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NVDA 2019.3.1 Not saying selected and unselected

David Mackenzie
 

Hi,

With 19.3.1 and windows 10 (up-to-date) NVDA will not say selected or unselected on highlighted files/folders/shortcuts when typingCtrl and space bar.  If I do a quick search using the first letter, the first instance of a file/ folder/shortcut is selected, but not spoken by NVDA, I have to arrow down then up to confirm selection.


This true onn 3 Differemt Computerrs tried, one brand new.


All add-ons have been removed.  The situation is the same when loading NVDA 19.3.1 onto a brand new computer.

Reinstalling 19.2.1 resolves the problem.

Any help is appreciated.  Is this a bug or will changing a setting resolve this?

Thank you,

David Mackenzie

Re: Questions about Skype with NVDA

 

i remember one day, i downloaded skype 8 on windows seven and it worked.
i did not sign in and did not use skype for my general use on that
day, and skype 7 still worked.
but i loved the web interface of skype 8 and loved it very much, as i
love using my firefox!
i tested only with nvda 2017.2 and i did not test with another
versions of nvda to see what are the difference.

On 2/25/20, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
No, but you can use nvda's qn keys to do the same thing. It is an
electron app. For more discussion go to the skype english list which can
be found at groups.io

Take care

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On 25 Feb 2020, at 9:23, zahra wrote:

does skype 8 have shortcuts for doing tasks like single navigation
keys which are used in web browsers?

On 2/25/20, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:
I don't need or use an add on. I just treat skype as a a web page and
go
from there. It's easy to navigate and very very fast, at least on
windows.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our
[website.](http://www.tffppodcast.com) This is also our libsyn page
as
well.

to subscribe to the feed click
[here](http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp)

Our [discord](https://discord.gg/dfr7MaVK) is where you will know
when
we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the
channel
a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit [my main
lbry
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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go
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On 24 Feb 2020, at 22:44, Cordelia Scharpf wrote:

Not that well. As far as I remember, Skype 8 came into effect in
2018,
and I found navigating with NVDA (without an add-on) somewhat
tedious.
The NVDA add-on (for Skype 8) got updated and is compatible with
NVDA
2019.3 and higher earlier this year, and it works great.

Cordelia


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
zahra
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 7:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions about Skype with NVDA

hi.
do nvda versions in 2017 support skype 8 for desktop?
what is the first version of nvda that supports skype 8?

On 2/25/20, CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...> wrote:
Hello.
The better version of Skype accessible with NVDA is the version 8,
the
version for desktop. Is a web application.
Regards.




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali







--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

Re: Microsoft's accessibility help page for Edge.

molly the blind tech lover
 

One thing I like in edge is that you can press alt plus n when you get a notification. I think I remember this in Internet explorer as well.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 8:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's accessibility help page for Edge.

 

Hmph.

I also find edge is a lot like chrome except that it has the edge interface bolted on, so while it looks like chrome its just crappy edge.

Chrome is still better than edge because its not edge.

To be honest, if I was going to make a microsoft brouser and was microsoft, I'd actually upgrade internet explorer and continue using the interface.

Only internet explorer asks you if you want to run a file rather than saving it with its infobar.

It also has no frills which is still while doing admin I still use it a load.

 

 

On 26/02/2020 2:20 pm, Arlene wrote:

So do I! I find Edge is a lot like Chrome.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: February 25, 2020 3:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's accessibility help page for Edge.

 

Hi.

I quite like the new Edge . . . It reminds me of Google Chrome which is my favorite web browser . . .

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's accessibility help page for Edge.

 

Hi, Robert,

 

I read the article you shared and it's quite informative. I think I like the older version of edge better.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

On 2/24/2020 10:27 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I'm sharing this because I don't think it's been shared before. I'd bookmark the below. It has some useful links and lists and more, about using the Chromium based Microsoft Edge with the keyboard. Their grammar errors bug me but I can live with it. There's even a link at the bottom to help you revert back to the old Edge.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4538354/microsoft-edge-new-accessibility

 

Re: Microsoft's accessibility help page for Edge.

molly the blind tech lover
 

Yep it’s pretty cool 😀

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 8:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's accessibility help page for Edge.

