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Re: Google appearing in Frame in Firefox

Chris
 

It sounds like to me that cookie warning message that EU regulation dictates that must be shown when ever you visit a new site

It usually says got it link to clear it in most instances

Unless you have blocked cookies for some reason it should clear

 

Thank god we leaving all that BS behind

😃

 


Re: Google appearing in Frame in Firefox

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I think on many search providers you can put in personal preffs, like how many results and hide image results etc, which can be a lot of help if you are in a hurry. I don't think its got anything to do with that particular page, at least not when I see it. Another issue is that it seems of late that google keeps on telling me to look again at their terms of service or log in to get this or that instead of simply putting up the page, this seems to have nothing to do with this got it thing.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2018 5:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google appearing in Frame in Firefox


What is the advantage of using the iesearch syntax? If you just use the google.com page, you are placed in the search field if you have JAVA scripts enabled. If you don't, you can very easily move to it. Once you do your search and the results come up, you can move from result to result with the letter h for move by heading. You have to press h a number of times to get to the first result. Are you going through all this for no advantage?

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Google appearing in Frame in Firefox


Hi all,



I am using Firefox latest version, windows 10 and Google search page with the latest NVDA.



I have set my default page in Firefox to:

"https://www.google.ie/search?complete=0";



This has worked fine for many years until two nights ago.



Now Google opens up with some sort of frame that I cannot navigate clearly enough to describe here. The frame ends with a "got it" button which appears under the cursor when the page is fully loaded. I press enter or space bar to select the "got it" button in the hope that this will bring me back to the simple Google search edit box. However, nothing happens!



The screen goes completely still and no keys work on it. NVDA freezes. After about two minutes, NVDA wakes up and announces "Google" but then stops.



When I get a bit of reaction from the screen I can see that Google is in some sort of frame. I cannot find any description of frames in Firefox and so I am stumped!



Can anyone advise what is happening and what I can do to get back to my normal Google search window?



By the way, I had the latest Firefox when this problem first appeared. I have now gone back to Firefox 56.2 in the hope that the earlier Firefox would not invoke the Google frames but Google still does the same thing. I opened Google with the "search?complete=0" argument and it opens without any problem. This issue seems to apply only to Firefox when using the Google search engine.



Please help while I still have some hair left!



All the best,



Cearbhall



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Re: Earlier version working

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It used to be the second Tuesday in the month here but more recently they are arriving on any old day even though its still set for Tuesday.
I seriously am suggesting that a feature in nvda to alert one of this condition would be most appreciated.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 10:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Earlier version working


Brian, I do know that wednesdays are at least for me in new zealand the days updates happen.

So I usually get up at 6 am, turn on all the systems I can, and remote into all the systems that are active, and update them all with all the updates, by 7-7.30 updates come from ms and I update before I use the system.




On 15/02/2018 5:14 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Windows did an update today, at least windows 7 did and itt was very insistant, every time I told it to defer it it came back so I had to close umpteen windows down after saving contents so it could restart.
One annoying thing about the restart of windows is that the window opened that has the countdown is not opened in the forground, so very often I've had the thing shut down while I was working on a document meaning I had to recover it from a list afterwarrds.

Its a pity that nvda could not spot update windows and alert one to their presence.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra Gardner" <dgardner18@satx.rr.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Earlier version working


I spoke too soon! I was enjoying having NVDA back and then windows did an update and things are back to the way they were before. (frown)


From: Debra Gardner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Earlier version working


Well, in frustration, I uninstalled the latest version of NVDA and installed one from 2015. Voila! Everything is working. I don't know why. No more unknowns and silences. Since it's an earlier version perhaps the finer tunings don't work as well, but it's nice to have it back!





Re: Google appearing in Frame in Firefox

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I've seen this as well on other pages. Got it is hardly very helpful. Have you inadvertently turned on the tools display in Firefox, where you can examine the pages?
I seem to find that just checking all the bars and other sundry bits are off seems to fix it on a reboot of the browser.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Cearbhall O'Meadhra" <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 9:37 PM
Subject: [nvda] Google appearing in Frame in Firefox


Hi all,



I am using Firefox latest version, windows 10 and Google search page with
the latest NVDA.



