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Re: NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

Luke Scholey <l.scholey.lists@...>
 

no, Jaws works fine.
In my opinion, it’s either NVDA or an obscure Dell problem that I haven’t figured out yet.
Thanks
Luke

On 13 Apr 2018, at 21:53, Ervin, Glenn <glenn.ervin@nebraska.gov> wrote:

Does it happen with Jaws?
A Jaws demo would allow you to test.
This knowledge might help make NVDA more robust.
Glenn

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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

Agree with all the points raised here, unfortunately it is a Dell and there is no way of accessing any other audio Control Panel.
A USB headset or Bluetooth headset has the same problem unfortunately.
The thing I don’t understand is, why do enhancements matter to NVDA? Why not the same issue with narrator?
Audiodg.exe currently at 2.3 GB ram at the moment haha I’m beginning to loose my mind.
Thanks
Luke

On 13 Apr 2018, at 21:08, enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@gmail.com> wrote:

but the app should have an option to turn off the enhancements. They can't force those. There should be a hidden registry setting or group policy. Sounds like a talk with dell or microsoft is in order. Someone should contact dell, and explain that the enhancements are problamatic with screen reader users, and an option is required to disable them for blind users. Also, if microsoft wanted, it could add an option to disable audio enhancements from the ease of access center.


On 4/13/2018 11:01 PM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. I have seen this on a few newer laptops where there was actually no option in the control panel for realtek or anywhere else to disable the enhancements. It was a serious problem as with speech, it was over driving the audio and there was lots of distortion. there didn't seem to be a way that any of us could find to disable it.


the "dell audio" app seems to be integrated with the realtek stuff with no separate entry for removing it. You can uninstall the driver and get a standard realtek driver but you do loose combo jacks etc when you do that.


I was only using this laptop for a short term contract so lived with it for 5 weeks but this would have been grounds to return one if it were one I owned.




On 04/13/2018 3:50 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
it isn't specific to Dell. Try enabling DTS and IDT sound effects for toshiba satallite l50 series laptops. Thank god there is a disable enhancements checkbox for sound effects, and a disable option in the system tray icon of DTS.

Wait what, dell doesn't allow you to disable enhancements in the sound settings? That is retarded seriously. There should be a check box in the actual realtech control panel, which you will likely need sighted help to access.


On 4/13/2018 4:42 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
It is a Dell yes.
Interesting suggestion there, I’ll give it a go. How do I delete the driver? And also, why do you think this issue specific to NVDA?
I’m not that confident with Dell laptops at the moment, but they seem to be popping up in my life a lot more often.
Thanks
Luke

On 13 Apr 2018, at 13:43, valiant8086 <valiant8086@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.


Is this a dell? If so, I'll need to gloat for a bit. I have a serious hate on for the wave max audio stuff. If it is, a possible fix is to delete the audio driver and reboot. For a short while after you reboot, you'll have a stock windows driver that works fine with the only exception being that it doesn't support headsets with the microphone on the same 8th inch plug in a combo jack, it still records from internal even if you use a headset with a microphone on it. Note though a couple of things, if you end up with no sound, you need a way to recover. I suggest making sure NVDA remote is set to auto start and auto connect in the allow another pc to control this one mode, and if you have another computer handy, restart without doing anything else to ensure you're able to get in from the other computer. Alternatively if you have a USB sound device you could plug in, that'll work.


If this solution works, until the driver updates itself again, you can use the WinaeroTweaker application (free download) to block all driver updates. Dell is really good about making sure your drivers stay up to date so drastic measures are needed to stop it. I don't even know if this will work, when I had a dell for a few days I didn't know about this, so I tried another alternative that worked, denying system write privilages to the realtek folder in program files (and program files (x86) both, but for the system account only If you do it that way, be darn sure you don't accidentally do it to your own account or I won't be able to figure out how to get you to be able to see the folder again to fix it. Deny write and modify to it, for the system account and only that.


Alternatively, if this is recent, let's blame NVDA? Lol



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

<Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>

On 4/12/2018 1:03 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
Correct, my device doesn’t have this so unfortunately doesn’t apply.
Thanks though
Luke

On 12 Apr 2018, at 17:55, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@gmx.com> wrote:

Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Have you tried to disable the audio enhancements, please read below.
Not every audio device has audio enhancements. So this isn't a surefire fix.


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Re: Accessible apps hope?

Rob Hudson
 

Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
This is a known issue. My friend could not get past that screen with windows 7. They contacted the author, in 2013, and ave yet to receive a response as far as I know.
The developer is famous for that. Good product, terrible support.


Re: Accessible apps hope?

Matt Turner
 

weird.

I just listened to an artical from the talking computers magazine, where someone was using it with windows 10.

On 4/13/2018 5:12 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
This is a known issue. My friend could not get past that screen with windows 7. They contacted the author, in 2013, and ave yet to receive a response as far as I know.

On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:06 PM, Matt Turner <meturner2214@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks.

Can anyone using windows 8.1, get hope to run?

I get to the log in screen for pandorra, then the not responding window comes up.

No matter what I do, I can't seem to get it to run past that point.




Re: Accessible apps hope?

