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Re: Nvda start up question

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi gene


I just had a look at what I had typed and followed the steps as in the tutorial.

When it says choose a device in this case there was only one it did not have to be selected at all it was default.

It is a combo box and if I say press the space bar on it then say use alt key + down arrow key it will open it up but there are no other options there even though it says 1 of 2.


It when written was for the speakers that most people have plugged in.



it might be different if there was a second sound out put there may be other options.


In this case the combo box I think it is can either be opened with the space bar then arrowed down or the alt key + down arrow key will do the same then arrow down if other options were there. In this case not.


Gene nz



On 30/01/2020 1:28 pm, Gene wrote:
When you say choose your device, it would be good to say after that to up or down arrow to select a device, even if there is only one.  That is, if it is that way in Windows 10.  In Windows 7, even if there is only one device, you have to up or down arrow to select it.  The space bar doesn't work and if nothing is selected, there is nothing but an o.k. button.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda start up question

Hi


if it is the sound enhancements doing it one of the tutorials I have not
posted yet might help it is a draft where to look.


Disabling sound enhancements in Windows

Sometimes when there is an update for Windows, you may hear a buzzing
sound (and other strange noises) from the computer while using NVDA.

If this is the case, you will need to turn off sound enhancements in
Windows for your sound card. The steps to turn it off may be similar for
other Windows 10 computers.

Press the Windows key, and in the search box type sound settings. When
it comes up with this result, press the Enter key. The first option
might say Choose your output device Speakers (High Definition Audio
Device). Next, tab once to device properties, then press the Enter key.
The next screen that comes up will say home. If you tab about 7 times
you will then hear NVDA say Additional device properties. Press the
enter key.

The next screen should come up with speaker properties. Shift tab back
once or twice - until you hear NVDA say General. There are 5 tabs there.
Use your right arrow key to get to the enhancements tab, then tab a
couple of times until you hear NVDA say Disable all enhancements. This
should be a check box. Please note, in some cases, after you tab once
(after the enhancements tab) you might need to arrow down or tab to
locate the disable all enhancements checkbox. You will hear other stuff
for the sound card being spoken out, but they can be left unchecked. You
will need to tab to hear the "disable enhancements" checkbox if you
arrowed down the list of enhancements and check the checkbox with the
Spacebar. You will then need to apply and ok your changes with the Spacebar.

Now, those weird buzzing sounds etcetera should be gone!

Gene nz




On 30/01/2020 11:00 am, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hi, check You sound card settings,  some have some sort of advance
> sound I had problems years ago with this and switched all the fancy
> stuff off and this fixed it. I am not sure where to look as As I say
> it was years ago.
>
> On 29/01/2020 05:15, Hugin wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks. I'll try that if it does it again, I am saving this email and
>> thank you. After you mentioned not having so many programs starting
>> up at once, something told e to go look and stupid cortana started
>> itself back up again (I had disabled it) and bing is on though I
>> can't find the stupid thing and I'm looking up now how to find where
>> windows hid it so I can make it stop as well as I use chrome. I get
>> that this has nothing to do with nvda, but I am replying to my
>> original nvda issue to say you may have been right about the too much
>> at start up due to the fact things wer running that I did not have on
>> or intend to be running.My windows 10 likes to undo things I do.
>> *sighs* So missing 7. Anyway, again I'll do this if after those go
>> away again it happens again and thanks so much.
>> I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
>> I get along with the voices inside of my head.
>>
>
>
>
Re: NVDA 2019.3 Beta 3 now available

Margus Ojaots
 

hi. i am using eloquence for school. When nvda next version comes out,
can i still use eloquence?
Thanks

2020-01-30 9:35 GMT +02:00, Nikos Demetriou via Groups.Io
<nikosdemetriou=googlemail.com@groups.io>:

Hi.
I found a problem with beta3 which didn't exist in the previous beta.
We seam to have an issue with the address bar of google chrome canary.
If we use the left and right arrow keys to read the address we just typed,
or if we want to make changes, the error sound plays and nvda doesn't read
any characters.

