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Re: message in email

Monte Single
 

O K.

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Sent: April-08-18 4:42 AM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] message in email

My guess then is that at some point during the read the focus momentarily is
dragged away by some updated part of the screen. You could try maximising
the reading window and see if that stops.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@sasktel.net>
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Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] message in email


Yes, it happens, not often, when I press insert and down arrow.

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Brian's
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Sent: April-08-18 2:29 AM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] message in email

Is this while doing a say all?
I wonder if its seeing a change somewhere on screen and jumping to it?
Brian, ie the focus

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 4:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] message in email


Hi y'all,



I'm using current version ov nvda with win 7 and outlook 2013,

Sometimes, while hearing a message, nvda says message and stops reading.

Ideas, suggestions, solutions?



Thanks,

Monte








Re: Using combo boxes in Chrome.

Jonathan COHN
 

I have heard some rumblings on a web design list that Chrome v65 is not properly relaying some ARIA information to screen readers. This is a  issue that will be corrected in the next version of Chrome and is not a problem in the previous version..


Firefox ad blocker and nvda and filehippo

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Right the folk at File hippo have stopped me using the update checker unless i turn off the ad blocker by making the data appear like an advert so you don't see it if its switched on. So at the moment I need to.
1 invoke the update check
2 when the page has loaded, go to add ons and turn off ublock.
3 come back to the results page and refresh it

Then do this in reverse to be able to browse without claptrap annoying me.

I notice there is a white list function in the ublock add on, but using nvda, I cannot seem to get it to work on the file hippo page I need to turn it off for. Am I missing something?

You do options, dashboard settings and get a list and at the bottom add either the address or part of it from the page you want, then hit the button to add it. The button is above the field but that is just their design.
so what am I missing? Is nvda not letting me see some vital bit?
Brian

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Re: message in email

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My guess then is that at some point during the read the focus momentarily is dragged away by some updated part of the screen. You could try maximising the reading window and see if that stops.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@sasktel.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] message in email


Yes, it happens, not often, when I press insert and down arrow.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: April-08-18 2:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] message in email

Is this while doing a say all?
I wonder if its seeing a change somewhere on screen and jumping to it?
Brian, ie the focus

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@sasktel.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 4:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] message in email


Hi y'all,



I'm using current version ov nvda with win 7 and outlook 2013,

Sometimes, while hearing a message, nvda says message and stops reading.

Ideas, suggestions, solutions?



Thanks,

Monte







Re: For Orhan: Soulseek I Use Now On Send Space

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I do hate people who use -= alternatively in a line. If it was just a dash or just a =, then the screenreader just says 27 =, but with them alternatively it rabbits on for an age.
grin.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ron Canazzi" <aa2vm@roadrunner.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 11:30 AM
Subject: [nvda] For Orhan: Soulseek I Use Now On Send Space


Hi Group,

I tried sending this off list to Orhan, but the e-mail address I extracted from his outgoing mail bounced it, so here it is for him and anyone else on Send Space.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/cvkbrf

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For Orhan: Soulseek I Use Now On Send Space

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,

I tried sending this off list to Orhan, but the e-mail address I extracted from his outgoing mail bounced it, so here it is for him and anyone else on Send Space.

https://www.sendspace.com/file/cvkbrf

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I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: message in email

Monte Single
 

Yes, it happens, not often, when I press insert and down arrow.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: April-08-18 2:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] message in email

Is this while doing a say all?
I wonder if its seeing a change somewhere on screen and jumping to it?
Brian, ie the focus

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@sasktel.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 4:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] message in email


Hi y'all,



I'm using current version ov nvda with win 7 and outlook 2013,

Sometimes, while hearing a message, nvda says message and stops reading.

Ideas, suggestions, solutions?



Thanks,

Monte




Re: Using combo boxes in Chrome.

