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Re: Tha Alexa App on the pc

David Griffith
 

Which bitsd are you finding  difficult?

Generally you have to hit the menu button  at the top of the page to open up the tabs   area of the site and then press enter on a tab to go to that part of the App.

It is not my most favorite web site but it does work for me.

 

The Alexa app  on the iPhone also seems  less clunky nowadays.

 

David Griffith

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http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
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https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

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Sent: 06 February 2018 20:19
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Subject: [nvda] Tha Alexa App on the pc

 

This is a very quirky web app. it seems not to work very well for me at

least. Is there anything that can be done to de mystify it for use, or would

that require a front end like twitter and Face book clients, assuming nobody

can persuade Amazon to make it more intuitive in use.

Brian

 

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Re: NVDA question

Alma Rodick
 

Hi Tina,

 

I’d like to know, too.      

 

Alma

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: tina sohl
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 8:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question

 

I keep hearing that there is an OCR option for nvda is it true OCR? And that you can scan a piece of mail or a book with it? If that's true, how does it work and where do you get it I looked and can't find it and only see stuff about recognizing images on the screen like on Facebook or something but then I keep hearing that there is actual OCR so can someone tell me how to find it and if that's true or not thanks

sent from my android

 

On Feb 6, 2018 6:39 PM, "Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io" <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:

thanks

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Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 3:27 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question

 

  1. NVDA-S
  2. 2) there will be an addin coming out soon doing exactley what you ask for

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Dienstag, 6. Februar 2018 19:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question

 

1 how to turn off and on speach mode in NVDA

2 how to have numlock key be off when computer starts using NVDA and start it when u want

 

 

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Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 10:00 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question

 

Hi Kerryn,

 

I copied this from last October's In-Process re using OCR.  Basically:

 

To do OCR with NVDA 2017.4 on Windows 10:

1. Open the PDF file in Adobe Reader.

2. Press NVDA+r. NVDA reports “Recognising”. After a pause, NVDA reports “Result document”.
3. Although visually, the screen hasn’t changed, NVDA has placed the text recognised in the image in a “virtual document”. You can navigate around this just like a document in WordPad. Press NVDA+down arrow (laptop: NVDA+a) to read the whole document from the current point.
4. Press control+home to move to the top of the virtual document.
5. Press down arrow to move through and read the text line by line.
6. When finished, press escape to exit the virtual document.

 

Or, using Windows 7 or 8 OR NVDA earlier than 2017.3:

1. Open the PDF file in Adobe Reader

2. Press NVDA+r. NVDA reports “Recognising”. After a pause, NVDA reports “Done”.
3. Although visually, the screen hasn’t changed, NVDA has placed the text recognised in the image in a “virtual document”. You can navigate around this using the review cursor. Press numpad plus (laptop: NVDA+shift+a) to read the whole document from the current point
4. Press shift+numpad 7 (laptop: NVDA+control+home) to move to the top of the virtual document.
5. Press numpad 9 (laptop: NVDA+down arrow) to move through and read the text line by line.

 

 

With regard to "utilising the mouse arrow", could you please clarify exactly what you are trying to do?  Yes it is possible to do several things either with the mouse, or to the mouse and with further information, I can give you steps for that also.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness@...> wrote:

1 how to use NVDA to do OCR? say for pdf documents

2 with jaws the mouse arrow is utilised, could the mouse arrow be used with NVDA?

hey devin could u contact me privately?

email is

thanks

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Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

 

I like the idea too, along with voice changes or sounds to denote different attributes, such as style changes in word and email, or HTML elements on the web.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor

Error! Filename not specified.
, Microsoft Outlook, Excel, Word, and Powerpoint instructor certified by World Services for the Blind

 

On Feb 4, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

 

This actually reminds me of JFW in that an attachment was detected and for me I had a sliding tone play so I could know what was going on very quickly. I like the idea actually.

 

On Feb 4, 2018, at 3:12 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 

You are assuming a sound would be wanted for every punctuation sign.  And at least in Engglish and many languages, there aren't that many.  Period, question mark, colon, semicolon quotation marks and you might want a sound for ellipsis.  You could have more sounds as well.  You could have sounds in the pronunciation dictionary so you can assign sounds for whatever you want.  The user could even put sound files in the program if he/she doesn't like what is provided.  Now let's see what kinds of sounds we might have  Bell, whistle, door close, door open, chime, and all sorts of variations such as high pitch bell, low pitch bell, car dor, a door such as in a house, and other people may come up with all sorts of other examples.  The world is full of distinctive sounds.  And JAWS has had such a feature for probably over a dedcade so this is not at all a novel idea.