Fortunately chrome stable works fine which is the one most people are
using.
Thanks
Nikos

On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 02:49, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
wrote:

Hi everyone,

As you are all quick off the mark, this isn't completely new news, but
confirming that yes, NVDA 2019.3 beta 3 is now available from:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta3-now-available-for-testing/

This is slight progression from the previous beta so you shouldn't notice
too many big changes - of course as always happens, as we move closer to
the final release, we don't put as many big new features in, but rather
try
to ensure that everything is stable and fix bugs people have reported in
previous betas.

If you do encounter any issues, please do report them:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues If you could also clarify
whether they are new issues or existing issues (which hadn't previously
been reported) that would be really helpful - both are important to know
about, but being able to pinpoint when something started being an issue
helps narrow down where to look for a fix.

All things going well, this will be the last beta before the release
candidate, which will be just before the final stable release.

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

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Re: NVDA 2019.3 Beta 3 now available

Nikos Demetriou
 

Hi.
I found a problem with beta3 which didn't exist in the previous beta.
We seam to have an issue with the address bar of google chrome canary.
If we use the left and right arrow keys to read the address we just typed, or if we want to make changes, the error sound plays and nvda doesn't read any characters.

Fortunately chrome stable works fine which is the one most people are using.
Thanks
Nikos

On Thu, 30 Jan 2020 at 02:49, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
Hi everyone,

As you are all quick off the mark, this isn't completely new news, but confirming that yes, NVDA 2019.3 beta 3 is now available from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta3-now-available-for-testing/ 

This is slight progression from the previous beta so you shouldn't notice too many big changes - of course as always happens, as we move closer to the final release, we don't put as many big new features in, but rather try to ensure that everything is stable and fix bugs people have reported in previous betas.

If you do encounter any issues, please do report them: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues  If you could also clarify whether they are new issues or existing issues (which hadn't previously been reported) that would be really helpful - both are important to know about, but being able to pinpoint when something started being an issue helps narrow down where to look for a fix.

All things going well, this will be the last beta before the release candidate, which will be just before the final stable release.

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Re: Nvda start up question

Gene
 

Pressing enter has nothing to do with selecting a device in a standard list, or selecting a file or anything else.  Pressing enter executes a left click on the chosen item.  You are in a dialog with a list.  You select the item by arrowing to it and then you tab around the dialog.  Its selecting the item that causes the dialog to show relevant controls or whatever else is provided for. 
 
I don't know if you can use space to select an item in Windows 10 in the list or equivalent list we are discussing.  You can't in Windows 7.  You must use the up and down arrow keys. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Thursday, January 30, 2020 12:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda start up question

In this case, when you select by using the up or down arrow? Do you hit the enter key so that your device is chosen? I did this when I got my ten box. I don’t remember doing this with windows 7.  I don’t know why I did not hit the space bar when choosing a device. I just hit enter and the device was chosen.  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: January 29, 2020 4:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda start up question

 

When you say choose your device, it would be good to say after that to up or down arrow to select a device, even if there is only one.  That is, if it is that way in Windows 10.  In Windows 7, even if there is only one device, you have to up or down arrow to select it.  The space bar doesn't work and if nothing is selected, there is nothing but an o.k. button.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 4:38 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda start up question

 

Hi


if it is the sound enhancements doing it one of the tutorials I have not
posted yet might help it is a draft where to look.


Disabling sound enhancements in Windows

Sometimes when there is an update for Windows, you may hear a buzzing
sound (and other strange noises) from the computer while using NVDA.

If this is the case, you will need to turn off sound enhancements in
Windows for your sound card. The steps to turn it off may be similar for
other Windows 10 computers.

Press the Windows key, and in the search box type sound settings. When
it comes up with this result, press the Enter key. The first option
might say Choose your output device Speakers (High Definition Audio
Device). Next, tab once to device properties, then press the Enter key.
The next screen that comes up will say home. If you tab about 7 times
you will then hear NVDA say Additional device properties. Press the
enter key.