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That is because you are changing mode with the nvda/space command, not directly altering it on a live page, so to speak.
What I never could work out though was why different fiddles need to be done in different browsers on the same pages.
That one is not unique in this.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Isige" <gwynn@tds.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 11:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using combo boxes in Chrome.


Thanks! NVDA-space did the trick, weird that it didn't work with enter. So hitting NVDA-space and then alt-down to expand let's you arrow through it and hit enter on whatever you want, but replacing NVDA-space with enter doesn't seem to let you, at least it didn't work for me. Enter takes it into focus, it at least makes the sound for it, but then as soon as you do anything with the arrows, it changes. I'll bet this trick will work for stuff like Amazon's combo boxes too.


On 4/7/2018 16:36, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

It works the same in chrome and firefox for me

All i did was to hit C to find the combo boxes then NVDA+space to go into focus mode then alt+down arrow to expand and and up/down arrow for your choice and hit enter

*From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent: *07 April 2018 22:11
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Using combo boxes in Chrome.

Right. But in Chrome, I can't seem to change it. In Firefox, if I expand

it with alt-down arrow, I get a list I can arrow through, and then when

I tab out, it picks my selection. For example, if I pick "content" in

Firefox and hit enter and then alt-down to expand, I can arrow to

"album" and hit tab, and it will filter for albums. In Chrome, that

doesn't work, it just changes something and reloads the page, often

getting rid of the search results entirely. The audio player doesn't

seem to work for me in Firefox, or I'd just use that and be done with it.

On 4/7/2018 15:36, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

its a filter, it refreshes to reflect your choice
*From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent: *07 April 2018 21:23
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Using combo boxes in Chrome.
Hey all. So far as I know I'm on latest NVDA and latest Chrome. I'm
trying to use the combo boxes on the following site.
http://www.folkways.si.edu/search?query=harmonica
If I hit enter on one, say "content", and use the arrows, it reloads the
page. If I expand it, it reloads the page. If I arrow when it's
expanded, it reloads the page. Anybody know of a fix for this? Right now
they're unusable, and I have a feeling Chrome does this for other sites
too, though I could be wrong about that. I haven't tried Firefox because
I don't think the audio player works for me in Firefox, although I
finally got it working in Chrome, so I'll go check that now, in case it
works any better.


Re: message in email

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Is this while doing a say all?
I wonder if its seeing a change somewhere on screen and jumping to it?
Brian, ie the focus

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@sasktel.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 4:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] message in email


Hi y'all,
I'm using current version ov nvda with win 7 and outlook 2013,
Sometimes, while hearing a message, nvda says message and stops reading.
Ideas, suggestions, solutions?
Thanks,
Monte


Re: What version of windows do councils use

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

No but look what happened to xp. I see 7 as a bit of an XP myself.
8.1 was presumably updated to before they realised the way the cookie was going to crumble to preserve software for a time at least.
Interestingly, I also notice the fact that Google drive which had been giving dire warnings to update to the latest backk up and restore thing has now gone back and allowed the old version to still work again, even on XP!


Anyway, my main thrust of what I was saying was that any blind employee or anyone who has to work as a contractor on their system will need to be able to deal with the virtual desktop and google apps it seems.
I'm not terribly crazy about people like Councils who have a lot of data on us, using Google stuff for their in house processes, given the track record recently of big data.
I seem to hear recently that big charities like RNNIB have had their on line trading systems hacked, and one cannot help but wonder if there really is any defence to all this, so striving to make windows unhackable is a bit like trying to make us immortal!

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 08, 2018 6:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] What version of windows do councils use


To be honest, windows 10 will be the way things go.

However I could see the disruptive nature of it set to normal mode.

If I were a business, I'd simply stop any feature updates, and delay for a year, ofcause if you are a business and use enterprise you probably can just not update at all and put it for a time the admin wants.

win7 and 8 will not last for ever.




On 8/04/2018 12:04 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I was asking our local council in case I had to go in to sort something out, and it seems they are not interested in 10, due to its major disruptive updating. Instead the machines that run windows directly use 8.1x and most of the offices use virtual desktops and edit using google resources rather than Microsoft Office, though they do have a licence.