 

So do I! I find Edge is a lot like Chrome.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: February 25, 2020 3:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's accessibility help page for Edge.

 

Hi.

I quite like the new Edge . . . It reminds me of Google Chrome which is my favorite web browser . . .

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's accessibility help page for Edge.

 

Hi, Robert,

 

I read the article you shared and it's quite informative. I think I like the older version of edge better.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

On 2/24/2020 10:27 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I'm sharing this because I don't think it's been shared before. I'd bookmark the below. It has some useful links and lists and more, about using the Chromium based Microsoft Edge with the keyboard. Their grammar errors bug me but I can live with it. There's even a link at the bottom to help you revert back to the old Edge.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4538354/microsoft-edge-new-accessibility

 

Re: Microsoft's accessibility help page for Edge.

 

Hmph.

I also find edge is a lot like chrome except that it has the edge interface bolted on, so while it looks like chrome its just crappy edge.

Chrome is still better than edge because its not edge.

To be honest, if I was going to make a microsoft brouser and was microsoft, I'd actually upgrade internet explorer and continue using the interface.

Only internet explorer asks you if you want to run a file rather than saving it with its infobar.

It also has no frills which is still while doing admin I still use it a load.



On 26/02/2020 2:20 pm, Arlene wrote:

So do I! I find Edge is a lot like Chrome.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: February 25, 2020 3:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's accessibility help page for Edge.

 

Hi.

I quite like the new Edge . . . It reminds me of Google Chrome which is my favorite web browser . . .

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's accessibility help page for Edge.

 

Hi, Robert,

 

I read the article you shared and it's quite informative. I think I like the older version of edge better.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

On 2/24/2020 10:27 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I'm sharing this because I don't think it's been shared before. I'd bookmark the below. It has some useful links and lists and more, about using the Chromium based Microsoft Edge with the keyboard. Their grammar errors bug me but I can live with it. There's even a link at the bottom to help you revert back to the old Edge.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4538354/microsoft-edge-new-accessibility

 

Re: Microsoft's accessibility help page for Edge.

Arlene
 

So do I! I find Edge is a lot like Chrome.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: February 25, 2020 3:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's accessibility help page for Edge.

 

Hi.

I quite like the new Edge . . . It reminds me of Google Chrome which is my favorite web browser . . .

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2020 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's accessibility help page for Edge.

 

Hi, Robert,

 

I read the article you shared and it's quite informative. I think I like the older version of edge better.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

On 2/24/2020 10:27 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I'm sharing this because I don't think it's been shared before. I'd bookmark the below. It has some useful links and lists and more, about using the Chromium based Microsoft Edge with the keyboard. Their grammar errors bug me but I can live with it. There's even a link at the bottom to help you revert back to the old Edge.

https://support.microsoft.com/en-us/help/4538354/microsoft-edge-new-accessibility

 

Re: changes in speech in NVDA 2019.3

David Csercsics
 

Well, both of these cards use the built-in Microsoft USB audio driver. I've got all the Windows audio enhancements disabled, because it seems that it is better for sound supposedly if you do that. I'm not sure what other implications that has though.

Re: changes in speech in NVDA 2019.3

 

Well lets see if it continues, I just got the latest driver with my card and its not doing it now and its a lot less allready.

So maybe eventually its going to go away.

I always get latest driver in fact things are a lot better now so who knows.

On 26/02/2020 1:44 pm, David Csercsics wrote:
No, I haven't seen it with other sounds unless the sound card was previously asleep for a long period. It's probably a driver bug somewhere. It's not too severe, just a bit strange. The sound card that glitches most frequently with NVDA only supports 24-bit audio, so maybe that has something to do with it.



Re: changes in speech in NVDA 2019.3

 

So far I only notice it with nvda.



On 26/02/2020 1:26 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I wonder does it happen with other sounds as well, eg the start of a music track, the first ring of Skype, etc?