The next screen should come up with speaker properties. Shift tab back
once or twice - until you hear NVDA say General. There are 5 tabs there.
Use your right arrow key to get to the enhancements tab, then tab a
couple of times until you hear NVDA say Disable all enhancements. This
should be a check box. Please note, in some cases, after you tab once
(after the enhancements tab) you might need to arrow down or tab to
locate the disable all enhancements checkbox. You will hear other stuff
for the sound card being spoken out, but they can be left unchecked. You
will need to tab to hear the "disable enhancements" checkbox if you
arrowed down the list of enhancements and check the checkbox with the
Spacebar. You will then need to apply and ok your changes with the Spacebar.

Now, those weird buzzing sounds etcetera should be gone!

Gene nz




On 30/01/2020 11:00 am, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hi, check You sound card settings,  some have some sort of advance
> sound I had problems years ago with this and switched all the fancy
> stuff off and this fixed it. I am not sure where to look as As I say
> it was years ago.
>
> On 29/01/2020 05:15, Hugin wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks. I'll try that if it does it again, I am saving this email and
>> thank you. After you mentioned not having so many programs starting
>> up at once, something told e to go look and stupid cortana started
>> itself back up again (I had disabled it) and bing is on though I
>> can't find the stupid thing and I'm looking up now how to find where
>> windows hid it so I can make it stop as well as I use chrome. I get
>> that this has nothing to do with nvda, but I am replying to my
>> original nvda issue to say you may have been right about the too much
>> at start up due to the fact things wer running that I did not have on
>> or intend to be running.My windows 10 likes to undo things I do.
>> *sighs* So missing 7. Anyway, again I'll do this if after those go
>> away again it happens again and thanks so much.
>> I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
>> I get along with the voices inside of my head.
>>
>
>
>

 
Re: Nvda start up question

Arlene
 

In this case, when you select by using the up or down arrow? Do you hit the enter key so that your device is chosen? I did this when I got my ten box. I don’t remember doing this with windows 7.  I don’t know why I did not hit the space bar when choosing a device. I just hit enter and the device was chosen.  

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: January 29, 2020 4:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda start up question

 

When you say choose your device, it would be good to say after that to up or down arrow to select a device, even if there is only one.  That is, if it is that way in Windows 10.  In Windows 7, even if there is only one device, you have to up or down arrow to select it.  The space bar doesn't work and if nothing is selected, there is nothing but an o.k. button.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 4:38 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda start up question

 

Hi


if it is the sound enhancements doing it one of the tutorials I have not
posted yet might help it is a draft where to look.


Disabling sound enhancements in Windows

Sometimes when there is an update for Windows, you may hear a buzzing
sound (and other strange noises) from the computer while using NVDA.

If this is the case, you will need to turn off sound enhancements in
Windows for your sound card. The steps to turn it off may be similar for
other Windows 10 computers.

Press the Windows key, and in the search box type sound settings. When
it comes up with this result, press the Enter key. The first option
might say Choose your output device Speakers (High Definition Audio
Device). Next, tab once to device properties, then press the Enter key.
The next screen that comes up will say home. If you tab about 7 times
you will then hear NVDA say Additional device properties. Press the
enter key.

The next screen should come up with speaker properties. Shift tab back
once or twice - until you hear NVDA say General. There are 5 tabs there.
Use your right arrow key to get to the enhancements tab, then tab a
couple of times until you hear NVDA say Disable all enhancements. This
should be a check box. Please note, in some cases, after you tab once
(after the enhancements tab) you might need to arrow down or tab to
locate the disable all enhancements checkbox. You will hear other stuff
for the sound card being spoken out, but they can be left unchecked. You
will need to tab to hear the "disable enhancements" checkbox if you
arrowed down the list of enhancements and check the checkbox with the
Spacebar. You will then need to apply and ok your changes with the Spacebar.

Now, those weird buzzing sounds etcetera should be gone!

