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Re: Choosing a Laptop

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Well, she is taking up software engineering, which means that she needs a machine that can handle intensive work loads when she writes her programs.  She needs the space to install the programming environments that she will be working in, which includes IDEs, Debuggers and a lot of storage space because  the writeten programs itself takes up a considerable amount of space, ram and memory.  Furthermore, Lenovo is one of the longest lasting machines out there.  I've had mine for almost 4 years now and it is still performing to it's high standards.  I bought mine for around the same price, might be a bit less, but I've had no issues with my lenovo machine even though I use it for my programming work, plus music production work almost daily.  Sometimes, it is helpful to ourselves to pay for something that lasts, pick our pocket once, but never have to worry about longevity and reliability for at least a few years.  Cheers!

On 3/20/2018 12:33 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
That sounds like it's very expensive.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.

On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X38
0-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS

I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a fingerprint
reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a Braille
notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each one under
$100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that with this
laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would be about
$84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do you all think?

On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Lanie Molinar
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a little
background info to help you understand what I'm looking for. I'm a
college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so I'll be
working with code and developing things. I also have several
disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of RAM.
There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look for or
where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle being
used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For those
on software
development- related lists, I'm interested in what would be best for
a developer. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks.


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Re: DoubleTalk Synth

Antony Stone
 

Surely this is included in the DoubleTalk LT NVDA Add-on listed at
https://jeff.tdrealms.com/index.php?page=NVDA

"This is a driver for the Double Talk LT hardware speech synthesizer."


Antony.

On Tuesday 20 March 2018 at 11:31:48, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
wrote:

Not unless an nvda to synth driver is written I'd imagine.
brian

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From: "Ervin, Glenn" <glenn.ervin@nebraska.gov>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 4:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] DoubleTalk Synth


Hi,
I have a DoubleTalk external synth, that uses a serial cable. I connected
it to a Serial to USB adapter, and my windows 7 automatically installed a
driver for the adapter.
I tried the DoubleTalk LT add-in and it did not work.
I also tried the TripleTalk USB add-in and that did not work either.
Neither show up in available synthesizers.
The Eloquence add-in shows up however, and the other add-ins have always
worked.
Shouldn't it show up in the synth selection?
And is there a way to probe to find the port that the USB adapter is on?
I looked in device manager, and it looks like it reads Comms 001 and 003.

Glenn


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Re: To upgrade to 18.1

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I don't remember exactly when but one thing to watch for is loss of pronunciations dictionary in Espeak. Sometimes you need to manually copy the files over and rename them,but I've forgotten which versions are affected now.
Brian

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From: "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2018 8:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] To upgrade to 18.1


Yes you can update fro 17.3

If you go to the nvda menu then help then check for update to update

From: Ivan Cribb
Sent: 20 March 2018 07:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] To upgrade to 18.1

Please forgive the elementarynature of this question,I am still lerning.
I am running NVDA 17.3. I want to upgrade to 18.1. Can I do so from 17.3 or do I have to do so from ve.addess.
Ivan


Re: DoubleTalk Synth

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Not unless an nvda to synth driver is written I'd imagine.
brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ervin, Glenn" <glenn.ervin@nebraska.gov>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 4:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] DoubleTalk Synth


Hi,
I have a DoubleTalk external synth, that uses a serial cable. I connected it to a Serial to USB adapter, and my windows 7 automatically installed a driver for the adapter.
I tried the DoubleTalk LT add-in and it did not work.
I also tried the TripleTalk USB add-in and that did not work either.
Neither show up in available synthesizers.
The Eloquence add-in shows up however, and the other add-ins have always worked.
Shouldn't it show up in the synth selection?
And is there a way to probe to find the port that the USB adapter is on?
I looked in device manager, and it looks like it reads Comms 001 and 003.