My guess is it's likely the driver - allowing the device to try to play sounds before it has properly initialised etc, and I doubt there is too much NVDA itself can do.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:22 AM David Csercsics <bleeblat@...> wrote:
I notice a similar issue with espeak where the beginning and end of
utterances will sometimes clip with both of my USB sound cards. One of
them is a AudioQuest DragonFly Red which is sometimes hooked to
headphones and sometimes studio monitors. When I first start NVDA the
first part of the startup tones gets clipped and the first syllable of
the first utterance from espeak is clipped off as well. This happens
less frequently with the Logitech h800 headphones I have, but even on
those it still occurs occasionally.







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: changes in speech in NVDA 2019.3

 

Mine is just a standard realtech.

It only really does it when brousing the web in waterfox, no idea why but its random.

Clipping is probably a good way to describe it.

On 26/02/2020 1:22 pm, David Csercsics wrote:
I notice a similar issue with espeak where the beginning and end of utterances will sometimes clip with both of my USB sound cards. One of them is a AudioQuest DragonFly Red which is sometimes hooked to headphones and sometimes studio monitors. When I first start NVDA the first part of the startup tones gets clipped and the first syllable of the first utterance from espeak is clipped off as well. This happens less frequently with the Logitech h800 headphones I have, but even on those it still occurs occasionally.



Re: changes in speech in NVDA 2019.3

 

No ducking or enhancements or anything like that.

Saying that there area few unique enhancements in the driver I can't turn off unless I kill it but if I do that the sound comes out as overdriven junk and I suspect some of this is to protect the speakers from the sheer power of the amp and stuff in the workstation.

Its not that bad, and well could be anything, no log errors or anything.



On 26/02/2020 12:54 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Shaun,

I haven't noticed that with eSpeak, I wonder if it is related to the sound card rather than NVDA - eg when an audio stream finishes (which would often be at the end of a sentence).  What sound card do you have, and what other relevant sound settings, eg audio ducking?

If you can find a way to reliably reproduce it and record it, that would be worth listening to.  I'm guessing there is nothing in the NVDA log to indicate an issue?  One last question - does it sound different if you are using speakers vs headphones?

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 6:38 AM Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

I have noticed with especially ends of words in espeak at any rate not sure with the fest but they seem to pop at the end of words and sound more abbrupt especially at the end of sentences.

It doesn't always happen but enough times a user would notice.

It doesn't mean the user can't use the software but you notice it when reading.



On 21/02/2020 5:02 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
We did rewrite a lot of the speech code, although for now this shouldn't be an overly different experience, it was more to make future changes and maintenance easier.  Evidently you've found something that does work slightly differently.

Not sure about the first one, I'll have to learn GMails keyboard shortcuts more - but re editing words, I've written that up https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10808

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:40 AM Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@...> wrote:
Hi all,

does anyone know whether there have been changes to the speech processing part of NVDA in the 2019.3 update? I didn't spot anything in the change log, but I experience a couple of things that are different from the 2019.2.1 version.

The first one is very minor ... when I tag an email in gmail so that it goes into an existing  folder, I press c to go to the combo box listing all folders, then I press a letter corresponding to the first letter of the folder name - such as f for my Facebook notifications. Once focus is on Facebook I tab over and activate the Go button, which applied the label to the email. Since 2019.3 the letter I pressed (in this case f) gets spoken when I tab over to the Go button; this did not happen before 2019.3.If I need to press the letter more than once to continue past Facebook to Farming and then to Fiction, NVDA now announces "fff" which is mildly annoying!

More of a problem is when I mistype words ... I regularly mistype because as becuase and words ending in tion as toin ... I suspect when I've done this and immediately select the word and retype it without presing space to move onto typing the next word. As a result the first mistyping doesn't get spoken straight away ... it gets spoken as I press space or punctuation ... and it merges the mistyped word in with the correct version, and they are seemlessly connected like they are one single word, becuasebecause ... the same happened in this post when I mistyped punctuation as puncutation and got "puncutationpunctuation" as a result.

The only irritation with this is that it makes it difficult to tell whether the subsequent attempts at spelling the word correctly has removed the typo or whether it is still mistyped.

I'm curious whether this is an intentional change and, if so, what the thinking behind it is.

Giles


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: changes in speech in NVDA 2019.3

David Csercsics
 

No, I haven't seen it with other sounds unless the sound card was previously asleep for a long period. It's probably a driver bug somewhere. It's not too severe, just a bit strange. The sound card that glitches most frequently with NVDA only supports 24-bit audio, so maybe that has something to do with it.