Not sure what they mean by virtual in this context t as this enquiry was about access for the blind to voting info for an upcoming election.


Interesting. Nobody knows whether any screenreader is in use, but I know their libraries used to have Supernova on them.
I doubt under the current cost restraints that anyone still has that however.
Brian

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Re: nvda 2018.1 and soulseek ns?

Orhan Deniz <orhan.deniz63@...>
 

I am using slsk157NS13E.exe

I will see if i have a copy of 157ns-13-C. I really doubt that there is something in E and not C that is causing this but you never know.

Orhan.

On 08/04/2018 06:09, Ron Canazzi wrote:
I am using Windows 10 latest update with NVDA 2018.1.1 and I have seen no change since Windows XP when using Soulseek.
Here is the executable name of the version of Soulseek I am using.
slsk157NS13c.exe
On 4/7/2018 9:51 PM, Orhan Deniz via Groups.Io wrote:
Dude I've used soulseek for over 10 years.

This seems to be a windows 10 specific issue. I will use qt and ns together until a better workaround is found.

On 08/04/2018 00:53, Ron Canazzi wrote:
You also must realize that when browsing a user's files, the interface is a tree view.  If you hear the word collapsed in front of a folder name, you must use the right arrow key to open that tree and go below in the sub structure. You must always make sure that you are in object navigation and if you do not get a download option in your right click menu, you have probably been moved out of object navigation into screen review.  This can happen if you alt + tab away from Soulseek and then back.



On 4/7/2018 12:11 PM, Orhan Deniz via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Ron,
This issue only occurs when browsing a users files. so say for instance: there is a folder 1995, with nested folders below it, and the third one is called Folder C, I can move the navigator object to it, but as soon as i right click, it selects 1995 instead.

Orhan.
On 07/04/2018 08:04, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Orhan,


I am not having this issue s such.  From Windows 7 on up, I always had to make sure that when in a list using Soulseek, I had to be sure to be in object navigation mode and then to use the right mouse button click when in a list of transfers and in a list of search results, I use the context menu key.  Just why this is, I do not know but it works this way for years.





On 4/6/2018 5:02 PM, Orhan Deniz via Groups.Io wrote:
On windows 10, using soulseek ns 157, when moving the focus to the current navigator object, in a users list of folders, slsk focuses on the wrong folder. i have no other issues with ns and really don't want to upgrade to qt. Anyone else experienced this and is it an nvda or windows 10 issue? works fine on win 7.

Best, O.








Re: What version of windows do councils use

 

To be honest, windows 10 will be the way things go.

However I could see the disruptive nature of it set to normal mode.

If I were a business, I'd simply stop any feature updates, and delay for a year, ofcause if you are a business and use enterprise you probably can just not update at all and put it for a time the admin wants.

win7 and 8 will not last for ever.

On 8/04/2018 12:04 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I was asking our local council in case I had to go in to sort something out, and it seems they are not interested in 10, due to its major disruptive updating. Instead the machines that run windows directly use 8.1x and most of the offices use virtual desktops and edit using google resources rather than Microsoft Office, though they do have a licence.

Not sure what they mean by virtual in this context t as this enquiry was about access for the blind to voting info for an upcoming election.


Interesting. Nobody knows whether any screenreader is in use, but I know their libraries used to have Supernova on them.
I doubt under the current  cost restraints that anyone still has that however.
Brian

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Re: nvda 2018.1 and soulseek ns?

Ron Canazzi
 

I am using Windows 10 latest update with NVDA 2018.1.1 and I have seen no change since Windows XP when using Soulseek.


Here is the executable name of the version of Soulseek I am using.

slsk157NS13c.exe

On 4/7/2018 9:51 PM, Orhan Deniz via Groups.Io wrote:
Dude I've used soulseek for over 10 years.