Gene nz




On 30/01/2020 11:00 am, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hi, check You sound card settings,  some have some sort of advance
> sound I had problems years ago with this and switched all the fancy
> stuff off and this fixed it. I am not sure where to look as As I say
> it was years ago.
>
> On 29/01/2020 05:15, Hugin wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks. I'll try that if it does it again, I am saving this email and
>> thank you. After you mentioned not having so many programs starting
>> up at once, something told e to go look and stupid cortana started
>> itself back up again (I had disabled it) and bing is on though I
>> can't find the stupid thing and I'm looking up now how to find where
>> windows hid it so I can make it stop as well as I use chrome. I get
>> that this has nothing to do with nvda, but I am replying to my
>> original nvda issue to say you may have been right about the too much
>> at start up due to the fact things wer running that I did not have on
>> or intend to be running.My windows 10 likes to undo things I do.
>> *sighs* So missing 7. Anyway, again I'll do this if after those go
>> away again it happens again and thanks so much.
>> I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
>> I get along with the voices inside of my head.
>>
>
>
>

 
Re: NVDA 2019.3 Beta 3 now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Yes it should be.


On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 3:29 PM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:

Hi, Quentin

This is noted. I appreciate of your diligent response
but before I letting off you go for this topic. I still have one more question from you. Smile.
Since we are close to stable phase of the nvda 2019.3
would there be a chance that the addons for the Remote will be release at the same time?

On 1/30/2020 11:36 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Robert,

Thanks for the question.  Firstly, for everyone, We've pushed out a couple of pull requests to update NVDARemote for 2019.3, so that will be available for the stable version.

As to including NVDA Remote into NVDA itself, even though many users use it frequently and it is vital for some users, it is not something we are looking at bringing into core at this point, One reason for this is we have a number of users in corporate environments and we would get a lot of pushback from them (or their IT people at least) on updating NVDA to a version with that functionality.

The main thing is that the functionality will continue to be available going forward, even though at this point that will still involve the separate add-on.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 1:59 PM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:

Hi, Quentin

Thanks for the info however, I have clarification to ask if you don't mind.
Even so, if we are almost in the stable build version would there be a chance that the addons of the Remote also to be part of the update?

On 1/30/2020 8:49 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

As you are all quick off the mark, this isn't completely new news, but confirming that yes, NVDA 2019.3 beta 3 is now available from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta3-now-available-for-testing/ 

This is slight progression from the previous beta so you shouldn't notice too many big changes - of course as always happens, as we move closer to the final release, we don't put as many big new features in, but rather try to ensure that everything is stable and fix bugs people have reported in previous betas.

If you do encounter any issues, please do report them: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues  If you could also clarify whether they are new issues or existing issues (which hadn't previously been reported) that would be really helpful - both are important to know about, but being able to pinpoint when something started being an issue helps narrow down where to look for a fix.

All things going well, this will be the last beta before the release candidate, which will be just before the final stable release.

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Re: NVDA 2019.3 Beta 3 now available

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Quentin

This is noted. I appreciate of your diligent response
but before I letting off you go for this topic. I still have one more question from you. Smile.
Since we are close to stable phase of the nvda 2019.3
would there be a chance that the addons for the Remote will be release at the same time?

On 1/30/2020 11:36 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Robert,

Thanks for the question.  Firstly, for everyone, We've pushed out a couple of pull requests to update NVDARemote for 2019.3, so that will be available for the stable version.

As to including NVDA Remote into NVDA itself, even though many users use it frequently and it is vital for some users, it is not something we are looking at bringing into core at this point, One reason for this is we have a number of users in corporate environments and we would get a lot of pushback from them (or their IT people at least) on updating NVDA to a version with that functionality.

The main thing is that the functionality will continue to be available going forward, even though at this point that will still involve the separate add-on.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 1:59 PM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:

Hi, Quentin

Thanks for the info however, I have clarification to ask if you don't mind.
Even so, if we are almost in the stable build version would there be a chance that the addons of the Remote also to be part of the update?

