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Re: Question

Monte Single
 

I use a laptop with 4 gb; nvda works fine. I have never tried it with a 2 gig machine.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ibrahim Ajayi
Sent: June-03-18 3:52 AM
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Subject: [nvda] Question

Hi good people:
I just want to know if there is a specific limit of gigabyte memory space that a computer needs to have for NVDA to work effectively. How much GB of memory space is required.
Hope to read a response.
I am Ibrahim.


Re: Question about memory restraints for nvda

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From: "Ibrahim Ajayi" <kobisko@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 10:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question


Hi good people:
I just want to know if there is a specific limit of gigabyte memory
space that a computer needs to have for NVDA to work effectively. How
much GB of memory space is required.
Hope to read a response.
I am Ibrahim.

Well, I guess this one of those old chestnuts. Lets just say that the most probable issue will be the minimum spec needed to run other software you want to use. Most will be more greedy than nvda. From my experience at least a 2 core processor is needed particularly if you want to use other speech synths. it is also highly recomented that you run windows 10, though i use 7 with no real problems, it will be the more modern machines that have the better spec. other peoples cast offs that are running 7 may well only have a single core processor and 2 gig of ram which might make things very sluggish.
i do successfully run the older versions of nvda on xp machines and there has been no changes since modern versions of nvda cannot run in xp.

Even on those old machines though browsers tend to be very slow indeed and its got little to do with nvda!
So its really up to what you are trying to do on your computer I feel and what options are open to you in your country.
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Re: browse mode

Brennen Kinch
 

yeah it seems that none of the keys work the way they are supposed to even the one that turns on and off browse mode when you try it it just does nothing

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If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think is being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such problems in windows installations.
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Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m not sure I could write them all down in the email
On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi


Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus mode
when you go between those modes?


if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when you are
out of focus mode you hear another sound.


if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of focus
and browse modes

then save your settings.


If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?


Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on windows
and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff like that?


By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download the
latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this version of
nvda that might fix it.


If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some thing else
out and maybe narrow it a little.


Gene nz



On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

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Question

Ibrahim Ajayi
 

Hi good people:
I just want to know if there is a specific limit of gigabyte memory
space that a computer needs to have for NVDA to work effectively. How
much GB of memory space is required.
Hope to read a response.
I am Ibrahim.


Re: browse mode

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If you can run the latest master, and the problem is what I think is being suspected, then it has a tool that attempts to fix such problems in windows installations.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brennen Kinch" <brennenkinch@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 1:51 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m not sure I could write them all down in the email
On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi


Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus mode
when you go between those modes?


if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when you are
out of focus mode you hear another sound.


if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of focus
and browse modes

then save your settings.


If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?


Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on windows
and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff like that?


By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download the
latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this version of
nvda that might fix it.


If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some thing else
out and maybe narrow it a little.


Gene nz



On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

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Re: Possible Bug in 2018RC2: When navigating in Word 2016's backstage view items are repeated twice

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Hi I do not have such a modern version of word, but have also noticed on some versions of word if the view is set to anything but normal which some authors seem to do a lot, page breaks and text around them get mangled as well. This did not used to happen.
its easy to change view of course, but its strange.

Also sometimes you get an error dong at top and bottom of some files on snapshots. it appears to be benign but weird.


Also noted sometimes task switching say from word to jarte gets stuck for a while but eventually works then no further issues.

I suspect a lot of this is the old UIA sluggishness though. I'm using Windows 7 and its probably just the way the world is on this.
Brian

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From: "David Goldfield" <david.goldfield@outlook.com>
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Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 8:28 AM
Subject: [nvda] Possible Bug in 2018RC2: When navigating in Word 2016's backstage view items are repeated twice


Hi.

Not sure if this is a new bug but I don't recall this occurring with 2018.1.1.


Issue: When navigating in Word 2016's backstage view (file menu) each item is announced twice.


Steps to Reproduce

1. Open Word 2016 (Office 365.)

2. Press alt+F to open the backstage view.

3. Press down arrow to navigate items.


Actual Results

Each item is being announced twice. Example: "new new" "open open"


Expected Results

Each item should be announced once.

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Re: browse mode

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Hmm, so are you saying b for button etc, do work or do none of the single keys work on a page with known buttons or whatever?
Brian

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From: "Brennen Kinch" <brennenkinch@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, June 03, 2018 12:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] browse mode


no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

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Re: got to the nvda con late, but interesting and a question about snapshot vs official versions

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Yes I do not see why not. Just allocate a folder and save a portable version to that, and then overwrite the current version with a new download of whatever you want to have as default. What I do is to have a desktop shortcut to a batch file in each portable versions folder. The batch file is basically.

===
@echo off
start /w nvda.exe -q
start nvda.exe
exit
===

And bobs your fathers brother.
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Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2018 12:55 AM
Subject: [nvda] got to the nvda con late, but interesting and a question about snapshot vs official versions


Hi all.
I know I have not posted in here for a while.