I have set my default page in Firefox to:

"https://www.google.ie/search <http://www.google.ie/search>; ?complete=0"



This has worked fine for many years until two nights ago.



Now Google opens up with some sort of frame that I cannot navigate clearly
enough to describe here. The frame ends with a "got it" button which appears
under the cursor when the page is fully loaded. I press enter or space bar
to select the "got it" button in the hope that this will bring me back to
the simple Google search edit box. However, nothing happens!



The screen goes completely still and no keys work on it. NVDA freezes. After
about two minutes, NVDA wakes up and announces "Google" but then stops.



When I get a bit of reaction from the screen I can see that Google is in
some sort of frame. I cannot find any description of frames in Firefox and
so I am stumped!



Can anyone advise what is happening and what I can do to get back to my
normal Google search window?



By the way, I had the latest Firefox when this problem first appeared. I
have now gone back to Firefox 56.2 in the hope that the earlier Firefox
would not invoke the Google frames but Google still does the same thing. I
opened Google with the "search?complete=0" argument and it opens without any
problem. This issue seems to apply only to Firefox when using the Google
search engine.



Please help while I still have some hair left!



All the best,



Cearbhall



m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie






Re: nvdaHelperRemote persists with latest snapshot

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Does the master branch latest snap work, as this is the one which will become the next release, not the next snaps.
I really think we have seen a number of unexplained strange behaviours in the last few weeks. Whether this is just coincidence or not I have no idea. Some people are using windows 7 others 8 and 10, so maybe they are not connected, but maybe there os some extra ingredient here we are all missing. Some update to a piece of code running in the background, such as anti virus or service that is messing about with more recent versions of nvda.#

I think these really do need a member of the dev team to try to find out the exact environments and extents of problems in a system smitten by one of these weird effects. Thus far the only one I've seen is the inability to restart sometimes after an update, traced to the core of windows being processing removal of locked folders and files and these usually go away if a delay in restarting is don or a reboot of nvda. These issues afflict some other software so have to be a windows thing. In the case of the people with problems these seem to be.
A dll missing which is part of a Microsoft runtime package
Intermittent refusal to speak menus and parts of dialogues
Lack of virtual buffers oon browsers.
Some of these are very reminiscent of non registered dll files of inability to locate said files by some part of the system. As these files mostly only show up as a problem when using a screenreader, it may well be there are problems in the wider community, which is going undetected, perhaps due to a combination of windows updates or updates to other software in the background. Of course it could b that the specifics of calling code are not entirely correct in certain circumstances making the nvda program have issues.

I really do think that somebody needs to find a way to raise all these things as issues sooner rather than later as you say, in case there is a wider issue. If developers can simulate the environment in use that causes these problems, then fixing them is not so hard.
Just my penneth on it.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Christo de Klerk" <christodeklerk@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 5:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvdaHelperRemote persists with latest snapshot


Hello especially to the NVDA developers


A few days ago (a few snapshots ago) I wrote that when I updated NVDA to the new snapshot, I received an error message with the following label:


nvdaHelperRemote (outprocMgrThreadFunc)

The text of the error message is:


Error registering focus winEvent hook

Then there is an Ok button. When I Ok the dialog, NVDA works, except that there is no browse mode buffer which makes web browsing impossible.


This problem persists with the very latest snapshot which I have just installed, so I had to fall back again to the last working snapshot which is from about 4 February. This happens only on my 64 bit machine.


The result of this is that I have not been able to use the last number of snapshots and I have a real concern that this problem may manifest itself once 2018.1 gets released which would mean that I will not be able to use that version on my 64 bit machine.


Does anyone have any idea what is happening here?