On 1/30/2020 8:49 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

As you are all quick off the mark, this isn't completely new news, but confirming that yes, NVDA 2019.3 beta 3 is now available from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta3-now-available-for-testing/ 

This is slight progression from the previous beta so you shouldn't notice too many big changes - of course as always happens, as we move closer to the final release, we don't put as many big new features in, but rather try to ensure that everything is stable and fix bugs people have reported in previous betas.

If you do encounter any issues, please do report them: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues  If you could also clarify whether they are new issues or existing issues (which hadn't previously been reported) that would be really helpful - both are important to know about, but being able to pinpoint when something started being an issue helps narrow down where to look for a fix.

All things going well, this will be the last beta before the release candidate, which will be just before the final stable release.

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Re: NVDA 2019.3 Beta 3 now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Robert,

Thanks for the question.  Firstly, for everyone, We've pushed out a couple of pull requests to update NVDARemote for 2019.3, so that will be available for the stable version.

As to including NVDA Remote into NVDA itself, even though many users use it frequently and it is vital for some users, it is not something we are looking at bringing into core at this point, One reason for this is we have a number of users in corporate environments and we would get a lot of pushback from them (or their IT people at least) on updating NVDA to a version with that functionality.

The main thing is that the functionality will continue to be available going forward, even though at this point that will still involve the separate add-on.

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 1:59 PM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:

Hi, Quentin

Thanks for the info however, I have clarification to ask if you don't mind.
Even so, if we are almost in the stable build version would there be a chance that the addons of the Remote also to be part of the update?

On 1/30/2020 8:49 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

As you are all quick off the mark, this isn't completely new news, but confirming that yes, NVDA 2019.3 beta 3 is now available from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta3-now-available-for-testing/ 

This is slight progression from the previous beta so you shouldn't notice too many big changes - of course as always happens, as we move closer to the final release, we don't put as many big new features in, but rather try to ensure that everything is stable and fix bugs people have reported in previous betas.

If you do encounter any issues, please do report them: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues  If you could also clarify whether they are new issues or existing issues (which hadn't previously been reported) that would be really helpful - both are important to know about, but being able to pinpoint when something started being an issue helps narrow down where to look for a fix.

All things going well, this will be the last beta before the release candidate, which will be just before the final stable release.

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Re: NVDA 2019.3 Beta 3 now available

Robert Mendoza
 

Hi, Quentin

Thanks for the info however, I have clarification to ask if you don't mind.
Even so, if we are almost in the stable build version would there be a chance that the addons of the Remote also to be part of the update?

On 1/30/2020 8:49 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

As you are all quick off the mark, this isn't completely new news, but confirming that yes, NVDA 2019.3 beta 3 is now available from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta3-now-available-for-testing/ 

This is slight progression from the previous beta so you shouldn't notice too many big changes - of course as always happens, as we move closer to the final release, we don't put as many big new features in, but rather try to ensure that everything is stable and fix bugs people have reported in previous betas.

If you do encounter any issues, please do report them: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues  If you could also clarify whether they are new issues or existing issues (which hadn't previously been reported) that would be really helpful - both are important to know about, but being able to pinpoint when something started being an issue helps narrow down where to look for a fix.

All things going well, this will be the last beta before the release candidate, which will be just before the final stable release.

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Re: NVDA 2019.3 Beta 3 now available

Quentin Christensen
 

From the inquiries I made, it looks like Native Access is actually accessible.  I got some resources on it:

Firstly, https://kk-access.com/ has information about the new accessibility mode and how to set it up.


Here is a YouTube video which might help: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uHdDgwp4OTU

There is an email group for support: komplete-kontrol-access+subscribe@...

If you are still having problems, it might be worth asking on that email list,as they seemed quite enthusiastic about its accessibility.

Unfortunately I haven't used it myself, so I can't comment directly either way.

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 30, 2020 at 12:03 PM David Ingram <dingram269@...> wrote:
cn chances. P.S. also will nativeaccess bbe one of the other programs supported and documented as well?