I was at nvda con tonight. I did not talk or anything but to say one thing in the text chat.
I’d love to try to become a resource of help, (tech support you might say), for the community.
I’m not around all the time right now but I’d do my best for you all.
I use the nvda snapshots right now and its installed as the default screen reader on my computer.
My question is could I switch to make this one as a portable copy and switch back to the official versions for the main copy that I’d use almost always like I do this snapshot right now?
I hope I made myself understandable.
Have a good night or day


Scott
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Re: neo speech again

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I don't know what synth these use, as said in the thread previously, if they are a separate synth to the normal ones, somebody needs to write the driver for nvda so it can use the protocol used by the synth.
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From: "mattias" <mjonsson1986@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 10:37 PM
Subject: [nvda] neo speech again


Why does nvda hate just neospeech voices
The voices dont show up in nvda voices select combo

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Re: NVDA and teemtalk?

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Yeah, somebody put their finger in the leak.. :-)
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Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and teemtalk?


That was an issue with the NVDACon TeamTalk server that has now been fixed.
Luke

On 1 Jun 2018, at 19:52, Matt Turner <meturner2214@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks.
Trying to log in to nvdacon with teemtalk.
I've never seen this message come up before.
An error occurred while perform a requested command:
Commands are issued too fast. Flood protection.

OK



Re: Easiest Way to Upgrade an Existing Portable Installation

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The only difference in the process now between portable and installed is that you have to click OK on the portable one to run it at the end.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Easiest Way to Upgrade an Existing Portable Installation


Hi


Have you already got nvda installed? if so do the following.


If you grab the latest version of NVDA which is 2018.2 rc2 make sure you
install it to your computer first.

The reason for this is after you have made a portable copy now you do
not have to do all the other steps as you used to do.

While nvda is running use the nvda key + letter N, arrow down to tools a
sub menu will come off it then arrow down to the one that says make a
portable copy then press the enter key.

The next screen that comes up it will land in a edit area. Now
install your usb stick into the computer you should hear nvda say the
drive letter like e: drive. While in the edit area still make sure it is
clear as in no text then type in the drive letter and folder name. for
example e:\nvda Then tab a couple of times and you will hear nvda say
copy current configuration. If you want to check the box with the space
bar then Next you will hear nvda say Start the new portable copy after
creation and you can if you want it to start check this box as well.
Then tab to continue then press the enter key it will now install nvda
to your usb stick in a folder called nvda on the e:\ drive and put all
the files into it.

After that has been done the next time you want to upgrade the version
of nvda while it is running from off the usb stick is go to the help
menu then check for updates. It will tell you if there is one. If there
is you can then download it to your usb stick. it will then give you a
message when it is down press the enter key on the ok button then
install it. It will update over the version that is on the usb stick
just like you do when you use the installer copy of nvda.

I put a audio tutorial up on the nvda audio tutorials page showing it
can be either done on a usb stick or off a portable version on the
computer.. I think in the tutorial it also shows how to post pone the
update 2.

I think the tutorial is called like the new update feature and post
poning a update but it is around the USB section on the page.

Hope the above helps.

Gene nz

On 6/2/2018 4:54 AM, Richard Wells wrote:
Could some kind soul outline steps for upgrading an existing portable
installation of NVDA? I keep having to start over each time an upgrade
is released, because I can't figure out how to use the executable to
direct its update path to, say, e:\nvda. Thanks in advance for your
guidance.






Re: Easiest Way to Upgrade an Existing Portable Installation

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Yes you just go to help and check for updates.
Of course this assumes there is a new version to get.
I see this automatically happening as my working version is the master snapshots.
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Sent: Saturday, June 02, 2018 1:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Easiest Way to Upgrade an Existing Portable Installation


I'm thinking he might. So, is there a way to upgrade the portable version if you have no installed copy on said system?

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I'm wondering if he means if you are running a portable version. it will become a lot easier when this next update is released as you can actually download and install portable versions as it knows the path you are running it from, which makes things a whole lot nicer to do.
At the moment, if you have an older version, run it, do a check for updates and the download will end up being done in your default browser, then you can run it as before but you still need to tell it where to overwrite the version you were running. However if that new version is the current rc or master or next snap, you will find that as the download now is handled by the portable copy, it prompts only for install or postpone.
Most of the navigation and browsing for folders is gone, but you can still create new versions or indeed make an installed version from the copy as previously mentioned.
Brian

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Sent: Friday, June 01, 2018 6:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Easiest Way to Upgrade an Existing Portable Installation


Richard,

Well, you don't really update an existing portable copy of NVDA, you just re-create it either during your install of the NVDA update or afterward, following the directions below:

*Creating a Portable Copy of NVDA from the Installed Copy*

1. Open NVDA then the main NVDA menu (NVDA Key+N)

2. Down Arrow to the Tools Submenu, then right Arrow to open the Tools Submenu

3. Down arrow to the Create Portable Copy submenu item and activate.

4. In the Create Portable NVDA dialog, I find it easiest to navigate to the Browse button and activate same to get a Browse dialog to specify the folder where I want the portable copy to be placed. This is almost always a thumb drive or SD Card, but you can create it in a folder on your hard drive and later copy it elsewhere

5. If you wish to copy your current user configuration to the same folder along with the portable copy, then check the Copy current user configuration checkbox

6. If you wish to start the portable copy you're creating immediately after creating it, check the Start the new portable copy after creation checkbox

7. Navigate to the Continue button and activate. Your portable copy will be created in the location you specified in Step 3.



