So you said:
Object Presentation, Progress bar output.
But that don't tell us how to do anything about it.----- Original Message ----- From: "Tyler Spivey" <tspivey@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting rid of beeping sound


Object Presentation, Progress bar output.
On 1/21/2018 7:05 AM, Morne van der Merwe wrote:

Hello listers,



The latest version of NVDA on a



Windows 10 machine.



The beeping sound while downloading something can be very helpful, but I
would like to get rid of it while listening to something on YouTube.
There is a beeping sound as I’m listening to the YouTube clip. Is there
a way to switch it off?



Thanks in advance.



Kind regards

Morne

But that don't tell us how to do anything about it.----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler Spivey" <tspivey@pcdesk.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2018 9:29 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting rid of beeping sound


Object Presentation, Progress bar output.
On 1/21/2018 7:05 AM, Morne van der Merwe wrote:

Hello listers,



The latest version of NVDA on a



Windows 10 machine.



The beeping sound while downloading something can be very helpful, but I
would like to get rid of it while listening to something on YouTube.
There is a beeping sound as I’m listening to the YouTube clip. Is there
a way to switch it off?



Thanks in advance.



Kind regards

Morne

Hello listers,

 

The latest version of NVDA on a

 

Windows 10 machine.

 

The beeping sound while downloading something can be very helpful, but I would like to get rid of it while listening to something on YouTube. There is a beeping sound as I’m listening to the YouTube clip. Is there a way to switch it off?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kind regards

Morne

On 1/21/18, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:

The description feature for Windows 10 sounds interesting. Please can you
post a link where we can read more about it?

Microsoft is not well known for releasing its software under open source
licences (it has done so to some extent in recent years, but it's the
exception rather than the rule), therefore I think it unlikely, but any
announcement from Microsoft about the feature itself would be the definitive

source of information.

I don't understand your question "Can not we do this with the same DLL as we

do in the same OCR?" - please could you rephrase it?

Similarly, what does "can we deal with a cloud system?" mean? Any computer

which is online can access cloud computing resources. What were you asking

about specifically?


Antony.

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 17:30:50, Shasa wrote:

Microsoft has introduced a description feature that allows Windows 10 to
recognize objects, images, and other non-resolvable content on its
screen reader.
Is this open source by Microsoft? Can not we do this with the same DLL
as we do in the same OCR?

Finally, Python has great capabilities in the visual part. Legends
emerged especially with the development of artificial intelligence. Can
we deal with a cloud system?

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From: Morne van der Merwe
Sent: 21 January 2018 15:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Getting rid of beeping sound

 

Hello listers,

 

The latest version of NVDA on a

 

Windows 10 machine.

 

The beeping sound while downloading something can be very helpful, but I would like to get rid of it while listening to something on YouTube. There is a beeping sound as I’m listening to the YouTube clip. Is there a way to switch it off?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kind regards

Morne

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 17:30:50, Shasa wrote:

Microsoft has introduced a description feature that allows Windows 10 to
recognize objects, images, and other non-resolvable content on its
screen reader.
Is this open source by Microsoft? Can not we do this with the same DLL
as we do in the same OCR?

Finally, Python has great capabilities in the visual part. Legends
emerged especially with the development of artificial intelligence. Can
we deal with a cloud system?

On 1/21/2018 7:05 AM, Morne van der Merwe wrote:

Hello listers,

 

The latest version of NVDA on a

 

Windows 10 machine.

 

The beeping sound while downloading something can be very helpful, but I
would like to get rid of it while listening to something on YouTube.
There is a beeping sound as I’m listening to the YouTube clip. Is there
a way to switch it off?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Kind regards

Morne

On 21 January 2018 6:08:51 PM "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/devDocs/devDocs.en.html would be a good start.

Antony.

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 13:34:34, Narayan wrote:

Hi friends, I want to know about writing nvda add -on.. how can I write
script for nvda ad-on. what is the basic knowledge for this. if anyone can
answer this topic. please help me what instruction should I get to prepare
a nvda addon. thanks in advance. Shree.

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El 21/01/2018 a las 11:00, Don H escribió:

After all the talk about firefox 58 I went to www.mozilla.com to download it.  When I hit enter on the download firefox and then installed it I was still on firefox 57.0.4  The only thing that changed was I am now running the 64 bit version versus the 32 bit version of firefox 57.