 

Gene

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

 

No maybe not but this would need a lot of sounds and I question how easy it 
might be to come up with enough of them to be easy to recognise.
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From: "Gene" <
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Sent: Saturday, February 03, 2018 1:49 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds


The user would select the sound for the specific punctuation.  There 
wouldn't be preassigned sounds.

Gene
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds


I'm sure you were aware that there was a now dead comedian who made a lot of
money with his monologues where he substituted sounds for Punctuation!
Victor Borge'

Now my one problem with having a mode like this is, given the number of
different marks and their meaning in different circumstances in different
languages, it could need one heck of a  lot of individual sounds to cover
them all. I do know what you are getting at different sorts of brackets and
colons etc, are main candidates, with underscores being also useful.

Maybe this is add on territory ie a programmers version as most of us prefer
not to hear these greater thans etc all over the place, but obviously such
things are important in programming as are brackets and indents etc.
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From: "Tony Malykh" <
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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 10:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds


> Hello all,
>
> Is there a way to substitute punctuation marks with custom sounds? I am a
> developer and often times I have to listen to tongue twisters of
> punctuation marks, like "left bracket right brace left paren .." I wish
> to replace all these parens and brackets with sounds. Is there a way to do
> so in NVDA?
>
> Thanks
> Tony
>
>
>
>





 

 



 

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Re: At a loss

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Normally registration changes are held in a cache for speed so you nearly always need to reboot to get the new data into this.
I have found this on many occasions with these kind of changes. its often different when its purely an app registry entry, but not a system wide one.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Debra Gardner" <dgardner18@satx.rr.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 6:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] At a loss


I have a 64-bit machine. I typed in what was there beginning with the word for and a space then the rest of the string. I copied it to my clipboard and pasted it in. I didn't reboot, only got out with alt f4. I didn't know I was supposed to reboot. I guess I could try it again because there was no immediate change..




From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 11:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] At a loss


Hi




it has to be done ex actually as it is written what you need to type in.




Are you using a 32 bit machine? or a 64 bit machine I would have to check back on the ticket if there was a difference in what you typed.




did you also reboot after doing it?




was the fix from off the accessibilitycentral.net website of mine? and that was the one used?




Gene nz






On 2/7/2018 5:24 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:

I'm using Windows 10 version 1709 build 16299.192. I've tried the string to reregister the dl files, but no go.



From: Gene New Zealand
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] At a loss


Hi




the question probably has been already asked which operating system are you using?




If it says like down in the running applications area saying the icons are unknown or pane or i think it is unknown in the browser and in the context menu not been spoken out etc.



The ticket it might refer to is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807
Have a look down near aug 13 i think it is 2017 and there are other fixes for windows 7,8 and 10.

Up on my website i have only referenced it for the may version of the steps for windows 10

Gene nz



On 2/7/2018 4:34 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:

Well, I've done all I know-except a system restore which I'm having trouble with and also think it won't go back far enough-and I'm out of ideas. NVDA still says unknown at most things and is silent on web pages and context menus. I hate the idea of the very last resort of the advanced recovery of Windows 10 where it would reinstall itself because of having to reinstall everything. My other screen readers have no problem, it's only NVDA.


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Re: At a loss

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I think there was an update to the maths ml or whatever its called that also deregistered stuff.
I do wish companies would make sure their update and uninstallers put back stuff correctly.

Strangely, I still could not find your post on the email list and wondered if there is something in the posts for this that my email provider is deleting.
Strange.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 3:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] At a loss


Do you have mail from today on the list? Instructions were sent to perform the operation that will very likely solve your problem. This is very likely an unregistered dll problem and you probably uninstalled a program that unregistered them. Uninstalling programs in the Microsoft Word suite unregisters them, at least uninstalling Word does. I don't recall the other programs being discussed. As I said earlier, this is such a frequent problem that the tools menu ought to have a utility for reregistering the dlls and information about the problem should be in the user guide and in all general NVDA tutorials.

Gene
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From: Debra Gardner
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] At a loss


Well, I've done all I know-except a system restore which I'm having trouble with and also think it won't go back far enough-and I'm out of ideas. NVDA still says unknown at most things and is silent on web pages and context menus. I hate the idea of the very last resort of the advanced recovery of Windows 10 where it would reinstall itself because of having to reinstall everything. My other screen readers have no problem, it's only NVDA.