Sarah k Alawami
 

This is a known issue. My friend could not get past that screen with windows 7. They contacted the author, in 2013, and ave yet to receive a response as far as I know.

On Apr 13, 2018, at 2:06 PM, Matt Turner <meturner2214@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks.

Can anyone using windows 8.1, get hope to run?

I get to the log in screen for pandorra, then the not responding window comes up.

No matter what I do, I can't seem to get it to run past that point.




Accessible apps hope?

Matt Turner
 

Hi folks.

Can anyone using windows 8.1, get hope to run?

I  get to the log in screen for pandorra, then the not responding window comes up.

No matter what I do, I can't seem to get it to run past that point.


Re: NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

Ervin, Glenn
 

Does it happen with Jaws?
A Jaws demo would allow you to test.
This knowledge might help make NVDA more robust.
Glenn

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Luke Scholey
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 3:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

Agree with all the points raised here, unfortunately it is a Dell and there is no way of accessing any other audio Control Panel.
A USB headset or Bluetooth headset has the same problem unfortunately.
The thing I don’t understand is, why do enhancements matter to NVDA? Why not the same issue with narrator?
Audiodg.exe currently at 2.3 GB ram at the moment haha I’m beginning to loose my mind.
Thanks
Luke

On 13 Apr 2018, at 21:08, enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@gmail.com> wrote:

but the app should have an option to turn off the enhancements. They can't force those. There should be a hidden registry setting or group policy. Sounds like a talk with dell or microsoft is in order. Someone should contact dell, and explain that the enhancements are problamatic with screen reader users, and an option is required to disable them for blind users. Also, if microsoft wanted, it could add an option to disable audio enhancements from the ease of access center.


On 4/13/2018 11:01 PM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. I have seen this on a few newer laptops where there was actually no option in the control panel for realtek or anywhere else to disable the enhancements. It was a serious problem as with speech, it was over driving the audio and there was lots of distortion. there didn't seem to be a way that any of us could find to disable it.


the "dell audio" app seems to be integrated with the realtek stuff with no separate entry for removing it. You can uninstall the driver and get a standard realtek driver but you do loose combo jacks etc when you do that.


I was only using this laptop for a short term contract so lived with it for 5 weeks but this would have been grounds to return one if it were one I owned.




On 04/13/2018 3:50 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
it isn't specific to Dell. Try enabling DTS and IDT sound effects for toshiba satallite l50 series laptops. Thank god there is a disable enhancements checkbox for sound effects, and a disable option in the system tray icon of DTS.

Wait what, dell doesn't allow you to disable enhancements in the sound settings? That is retarded seriously. There should be a check box in the actual realtech control panel, which you will likely need sighted help to access.


On 4/13/2018 4:42 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
It is a Dell yes.
Interesting suggestion there, I’ll give it a go. How do I delete the driver? And also, why do you think this issue specific to NVDA?
I’m not that confident with Dell laptops at the moment, but they seem to be popping up in my life a lot more often.
Thanks
Luke

On 13 Apr 2018, at 13:43, valiant8086 <valiant8086@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.


Is this a dell? If so, I'll need to gloat for a bit. I have a serious hate on for the wave max audio stuff. If it is, a possible fix is to delete the audio driver and reboot. For a short while after you reboot, you'll have a stock windows driver that works fine with the only exception being that it doesn't support headsets with the microphone on the same 8th inch plug in a combo jack, it still records from internal even if you use a headset with a microphone on it. Note though a couple of things, if you end up with no sound, you need a way to recover. I suggest making sure NVDA remote is set to auto start and auto connect in the allow another pc to control this one mode, and if you have another computer handy, restart without doing anything else to ensure you're able to get in from the other computer. Alternatively if you have a USB sound device you could plug in, that'll work.


If this solution works, until the driver updates itself again, you can use the WinaeroTweaker application (free download) to block all driver updates. Dell is really good about making sure your drivers stay up to date so drastic measures are needed to stop it. I don't even know if this will work, when I had a dell for a few days I didn't know about this, so I tried another alternative that worked, denying system write privilages to the realtek folder in program files (and program files (x86) both, but for the system account only If you do it that way, be darn sure you don't accidentally do it to your own account or I won't be able to figure out how to get you to be able to see the folder again to fix it. Deny write and modify to it, for the system account and only that.


Alternatively, if this is recent, let's blame NVDA? Lol



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

<Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>

On 4/12/2018 1:03 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
Correct, my device doesn’t have this so unfortunately doesn’t apply.
Thanks though
Luke

On 12 Apr 2018, at 17:55, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@gmx.com> wrote:

Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Have you tried to disable the audio enhancements, please read below.
Not every audio device has audio enhancements. So this isn't a surefire fix.