El 21/01/2018 a las 4:50, enes sarıbaş escribió:

it is not out.  It is still in beta. Mozilla's website does not state it under release notes for stable versions.


On 1/21/2018 10:36 AM, Ian Blackburn wrote:

I couldn’t find the Firefox 58 when I went to do the update it’s stayed at 57. Whatever it’s up to I am using 64 bit Firefox so that might be and issue


Sent from my iPhone

On 21 Jan 2018, at 2:04 pm, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@gmail.com> wrote:

I just installed it too and it is pretty fast.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bobby Vinton
Sent: Saturday, January 20, 2018 7:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] fire fox 58 is out

Hay I just want to tell you all I am using fire fox 58 full version and it is a lot better than fire fox 57.  Web pages load much faster and all web sites I went to work very well.  Not all add ons are supported yet butt I think you all should give it a try because it is very fast.

ClanWin does indeed run under (to quote from their website
http://www.clamwin.com ): "Microsoft Windows 10 / 8 / 7 / Vista / XP / Me /
2000 / 98 and Windows Server 2012, 2008 and 2003".

However (also quoting from their website): "Please note that ClamWin Free
Antivirus does not include an on-access real-time scanner. You need to
manually scan a file in order to detect a virus or spyware."

This in my opinion makes it rather less useful than many other anti-virus
scanners, however if your choice is limited to whatever will still run under
XP, then maybe it's a good enough compromise.


Antony.

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 13:31:13, Josh Kennedy wrote:

> maybe clamWin will work? it is free antivirus.

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maybe clamWin will work? it is free antivirus.

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 13:34:34, Narayan wrote:

Hi friends, I want to know about writing nvda add -on.. how can I write
script for nvda ad-on. what is the basic knowledge for this. if anyone can
answer this topic. please help me what instruction should I get to prepare
a nvda addon. thanks in advance. Shree.

On Sunday 21 January 2018 at 13:31:13, Josh Kennedy wrote:

maybe clamWin will work? it is free antivirus.

Dear Danielle,

Thanks for the info.

From a programming point of view it is a pity only a series of backspaces is sent....

Given the fact we are speaking about steno, and steno is all about speed, I have following question to you:

would it be acceptable to you that individual letters are completely spoken out when they are deleted? Not very ideal from a speed perscpective (user experience), but from a programming point of view perhaps a reliable solution could be worked out.

Otherwise, I guess we would need a mechanism to detect when the sequence of generated backspaces is over (and not waiting for the next key stroke): my first simplistic idea would be using a hold-off timer going off, but that is probably not a very reliable solution. (if I remember well from your video with steno you do 300 wpm or 5 words per sec or 200 millisec per word, counting 3 or 4 syllables per word means max 50 millisec per syllable or keystroke... that is pretty tight).

An alternative would be to create a plover plugin to be plugged in into nvda, that creates a backdoor open to plover in order to let plover instruct nvda to speak the complete syllable being deleted; obviously the plover code should be modified to give nvda this instrucction via this backdoor. At the positive side, I believe it would work more reliably and simpler to implement; at the negative side, I dislike this option as it requires code on both the nvda and plover side and I am not in favour of creating backdoors.

Please let me know what your opinion as user on the above question is / what behavior you exactly would expect.

Kind regards,

Didier

On 16/01/2018 18:30, Daniele Casarola wrote:

Sorry Joseph Lee, I don't have your contact, I can't ask to add you CC. Can you leave it here? Thanks.

Thank you Didier Colle for your question.

This is the answer of one of the Plover developer:

"When undoing a translation, a series of backspace events are sent. Really, just like a user would do when deleting some previously typed text; doesn't this use case work with NVDA?"

So, it seems to be as you supposed.

About your second question.
As I wrote above, to have audio feedback when I press the "delete" button, the option  “Handle keys from other applications” should be on.
NVDA reads only one letter of the group of letters I delete, it seems to be only the first or the second letter.

For example I type "telefono" using 3 strokes: te, le, fono.
To delete the word I should press the "delete" button 3 times of cours. The first time I hear the letter "f", the second time "l" and the third the letter "t".

In this case it reads the first letter of each group of stroke. But sometimes it reads the second. Honestrly I don't understand the logic, it seems randomly.
Maybe it depends what I've typed before, if strokes with even or odd number of letters, maybe...
Anyway always reads the first or the second letter of the group.