Re: questions about fire fox.

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Maybe the windows 7 box is running slower hardware?
I also find the esr the only viable option on windows 7 but for other reasons than speed. Mostly the problems with the download dialogue being buggy to read and the lack of the ability to load in sounds for firefox any more. I'm hoping that by June Firefox will have sorted out a lot of their issues again, though I have to say, I'm not holding my breath. Since there are still other browsers out there based on the older version of Firefox code then I'm not too worried about being on the cutting edge as that is always going to have its issues.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 07, 2018 2:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] questions about fire fox.


Hello I am new here but love the screen reader and do have a windows 10 system and a windows7 box. The question am wondering about is I downloaded the latest version of fire fox it works really well on windows 10 but when I try to use it on my windows 7 box it is quite sluggish why is that, I know it is quite big so that is why on that machine am running the extended support version and that version is not as big as version 58.0 and it runs really nice on that machine and NVDA has no problem. Can some one tell me why are those situations so different? I have been using NVDA since think 2012 it has come a long way. I like the hard work that has been put in to this and hope it continues. I do use Jaws, but NVDA is better since you don't have to deal with authorization numbers and how menny activation
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Re: At a loss

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


In the search box after typing in command prompt when the search result come up in windows i am wondering if fyou might of missed the step where then you hit the applications key on the result then arrow down on to the run as admin or what ever it is called then pressed the enter key. that will then give you admin rights then type in what you copied and pasted or did it?


After it has done its thing then you can close it with the alt key + f4 key, you might have to reboot but before you do check to see if you are still having the same problems I think it fixes it before hand.


it was a while back when i done it to a couple of machines.


Gene nz



On 2/7/2018 7:00 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
I have a 64-bit machine.  I typed in what was there beginning with the word for and a space then the rest of the string.  I copied it to my clipboard and pasted it in.  I didn't reboot, only got out with alt f4.  I didn't know I was supposed to reboot.  I guess I could try it again   because  there was no immediate change..
 
 

Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] At a loss

Hi


it has to be done ex actually as it is written what you need to type in.


Are you using a 32 bit machine? or a 64 bit machine I would have to check back on the ticket if there was a difference in what you typed.


did you also reboot after doing it?


was the fix from off the accessibilitycentral.net website of mine? and that was the one used?


Gene nz



On 2/7/2018 5:24 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
I'm using Windows 10 version 1709 build 16299.192.  I've tried the string to reregister the dl files, but no go. 
 

Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] At a loss

Hi


the question probably has been already asked which operating system are you using?


If it says like down in the running applications area saying the icons are unknown or pane or i think it is unknown in the browser and in the context menu not been spoken out etc.


The ticket it might refer to is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807
Have a look down near aug 13 i think it is 2017 and there are other fixes for windows 7,8 and 10.

Up on my website i have only referenced it for the may version of the steps for windows 10

Gene nz


On 2/7/2018 4:34 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
Well, I've done all I know-except a system restore  which I'm having trouble with  and also think it won't go back far enough-and I'm out of ideas.  NVDA still says unknown at most things  and is silent on web pages and context menus.  I hate the idea of the very last resort of the advanced recovery of Windows 10 where it would reinstall itself  because of having to reinstall everything.  My other screen readers have no problem, it's only NVDA.

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--
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--
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Re: NVDA next snapshot and an extra sound

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That is espeak though, not the synth you mention.
That should not cause the error sound.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA next snapshot and an extra sound


Dear here is the log:

file 'C:\Users\inamuddin\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\voiceDicts.v1\espeak\espeak-English (Great Britain).dic' not found. file 'C:\Users\inamuddin\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\voiceDicts.v1\espeak\espeak-English (Great Britain).dic' not found.
Please help me fixing the error!
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Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:56 AM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA next snapshot and an extra sound

I am using.
NVDA version next-14835,560ed22a

And hear nothing but of course it could be you have fallen foul of the new
postpone update code error in the snap a couple previous. I had to do a
manual update to the one before the above then it updated ok.

If its not that then maybe an add on is being bad on the new snap. Try
restarting with add ons disabled then you can put them on or take them off
till it goes away, assuming of course it did!