-----Original Message-----
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Jan 29, 2020 6:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 Beta 3 now available

Hi everyone,

As you are all quick off the mark, this isn't completely new news, but confirming that yes, NVDA 2019.3 beta 3 is now available from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta3-now-available-for-testing/ 

This is slight progression from the previous beta so you shouldn't notice too many big changes - of course as always happens, as we move closer to the final release, we don't put as many big new features in, but rather try to ensure that everything is stable and fix bugs people have reported in previous betas.

If you do encounter any issues, please do report them: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues  If you could also clarify whether they are new issues or existing issues (which hadn't previously been reported) that would be really helpful - both are important to know about, but being able to pinpoint when something started being an issue helps narrow down where to look for a fix.

All things going well, this will be the last beta before the release candidate, which will be just before the final stable release.

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Re: In-build dual voice in NVDA 2019.3 and above

Shaun Everiss
 

Hi mary you are absolutely right on the former.

I only read english.

And I really find it a bit disjointed with different synths speaking different parts of things or different voices in a synth speaking different things.

I do know a couple other languages but I don't use them on the computer.

I like high quality voices for books, and games and a few things.

However robotic voices like orpheus synthetic, eloquence and espeak are what I go for speed and performance.

I don't need to understand everything voice wize unless its a book and it all loads faster.

I also don't like where voices change to different things while I brouse a page.

But yeah, english is my ownly language I actively use.



On 30/01/2020 1:10 pm, Mary Otten wrote:

Shawn,


One synthesizer is enough?


Spoken like a guy who does not read languages other than English, or like a guy who is lucky enough that the synth of choice works equally well for all languages of interest.


Mary

On 1/29/2020 4:04 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hmmm I don't see any reason of switching of any sort weather it be dialect, language unless its to another language or voice.

While testing supernova, I have for example found that testing with a lower quality but performance rich voice works a lot better than fiddling with well all sorts of things.

I think its a bit disjointed to switch synths for all sorts of things.

1 synth is enough.



On 30/01/2020 12:00 pm, Timei wrote:
Hello. I think that everyone knows about such a wonderful and unique addition as Dual voice for automatic switching of voices to sapi 5.
Unfortunately, the developer has long ceased support for the addon and does not get in touch. since 2019.3 requires Python 3, this addon does not work anymore with new versions of nvda.
why not make support for automatic sapi 5 voice switching inside nvda? especially since the source code of the addon is.
Re: NVDA 2019.3 Beta 3 now available

David Ingram
 

cn chances. P.S. also will nativeaccess bbe one of the other programs supported and documented as well?

-----Original Message-----
From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Jan 29, 2020 6:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 Beta 3 now available

Hi everyone,

As you are all quick off the mark, this isn't completely new news, but confirming that yes, NVDA 2019.3 beta 3 is now available from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta3-now-available-for-testing/ 

This is slight progression from the previous beta so you shouldn't notice too many big changes - of course as always happens, as we move closer to the final release, we don't put as many big new features in, but rather try to ensure that everything is stable and fix bugs people have reported in previous betas.

If you do encounter any issues, please do report them: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues  If you could also clarify whether they are new issues or existing issues (which hadn't previously been reported) that would be really helpful - both are important to know about, but being able to pinpoint when something started being an issue helps narrow down where to look for a fix.

All things going well, this will be the last beta before the release candidate, which will be just before the final stable release.

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Re: Microsoft Outlook unresponsive after changing folders with conversation view

Shaun Everiss
 

Hmmm I have not had the same scenario but I have had times when office has become unresponsive.

Do an quick repair and if that doesn't work an online repair.

After which you need to activate office again, then download and install all updates.

Office may become a bit screwed.

If that happens after that though it could be a sync issue.

Go and search for speedtest cli, and get the command line app and extract it.

run on a wired connection if possible, speedtest -p = no to force it to not display progress.

At least I think thats the command if not read the readme attached.

After you do that check it against your 2g and 5g wireless connections if you have either or both of these.

Not taking into account net congestion, on a standard fibre connection a speed of 20mb up between 16 and 20 up and 90-108 is good.

A 5g connection will be as fast as your cable usually.