Re: changes in speech in NVDA 2019.3

Quentin Christensen
 

I wonder does it happen with other sounds as well, eg the start of a music track, the first ring of Skype, etc?

My guess is it's likely the driver - allowing the device to try to play sounds before it has properly initialised etc, and I doubt there is too much NVDA itself can do.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 11:22 AM David Csercsics <bleeblat@...> wrote:
I notice a similar issue with espeak where the beginning and end of
utterances will sometimes clip with both of my USB sound cards. One of
them is a AudioQuest DragonFly Red which is sometimes hooked to
headphones and sometimes studio monitors. When I first start NVDA the
first part of the startup tones gets clipped and the first syllable of
the first utterance from espeak is clipped off as well. This happens
less frequently with the Logitech h800 headphones I have, but even on
those it still occurs occasionally.







--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: changes in speech in NVDA 2019.3

David Csercsics
 

I notice a similar issue with espeak where the beginning and end of utterances will sometimes clip with both of my USB sound cards. One of them is a AudioQuest DragonFly Red which is sometimes hooked to headphones and sometimes studio monitors. When I first start NVDA the first part of the startup tones gets clipped and the first syllable of the first utterance from espeak is clipped off as well. This happens less frequently with the Logitech h800 headphones I have, but even on those it still occurs occasionally.

Re: Questions about Skype with NVDA

Arlene
 

I’m surprised that xp box is still working. You are taking risks. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Lino Morales
Sent: February 25, 2020 11:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions about Skype with NVDA

 

You really need to get off XP. Your taking risks by still using an outdated OS. No Skype 8.X will not support XP. Sorry.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                Sent from Mail for Windows 10

                                                                                                               

 

From: zahra
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 2:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions about Skype with NVDA

 

i tested 2017.3 for some days and i loved it.

but most of my needed features are in 2017.2 and it was the best

feature for me that i want to use it always.

what happens if i use nvda 2017.2 with skype 8?

is there a solution to use skype 8 on windows xp?

i tested one day on windows seven and i loved it.

but, i could not install it on windows xp.

 

On 2/25/20, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

> Not that well. As far as I remember, Skype 8 came into effect in 2018, and I

> found navigating with NVDA (without an add-on) somewhat tedious. The NVDA

> add-on (for Skype 8) got updated and is compatible with NVDA 2019.3 and

> higher earlier this year, and it works great.

> Cordelia

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra

> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 7:13 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions about Skype with NVDA

> hi.

> do nvda versions in 2017 support skype 8 for desktop?

> what is the first version of nvda that supports skype 8?

> On 2/25/20, CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...> wrote:

>> Hello.

>> The better version of Skype accessible with NVDA is the version 8, the

>> version for desktop. Is a web application.

>> Regards.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> By God,

> were I given all the seven heavens

> with all they contain

> in order that

> I may disobey God

> by depriving an ant

> from the husk of a grain of barley,

> I would not do it.

> imam ali

>

 

 

--

By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali

 

 

 

 

Re: changes in speech in NVDA 2019.3

Quentin Christensen
 

Shaun,

I haven't noticed that with eSpeak, I wonder if it is related to the sound card rather than NVDA - eg when an audio stream finishes (which would often be at the end of a sentence).  What sound card do you have, and what other relevant sound settings, eg audio ducking?

If you can find a way to reliably reproduce it and record it, that would be worth listening to.  I'm guessing there is nothing in the NVDA log to indicate an issue?  One last question - does it sound different if you are using speakers vs headphones?

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Feb 26, 2020 at 6:38 AM Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

I have noticed with especially ends of words in espeak at any rate not sure with the fest but they seem to pop at the end of words and sound more abbrupt especially at the end of sentences.

It doesn't always happen but enough times a user would notice.

It doesn't mean the user can't use the software but you notice it when reading.



On 21/02/2020 5:02 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
We did rewrite a lot of the speech code, although for now this shouldn't be an overly different experience, it was more to make future changes and maintenance easier.  Evidently you've found something that does work slightly differently.