Kind regards


Christo




Re: Using VLC media player with NVDA

 

i studied about version 3 in the official website of vlc.
i realized that since version 3, it supports text to speech for subtitle.
i realy appreciate if someone tell me does version 3 have the problems
which i mentioned in my previous comments?
or is it accessible completely like kmplayer, potplayer winamp etc.
i appreciate if someone tell me about accessibility in version 3 and
is the problem which i had resolved or not.

On 2/15/18, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Well v3 never came out on standard update, someone posted a verge
article on twitter and then I updated it.




On 15/02/2018 7:03 a.m., The Wolf wrote:
didn't know there was a version 3 will give that a look in to.

On 2/14/2018 7:15 AM, zahra wrote:
hi.
did someone try vlc version 3?
the last version that i tried is 2.2.8.
it workes, but not very intuative like km or potplayer.
for example:
i cant go forward or backword using just left and right arrow keys
which makes navigation a little fifficult.
and when i go to preferences nvda says pane pane pane many times,
after announcing specific option, it tells about fonts!
exactly like the time that you use nvda+f!
what should i do to prevent this problem?

On 2/13/18, JM Casey <crystallogic@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Ah. Cheers, Gene.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene New
Zealand
Sent: February 13, 2018 2:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using VLC media player with NVDA



Hi



There is a tutorial up on my website for VLC media player but it is
more for
playing dvds with audio description and music which should also have
a link
to the add on in the page.



it can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html



After going to the page you will need to jump down by headings to
the VLC
media player tutorial.



hope it helps.



Gene nz





On 2/14/2018 8:24 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I’ve never used it with this Chromecast. I use it to play videos,
for which
it’s excellent. No tutorials that I know of. My experience with the
program?
It’s very powerful and versatile, but sometimes things are
non-intuitive,
and certain things, like the advanced preferences dialog screen, don’t
always play so nicely with screen-readers. It is however possible to
change
the VLC interface. I don’t know if there are any specific interface
alterations available that work better with NVDA. I’d certainly be
interested to find out. For now, I’ve *mostly* gotten the program to do
everything I want it to do. The hardest thing, strangely enough, has
been to
save my own equalizer settings for movies, but I think I finally got
that
covered.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Governor
staten
Sent: February 13, 2018 11:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using VLC media player with NVDA



There is an add-on for it. That will help quite a bit with usage.





   _____



On 2/13/2018 8:56 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:

Has anyone any experience using the VLC media player with NVDA?
I've just
installed it in order to take advantage of its ability to use a
Chromecast,
and, while I've gotten it to work, I'm wondering if anone has done a
good
tutorial for VLC, either with NVDA, or just in general.

Thanks.
Christopher BArtlett






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at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are
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Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of
the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations
(or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near
you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA
expert
exam.






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Re: Debug JavaScript for Developer

特種兵
 


  I use alert debug my javascript
  call this file in page when you need
  please reference, hope to help you

debug.js:
window.onerror = showerror;
function showerror(msg, url, line, column, rerr)
{
 alert('Error: ' + msg + ' Line: ' + line + ' character: ' + column + ' url ' + url + ' ' + rerr);
 window.onerror=null;  
 return true;  
}

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan
Oleksandr Gryshchenko 於 2018/2/15 上午 06:08 寫道:

Hi all!
I am also interested in this issue.
Please write here if someone managed to find a solution.
Thank you!


Re: Google appearing in Frame in Firefox

Gene
 

I just compared the two pages.  They appear identical.  I was looking with an old version of Firefox so I don't know if there would be differences with a new version.  But what happens if you use the standard address?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Google appearing in Frame in Firefox

What is the advantage of using the iesearch syntax?  If you just use the google.com page, you are placed in the search field if you have JAVA scripts enabled.  If you don't, you can very easily move to it.  Once you do your search and the results come up, you can move from result to result with the letter h for move by heading.  You have to press h a number of times to get to the first result.  Are you going through all this for no advantage?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:37 PM
Subject: [nvda] Google appearing in Frame in Firefox

Hi all,

 

I am using Firefox latest version, windows 10 and Google search page with the latest NVDA.