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Re: browse mode

Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
 

I've encountered this sometimes in Chrome.


I just hit [NVDA Key]+[F5] to refresh the screen and Browse mode navigation shortcut keys work as normal.


I use several extensions in Google Chrome to strip away ads and banners. Think the downside to that is the end results isn't past to NVDA fully sometimes, thus I refresh.

On 6/2/2018 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my configurations of no luck can anyone please help me


Possible Bug in 2018RC2: When navigating in Word 2016's backstage view items are repeated twice

David Goldfield
 

Hi.

Not sure if this is a new bug but I don't recall this occurring with 2018.1.1.


Issue: When navigating in Word 2016's backstage view (file menu) each item is announced twice.


Steps to Reproduce

1. Open Word 2016 (Office 365.)

2. Press alt+F to open the backstage view.

3. Press down arrow to navigate items.


Actual Results

Each item is being announced twice. Example: "new new" "open open" 


Expected Results

Each item should be announced once.

--
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Fixing AutoLinks FireFox

David Russell
 

Hello NVDA,

I have not had much time since posting the question about how to fix
things so that when entering URLs they appear as auto-links on
facebook posts in particular. However, Brian guided me in the possible
right direction in suggesting it is a FB thing. FB meaning Facebook.
They have some articles on this at their website that will take some
time to read and understand and determine just where the fix needs to
occur.
I wonder how my sighted peers who are writers are getting links to
post in Facebook? Guess reading the literature will tell me.
Thanks for your interest.

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Re: browse mode

Brennen Kinch
 

can I Skype with Eugene so we can work out some of those things I’m not sure I could write them all down in the email

On Jun 2, 2018, at 8:49 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi


Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus mode
when you go between those modes?


if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when you are
out of focus mode you hear another sound.


if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of focus
and browse modes

then save your settings.


If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?


Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on windows
and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff like that?


By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download the
latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this version of
nvda that might fix it.


If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some thing else
out and maybe narrow it a little.


Gene nz



On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

Sent from my iPhone



Re: browse mode

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

hi


Out of curiosity do you hear sounds or hear browse mode and focus mode
when you go between those modes?


if it is the sound one i think you hear a letter sound and when you are
out of focus mode you hear another sound.


if you want to hear them spoken have a look under the browse mode
settings and uncheck the following box called Audio indication of focus
and browse modes

then save your settings.


If you tab a couple of times do you hear unknown or pane?


Do you also hear it under say the running applications part on windows
and it is not speaking the icons down there and some other stuff like that?


By the way which version of nvda are you running? did you download the
latest nvda 2018.2 rc2 version if so there is a tool in this version of
nvda that might fix it.


If you are not really getting that stuff then we can sus some thing else
out and maybe narrow it a little.


Gene nz

On 6/3/2018 11:50 AM, Brennen Kinch wrote:
no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

Sent from my iPhone


Re: browse mode

Sam Taylor
 

Hi,

What message is returned if you go into a browser, turn input help on, with NVDA+1, and then press H?


On 3/06/2018 09:50, Brennen Kinch wrote:
no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web browsers as well
On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@...> wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

Sent from my iPhone



Re: browse mode

Brennen Kinch
 

no I’m using the full version of NVDA not any snapshots also it looks like I am in the full webpage when I’m doing this so I’m not sure what’s going on and it seems to be happening with all web browsers as well

On Jun 2, 2018, at 5:06 PM, Brennen Kinch <brennenkinch@gmail.com> wrote:

hi has anyone had any trouble with using brows mode in latest versions of NVDA
particularly with using the shortcut keys in brows mode for example when I press the H key for headings it says no checkboxes no edit box no link but it doesn’t say anything about headings
I have tried uninstalling and reinstalling NVDA am resetting my configurations of no luck can anyone please help me

Sent from my iPhone


Reading capitals in NVDA

Sam Taylor
 

Hi all,

I've received the following query from a user and, whilst I don't think the feature exists, I thought I'd raise the query on-list to see if there's a way the following can be accomplished:

In the default setting, JAWS reads capitals the same way NVDA does, by an elevation in pitch, and only when you are spelling a word out letter by letter.  However, JAWS has an additional setting that allows it to indicate capitals by elevating the pitch of any word with a cap in it, whether you are reading by word, line, paragraph or say-all.  If you incorrectly put a capital letter on “morphine” in a medical report, nobody is going to die.  But work for a publisher must be letter-perfect.  You can hardly read an entire article, much less a whole novel, letter by letter just to make sure all the caps are in the right places! 

If anybody knows if, via an add-on, there is such an adjustment to cap reading possible in NVDA and how to accomplish it, I would be grateful if you were to get in touch.


Many thanks

Sam