This seems to be a windows 10 specific issue. I will use qt and ns together until a better workaround is found.

On 08/04/2018 00:53, Ron Canazzi wrote:
You also must realize that when browsing a user's files, the interface is a tree view.  If you hear the word collapsed in front of a folder name, you must use the right arrow key to open that tree and go below in the sub structure. You must always make sure that you are in object navigation and if you do not get a download option in your right click menu, you have probably been moved out of object navigation into screen review.  This can happen if you alt + tab away from Soulseek and then back.



On 4/7/2018 12:11 PM, Orhan Deniz via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Ron,
This issue only occurs when browsing a users files. so say for instance: there is a folder 1995, with nested folders below it, and the third one is called Folder C, I can move the navigator object to it, but as soon as i right click, it selects 1995 instead.

Orhan.
On 07/04/2018 08:04, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Orhan,


I am not having this issue s such.  From Windows 7 on up, I always had to make sure that when in a list using Soulseek, I had to be sure to be in object navigation mode and then to use the right mouse button click when in a list of transfers and in a list of search results, I use the context menu key.  Just why this is, I do not know but it works this way for years.





On 4/6/2018 5:02 PM, Orhan Deniz via Groups.Io wrote:
On windows 10, using soulseek ns 157, when moving the focus to the current navigator object, in a users list of folders, slsk focuses on the wrong folder. i have no other issues with ns and really don't want to upgrade to qt. Anyone else experienced this and is it an nvda or windows 10 issue? works fine on win 7.

Best, O.






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Re: Which free office package is more accessible libre office or open office with nvda?

 

They won't do anything if removed I have to remove them to update them on a remote system.

On 7/04/2018 10:01 p.m., Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi guys


I have just been asked this question as mentioned in the subject line. I
do not use these packages at all They also want to know if the package
is uninstalled will it cause any problems like she got when she
uninstalled a copy of microsoft office  or was it another word
processing program.

not sure which program  it was.

it would say unknown in the running applications area, the context menu
and a few other places.

she does not want it to happen again if she decides to try either of
them out.

By the way have they fixed the problem where when you went to do say all
to read the document it would stop after each paragraph.


I know they are not as polished as office with browse mode etc but are
they still very usable.


I think she just wants it for the basics? by the way will it report
formatting so you maybe know the size of the text etc



any help would be great.


Gene nz






Re: NVDA 2018.1 freezes when editing an Excel worksheet

Pranav Lal
 

Hi Suzy,

 

Go Excel’s advanced options and disable hardware acceleration. This may help.

 

Pranav


Re: NVDA still say unknown

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I think I figured out what was going on. I hit control NVDA key f-1 and found out that team viewer must have gotten in the way. Now I'm not hearing unknown anymore. I'll know what to do if it happens next time but I think it's solved now.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: Saturday, April 7, 2018 1:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still say unknown

 

I get that unknown thing as well, but I just alt tab and it's gone. I haven't come to the list with it, though, because it's not causing me any problems, and it does go away once I alt tab, and when I maximize the window, it either shows the desktop or another program I'm in, so I don't think it's really anything to worry about. I'd only worry if it was saying "Unknown," within a program and being completely disruptive to whatever I'm doing. It's not doing that, though, so it really doesn't worry me. It's good to know, however, that others are seeing it; good to know it's not just my computer being weird or something.

Annette

On 4/6/2018 3:51 PM, Gene wrote:

In my experience, exiting programs often doesn't take you to the desktop.  Others may wish to comment.  it's possible that, for somereason, a window is present that isn't visible to the screen-reader.  This window may be the result of a program running in the background.  Have you installed any programs or updated anything around the time the problem started?  Unless you think you have malware or have some other problem, this may well be just a change caused by something, a new program, some sort of update, something that means nothing other than that maybe a window is being displayed that makes you not return to the desktop as often as you expect. 