Brian


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Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 3:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA next snapshot and an extra sound


Dear friends, I’m using NVDA next snapshot version 14835, 560ed22a whenever
I start it, I hear an extra sound which is Bing sound.
Please let me know if it is the indication of some sort of error?
If I’m getting error every time, then I should stop using that snapshot
and start using stable NVDA.
I hope that my question will be entertained swiftly.
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Re: NVDA next snapshot and an extra sound

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You may need to talk to the vendor and get an updated copy or perhaps find some left over bit of the old install which might be doing the dirty deed.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA next snapshot and an extra sound


Dear friend, first of all thanks for guidance.
I discovered that vocalizer voice is creating the problem.
I removed it several time and reinstalled it but nothing happened so I finally disabled the driver and the voice both!
Now please help me what can I do!
I just wanted to correct the issue!
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Sent: Wednesday, February 7, 2018 12:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA next snapshot and an extra sound

I am using.
NVDA version next-14835,560ed22a

And hear nothing but of course it could be you have fallen foul of the new
postpone update code error in the snap a couple previous. I had to do a
manual update to the one before the above then it updated ok.

If its not that then maybe an add on is being bad on the new snap. Try
restarting with add ons disabled then you can put them on or take them off
till it goes away, assuming of course it did!

Brian


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Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 3:28 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA next snapshot and an extra sound


Dear friends, I’m using NVDA next snapshot version 14835, 560ed22a whenever
I start it, I hear an extra sound which is Bing sound.
Please let me know if it is the indication of some sort of error?
If I’m getting error every time, then I should stop using that snapshot
and start using stable NVDA.
I hope that my question will be entertained swiftly.
With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:
Charlsdarwin1


Arguing with a woman is reading software license agreement.
At the end, you have to ignore everything and clic I agree.
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Re: NVDA Next Snapshot And An Extra Sound

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To be honest the speed of it seems to depend on what is crashed. I use 7 and when that next snap crashed a few days ago leaving many bits running but stuffed it was incredibly slow even though the processes appeared not to be taking a lot of processor time. I think its been lying about resource use for many years, particularly on multi core processors, or maybe there is just a problem in these processors that makes it seem to be slow, I'm not sure.
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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Next Snapshot And An Extra Sound


Hmmm I'd prefur if I could have a choice of having the error on or not in case something does mean something.

Saying that, it appears win10 task manager in 17.09 is quite slow on my new ssd laptop I am using with my aunt, nothing else go to task manager and its just really slow starting sometimes the system acts like its locking, this seems only to be a major issue if the process list is open though.

I don't use it enough but to be honest if its like that I may have to find another task manager I can use instead of windows one.

Maybe someone can try this and report this, I rarely need task manager but its usefull if something crashes.




On 7/02/2018 9:08 a.m., Gene wrote:
If you use NVdA snapshots, the error sound is left on so people will know when an error occurs and can report it if they want. the error will be in the log. If you don't want to report it, you can just ignore it if the program works correctly. Some errors don't affect program performance.

Versions of the program that are not for evaluation, the production release versions, have the error sound turned off so users won't be bothered by the sound if errors that don't mean anything occur. If an error occurs that means something, you'll know it because NVDA won't work properly.

Gene
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Subject: [nvda] NVDA Next Snapshot And An Extra Sound


Dear friends, as I have stated that whenever I start NVDA, just before the dialogue of task bar, it gives me an extra sound.

I just wonder what is the indication of this sound?

The matter of fact is that since 2010 when I started to learn computer, I have been using JAWS.

Since launch of latest tutorial of Joseph Lee, I have become the fan of NVDA.

Secondly my Lisence of JAWS 2018 will expire in October this year and then I will not be able to have another JAWS lisence because of financial reasons, therefore I have time from now to October to learn and adopt the habit of switching over from JAWS to NVDA.

Because I’m new to NVDA, that’s why this extra sound disturbs me a lot.

The reason is so simple that is my mind is a kind of mind when a question is created, I never get rest until the answer of that question is given to it.

I therefore hope that my question will be dealt with swiftly!

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Re: Visual Studio vs Visual Studio Code

Edhoari Setiyoso
 

Hi,

Visual Studio Code is very much accessible with NVDA and so does Visual Studio.

Depends on what you're working on, they have different purpose. Visual Studio Vode is more of Text Editor while Visual Studio is complete IDE.

Best Regards

Edhoari Setiyoso

On 02/07/2018 09:32 AM, Carlos wrote:
Hello All:

    Question for those here on list who are programmers.