 

I have set my default page in Firefox to:

https://www.google.ie/search?complete=0

 

This has worked fine for many years until two nights ago.

 

Now Google opens up with some sort of frame that I cannot navigate clearly enough to describe here. The frame ends with a got it button which appears under the cursor when the page is fully loaded. I press enter or space bar to select the got it button in the hope that this will bring me back to the simple Google search edit box. However, nothing happens!

 

The screen goes completely still and no keys work on it. NVDA freezes. After about two minutes, NVDA wakes up and announces Google but then stops.

 

When I get a bit of reaction from the screen I can see that Google is in some sort of frame. I cannot find any description of frames in Firefox and so I am stumped!

 

Can anyone advise what is happening and what I can do to get back to my normal Google search window?

 

By the way, I had the latest Firefox when this problem first appeared. I have now gone back to Firefox  56.2 in the hope that the earlier Firefox would not invoke the Google frames but Google still does the same thing. I opened Google with the search?complete=0 argument and it opens without any problem. This issue seems to apply only to Firefox when using the Google search engine.

 

Please help while I still have some hair left!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 


Re: Google appearing in Frame in Firefox

Gene
 

What is the advantage of using the iesearch syntax?  If you just use the google.com page, you are placed in the search field if you have JAVA scripts enabled.  If you don't, you can very easily move to it.  Once you do your search and the results come up, you can move from result to result with the letter h for move by heading.  You have to press h a number of times to get to the first result.  Are you going through all this for no advantage?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:37 PM
Subject: [nvda] Google appearing in Frame in Firefox

Hi all,

 

I am using Firefox latest version, windows 10 and Google search page with the latest NVDA.

 

I have set my default page in Firefox to:

https://www.google.ie/search?complete=0

 

This has worked fine for many years until two nights ago.

 

Now Google opens up with some sort of frame that I cannot navigate clearly enough to describe here. The frame ends with a got it button which appears under the cursor when the page is fully loaded. I press enter or space bar to select the got it button in the hope that this will bring me back to the simple Google search edit box. However, nothing happens!

 

The screen goes completely still and no keys work on it. NVDA freezes. After about two minutes, NVDA wakes up and announces Google but then stops.

 

When I get a bit of reaction from the screen I can see that Google is in some sort of frame. I cannot find any description of frames in Firefox and so I am stumped!

 

Can anyone advise what is happening and what I can do to get back to my normal Google search window?

 

By the way, I had the latest Firefox when this problem first appeared. I have now gone back to Firefox  56.2 in the hope that the earlier Firefox would not invoke the Google frames but Google still does the same thing. I opened Google with the search?complete=0 argument and it opens without any problem. This issue seems to apply only to Firefox when using the Google search engine.

 

Please help while I still have some hair left!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 


Re: Using VLC media player with NVDA

 

Well v3 never came out on standard update, someone posted a verge article on twitter and then I updated it.

On 15/02/2018 7:03 a.m., The Wolf wrote:
didn't know there was a version 3 will give that a look in to.

On 2/14/2018 7:15 AM, zahra wrote:
hi.
did someone try vlc version 3?
the last version that i tried is 2.2.8.
it workes, but not very intuative like km or potplayer.
for example:
i cant go forward or backword using just left and right arrow keys
which makes navigation a little fifficult.
and when i go to preferences nvda says pane pane pane many times,
after announcing specific option, it tells about fonts!
exactly like the time that you use nvda+f!
what should i do to prevent this problem?

On 2/13/18, JM Casey <crystallogic@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Ah. Cheers, Gene.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New
Zealand
Sent: February 13, 2018 2:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using VLC media player with NVDA



Hi



There is a tutorial up on my website for VLC media player but it is more for
playing dvds with audio description and music which should also have a link
to the add on in the page.



it can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

After going to the page you will need to jump down by headings to the VLC
media player tutorial.



hope it helps.



