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Re: Getting rid of beeping sound

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


It is a combo box use the up arrow key to go to off then tab down to ok then press the enter key.


The other options under that will be speak, speak and beep, beep and off.


Gene nz



On 1/22/2018 9:38 AM, Howard Traxler wrote:
So you said:
Object Presentation, Progress bar output.
But that don't tell us how to do anything about it.----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Spivey" <tspivey@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting rid of beeping sound


Object Presentation, Progress bar output.
On 1/21/2018 7:05 AM, Morne van der Merwe wrote:
Hello listers,



The latest version of NVDA on a



Windows 10 machine.



The beeping sound while downloading something can be very helpful, but I
would like to get rid of it while listening to something on YouTube.
There is a beeping sound as I’m listening to the YouTube clip. Is there
a way to switch it off?



Thanks in advance.



Kind regards

Morne










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Re: Getting rid of beeping sound

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

So you said:
Object Presentation, Progress bar output.

But that don't tell us how to do anything about it.----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler Spivey" <tspivey@pcdesk.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting rid of beeping sound


Object Presentation, Progress bar output.
On 1/21/2018 7:05 AM, Morne van der Merwe wrote:
Hello listers,



The latest version of NVDA on a



Windows 10 machine.



The beeping sound while downloading something can be very helpful, but I
would like to get rid of it while listening to something on YouTube.
There is a beeping sound as I’m listening to the YouTube clip. Is there
a way to switch it off?



Thanks in advance.



Kind regards

Morne


Re: Getting rid of beeping sound

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


use the nvda key + letter U to toggle it to off.


Gene nz

On 1/22/2018 4:05 AM, Morne van der Merwe wrote:

Hello listers,

 

The latest version of NVDA on a

 

Windows 10 machine.

 

The beeping sound while downloading something can be very helpful, but I would like to get rid of it while listening to something on YouTube. There is a beeping sound as I’m listening to the YouTube clip. Is there a way to switch it off?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kind regards

Morne


--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questions for NVDA

Lenron
 

It would be quite nice to have something like this describe a picture.

On 1/21/18, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
The description feature for Windows 10 sounds interesting. Please can you
post a link where we can read more about it?

Microsoft is not well known for releasing its software under open source
licences (it has done so to some extent in recent years, but it's the
exception rather than the rule), therefore I think it unlikely, but any
announcement from Microsoft about the feature itself would be the definitive

source of information.

I don't understand your question "Can not we do this with the same DLL as we

do in the same OCR?" - please could you rephrase it?

Similarly, what does "can we deal with a cloud system?" mean? Any computer

which is online can access cloud computing resources. What were you asking

about specifically?


Antony.

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 17:30:50, Shasa wrote:

Microsoft has introduced a description feature that allows Windows 10 to
recognize objects, images, and other non-resolvable content on its
screen reader.
Is this open source by Microsoft? Can not we do this with the same DLL
as we do in the same OCR?

Finally, Python has great capabilities in the visual part. Legends
emerged especially with the development of artificial intelligence. Can
we deal with a cloud system?
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Re: Getting rid of beeping sound

Chris
 

Try nvda+U to cycle through the beep options

 

 

From: Morne van der Merwe
Sent: 21 January 2018 15:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Getting rid of beeping sound

 

Hello listers,

 

The latest version of NVDA on a

 

Windows 10 machine.

 

The beeping sound while downloading something can be very helpful, but I would like to get rid of it while listening to something on YouTube. There is a beeping sound as I’m listening to the YouTube clip. Is there a way to switch it off?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kind regards

Morne

 


Re: Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questions for NVDA

Antony Stone
 

The description feature for Windows 10 sounds interesting. Please can you
post a link where we can read more about it?

Microsoft is not well known for releasing its software under open source
licences (it has done so to some extent in recent years, but it's the
exception rather than the rule), therefore I think it unlikely, but any
announcement from Microsoft about the feature itself would be the definitive
source of information.

I don't understand your question "Can not we do this with the same DLL as we
do in the same OCR?" - please could you rephrase it?

Similarly, what does "can we deal with a cloud system?" mean? Any computer
which is online can access cloud computing resources. What were you asking
about specifically?


Antony.

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 17:30:50, Shasa wrote:

Microsoft has introduced a description feature that allows Windows 10 to
recognize objects, images, and other non-resolvable content on its
screen reader.
Is this open source by Microsoft? Can not we do this with the same DLL
as we do in the same OCR?

Finally, Python has great capabilities in the visual part. Legends
emerged especially with the development of artificial intelligence. Can
we deal with a cloud system?
--
If you were ploughing a field, which would you rather use - two strong oxen or
1024 chickens?