    Which is most accessible with NVDA?  Visual Studio or Visual studio code?

    Thank You! In advance for reading/responding to my question!!!


Re: At a loss

Debra Gardner
 

I have a 64-bit machine.  I typed in what was there beginning with the word for and a space then the rest of the string.  I copied it to my clipboard and pasted it in.  I didn't reboot, only got out with alt f4.  I didn't know I was supposed to reboot.  I guess I could try it again   because  there was no immediate change..
 
 

Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] At a loss

Hi


it has to be done ex actually as it is written what you need to type in.


Are you using a 32 bit machine? or a 64 bit machine I would have to check back on the ticket if there was a difference in what you typed.


did you also reboot after doing it?


was the fix from off the accessibilitycentral.net website of mine? and that was the one used?


Gene nz



On 2/7/2018 5:24 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
I'm using Windows 10 version 1709 build 16299.192.  I've tried the string to reregister the dl files, but no go. 
 

Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] At a loss

Hi


the question probably has been already asked which operating system are you using?


If it says like down in the running applications area saying the icons are unknown or pane or i think it is unknown in the browser and in the context menu not been spoken out etc.


The ticket it might refer to is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807
Have a look down near aug 13 i think it is 2017 and there are other fixes for windows 7,8 and 10.

Up on my website i have only referenced it for the may version of the steps for windows 10

Gene nz


On 2/7/2018 4:34 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
Well, I've done all I know-except a system restore  which I'm having trouble with  and also think it won't go back far enough-and I'm out of ideas.  NVDA still says unknown at most things  and is silent on web pages and context menus.  I hate the idea of the very last resort of the advanced recovery of Windows 10 where it would reinstall itself  because of having to reinstall everything.  My other screen readers have no problem, it's only NVDA.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

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Re: At a loss

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


it has to be done ex actually as it is written what you need to type in.


Are you using a 32 bit machine? or a 64 bit machine I would have to check back on the ticket if there was a difference in what you typed.


did you also reboot after doing it?


was the fix from off the accessibilitycentral.net website of mine? and that was the one used?


Gene nz



On 2/7/2018 5:24 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
I'm using Windows 10 version 1709 build 16299.192.  I've tried the string to reregister the dl files, but no go. 
 

Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] At a loss

Hi


the question probably has been already asked which operating system are you using?


If it says like down in the running applications area saying the icons are unknown or pane or i think it is unknown in the browser and in the context menu not been spoken out etc.


The ticket it might refer to is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807
Have a look down near aug 13 i think it is 2017 and there are other fixes for windows 7,8 and 10.

Up on my website i have only referenced it for the may version of the steps for windows 10

Gene nz


On 2/7/2018 4:34 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
Well, I've done all I know-except a system restore  which I'm having trouble with  and also think it won't go back far enough-and I'm out of ideas.  NVDA still says unknown at most things  and is silent on web pages and context menus.  I hate the idea of the very last resort of the advanced recovery of Windows 10 where it would reinstall itself  because of having to reinstall everything.  My other screen readers have no problem, it's only NVDA.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: At a loss

Debra Gardner
 

I'm using Windows 10 version 1709 build 16299.192.  I've tried the string to reregister the dl files, but no go. 
 

Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 10:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] At a loss

Hi


the question probably has been already asked which operating system are you using?


If it says like down in the running applications area saying the icons are unknown or pane or i think it is unknown in the browser and in the context menu not been spoken out etc.


The ticket it might refer to is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807
Have a look down near aug 13 i think it is 2017 and there are other fixes for windows 7,8 and 10.

Up on my website i have only referenced it for the may version of the steps for windows 10

Gene nz


On 2/7/2018 4:34 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
Well, I've done all I know-except a system restore  which I'm having trouble with  and also think it won't go back far enough-and I'm out of ideas.  NVDA still says unknown at most things  and is silent on web pages and context menus.  I hate the idea of the very last resort of the advanced recovery of Windows 10 where it would reinstall itself  because of having to reinstall everything.  My other screen readers have no problem, it's only NVDA.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: At a loss

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


the question probably has been already asked which operating system are you using?


If it says like down in the running applications area saying the icons are unknown or pane or i think it is unknown in the browser and in the context menu not been spoken out etc.


The ticket it might refer to is https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807
Have a look down near aug 13 i think it is 2017 and there are other fixes for windows 7,8 and 10.