Glenn


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Norfolk Nebraska
402 370 3436
Cell: 402 992 0325
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Re: To upgrade to 18.1

Chris
 

Yes you can update fro 17.3

 

If you go to the nvda menu then help then check for update to update

 

From: Ivan Cribb
Sent: 20 March 2018 07:01
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] To upgrade to 18.1

 

Please forgive the elementarynature of this question,I am still lerning.

I am running NVDA 17.3. I want to upgrade to 18.1. Can I do so from 17.3 or do I have to do so from ve.addess.

Ivan

 


Strange symbols in conversion results in Calculator in Windows 10

 

Hello all,

I've recently stumbled upon some strange symbols which appear in unit and currency conversion results in the Calculator app in Windows 10. Those symbols appear right before and after the numeric results of a unit and currency conversion. in the input and output numeric fields. Usually they are not noticed by sighted or screen reader users, because they are invisible for the sighted and for screen reader users - most speech synthesizers do not read them aloud. One of our bulgarian speech synthesizers however does announce with a sound such strange symbols and that is how we've discovered them. After checking with NVDA's functionality to announce in decimal and hexadecimal form the numeric value of a symbol, I've discovered which are those symbols (well, at least their decimal and hexadecimal values anyway (smile)). And they are as follows:

Before the numeric result: decimal: 8234, hexadecimal: 0x202a.

After the numeric result: decimal: 8236, hexadecimal: 0x202c.

I couldn't find much information about those characters, except that the first one is called "Left-To-Right Embedding" and the second one - "Pop Directional Formatting". Can someone tell me what are those characters used for?

Furthermore, does someone have any idea why are those characters inserted in unit and currency conversion results in the Windows 10 calculator? Is it on purpose or by mistake? If the latter, shouldn't we report this to Microsoft, so they can fix it? And

one more thing - can someone else with a non-bulgarian locale Windows 10 system reproduce this behavior of the Calculator, or this is specific to the bulgarian locale?

Thanks much in advance!

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


Re: To upgrade to 18.1

Sam Taylor
 

Hi Ivan,

You can upgrade directly to the latest version which as you state is 18.1.

Thanks

Sam


On 20/03/2018 16:38, Ivan Cribb wrote:

Please forgive the elementarynature of this question,I am still lerning.

I am running NVDA 17.3. I want to upgrade to 18.1. Can I do so from 17.3 or do I have to do so from ve.addess.

Ivan


To upgrade to 18.1

Ivan Cribb <icribb@...>
 

Please forgive the elementarynature of this question,I am still lerning.

I am running NVDA 17.3. I want to upgrade to 18.1. Can I do so from 17.3 or do I have to do so from ve.addess.

Ivan


Re: FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi,

Yes, it’ll be recorded and made available shortly after the presentation.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 9:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi, Joseph,

 

Will this presentation be recorded like they were in the past?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi everyone,

Please pass this onto others interested in this presentation, especially to Windows 10 users. Thanks, and hope to see you on March 26th.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:20 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi all,

 

Please pass this onto other forums and folks interested in this:

 

Dear Windows 10 users, screen reader developers, Microsoft staff, third-party app developers, Windows Insiders and others,

 

You’re cordially invited to participate in an audio talk by Joseph Lee on Windows 10, to be held on Accessible World Pat Price Tek Talk room on Monday, March 26, 2018 at 5 PM Pacific. In this talk, Joseph will talk about recent changes to Windows 10 ecosystem, demonstrate key features included in Version 1803 (Spring Creators Update), and showcase a mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10, all using screen readers.

 

Topics to be covered include:

 

  • Recent happenings on Windows 10, including introduction of S and Pro for Workstations, Microsoft Store, mixed reality.
  • Key features from Windows 10 Version 1709, including emoji entry, My People, Narrator changes and more.
  • Highlights from Version 1803, including Timeline, Focus Assist, and other changes.
  • A mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10 (you need to be there to listen to/see the demo).
  • Screen reader compatibility notices and future plans.