In 2g between 14 and 20mb up and between 70-95 is probably good.

Note that with 5g the isp may halve the connection so 50mb down may be the best you will get.

If wireless broadband your connection will be between 50mb down and 80 down and between 20 and 30 up most of the time.

If vdsl, 15 -19 down and 1.2 up is fine and about average and so on and so on.

For adsl/vdsl, if your upload =800kb up and 5mb down or a weird value your line is screwed.

If mobile broadband then congestion.

Fibre shouldn't have this issue as such.

But in any case talk to your isp if you are having speed issues.

Also if your modem is managed by the isp ask to see if there are any pending updates.

And before people ask why I know so much I have had up to recently anyway had a lot of trouble with my lines.

I have also done a lot of router and fibre setups for family and myself.

I'd check drivers and bios on the computer and network card to though windows will usually keep that updated and recent computer makers seem to do a good job to.

Note if you have a phone it usually is the first to sync, apple and android and pc in that order.



On 30/01/2020 1:05 pm, Jason White via Groups.Io wrote:

Has anyone else here encountered the following? I’ve experienced it with several versions of NVDA, including the current version, and with JAWS as well, so it could well be an Outlook issue.

 

Under Microsoft Outlook for Office 365 (including the current Monthly Channel Targeted release), if I have conversation view enabled and then switch to a different folder, Outlook becomes unresponsive and must be closed or restarted. This only seems to happen while switching o an IMAP folder, not one of my Microsoft Exchange folders.

 

I would be interested to know whether others can reproduce.

 
Re: Microsoft Outlook unresponsive after changing folders with conversation view

Brian Vogel
 

I'd try turning it off and see if the issue you're having goes away.  If it doesn't, then at least you've knocked out one possibility as far as the issue goes.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 
Re: NVDA 2019.3 Beta 3 now available

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I just downloaded it and it's working great for me.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 4:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2019.3 Beta 3 now available

 

Hi everyone,

 

As you are all quick off the mark, this isn't completely new news, but confirming that yes, NVDA 2019.3 beta 3 is now available from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta3-now-available-for-testing/ 

 

This is slight progression from the previous beta so you shouldn't notice too many big changes - of course as always happens, as we move closer to the final release, we don't put as many big new features in, but rather try to ensure that everything is stable and fix bugs people have reported in previous betas.

 

If you do encounter any issues, please do report them: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues  If you could also clarify whether they are new issues or existing issues (which hadn't previously been reported) that would be really helpful - both are important to know about, but being able to pinpoint when something started being an issue helps narrow down where to look for a fix.

 

All things going well, this will be the last beta before the release candidate, which will be just before the final stable release.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 
Re: Microsoft Outlook unresponsive after changing folders with conversation view

Jason White
 

Yes, focus inbox is enabled – but only for the Exchange account. To the best of my recollection, it doesn’t work in IMAP accounts. Does that hep to narrow it down?

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Reply-To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 at 19:14
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Outlook unresponsive after changing folders with conversation view

 

Is there any possibility that Focused Inbox could have been enabled?

It does happen, and it seems that while it has its fans, they're relatively few and far between.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 
NVDA 2019.3 Beta 3 now available

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi everyone,

As you are all quick off the mark, this isn't completely new news, but confirming that yes, NVDA 2019.3 beta 3 is now available from: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3beta3-now-available-for-testing/ 

This is slight progression from the previous beta so you shouldn't notice too many big changes - of course as always happens, as we move closer to the final release, we don't put as many big new features in, but rather try to ensure that everything is stable and fix bugs people have reported in previous betas.

If you do encounter any issues, please do report them: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues  If you could also clarify whether they are new issues or existing issues (which hadn't previously been reported) that would be really helpful - both are important to know about, but being able to pinpoint when something started being an issue helps narrow down where to look for a fix.

All things going well, this will be the last beta before the release candidate, which will be just before the final stable release.