Not sure about the first one, I'll have to learn GMails keyboard shortcuts more - but re editing words, I've written that up https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10808

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:40 AM Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@...> wrote:
Hi all,

does anyone know whether there have been changes to the speech processing part of NVDA in the 2019.3 update? I didn't spot anything in the change log, but I experience a couple of things that are different from the 2019.2.1 version.

The first one is very minor ... when I tag an email in gmail so that it goes into an existing  folder, I press c to go to the combo box listing all folders, then I press a letter corresponding to the first letter of the folder name - such as f for my Facebook notifications. Once focus is on Facebook I tab over and activate the Go button, which applied the label to the email. Since 2019.3 the letter I pressed (in this case f) gets spoken when I tab over to the Go button; this did not happen before 2019.3.If I need to press the letter more than once to continue past Facebook to Farming and then to Fiction, NVDA now announces "fff" which is mildly annoying!

More of a problem is when I mistype words ... I regularly mistype because as becuase and words ending in tion as toin ... I suspect when I've done this and immediately select the word and retype it without presing space to move onto typing the next word. As a result the first mistyping doesn't get spoken straight away ... it gets spoken as I press space or punctuation ... and it merges the mistyped word in with the correct version, and they are seemlessly connected like they are one single word, becuasebecause ... the same happened in this post when I mistyped punctuation as puncutation and got "puncutationpunctuation" as a result.

The only irritation with this is that it makes it difficult to tell whether the subsequent attempts at spelling the word correctly has removed the typo or whether it is still mistyped.

I'm curious whether this is an intentional change and, if so, what the thinking behind it is.

Giles


--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: NVDA 2019.3.1 and External Soundcard and Firefox

Quentin Christensen
 

I think this thread is talking about two different issues:

The first issue is Chrome not refreshing properly.  As per the last couple of comments on https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10815 it definitely appears to be a Chrome issue and it looks like this has been fixed in recent Chrome betas.  These won't push to regular users until March 17, but they are on the way.  In the meantime, the workaround is it either tab or use NVDA+f5 to manually force a refresh as needed.

The second issue is NVDA repeating "unknown" for everything in browsers.  That is most commonly caused by various DLL files incorrectly being deregistered when programs are installed or uninstalled (which may not have anything to do with the browser or NVDA - eg uninstalling Office commonly causes this).  To fix this we added an option in the tools menu.  Press NVDA+N, then T to open the tools menu.  Select and run the "COM Registration Fixing Tool".

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Feb 25, 2020 at 6:05 PM hurrikennyandopo ... <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


There was a bug that in most of the browsers would say unknown or pane


The context menu would not be spoken andother weird stuff including down
on the running applications part of the task bar you would hear the
icons spoken but in this case it would say unknown as you arr owed
through them.


Even if you tab in the browser etc is it just still saying unknown etc
so no quick navigation keys can be used.


Does it happen in other browsers?

for them to see what might be happening it might be a good idea in
general settings in nvda to change the log in level to debug and then
save the settings.


Restart nvda then go back into the browser and try and do the usual.


Then use the nvda key + f1 key to bring up the log viewer then save it
to the computer.


It might be a good idea to say what is happening as it might be a new
ticket or you can add to a ticket for it to be fix


By the way the following web page might help you if you go to make a
ticket it can be found under the trouble shooting section at
http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

There is a email address that it can be emailed to but can not remember
it at hand. If you have a email with quentins details you might be able
to email him. from nvaccess.


Gene nz

.

On 23/02/2020 10:19 pm, Pele West wrote:
> Hi Gene
>
> apologies, in my previous message I had a brainstorm and said that NVDA
> kept saying "Confirm", I meant "Unknown".
>
> It seems to say "Unknown" on all the pages I have loaded.
>
> I have also removed all the Mozilla and NVDA files after uninstalling
> the programs, and then I have reinstalled them with no luck.
>
> And now I also have this problem that NVDA will not see the external
> sound card.
>
> NVDA works perfectly with Chrome.
>
> I am not sure I understand your question about the Taskbar. Firefox
> shows up on there.
>
> Pele
>
>
>
>





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Training and Support Manager


Re: Vocalizer voices

 

Well the higher voices have higher quality but they are bigger size wize but even the higher voices are at most 60mb in size its not to bad with a good connection.