 

To join, go to accessibleworld.org, then go to Pat Price room. Then download Talking Communities client, and once it is installed, enter the room. Alternatively, the direct link to the Tek Talk room is:

http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2

 

Hope to see you on March 26th.

Sincerely,

Joseph Lee


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

That sounds like it's very expensive.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

I think it is crazy to pay so much for a laptop.

On 3/17/2018 1:39 PM, Lanie Molinar wrote:
I just looked at the Lenovo website since several people recommended
them. They have a 10% student discount on some of their laptops. I
think I might have just found a good one for me. Take a look at this:
https://www3.lenovo.com/us/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-x/ThinkPad-X38
0-Yoga/p/20LH000MUS

I like how it can be a laptop or a tablet and how it has a fingerprint
reader. My mom said that I could get both a laptop and a Braille
notetaker or display if I could keep the payments for each one under
$100 per month. I did some calculations and found out that with this
laptop, if I take 2 years to pay it off, the payments would be about
$84 per month. It sounds like a really nice laptop. What do you all think?

On 3/17/2018 12:44 PM, Andre wrote:
How about computers for the blind.com? Phone: 214-340-6328



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Lanie Molinar
Sent: Saturday, March 17, 2018 11:01 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

Hi, everyone. This is Lanie Molinar. I'm sending this to a lot of
lists at once. Some are tech-related, some are related to software
development, and some are for students. I might have to get a new
laptop soon and have a few questions. First, let me give you a little
background info to help you understand what I'm looking for. I'm a
college student getting a degree in Software Engineering, so I'll be
working with code and developing things. I also have several
disabilities and health issues in addition to my blindness, so I
can't do much physically and spend a lot of my day on the computer
doing schoolwork, taking surveys for extra money, gaming, and doing
lots of other stuff. I'm fairly sure that I want a computer with
Windows 10, not a Mac, although I'm willing to look into a Mac if
that seems better. I would also be happy with something running
Linux. I definitely want something new, not used, with plenty of RAM.
There are so many options that I'm just not sure what to look for or
where to get it. Again, I also need something that can handle being
used all day, gaming, and developing software. My family is
low-income, so I need to get it from somewhere that offers good
payment plans. Can anyone give me some advice on how to choose a
laptop, good places to buy one from, and what I should get? For those
on software
development- related lists, I'm interested in what would be best for
a developer. I would really appreciate any help. Thanks.


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Re: FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Joseph,

 

Will this presentation be recorded like they were in the past?

 

Rosemarie

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi everyone,

Please pass this onto others interested in this presentation, especially to Windows 10 users. Thanks, and hope to see you on March 26th.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:20 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi all,

 

Please pass this onto other forums and folks interested in this:

 

Dear Windows 10 users, screen reader developers, Microsoft staff, third-party app developers, Windows Insiders and others,

 

You’re cordially invited to participate in an audio talk by Joseph Lee on Windows 10, to be held on Accessible World Pat Price Tek Talk room on Monday, March 26, 2018 at 5 PM Pacific. In this talk, Joseph will talk about recent changes to Windows 10 ecosystem, demonstrate key features included in Version 1803 (Spring Creators Update), and showcase a mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10, all using screen readers.

 

Topics to be covered include:

 

  • Recent happenings on Windows 10, including introduction of S and Pro for Workstations, Microsoft Store, mixed reality.
  • Key features from Windows 10 Version 1709, including emoji entry, My People, Narrator changes and more.
  • Highlights from Version 1803, including Timeline, Focus Assist, and other changes.
  • A mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10 (you need to be there to listen to/see the demo).
  • Screen reader compatibility notices and future plans.

 

To join, go to accessibleworld.org, then go to Pat Price room. Then download Talking Communities client, and once it is installed, enter the room. Alternatively, the direct link to the Tek Talk room is:

http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2

 

Hope to see you on March 26th.

Sincerely,

Joseph Lee


Re: FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi,

5 PM Pacific.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi Joseph,

Please, at what time on March 26?