Kind regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Re: Nvda start up question

Gene
 

When you say choose your device, it would be good to say after that to up or down arrow to select a device, even if there is only one.  That is, if it is that way in Windows 10.  In Windows 7, even if there is only one device, you have to up or down arrow to select it.  The space bar doesn't work and if nothing is selected, there is nothing but an o.k. button.
 

Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2020 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda start up question

Hi


if it is the sound enhancements doing it one of the tutorials I have not
posted yet might help it is a draft where to look.


Disabling sound enhancements in Windows

Sometimes when there is an update for Windows, you may hear a buzzing
sound (and other strange noises) from the computer while using NVDA.

If this is the case, you will need to turn off sound enhancements in
Windows for your sound card. The steps to turn it off may be similar for
other Windows 10 computers.

Press the Windows key, and in the search box type sound settings. When
it comes up with this result, press the Enter key. The first option
might say Choose your output device Speakers (High Definition Audio
Device). Next, tab once to device properties, then press the Enter key.
The next screen that comes up will say home. If you tab about 7 times
you will then hear NVDA say Additional device properties. Press the
enter key.

The next screen should come up with speaker properties. Shift tab back
once or twice - until you hear NVDA say General. There are 5 tabs there.
Use your right arrow key to get to the enhancements tab, then tab a
couple of times until you hear NVDA say Disable all enhancements. This
should be a check box. Please note, in some cases, after you tab once
(after the enhancements tab) you might need to arrow down or tab to
locate the disable all enhancements checkbox. You will hear other stuff
for the sound card being spoken out, but they can be left unchecked. You
will need to tab to hear the "disable enhancements" checkbox if you
arrowed down the list of enhancements and check the checkbox with the
Spacebar. You will then need to apply and ok your changes with the Spacebar.

Now, those weird buzzing sounds etcetera should be gone!

Gene nz




On 30/01/2020 11:00 am, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
> Hi, check You sound card settings,  some have some sort of advance
> sound I had problems years ago with this and switched all the fancy
> stuff off and this fixed it. I am not sure where to look as As I say
> it was years ago.
>
> On 29/01/2020 05:15, Hugin wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks. I'll try that if it does it again, I am saving this email and
>> thank you. After you mentioned not having so many programs starting
>> up at once, something told e to go look and stupid cortana started
>> itself back up again (I had disabled it) and bing is on though I
>> can't find the stupid thing and I'm looking up now how to find where
>> windows hid it so I can make it stop as well as I use chrome. I get
>> that this has nothing to do with nvda, but I am replying to my
>> original nvda issue to say you may have been right about the too much
>> at start up due to the fact things wer running that I did not have on
>> or intend to be running.My windows 10 likes to undo things I do.
>> *sighs* So missing 7. Anyway, again I'll do this if after those go
>> away again it happens again and thanks so much.
>> I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
>> I get along with the voices inside of my head.
>>
>
>
>
Re: Microsoft Outlook unresponsive after changing folders with conversation view

Brian Vogel
 

Is there any possibility that Focused Inbox could have been enabled?

It does happen, and it seems that while it has its fans, they're relatively few and far between.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 
Re: In-build dual voice in NVDA 2019.3 and above

Mary Otten
 

Shawn,


One synthesizer is enough?


Spoken like a guy who does not read languages other than English, or like a guy who is lucky enough that the synth of choice works equally well for all languages of interest.


Mary

On 1/29/2020 4:04 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hmmm I don't see any reason of switching of any sort weather it be dialect, language unless its to another language or voice.

While testing supernova, I have for example found that testing with a lower quality but performance rich voice works a lot better than fiddling with well all sorts of things.

I think its a bit disjointed to switch synths for all sorts of things.

1 synth is enough.



On 30/01/2020 12:00 pm, Timei wrote:
Hello. I think that everyone knows about such a wonderful and unique addition as Dual voice for automatic switching of voices to sapi 5.
Unfortunately, the developer has long ceased support for the addon and does not get in touch. since 2019.3 requires Python 3, this addon does not work anymore with new versions of nvda.
why not make support for automatic sapi 5 voice switching inside nvda? especially since the source code of the addon is.