Up on my website i have only referenced it for the may version of the steps for windows 10

Gene nz


On 2/7/2018 4:34 PM, Debra Gardner wrote:
Well, I've done all I know-except a system restore  which I'm having trouble with  and also think it won't go back far enough-and I'm out of ideas.  NVDA still says unknown at most things  and is silent on web pages and context menus.  I hate the idea of the very last resort of the advanced recovery of Windows 10 where it would reinstall itself  because of having to reinstall everything.  My other screen readers have no problem, it's only NVDA.

--
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Re: NVDA question

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi,

 

I think the OCR that comes with NVDA is just for images. You'd have to have a separate program for scanning things like mail and books.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of tina sohl
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 6:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question

 

I keep hearing that there is an OCR option for nvda is it true OCR? And that you can scan a piece of mail or a book with it? If that's true, how does it work and where do you get it I looked and can't find it and only see stuff about recognizing images on the screen like on Facebook or something but then I keep hearing that there is actual OCR so can someone tell me how to find it and if that's true or not thanks

sent from my android

 

On Feb 6, 2018 6:39 PM, "Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io" <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:

thanks

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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question

 

  1. NVDA-S
  2. 2) there will be an addin coming out soon doing exactley what you ask for

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Dienstag, 6. Februar 2018 19:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question

 

1 how to turn off and on speach mode in NVDA

2 how to have numlock key be off when computer starts using NVDA and start it when u want

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 10:00 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question

 

Hi Kerryn,

 

I copied this from last October's In-Process re using OCR.  Basically:

 

To do OCR with NVDA 2017.4 on Windows 10:

1. Open the PDF file in Adobe Reader.

2. Press NVDA+r. NVDA reports “Recognising”. After a pause, NVDA reports “Result document”.
3. Although visually, the screen hasn’t changed, NVDA has placed the text recognised in the image in a “virtual document”. You can navigate around this just like a document in WordPad. Press NVDA+down arrow (laptop: NVDA+a) to read the whole document from the current point.
4. Press control+home to move to the top of the virtual document.
5. Press down arrow to move through and read the text line by line.
6. When finished, press escape to exit the virtual document.

 

Or, using Windows 7 or 8 OR NVDA earlier than 2017.3:

1. Open the PDF file in Adobe Reader

2. Press NVDA+r. NVDA reports “Recognising”. After a pause, NVDA reports “Done”.
3. Although visually, the screen hasn’t changed, NVDA has placed the text recognised in the image in a “virtual document”. You can navigate around this using the review cursor. Press numpad plus (laptop: NVDA+shift+a) to read the whole document from the current point
4. Press shift+numpad 7 (laptop: NVDA+control+home) to move to the top of the virtual document.
5. Press numpad 9 (laptop: NVDA+down arrow) to move through and read the text line by line.

 

 

With regard to "utilising the mouse arrow", could you please clarify exactly what you are trying to do?  Yes it is possible to do several things either with the mouse, or to the mouse and with further information, I can give you steps for that also.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness@...> wrote:

1 how to use NVDA to do OCR? say for pdf documents

2 with jaws the mouse arrow is utilised, could the mouse arrow be used with NVDA?

hey devin could u contact me privately?

email is

thanks

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

 

I like the idea too, along with voice changes or sounds to denote different attributes, such as style changes in word and email, or HTML elements on the web.

Devin Prater
Assistive Technology Instructor

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On Feb 4, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

 

This actually reminds me of JFW in that an attachment was detected and for me I had a sliding tone play so I could know what was going on very quickly. I like the idea actually.

 

On Feb 4, 2018, at 3:12 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 

You are assuming a sound would be wanted for every punctuation sign.  And at least in Engglish and many languages, there aren't that many.  Period, question mark, colon, semicolon quotation marks and you might want a sound for ellipsis.  You could have more sounds as well.  You could have sounds in the pronunciation dictionary so you can assign sounds for whatever you want.  The user could even put sound files in the program if he/she doesn't like what is provided.  Now let's see what kinds of sounds we might have  Bell, whistle, door close, door open, chime, and all sorts of variations such as high pitch bell, low pitch bell, car dor, a door such as in a house, and other people may come up with all sorts of other examples.  The world is full of distinctive sounds.  And JAWS has had such a feature for probably over a dedcade so this is not at all a novel idea.