Gene nz





On 2/14/2018 8:24 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I’ve never used it with this Chromecast. I use it to play videos, for which
it’s excellent. No tutorials that I know of. My experience with the program?
It’s very powerful and versatile, but sometimes things are non-intuitive,
and certain things, like the advanced preferences dialog screen, don’t
always play so nicely with screen-readers. It is however possible to change
the VLC interface. I don’t know if there are any specific interface
alterations available that work better with NVDA. I’d certainly be
interested to find out. For now, I’ve *mostly* gotten the program to do
everything I want it to do. The hardest thing, strangely enough, has been to
save my own equalizer settings for movies, but I think I finally got that
covered.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Governor
staten
Sent: February 13, 2018 11:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using VLC media player with NVDA



There is an add-on for it. That will help quite a bit with usage.





   _____



On 2/13/2018 8:56 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:

Has anyone any experience using the VLC media player with NVDA?  I've just
installed it in order to take advantage of its ability to use a Chromecast,
and, while I've gotten it to work, I'm wondering if anone has done a good
tutorial for VLC, either with NVDA, or just in general.

Thanks.
Christopher BArtlett






--

Christopher Bartlett



--
Image NVDAcertified expert

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.





.


Re: Google appearing in Frame in Firefox

Mike Sedmak
 

I haven't found a fix, but I am also seeing a very similar issue
starting today using Firefox ESR or 58 and windows 7 and latest
release nvda 2017

I have not seen this on any other websites, only google.com

No issue using chrome to go to the google.com page

On 2/14/18, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:
Hi all,



I am using Firefox latest version, windows 10 and Google search page with
the latest NVDA.



I have set my default page in Firefox to:

"https://www.google.ie/search <http://www.google.ie/search>; ?complete=0"



This has worked fine for many years until two nights ago.



Now Google opens up with some sort of frame that I cannot navigate clearly
enough to describe here. The frame ends with a "got it" button which
appears
under the cursor when the page is fully loaded. I press enter or space bar
to select the "got it" button in the hope that this will bring me back to
the simple Google search edit box. However, nothing happens!



The screen goes completely still and no keys work on it. NVDA freezes.
After
about two minutes, NVDA wakes up and announces "Google" but then stops.



When I get a bit of reaction from the screen I can see that Google is in
some sort of frame. I cannot find any description of frames in Firefox and
so I am stumped!



Can anyone advise what is happening and what I can do to get back to my
normal Google search window?



By the way, I had the latest Firefox when this problem first appeared. I
have now gone back to Firefox 56.2 in the hope that the earlier Firefox
would not invoke the Google frames but Google still does the same thing. I
opened Google with the "search?complete=0" argument and it opens without
any
problem. This issue seems to apply only to Firefox when using the Google
search engine.



Please help while I still have some hair left!



All the best,



Cearbhall



m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie






Re: Earlier version working

 

Brian, I do know that wednesdays are at least for me in new zealand the days updates happen.

So I usually get up at 6 am, turn on all the systems I can, and remote into all the systems that are active, and update them all with all the updates, by 7-7.30 updates come from ms and I update before I use the system.

On 15/02/2018 5:14 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Windows did an update today, at least windows 7 did and itt was very insistant, every time I told it to defer it it came back so I had to close umpteen windows down after saving contents so it could restart.
One annoying thing about the restart of windows is that the window opened that has the countdown is not opened in the forground, so very often I've had the thing shut down while I was working on a document meaning I had to recover it from a list afterwarrds.

Its a pity that nvda could not spot update windows and alert one to their presence.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Debra Gardner" <dgardner18@satx.rr.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 14, 2018 3:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Earlier version working


I spoke too soon!  I was enjoying having NVDA back and then windows did an update and  things are back to the way they were before. (frown)


From: Debra Gardner
Sent: Tuesday, February 13, 2018 8:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Earlier version working


Well, in frustration, I uninstalled the latest version of NVDA and installed one from 2015.  Voila! Everything is working.  I don't know why.  No more unknowns and silences.  Since it's an earlier version perhaps the finer tunings don't work as well, but it's nice to have it back!