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 9:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi everyone,

Please pass this onto others interested in this presentation, especially to Windows 10 users. Thanks, and hope to see you on March 26th.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:20 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi all,

 

Please pass this onto other forums and folks interested in this:

 

Dear Windows 10 users, screen reader developers, Microsoft staff, third-party app developers, Windows Insiders and others,

 

You’re cordially invited to participate in an audio talk by Joseph Lee on Windows 10, to be held on Accessible World Pat Price Tek Talk room on Monday, March 26, 2018 at 5 PM Pacific. In this talk, Joseph will talk about recent changes to Windows 10 ecosystem, demonstrate key features included in Version 1803 (Spring Creators Update), and showcase a mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10, all using screen readers.

 

Topics to be covered include:

 

  • Recent happenings on Windows 10, including introduction of S and Pro for Workstations, Microsoft Store, mixed reality.
  • Key features from Windows 10 Version 1709, including emoji entry, My People, Narrator changes and more.
  • Highlights from Version 1803, including Timeline, Focus Assist, and other changes.
  • A mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10 (you need to be there to listen to/see the demo).
  • Screen reader compatibility notices and future plans.

 

To join, go to accessibleworld.org, then go to Pat Price room. Then download Talking Communities client, and once it is installed, enter the room. Alternatively, the direct link to the Tek Talk room is:

http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2

 

Hope to see you on March 26th.

Sincerely,

Joseph Lee


Re: FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

Pascal Lambert
 

Hi Joseph,

Please, at what time on March 26?

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 9:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi everyone,

Please pass this onto others interested in this presentation, especially to Windows 10 users. Thanks, and hope to see you on March 26th.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:20 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi all,

 

Please pass this onto other forums and folks interested in this:

 

Dear Windows 10 users, screen reader developers, Microsoft staff, third-party app developers, Windows Insiders and others,

 

You’re cordially invited to participate in an audio talk by Joseph Lee on Windows 10, to be held on Accessible World Pat Price Tek Talk room on Monday, March 26, 2018 at 5 PM Pacific. In this talk, Joseph will talk about recent changes to Windows 10 ecosystem, demonstrate key features included in Version 1803 (Spring Creators Update), and showcase a mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10, all using screen readers.

 

Topics to be covered include:

 

  • Recent happenings on Windows 10, including introduction of S and Pro for Workstations, Microsoft Store, mixed reality.
  • Key features from Windows 10 Version 1709, including emoji entry, My People, Narrator changes and more.
  • Highlights from Version 1803, including Timeline, Focus Assist, and other changes.
  • A mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10 (you need to be there to listen to/see the demo).
  • Screen reader compatibility notices and future plans.

 

To join, go to accessibleworld.org, then go to Pat Price room. Then download Talking Communities client, and once it is installed, enter the room. Alternatively, the direct link to the Tek Talk room is:

http://conference321.com/masteradmin/room.asp?id=rsc9613dc89eb2

 

Hope to see you on March 26th.

Sincerely,

Joseph Lee


Re: Choosing a Laptop

 

On my dell Inspiron 3370, 13 inch, I can completely turn off the touch pad through settings in Windows. I can also, through the mobility center, change behavior of function keys and turn off back-lighting of my keyboard.





On 3/19/2018 8:36 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hello

As a dell customer I don't understand this.

I own an inspiron 13 and under mobility center in windows 10, there is an option to disable the touch pad.

When this is disabled, it is always disabled. Similarly, the function keys being f keys is always enabled. Not this silly going into bios and having to fiddle to make the function keys act normal again.


With that being said, have fun trying to do this on most machines anyway because either the driver will reinstall itself or it will turn itself back on.



On 19-Mar-2018 5:35 PM, Howard wrote:
If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!

My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted, the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious" that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it to always turn on when rebooted.

That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its customers in contempt.