 

Gene

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Sent: Sunday, February 04, 2018 2:54 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

 

No maybe not but this would need a lot of sounds and I question how easy it 
might be to come up with enough of them to be easy to recognise.
 Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds


The user would select the sound for the specific punctuation.  There 
wouldn't be preassigned sounds.

Gene
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I'm sure you were aware that there was a now dead comedian who made a lot of
money with his monologues where he substituted sounds for Punctuation!
Victor Borge'

Now my one problem with having a mode like this is, given the number of
different marks and their meaning in different circumstances in different
languages, it could need one heck of a  lot of individual sounds to cover
them all. I do know what you are getting at different sorts of brackets and
colons etc, are main candidates, with underscores being also useful.

Maybe this is add on territory ie a programmers version as most of us prefer
not to hear these greater thans etc all over the place, but obviously such
things are important in programming as are brackets and indents etc.
 Brian

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Sent: Friday, February 02, 2018 10:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds


> Hello all,
>
> Is there a way to substitute punctuation marks with custom sounds? I am a
> developer and often times I have to listen to tongue twisters of
> punctuation marks, like "left bracket right brace left paren .." I wish
> to replace all these parens and brackets with sounds. Is there a way to do
> so in NVDA?
>
> Thanks
> Tony
>
>
>
>





 

 



 

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Re: At a loss

Gene
 

Do you have mail from today on the list?  Instructions were sent to perform the operation that will very likely solve your problem.  This is very likely an unregistered dll problem and you probably uninstalled a program that unregistered them.  Uninstalling programs in the Microsoft Word suite unregisters them, at least uninstalling Word does.  I don't recall the other programs being discussed.  As I said earlier, this is such a frequent problem that the tools menu ought to have a utility for reregistering the dlls and information about the problem should be in the user guide and in all general NVDA tutorials.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 06, 2018 9:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] At a loss

Well, I've done all I know-except a system restore  which I'm having trouble with  and also think it won't go back far enough-and I'm out of ideas.  NVDA still says unknown at most things  and is silent on web pages and context menus.  I hate the idea of the very last resort of the advanced recovery of Windows 10 where it would reinstall itself  because of having to reinstall everything.  My other screen readers have no problem, it's only NVDA.


At a loss

Debra Gardner
 

Well, I've done all I know-except a system restore  which I'm having trouble with  and also think it won't go back far enough-and I'm out of ideas.  NVDA still says unknown at most things  and is silent on web pages and context menus.  I hate the idea of the very last resort of the advanced recovery of Windows 10 where it would reinstall itself  because of having to reinstall everything.  My other screen readers have no problem, it's only NVDA.


questions about fire fox.

Sue J. Ward
 

Hello I am new here but love the screen reader and do have a windows 10 system and a windows7 box. The question am wondering about is I downloaded the latest version of fire fox it works really well on windows 10 but when I try to use it on my windows 7 box it is quite sluggish why is that, I know it is quite big so that is why on that machine am running the extended support version and that version is not as big as version 58.0 and it runs really nice on that machine and NVDA has no problem. Can some one tell me why are those situations so different? I have been using NVDA since think 2012 it has come a long way. I like the hard work that has been put in to this and hope it continues. I do use Jaws, but NVDA is better since you don't have to deal with authorization numbers and how menny activation
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Re: Visual Studio vs Visual Studio Code

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  I don't know if an Addon for vs code exists, but I use visual studio itself with the vs addon and it works great.  I think that visual studio code is more for web programming, and maybe others on this list can share their experience with that program with you, but I personally used vs extensively with NVDA without major issues.  Cheers!

On 7/2/2018 10:32 AM, Carlos wrote:
Hello All:

    Question for those here on list who are programmers.

    Which is most accessible with NVDA?  Visual Studio or Visual studio code?

    Thank You! In advance for reading/responding to my question!!!


Re: NVDA question

tina sohl <tinabir80@...>
 

I keep hearing that there is an OCR option for nvda is it true OCR? And that you can scan a piece of mail or a book with it? If that's true, how does it work and where do you get it I looked and can't find it and only see stuff about recognizing images on the screen like on Facebook or something but then I keep hearing that there is actual OCR so can someone tell me how to find it and if that's true or not thanks

sent from my android


On Feb 6, 2018 6:39 PM, "Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io" <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
thanks
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 6, 2018 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question

  1. NVDA-S
  2. 2) there will be an addin coming out soon doing exactley what you ask for

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Dienstag, 6. Februar 2018 19:20
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question

 