 

You may be hearing unknown because a window, not recognized by NVDA is getting focus.  You may get the answer most easily by having a sighted person see what's on screen when you close a program. 

 

While this may indicate a problem such as malware, it may indicate nothing except a change in something that affects screen-readers but doesn't affect anything from a sighted users' perspective. 

 

Others may have other comments and suggestions. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 3:39 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still say unknown

 

I'm talking about exiting programs. I know how to get to the desktop with alt f-4 or windows D but in the past when I've exited programs, I was taken back to the desktop.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 1:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still say unknown

 

What are you referring to?  You said alt f4 to get to the desktop.  Alt f4 closes programs.  It doesn't take you to the desktop.  It often leaves you nowhere.  You have to use the usual Windows key d and Windows key m to move to the desktop.  What exactly is the problem?  You said you hear unknown.  What do you do after that and what happens?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 3:29 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still say unknown

 

Hi, Gene,

 

I'm trying narrator right now. I'll see what happens when I hit alt f-4 to get to the desktop.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 1:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still say unknown

 

Yesterday, your message appeared to indicate that you can carry out the action by issuing the command twice, as in issuing alt f4 twice.  Is that correct? 

 

Have you determined if this is an NVDA problem?  Have you tried the same commands in the same contexts using Narrator or JAWS?  Is there a need to issue them twice?  Also, have you tried an earlier version of NVDA that used to work correctly?  What happens? 

 

Just having to issue a command twice is a very easy work around.  If that's all that is necessary, this may be one of those small problems where there is a very easy work around and the time and effort involved to try to solve them isn't worth expending.  Not every problem needs to be solved.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 1:58 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still say unknown

 

Hi, Gene,

 

I tried waiting for 10 seconds and nothing happened. I don't know what else to try.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, April 6, 2018 11:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA still say unknown

 

Is this a problem that means anything or is it just something being spoken that means nothing?  When you hear unknown, if you just do nothing for a number of seconds, does what you expect to happen happen? 

 

NVDA often says unknown and then, when you wait for a brief time, whatever is supposed to happen happens.  Have you tested to see what happens?  When you hear unknown, wait ten seconds to see if whatever is supposed to happen happens.  Yesterday, you said something about having to issue a program close command twice.  What we don't know is if the second time is doing anything.  If you just wait many seconds and don't do anything, you may find that what you expect to happen happens.  Part of being a good blind computer user is to know what matters and what doesn't.  So far, we don't know if this matters or is just irrelevant speech.

 

There may be nothing to be done at this time except to ignore it. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, April 06, 2018 1:05 PM

Subject: [nvda] NVDA still say unknown

 

Hi, everyone,

 

I just updated to the latest add-on but that didn't help at all. I don't know what else to try. Any suggestions will be very much appreciated.

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

 


Re: nvda 2018.1 and soulseek ns?

Orhan Deniz <orhan.deniz63@...>
 

Dude I've used soulseek for over 10 years.

This seems to be a windows 10 specific issue. I will use qt and ns together until a better workaround is found.

On 08/04/2018 00:53, Ron Canazzi wrote:
You also must realize that when browsing a user's files, the interface is a tree view.  If you hear the word collapsed in front of a folder name, you must use the right arrow key to open that tree and go below in the sub structure.  You must always make sure that you are in object navigation and if you do not get a download option in your right click menu, you have probably been moved out of object navigation into screen review.  This can happen if you alt + tab away from Soulseek and then back.
On 4/7/2018 12:11 PM, Orhan Deniz via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Ron,
This issue only occurs when browsing a users files. so say for instance: there is a folder 1995, with nested folders below it, and the third one is called Folder C, I can move the navigator object to it, but as soon as i right click, it selects 1995 instead.

Orhan.
On 07/04/2018 08:04, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Orhan,


I am not having this issue s such.  From Windows 7 on up, I always had to make sure that when in a list using Soulseek, I had to be sure to be in object navigation mode and then to use the right mouse button click when in a list of transfers and in a list of search results, I use the context menu key.  Just why this is, I do not know but it works this way for years.