But if you don't have one, the lower grade voices are 10-30mb in size so there is a difference.

On 25/02/2020 6:21 am, Don H wrote:
Any real advantage to installing the Vocalizer embeded Hi versus the embeded Pro voices?



.

Re: changes in speech in NVDA 2019.3

 

I have noticed with especially ends of words in espeak at any rate not sure with the fest but they seem to pop at the end of words and sound more abbrupt especially at the end of sentences.

It doesn't always happen but enough times a user would notice.

It doesn't mean the user can't use the software but you notice it when reading.



On 21/02/2020 5:02 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
We did rewrite a lot of the speech code, although for now this shouldn't be an overly different experience, it was more to make future changes and maintenance easier.  Evidently you've found something that does work slightly differently.

Not sure about the first one, I'll have to learn GMails keyboard shortcuts more - but re editing words, I've written that up https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/10808

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 21, 2020 at 2:40 AM Giles Turnbull <giles.turnbull@...> wrote:
Hi all,

does anyone know whether there have been changes to the speech processing part of NVDA in the 2019.3 update? I didn't spot anything in the change log, but I experience a couple of things that are different from the 2019.2.1 version.

The first one is very minor ... when I tag an email in gmail so that it goes into an existing  folder, I press c to go to the combo box listing all folders, then I press a letter corresponding to the first letter of the folder name - such as f for my Facebook notifications. Once focus is on Facebook I tab over and activate the Go button, which applied the label to the email. Since 2019.3 the letter I pressed (in this case f) gets spoken when I tab over to the Go button; this did not happen before 2019.3.If I need to press the letter more than once to continue past Facebook to Farming and then to Fiction, NVDA now announces "fff" which is mildly annoying!

More of a problem is when I mistype words ... I regularly mistype because as becuase and words ending in tion as toin ... I suspect when I've done this and immediately select the word and retype it without presing space to move onto typing the next word. As a result the first mistyping doesn't get spoken straight away ... it gets spoken as I press space or punctuation ... and it merges the mistyped word in with the correct version, and they are seemlessly connected like they are one single word, becuasebecause ... the same happened in this post when I mistyped punctuation as puncutation and got "puncutationpunctuation" as a result.

The only irritation with this is that it makes it difficult to tell whether the subsequent attempts at spelling the word correctly has removed the typo or whether it is still mistyped.

I'm curious whether this is an intentional change and, if so, what the thinking behind it is.

Giles


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Training and Support Manager


Re: Questions about Skype with NVDA

Lino Morales
 

You really need to get off XP. Your taking risks by still using an outdated OS. No Skype 8.X will not support XP. Sorry.

 

                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                               

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From: zahra
Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 2:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions about Skype with NVDA

 

i tested 2017.3 for some days and i loved it.

but most of my needed features are in 2017.2 and it was the best

feature for me that i want to use it always.

what happens if i use nvda 2017.2 with skype 8?

is there a solution to use skype 8 on windows xp?

i tested one day on windows seven and i loved it.

but, i could not install it on windows xp.

 

On 2/25/20, Cordelia Scharpf <CScharpf@...> wrote:

> Not that well. As far as I remember, Skype 8 came into effect in 2018, and I

> found navigating with NVDA (without an add-on) somewhat tedious. The NVDA

> add-on (for Skype 8) got updated and is compatible with NVDA 2019.3 and

> higher earlier this year, and it works great.

> Cordelia

> -----Original Message-----

> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra

> Sent: Tuesday, February 25, 2020 7:13 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Questions about Skype with NVDA

> hi.

> do nvda versions in 2017 support skype 8 for desktop?

> what is the first version of nvda that supports skype 8?

> On 2/25/20, CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...> wrote:

>> Hello.

>> The better version of Skype accessible with NVDA is the version 8, the

>> version for desktop. Is a web application.

>> Regards.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

> --

> By God,

> were I given all the seven heavens

> with all they contain

> in order that

> I may disobey God

> by depriving an ant

> from the husk of a grain of barley,

> I would not do it.

> imam ali

>

 

 

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By God,

were I given all the seven heavens

with all they contain

in order that

I may disobey God

by depriving an ant

from the husk of a grain of barley,

I would not do it.

imam ali