1 how to turn off and on speach mode in NVDA

2 how to have numlock key be off when computer starts using NVDA and start it when u want

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 05, 2018 10:00 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA question

 

Hi Kerryn,

 

I copied this from last October's In-Process re using OCR.  Basically:

 

To do OCR with NVDA 2017.4 on Windows 10:

1. Open the PDF file in Adobe Reader.

2. Press NVDA+r. NVDA reports “Recognising”. After a pause, NVDA reports “Result document”.
3. Although visually, the screen hasn’t changed, NVDA has placed the text recognised in the image in a “virtual document”. You can navigate around this just like a document in WordPad. Press NVDA+down arrow (laptop: NVDA+a) to read the whole document from the current point.
4. Press control+home to move to the top of the virtual document.
5. Press down arrow to move through and read the text line by line.
6. When finished, press escape to exit the virtual document.



Or, using Windows 7 or 8 OR NVDA earlier than 2017.3:

1. Open the PDF file in Adobe Reader

2. Press NVDA+r. NVDA reports “Recognising”. After a pause, NVDA reports “Done”.
3. Although visually, the screen hasn’t changed, NVDA has placed the text recognised in the image in a “virtual document”. You can navigate around this using the review cursor. Press numpad plus (laptop: NVDA+shift+a) to read the whole document from the current point
4. Press shift+numpad 7 (laptop: NVDA+control+home) to move to the top of the virtual document.
5. Press numpad 9 (laptop: NVDA+down arrow) to move through and read the text line by line.





With regard to "utilising the mouse arrow", could you please clarify exactly what you are trying to do?  Yes it is possible to do several things either with the mouse, or to the mouse and with further information, I can give you steps for that also.



Kind regards



Quentin.

 

On Tue, Feb 6, 2018 at 11:17 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness@...> wrote:

1 how to use NVDA to do OCR? say for pdf documents

2 with jaws the mouse arrow is utilised, could the mouse arrow be used with NVDA?

hey devin could u contact me privately?

email is

thanks

----- Original Message -----

From: Devin Prater

Sent: Sunday, February 4, 2018 6:18 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Substitute punctuation marks with sounds

 

I like the idea too, along with voice changes or sounds to denote different attributes, such as style changes in word and email, or HTML elements on the web.

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On Feb 4, 2018, at 2:21 PM, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

 

This actually reminds me of JFW in that an attachment was detected and for me I had a sliding tone play so I could know what was going on very quickly. I like the idea actually.



On Feb 4, 2018, at 3:12 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

 

You are assuming a sound would be wanted for every punctuation sign.  And at least in Engglish and many languages, there aren't that many.  Period, question mark, colon, semicolon quotation marks and you might want a sound for ellipsis.  You could have more sounds as well.  You could have sounds in the pronunciation dictionary so you can assign sounds for whatever you want.  The user could even put sound files in the program if he/she doesn't like what is provided.  Now let's see what kinds of sounds we might have  Bell, whistle, door close, door open, chime, and all sorts of variations such as high pitch bell, low pitch bell, car dor, a door such as in a house, and other people may come up with all sorts of other examples.  The world is full of distinctive sounds.  And JAWS has had such a feature for probably over a dedcade so this is not at all a novel idea.

 

Gene

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No maybe not but this would need a lot of sounds and I question how easy it 
might be to come up with enough of them to be easy to recognise.
 Brian

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The user would select the sound for the specific punctuation.  There 
wouldn't be preassigned sounds.

Gene
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I'm sure you were aware that there was a now dead comedian who made a lot of
money with his monologues where he substituted sounds for Punctuation!
Victor Borge'

Now my one problem with having a mode like this is, given the number of
different marks and their meaning in different circumstances in different
languages, it could need one heck of a  lot of individual sounds to cover
them all. I do know what you are getting at different sorts of brackets and
colons etc, are main candidates, with underscores being also useful.

Maybe this is add on territory ie a programmers version as most of us prefer
not to hear these greater thans etc all over the place, but obviously such
things are important in programming as are brackets and indents etc.
 Brian

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> Hello all,
>
> Is there a way to substitute punctuation marks with custom sounds? I am a
> developer and often times I have to listen to tongue twisters of
> punctuation marks, like "left bracket right brace left paren .." I wish
> to replace all these parens and brackets with sounds. Is there a way to do
> so in NVDA?
>
> Thanks
> Tony
>
>
>
>






 

 



 

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