On 4/6/2018 5:02 PM, Orhan Deniz via Groups.Io wrote:
On windows 10, using soulseek ns 157, when moving the focus to the current navigator object, in a users list of folders, slsk focuses on the wrong folder. i have no other issues with ns and really don't want to upgrade to qt. Anyone else experienced this and is it an nvda or windows 10 issue? works fine on win 7.

Best, O.






Re: Using combo boxes in Chrome.

John Isige
 

Ah! Thanks, I didn't know that. Good thing to know. I'll have to
remember that, I imagine it will come in quite handy.

On 4/7/2018 18:39, Gene wrote:
Enter puts you in forms mode but you are taken out of forms mode when
a page refreshes if you enter it in that way.  NVDA key space places
you in forms mode and you stay in forms mode regardless of what
happens such as a page refreshing.  If you press escape, you will
return to browse mode or if you use the same command, NVDA key space,
you will return to browse mode. But you never automatically return if
you enter forms mode with NVDA key space.
Gene
----- Original Message -----

*From:* John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent:* Saturday, April 07, 2018 5:49 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Using combo boxes in Chrome.

Thanks! NVDA-space did the trick, weird that it didn't work with enter.
So hitting NVDA-space and then alt-down to expand let's you arrow
through it and hit enter on whatever you want, but replacing NVDA-space
with enter doesn't seem to let you, at least it didn't work for me.
Enter takes it into focus, it at least makes the sound for it, but then
as soon as you do anything with the arrows, it changes. I'll bet this
trick will work for stuff like Amazon's combo boxes too.


On 4/7/2018 16:36, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

It works the same in chrome and firefox for me

All i did was to hit C to find the combo boxes then NVDA+space to go
into focus mode then alt+down arrow to expand and and up/down arrow
for your choice and hit enter

*From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent: *07 April 2018 22:11
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:*nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Using combo boxes in Chrome.

Right. But in Chrome, I can't seem to change it. In Firefox, if I expand

it with alt-down arrow, I get a list I can arrow through, and then when

I tab out, it picks my selection. For example, if I pick "content" in

Firefox and hit enter and then alt-down to expand, I can arrow to

"album" and hit tab, and it will filter for albums. In Chrome, that

doesn't work, it just changes something and reloads the page, often

getting rid of the search results entirely. The audio player doesn't

seem to work for me in Firefox, or I'd just use that and be done
with it.

On 4/7/2018 15:36, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

its a filter, it refreshes to reflect your choice
*From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent: *07 April 2018 21:23
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:*nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

*Subject: *[nvda] Using combo boxes in Chrome.
Hey all. So far as I know I'm on latest NVDA and latest Chrome. I'm
trying to use the combo boxes on the following site.
http://www.folkways.si.edu/search?query=harmonica
If I hit enter on one, say "content", and use the arrows, it
reloads the

page. If I expand it, it reloads the page. If I arrow when it's
expanded, it reloads the page. Anybody know of a fix for this?
Right now

they're unusable, and I have a feeling Chrome does this for other
sites

too, though I could be wrong about that. I haven't tried Firefox
because

I don't think the audio player works for me in Firefox, although I
finally got it working in Chrome, so I'll go check that now, in
case it

works any better.



Re: nvda 2018.1 and soulseek ns?

Ron Canazzi
 

You also must realize that when browsing a user's files, the interface is a tree view.  If you hear the word collapsed in front of a folder name, you must use the right arrow key to open that tree and go below in the sub structure.  You must always make sure that you are in object navigation and if you do not get a download option in your right click menu, you have probably been moved out of object navigation into screen review.  This can happen if you alt + tab away from Soulseek and then back.

On 4/7/2018 12:11 PM, Orhan Deniz via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi Ron,
This issue only occurs when browsing a users files. so say for instance: there is a folder 1995, with nested folders below it, and the third one is called Folder C, I can move the navigator object to it, but as soon as i right click, it selects 1995 instead.