Re: Debug JavaScript for Developer

Antony Stone
 

Er, what is the question / problem / issue?

Antony.

On Wednesday 14 February 2018 at 23:08:20, Oleksandr Gryshchenko wrote:

Hi all!
I am also interested in this issue.
Please write here if someone managed to find a solution.
Thank you!
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If you have to explain it, it means it doesn't work.

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Re: Debug JavaScript for Developer

Oleksandr Gryshchenko
 

Hi all!
I am also interested in this issue.
Please write here if someone managed to find a solution.
Thank you!


Google appearing in Frame in Firefox

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi all,

 

I am using Firefox latest version, windows 10 and Google search page with the latest NVDA.

 

I have set my default page in Firefox to:

https://www.google.ie/search?complete=0

 

This has worked fine for many years until two nights ago.

 

Now Google opens up with some sort of frame that I cannot navigate clearly enough to describe here. The frame ends with a got it button which appears under the cursor when the page is fully loaded. I press enter or space bar to select the got it button in the hope that this will bring me back to the simple Google search edit box. However, nothing happens!

 

The screen goes completely still and no keys work on it. NVDA freezes. After about two minutes, NVDA wakes up and announces Google but then stops.

 

When I get a bit of reaction from the screen I can see that Google is in some sort of frame. I cannot find any description of frames in Firefox and so I am stumped!

 

Can anyone advise what is happening and what I can do to get back to my normal Google search window?

 

By the way, I had the latest Firefox when this problem first appeared. I have now gone back to Firefox  56.2 in the hope that the earlier Firefox would not invoke the Google frames but Google still does the same thing. I opened Google with the search?complete=0 argument and it opens without any problem. This issue seems to apply only to Firefox when using the Google search engine.

 

Please help while I still have some hair left!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 


Re: Using VLC media player with NVDA

Christopher Bartlett
 

Thank you all.  I've installed the NVDA addon and will be doing some more exploration later.  For those interested, 3.0 brings functionality for casting directly to a Chromecast using the media/render menu option.  If all goes well, your Chromecast should appear in the submenu that appears when you invoke this menu item.  You will have to approve a UAC check, and then it just works.  (Or rather, it just works sort of, when it feels like, according to no rhyme or reason I can yet discover, still it's better than the state of play before, and presumably, this functionality is under development.)
Chris


On Wed, Feb 14, 2018 at 1:27 PM, JM Casey <crystallogic@...> wrote:
I don't know how to explain the preferences dialog. Sometimes it works ok; sometimes it doesn't. It's generally a bit of a frustrating experience. Sometimes for instance when you are on a checkbox, you need to actively check or uncheck the box with the spacebar before you can even be sure you are on a checkbox at all. I wish I could elucidate this program a little better.

As for moving around in a file ... there are commands for this. You should read the hotkey table. Shift-left or right for instance will move you a short increment; ctrl-left or right a longer increment (I can't remember the default increments, but they are probably configurable, given that this is vlc).



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: February 14, 2018 9:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using VLC media player with NVDA

hi.
did someone try vlc version 3?
the last version that i tried is 2.2.8.
it workes, but not very intuative like km or potplayer.
for example:
i cant go forward or backword using just left and right arrow keys which makes navigation a little fifficult.
and when i go to preferences nvda says pane pane pane many times, after announcing specific option, it tells about fonts!
exactly like the time that you use nvda+f!
what should i do to prevent this problem?