- Seymour Cray, pioneer of supercomputing

Please reply to the list;
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Microsoft's object recognition technology and Cloud questions for NVDA

Shasa
 

Developer friends and all NVDA users, greetings.

Microsoft has introduced a description feature that allows Windows 10 to recognize objects, images, and other non-resolvable content on its screen reader.
Is this open source by Microsoft? Can not we do this with the same DLL as we do in the same OCR?

Finally, Python has great capabilities in the visual part. Legends emerged especially with the development of artificial intelligence. Can we deal with a cloud system?


Re: Getting rid of beeping sound

Tyler Spivey
 

Object Presentation, Progress bar output.

On 1/21/2018 7:05 AM, Morne van der Merwe wrote:
Hello listers,

 

The latest version of NVDA on a

 

Windows 10 machine.

 

The beeping sound while downloading something can be very helpful, but I
would like to get rid of it while listening to something on YouTube.
There is a beeping sound as I’m listening to the YouTube clip. Is there
a way to switch it off?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kind regards

Morne


Getting rid of beeping sound

Morne van der Merwe
 

Hello listers,

 

The latest version of NVDA on a

 

Windows 10 machine.

 

The beeping sound while downloading something can be very helpful, but I would like to get rid of it while listening to something on YouTube. There is a beeping sound as I’m listening to the YouTube clip. Is there a way to switch it off?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kind regards

Morne


Re: About nvda add-on

Narayan <krishnashree1221@...>
 

Thank you sir for your quick reply, i will try this one. Best regards. Shree

On 21 January 2018 6:08:51 PM "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/devDocs/devDocs.en.html would be a good start.

Antony.

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 13:34:34, Narayan wrote:

Hi friends, I want to know about writing nvda add -on.. how can I write
script for nvda ad-on. what is the basic knowledge for this. if anyone can
answer this topic. please help me what instruction should I get to prepare
a nvda addon. thanks in advance. Shree.
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Re: firefox 58

mk360
 

El 21/01/2018 a las 11:00, Don H escribió:
After all the talk about firefox 58 I went to www.mozilla.com to download it.  When I hit enter on the download firefox and then installed it I was still on firefox 57.0.4  The only thing that changed was I am now running the 64 bit version versus the 32 bit version of firefox 57.



firefox 58

Don H
 

After all the talk about firefox 58 I went to www.mozilla.com to download it. When I hit enter on the download firefox and then installed it I was still on firefox 57.0.4 The only thing that changed was I am now running the 64 bit version versus the 32 bit version of firefox 57.


Re: fire fox 58 is out

mk360
 

Is not linked on the site, but you can download it searching on the mirror download under the branch "release".

El 21/01/2018 a las 4:50, enes sarıbaş escribió:
it is not out.  It is still in beta. Mozilla's website does not state it under release notes for stable versions.


On 1/21/2018 10:36 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:
I couldn’t find the Firefox 58 when I went to do the update it’s stayed at 57. Whatever it’s up to I am using 64 bit Firefox so that might be and issue


Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Jan 2018, at 2:04 pm, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:

I just installed it too and it is pretty fast.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 7:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] fire fox 58 is out

Hay I just want to tell you all I am using fire fox 58 full version and it is a lot better than fire fox 57.  Web pages load much faster and all web sites I went to work very well.  Not all add ons are supported yet butt I think you all should give it a try because it is very fast.













Re: A note to all xp users here.

Gene
 

Clamwin is poorly reviewed and it gets such poor ratings that I wouldn't bother unless there is no alternative.  Old versions of Avast still run in XP and, while not nearly as accessible as desirable, can be used.  The new version looked to me not to be accessible enough to use.  I won't go into Avast more now.  I will if people are interested.  You can still get old versions. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A note to all xp users here.

ClanWin does indeed run under (to quote from their website
http://www.clamwin.com ): "Microsoft Windows 10 / 8 / 7 / Vista / XP / Me /
2000 / 98 and Windows Server 2012, 2008 and 2003".

However (also quoting from their website): "Please note that ClamWin Free
Antivirus does not include an on-access real-time scanner. You need to
manually scan a file in order to detect a virus or spyware."

This in my opinion makes it rather less useful than many other anti-virus
scanners, however if your choice is limited to whatever will still run under
XP, then maybe it's a good enough compromise.


Antony.

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 13:31:13, Josh Kennedy wrote:

> maybe clamWin will work? it is free antivirus.

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Re: A note to all xp users here.

Gene
 

Clamwin gets very poor ratings in reviews.
 
Gene.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A note to all xp users here.

maybe clamWin will work? it is free antivirus.