Orhan.
On 07/04/2018 08:04, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Orhan,


I am not having this issue s such.  From Windows 7 on up, I always had to make sure that when in a list using Soulseek, I had to be sure to be in object navigation mode and then to use the right mouse button click when in a list of transfers and in a list of search results, I use the context menu key.  Just why this is, I do not know but it works this way for years.





On 4/6/2018 5:02 PM, Orhan Deniz via Groups.Io wrote:
On windows 10, using soulseek ns 157, when moving the focus to the current navigator object, in a users list of folders, slsk focuses on the wrong folder. i have no other issues with ns and really don't want to upgrade to qt. Anyone else experienced this and is it an nvda or windows 10 issue? works fine on win 7.

Best, O.




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Re: Using combo boxes in Chrome.

Gene
 

Enter puts you in forms mode but you are taken out of forms mode when a page refreshes if you enter it in that way.  NVDA key space places you in forms mode and you stay in forms mode regardless of what happens such as a page refreshing.  If you press escape, you will return to browse mode or if you use the same command, NVDA key space, you will return to browse mode.  But you never automatically return if you enter forms mode with NVDA key space.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: John Isige
Sent: Saturday, April 07, 2018 5:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using combo boxes in Chrome.

Thanks! NVDA-space did the trick, weird that it didn't work with enter.
So hitting NVDA-space and then alt-down to expand let's you arrow
through it and hit enter on whatever you want, but replacing NVDA-space
with enter doesn't seem to let you, at least it didn't work for me.
Enter takes it into focus, it at least makes the sound for it, but then
as soon as you do anything with the arrows, it changes. I'll bet this
trick will work for stuff like Amazon's combo boxes too.


On 4/7/2018 16:36, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:
>
> It works the same in chrome and firefox for me
>
> All i did was to hit C to find the combo boxes then NVDA+space to go
> into focus mode then alt+down arrow to expand and and up/down arrow
> for your choice and hit enter
>
> *From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>
> *Sent: *07 April 2018 22:11
> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] Using combo boxes in Chrome.
>
> Right. But in Chrome, I can't seem to change it. In Firefox, if I expand
>
> it with alt-down arrow, I get a list I can arrow through, and then when
>
> I tab out, it picks my selection. For example, if I pick "content" in
>
> Firefox and hit enter and then alt-down to expand, I can arrow to
>
> "album" and hit tab, and it will filter for albums. In Chrome, that
>
> doesn't work, it just changes something and reloads the page, often
>
> getting rid of the search results entirely. The audio player doesn't
>
> seem to work for me in Firefox, or I'd just use that and be done with it.
>
> On 4/7/2018 15:36, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:
>
> >
>
> > its a filter, it refreshes to reflect your choice
>
> >
>
> > *From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>
>
> > *Sent: *07 April 2018 21:23
>
> > *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>
> > *Subject: *[nvda] Using combo boxes in Chrome.
>
> >
>
> > Hey all. So far as I know I'm on latest NVDA and latest Chrome. I'm
>
> >
>
> > trying to use the combo boxes on the following site.
>
> >
>
> > http://www.folkways.si.edu/search?query=harmonica
>
> >
>
> > If I hit enter on one, say "content", and use the arrows, it reloads the
>
> >
>
> > page. If I expand it, it reloads the page. If I arrow when it's
>
> >
>
> > expanded, it reloads the page. Anybody know of a fix for this? Right now
>
> >
>
> > they're unusable, and I have a feeling Chrome does this for other sites
>
> >
>
> > too, though I could be wrong about that. I haven't tried Firefox because
>
> >
>
> > I don't think the audio player works for me in Firefox, although I
>
> >
>
> > finally got it working in Chrome, so I'll go check that now, in case it
>
> >
>
> > works any better.
>
> >
>
> >
>
>