On 2/13/18, JM Casey <crystallogic@...> wrote:
> Ah. Cheers, Gene.
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Gene New Zealand
> Sent: February 13, 2018 2:51 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using VLC media player with NVDA
>
>
>
> Hi
>
>
>
> There is a tutorial up on my website for VLC media player but it is
> more for playing dvds with audio description and music which should
> also have a link to the add on in the page.
>
>
>
> it can be found at
> http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20p
> rograms.html
>
> After going to the page you will need to jump down by headings to the
> VLC media player tutorial.
>
>
>
> hope it helps.
>
>
>
> Gene nz
>
>
>
>
>
> On 2/14/2018 8:24 AM, JM Casey wrote:
>
> I’ve never used it with this Chromecast. I use it to play videos, for
> which it’s excellent. No tutorials that I know of. My experience with the program?
> It’s very powerful and versatile, but sometimes things are
> non-intuitive, and certain things, like the advanced preferences
> dialog screen, don’t always play so nicely with screen-readers. It is
> however possible to change the VLC interface. I don’t know if there
> are any specific interface alterations available that work better with
> NVDA. I’d certainly be interested to find out. For now, I’ve *mostly*
> gotten the program to do everything I want it to do. The hardest
> thing, strangely enough, has been to save my own equalizer settings
> for movies, but I think I finally got that covered.
>
>
>
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
> Governor staten
> Sent: February 13, 2018 11:45 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Using VLC media player with NVDA
>
>
>
> There is an add-on for it. That will help quite a bit with usage.
>
>
>
>
>
>   _____
>
>
>
> On 2/13/2018 8:56 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:
>
> Has anyone any experience using the VLC media player with NVDA?  I've
> just installed it in order to take advantage of its ability to use a
> Chromecast, and, while I've gotten it to work, I'm wondering if anone
> has done a good tutorial for VLC, either with NVDA, or just in general.
>
> Thanks.
> Christopher BArtlett
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Christopher Bartlett
>
>
>
> --
> Image NVDAcertified expert
>
> Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
> material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where
> you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can
> use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To
> find out which locations (or
> location) is near to you please visit
> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
> (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
> near you, please visit the following link
> https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains
> the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world,
> who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
>
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org









--
Christopher Bartlett


Re: Using VLC media player with NVDA

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

I don't know how to explain the preferences dialog. Sometimes it works ok; sometimes it doesn't. It's generally a bit of a frustrating experience. Sometimes for instance when you are on a checkbox, you need to actively check or uncheck the box with the spacebar before you can even be sure you are on a checkbox at all. I wish I could elucidate this program a little better.

As for moving around in a file ... there are commands for this. You should read the hotkey table. Shift-left or right for instance will move you a short increment; ctrl-left or right a longer increment (I can't remember the default increments, but they are probably configurable, given that this is vlc).

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: February 14, 2018 9:15 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using VLC media player with NVDA

hi.
did someone try vlc version 3?
the last version that i tried is 2.2.8.
it workes, but not very intuative like km or potplayer.
for example:
i cant go forward or backword using just left and right arrow keys which makes navigation a little fifficult.
and when i go to preferences nvda says pane pane pane many times, after announcing specific option, it tells about fonts!
exactly like the time that you use nvda+f!
what should i do to prevent this problem?

On 2/13/18, JM Casey <crystallogic@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Ah. Cheers, Gene.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Gene New Zealand
Sent: February 13, 2018 2:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using VLC media player with NVDA



Hi



There is a tutorial up on my website for VLC media player but it is
more for playing dvds with audio description and music which should
also have a link to the add on in the page.



it can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20p
rograms.html

After going to the page you will need to jump down by headings to the
VLC media player tutorial.



hope it helps.



Gene nz





On 2/14/2018 8:24 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I’ve never used it with this Chromecast. I use it to play videos, for
which it’s excellent. No tutorials that I know of. My experience with the program?
It’s very powerful and versatile, but sometimes things are
non-intuitive, and certain things, like the advanced preferences
dialog screen, don’t always play so nicely with screen-readers. It is
however possible to change the VLC interface. I don’t know if there
are any specific interface alterations available that work better with
NVDA. I’d certainly be interested to find out. For now, I’ve *mostly*
gotten the program to do everything I want it to do. The hardest
thing, strangely enough, has been to save my own equalizer settings
for movies, but I think I finally got that covered.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Governor staten
Sent: February 13, 2018 11:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using VLC media player with NVDA



There is an add-on for it. That will help quite a bit with usage.