I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps, spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech recognition. here is the link. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch




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FW: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi everyone,

Please pass this onto others interested in this presentation, especially to Windows 10 users. Thanks, and hope to see you on March 26th.

 

From: win10@win10.groups.io <win10@win10.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:20 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] Official invitation: Joseph Lee will be talking about Windows 10 Version 1803 and beyond on March 26, 2018 at Accessible World Tek Talk

 

Hi all,

 

Please pass this onto other forums and folks interested in this:

 

Dear Windows 10 users, screen reader developers, Microsoft staff, third-party app developers, Windows Insiders and others,

 

You’re cordially invited to participate in an audio talk by Joseph Lee on Windows 10, to be held on Accessible World Pat Price Tek Talk room on Monday, March 26, 2018 at 5 PM Pacific. In this talk, Joseph will talk about recent changes to Windows 10 ecosystem, demonstrate key features included in Version 1803 (Spring Creators Update), and showcase a mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10, all using screen readers.

 

Topics to be covered include:

 

  • Recent happenings on Windows 10, including introduction of S and Pro for Workstations, Microsoft Store, mixed reality.
  • Key features from Windows 10 Version 1709, including emoji entry, My People, Narrator changes and more.
  • Highlights from Version 1803, including Timeline, Focus Assist, and other changes.
  • A mystery feature from a future version of Windows 10 (you need to be there to listen to/see the demo).
  • Screen reader compatibility notices and future plans.

 

To join, go to accessibleworld.org, then go to Pat Price room. Then download Talking Communities client, and once it is installed, enter the room. Alternatively, the direct link to the Tek Talk room is:

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Hope to see you on March 26th.

Sincerely,

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Re: Choosing a Laptop

Tyler Wood
 

Hello

As a dell customer I don't understand this.

I own an inspiron 13 and under mobility center in windows 10, there is an option to disable the touch pad.

When this is disabled, it is always disabled. Similarly, the function keys being f keys is always enabled. Not this silly going into bios and having to fiddle to make the function keys act normal again.


With that being said, have fun trying to do this on most machines anyway because either the driver will reinstall itself or it will turn itself back on.



On 19-Mar-2018 5:35 PM, Howard wrote:
If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!

My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted, the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious" that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it to always turn on when rebooted.

That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its customers in contempt.

I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps, spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech recognition. here is the link. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch




--

Howard Lee Harkness
918-416-1420


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Gene
 

I suggest you check prices.  Where did you get this impression or information.  Any computer company may have a wide range of products at a wide range of prices  And that's what Dell does.  it offers computers for all sorts of different prices and capabilities.  I don't rule out any company that has a good reputation.  I decide on comparing products or on whether a certain product has a good reputation and is available at a good price.  And different companies may have some models that are well thought of and some that are not.  it sounds as though you know one person who, for some reason, bought an expensive Dell.  That is no basis for knowing what a company offers and its reputation and if a certain model has a good reputation or not. 
 
I'm not advocating that people buy or not buy Dells.  I'm simply saying that generalizing from one particular is, in a lot of cases, a serious mistake.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 6:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

I'll never buy a Dell. They're way too expensive anyway. I don't want something I have to keep paying on since  2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Howard
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 3:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!

My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted, the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious" that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it to always turn on when rebooted.

That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its customers in contempt.

I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.

 

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps, spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech recognition. here is the link. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch




--

 

Howard Lee Harkness
918-416-1420


Re: Choosing a Laptop

ely.r@...
 

Here! Hear! Jean! I once had a school purchase a laptop with no context key. I Kept thinking it was me not understanding where it was or what key combination would bring it up. Then I started reading reviews. Many were programmers who I learned depend a great deal on the context key. Who knows why that design decision was made, but it had nothing to do with my students sight. The school could not believe that I wanted the laptop returned just cause it was missing one little key.

