousands of dollar screens? That
is crazy, and something I've never heard of.
No, I'm talking about bog standard screens, that generally sighted people
would buy with a computer without even thinking.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Damien Garwood <damien@...> wrote:
A screen reader gives information about the screen, so simple and
idealistic logic should dictate that it should cost no more than a
screen.
Well, but what screen. Some screens are thousands of dollars, lol.















Re: Online Metronome accessible via NVDA

Chris Mullins
 

Hi           

I can’t get any of these to work.  I have to use firefox because of flash and it says flash isn’t installed but I know it is, so there is something wrong somewhere.  Similarly with the webmetronome which was also recommended.  Anyone know of non-flash based metronomes?

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of brandon
Sent: 10 January 2018 22:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Online Metronome accessible via NVDA

 

try this

 

http://a.bestmetronome.com/

 

On 1/10/2018 1:43 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

Does anyone know of a web site with an NVDA accessible metronome, preferably with a drum beat?

 

Cheers

Chris

 


Re: Using Windows 10 calendar.

 

its called calendar

You need to go to apps and accounts, link your ms and your google accounts to it to fully use it then you can use that as a sort of shell.

On 12/01/2018 4:53 p.m., John Isige wrote:
Anybody got anything on this? I swear I saw a post about it, unless I'm confusing it with mail, a while back. At the time I didn't need a calendar/reminder program, and now I do. I figure if Windows has got something built in, I may as well try that first.



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Re: trouble with signing in on windows 10

 

Well usually its due to a power setting, you can set this to not go to sleep or not require a password to sign in however if its a family computer then there may be some security reasons you don't want this.

If its for admin purposes make a power plan that has everything set how you want it including fast startup, and switch to it when you go on there.

Then switch it back.

On my friend's gaming system all users have both a gaming graphics profile, a fan profile and such in their user accounts, and will switch to all of these, when they log out the system goes to normal till someone logs in and switchs over again.

On 12/01/2018 2:53 p.m., marvin kotler wrote:
Good evening list; first, running the latest nvda and windows 10 1709. Was given this computer by a family member; it is a desktop. The trouble I am having is when I sign into windows using a pin or four digits, that goes all right, but if I let the computer sit a few minutes, it returns back to default lock screen and I have to sign in again. If anyone has any advice on how I can fix things so the computer keeps on running without me having to sign in again, I would like to know how to do this; thanks.
Marv