_____



On 2/13/2018 8:56 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:

Has anyone any experience using the VLC media player with NVDA? I've
just installed it in order to take advantage of its ability to use a
Chromecast, and, while I've gotten it to work, I'm wondering if anone
has done a good tutorial for VLC, either with NVDA, or just in general.

Thanks.
Christopher BArtlett






--

Christopher Bartlett



--
Image NVDAcertified expert

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where
you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can
use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To
find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains
the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world,
who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.




--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org


Re: Using VLC media player with NVDA

 

didn't know there was a version 3 will give that a look in to.

On 2/14/2018 7:15 AM, zahra wrote:
hi.
did someone try vlc version 3?
the last version that i tried is 2.2.8.
it workes, but not very intuative like km or potplayer.
for example:
i cant go forward or backword using just left and right arrow keys
which makes navigation a little fifficult.
and when i go to preferences nvda says pane pane pane many times,
after announcing specific option, it tells about fonts!
exactly like the time that you use nvda+f!
what should i do to prevent this problem?

On 2/13/18, JM Casey <crystallogic@ca.inter.net> wrote:
Ah. Cheers, Gene.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New
Zealand
Sent: February 13, 2018 2:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using VLC media player with NVDA



Hi



There is a tutorial up on my website for VLC media player but it is more for
playing dvds with audio description and music which should also have a link
to the add on in the page.



it can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

After going to the page you will need to jump down by headings to the VLC
media player tutorial.



hope it helps.



Gene nz





On 2/14/2018 8:24 AM, JM Casey wrote:

I’ve never used it with this Chromecast. I use it to play videos, for which
it’s excellent. No tutorials that I know of. My experience with the program?
It’s very powerful and versatile, but sometimes things are non-intuitive,
and certain things, like the advanced preferences dialog screen, don’t
always play so nicely with screen-readers. It is however possible to change
the VLC interface. I don’t know if there are any specific interface
alterations available that work better with NVDA. I’d certainly be
interested to find out. For now, I’ve *mostly* gotten the program to do
everything I want it to do. The hardest thing, strangely enough, has been to
save my own equalizer settings for movies, but I think I finally got that
covered.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Governor
staten
Sent: February 13, 2018 11:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using VLC media player with NVDA



There is an add-on for it. That will help quite a bit with usage.





_____



On 2/13/2018 8:56 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:

Has anyone any experience using the VLC media player with NVDA? I've just
installed it in order to take advantage of its ability to use a Chromecast,
and, while I've gotten it to work, I'm wondering if anone has done a good
tutorial for VLC, either with NVDA, or just in general.

Thanks.
Christopher BArtlett






--

Christopher Bartlett



--
Image NVDAcertified expert

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material
at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New
Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA
screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or
location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please
visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals
from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert
exam.




Re: Video editing

 

you alsomay want to look in to

video redo

hth

Hank



On 2/14/2018 6:18 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:
This is accessible but not as good as Virtual Dub and the video editor by NCH, videopad.
Machete Video Editor Lite - Edit AVI and WMV video files without decoding/quality loss
http://machetesoft.com/home/about-machete-video-editor-lite.html


nvdaHelperRemote persists with latest snapshot

Christo de Klerk
 

Hello especially to the NVDA developers


A few days ago (a few snapshots ago) I wrote that when I updated NVDA to the new snapshot, I received an error message with the following label:


nvdaHelperRemote (outprocMgrThreadFunc)

The text of the error message is:


Error registering focus winEvent hook

Then there is an Ok button. When I Ok the dialog, NVDA works, except that there is no browse mode buffer which makes web browsing impossible.


This problem persists with the very latest snapshot which I have just installed, so I had to fall back again to the last working snapshot which is from about 4 February. This happens only on my 64 bit machine.


The result of this is that I have not been able to use the last number of snapshots and I have a real concern that this problem may manifest itself once 2018.1 gets released which would mean that I will not be able to use that version on my 64 bit machine.


Does anyone have any idea what is happening here?


Kind regards


Christo