Re: About nvda add-on

Antony Stone
 

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 13:34:34, Narayan wrote:

Hi friends, I want to know about writing nvda add -on.. how can I write
script for nvda ad-on. what is the basic knowledge for this. if anyone can
answer this topic. please help me what instruction should I get to prepare
a nvda addon. thanks in advance. Shree.
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If the human brain were so simple that we could understand it,
we'd be so simple that we couldn't.

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Re: A note to all xp users here.

Antony Stone
 

ClanWin does indeed run under (to quote from their website
http://www.clamwin.com ): "Microsoft Windows 10 / 8 / 7 / Vista / XP / Me /
2000 / 98 and Windows Server 2012, 2008 and 2003".

However (also quoting from their website): "Please note that ClamWin Free
Antivirus does not include an on-access real-time scanner. You need to
manually scan a file in order to detect a virus or spyware."

This in my opinion makes it rather less useful than many other anti-virus
scanners, however if your choice is limited to whatever will still run under
XP, then maybe it's a good enough compromise.


Antony.

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 13:31:13, Josh Kennedy wrote:

maybe clamWin will work? it is free antivirus.
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It is also possible that putting the birds in a laboratory setting
inadvertently renders them relatively incompetent.

- Daniel C Dennett

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About nvda add-on

Narayan <krishnashree1221@...>
 

Hi friends, I want to know about writing nvda add -on.. how can I write script for nvda ad-on. what is the basic knowledge for this. if anyone can answer this topic. please help me what instruction should I get to prepare a nvda addon. thanks in advance. Shree.


Re: A note to all xp users here.

Josh Kennedy
 

maybe clamWin will work? it is free antivirus.


Re: New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Sandra Pilz
 

Hi Daniele and all,


When you are in the application you work in and press ctrl+backspace on the normal keyboard, if one is available, does NVDA speak the word that has been deleted?

ctrl+backspace usually deletes the last word and in most applications NVDA will speak the word it deletes.


Maybe if this works, you could assign ctrl+backspace to a keystroke on your keyboard? Of course, this would mean that you always delete the entire word and not just the last sylable you wrote, but maybe it would be ok to write the entire word again?


Maybe you have thought of ctrl+backspace already, unfortunately I am not a developer so can't really help with a solution.


Best


Sandra


Am 16.01.2018 um 20:09 schrieb Didier Colle:

Dear Danielle,


Thanks for the info.


From a programming point of view it is a pity only a series of backspaces is sent....


Given the fact we are speaking about steno, and steno is all about speed, I have following question to you:

would it be acceptable to you that individual letters are completely spoken out when they are deleted? Not very ideal from a speed perscpective (user experience), but from a programming point of view perhaps a reliable solution could be worked out.

Otherwise, I guess we would need a mechanism to detect when the sequence of generated backspaces is over (and not waiting for the next key stroke): my first simplistic idea would be using a hold-off timer going off, but that is probably not a very reliable solution. (if I remember well from your video with steno you do 300 wpm or 5 words per sec or 200 millisec per word, counting 3 or 4 syllables per word means max 50 millisec per syllable or keystroke... that is pretty tight).

An alternative would be to create a plover plugin to be plugged in into nvda, that creates a backdoor open to plover in order to let plover instruct nvda to speak the complete syllable being deleted; obviously the plover code should be modified to give nvda this instrucction via this backdoor. At the positive side, I believe it would work more reliably and simpler to implement; at the negative side, I dislike this option as it requires code on both the nvda and plover side and I am not in favour of creating backdoors.


Please let me know what your opinion as user on the above question is / what behavior you exactly would expect.


Kind regards,


Didier



On 16/01/2018 18:30, Daniele Casarola wrote:
Sorry Joseph Lee, I don't have your contact, I can't ask to add you CC. Can you leave it here? Thanks.

Thank you Didier Colle for your question.

This is the answer of one of the Plover developer:

"When undoing a translation, a series of backspace events are sent. Really, just like a user would do when deleting some previously typed text; doesn't this use case work with NVDA?"

So, it seems to be as you supposed.

About your second question.
As I wrote above, to have audio feedback when I press the "delete" button, the option  “Handle keys from other applications” should be on.
NVDA reads only one letter of the group of letters I delete, it seems to be only the first or the second letter.

For example I type "telefono" using 3 strokes: te, le, fono.
To delete the word I should press the "delete" button 3 times of cours. The first time I hear the letter "f", the second time "l" and the third the letter "t".

In this case it reads the first letter of each group of stroke. But sometimes it reads the second. Honestrly I don't understand the logic, it seems randomly.
Maybe it depends what I've typed before, if strokes with even or odd number of letters, maybe...
Anyway always reads the first or the second letter of the group.