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 7:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

Can it be turned off by just pressing the numpad?  If so, then saying this feature is one that comes from a company that holds its users in contempt is a real overstatement.  How much trouble is it to press the numlock after rebooting?  If the numpad can't be turned off, that's far more serious.  It has nothing to do with contempt, however.  Manufacturers are always looking for a competitive edge.  Products may be degraded in some way for convenience, or  from a blind users perspective for convenience of the general user.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Howard

Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 5:35 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!

My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted, the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious" that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it to always turn on when rebooted.

That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its customers in contempt.

I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.

 

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps, spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech recognition. here is the link. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch




--

 

Howard Lee Harkness
918-416-1420


Re: Choosing a Laptop

Gene
 

I misunderstood the message.  I thought the numpad was being discussed.  I agree that that is a design flaw and that the option should be available.  but contempt really isn't a good description.
 
In addition, it's easy enough to stop the problem.  You can just put something like a piece of cardboard over the touchpad.  I don't know if a piece of paper is thick enough. 
 
If a Dell had some feature or advantage I thought mattered enough to be meaningful, I wouldn't deprive myself of it just because of this minor inconvenience.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 5:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

Most touchpads have a setting where if a physical mouse is plugged in
the touch pad is disabled.  I have a wireless mouse plugged into one of
my USB ports and the touch pad stays off.

On 3/19/2018 5:38 PM, Ervin, Glenn wrote:
> I wonder if it could be turned off in the BIOS.
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
> *Howard
> *Sent:* Monday, March 19, 2018 5:36 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>
> If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!
>
> My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to
> get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted,
> the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told
> me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious"
> that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it
> to always turn on when rebooted.
>
> That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its
> customers in contempt.
>
> I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is
> probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.
>
> On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria
> <knitqueen2007@... <mailto:knitqueen2007@...>> wrote:
>
> Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from
> Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.
>
> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>] *On Behalf Of
> *Josh Kennedy
> *Sent:* Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop
>
> I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me
> $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd
> burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps,
> spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech
> recognition. here is the link.
>
> https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Howard Lee Harkness
> 918-416-1420
>
> http://howardleeharkness.com
>
>




Re: Choosing a Laptop

Gene
 

Can it be turned off by just pressing the numpad?  If so, then saying this feature is one that comes from a company that holds its users in contempt is a real overstatement.  How much trouble is it to press the numlock after rebooting?  If the numpad can't be turned off, that's far more serious.  It has nothing to do with contempt, however.  Manufacturers are always looking for a competitive edge.  Products may be degraded in some way for convenience, or  from a blind users perspective for convenience of the general user.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Howard
Sent: Monday, March 19, 2018 5:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

If you are an N V D A user, don't buy a Dell!

My blind client bought a new Dell last year. It wasn't a major effort to get N V D A installed, but then I found that every time you rebooted, the touchpad turned itself back on. I called Dell support, and they told me there was no way to turn it off permanently. Since it was "obvious" that nobody really wanted to turn it off permanently, they designed it to always turn on when rebooted.

That is a design defect that can only come from a company who holds its customers in contempt.

I opened the case, and unplugged the touchpad. If you are blind, that is probably something you would have to have a sighted person do for you.

On Mon, Mar 19, 2018 at 10:06 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:

Wow, that's a great price for a lap top. A friend of mine got one from Dell and he's still paying on it since 2009.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Sunday, March 18, 2018 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Choosing a Laptop

 

I got a very good laptop off amazon, it is brand new. it only cost me $290. windows10 home, AMD a6 quad core, 4gigs ram, 500gb hard drive. dvd burner. radeon r4 graphics. runs all my games, word processor apps, spreadsheets, and works well with dictation bridge and speech recognition. here is the link. 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B01NBE6Y5D/ref=mp_s_a_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1521389339&sr=8-3&pi=AC_SX236_SY340_FMwebp_QL65&keywords=laptop+with+amd+a6&dpPl=1&dpID=41XfHrTqzbL&ref=plSrch




--

Howard Lee Harkness
918-416-1420