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Re: NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

Luke Scholey <l.scholey.lists@...>
 

Agree with all the points raised here, unfortunately it is a Dell and there is no way of accessing any other audio Control Panel.
A USB headset or Bluetooth headset has the same problem unfortunately.
The thing I don’t understand is, why do enhancements matter to NVDA? Why not the same issue with narrator?
Audiodg.exe currently at 2.3 GB ram at the moment haha I’m beginning to loose my mind.
Thanks
Luke

On 13 Apr 2018, at 21:08, enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@gmail.com> wrote:

but the app should have an option to turn off the enhancements. They can't force those. There should be a hidden registry setting or group policy. Sounds like a talk with dell or microsoft is in order. Someone should contact dell, and explain that the enhancements are problamatic with screen reader users, and an option is required to disable them for blind users. Also, if microsoft wanted, it could add an option to disable audio enhancements from the ease of access center.


On 4/13/2018 11:01 PM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. I have seen this on a few newer laptops where there was actually no option in the control panel for realtek or anywhere else to disable the enhancements. It was a serious problem as with speech, it was over driving the audio and there was lots of distortion. there didn't seem to be a way that any of us could find to disable it.


the "dell audio" app seems to be integrated with the realtek stuff with no separate entry for removing it. You can uninstall the driver and get a standard realtek driver but you do loose combo jacks etc when you do that.


I was only using this laptop for a short term contract so lived with it for 5 weeks but this would have been grounds to return one if it were one I owned.




On 04/13/2018 3:50 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
it isn't specific to Dell. Try enabling DTS and IDT sound effects for toshiba satallite l50 series laptops. Thank god there is a disable enhancements checkbox for sound effects, and a disable option in the system tray icon of DTS.

Wait what, dell doesn't allow you to disable enhancements in the sound settings? That is retarded seriously. There should be a check box in the actual realtech control panel, which you will likely need sighted help to access.


On 4/13/2018 4:42 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
It is a Dell yes.
Interesting suggestion there, I’ll give it a go. How do I delete the driver? And also, why do you think this issue specific to NVDA?
I’m not that confident with Dell laptops at the moment, but they seem to be popping up in my life a lot more often.
Thanks
Luke

On 13 Apr 2018, at 13:43, valiant8086 <valiant8086@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.


Is this a dell? If so, I'll need to gloat for a bit. I have a serious hate on for the wave max audio stuff. If it is, a possible fix is to delete the audio driver and reboot. For a short while after you reboot, you'll have a stock windows driver that works fine with the only exception being that it doesn't support headsets with the microphone on the same 8th inch plug in a combo jack, it still records from internal even if you use a headset with a microphone on it. Note though a couple of things, if you end up with no sound, you need a way to recover. I suggest making sure NVDA remote is set to auto start and auto connect in the allow another pc to control this one mode, and if you have another computer handy, restart without doing anything else to ensure you're able to get in from the other computer. Alternatively if you have a USB sound device you could plug in, that'll work.


If this solution works, until the driver updates itself again, you can use the WinaeroTweaker application (free download) to block all driver updates. Dell is really good about making sure your drivers stay up to date so drastic measures are needed to stop it. I don't even know if this will work, when I had a dell for a few days I didn't know about this, so I tried another alternative that worked, denying system write privilages to the realtek folder in program files (and program files (x86) both, but for the system account only If you do it that way, be darn sure you don't accidentally do it to your own account or I won't be able to figure out how to get you to be able to see the folder again to fix it. Deny write and modify to it, for the system account and only that.


Alternatively, if this is recent, let's blame NVDA? Lol



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

<Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>

On 4/12/2018 1:03 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
Correct, my device doesn’t have this so unfortunately doesn’t apply.
Thanks though
Luke

On 12 Apr 2018, at 17:55, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@gmx.com> wrote:

Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Have you tried to disable the audio enhancements, please read below.
Not every audio device has audio enhancements. So this isn't a surefire fix.


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Re: NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

enes sarıbaş
 

but the app should have an option to turn off the enhancements. They can't force those. There should be a hidden registry setting or group policy. Sounds like a talk with dell or microsoft is in order. Someone should contact dell, and explain that the enhancements are problamatic with screen reader users, and an option is required to disable them for blind users. Also, if microsoft wanted, it could add an option to disable audio enhancements from the ease of access center.

On 4/13/2018 11:01 PM, Brian Moore wrote:
Hi. I have seen this on a  few newer laptops where there was actually no option in the control panel for realtek or anywhere else to disable the enhancements.  It was a serious problem as with speech, it was over driving the audio and there was lots of distortion.  there didn't seem to be a way that any of us could find to disable it.


the "dell audio" app seems to be integrated with the realtek stuff with no separate entry for removing it.  You can uninstall the driver and get a standard realtek driver but you do loose combo jacks etc when you do that.


I was only using this laptop for a short term contract so lived with it for 5 weeks but this would have been grounds to return one if it were one I owned.




On 04/13/2018 3:50 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
it isn't specific to Dell. Try enabling DTS and IDT sound effects for toshiba satallite l50 series laptops. Thank god there is a disable enhancements checkbox for sound effects, and a disable option in the system tray icon of DTS.

Wait what, dell doesn't allow you to disable enhancements in the sound settings? That is retarded seriously. There should be a check box in the actual realtech control panel, which you will likely need sighted help to access.


On 4/13/2018 4:42 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
It is a Dell yes.
Interesting suggestion there, I’ll give it a go. How do I delete the driver? And also, why do you think this issue specific to NVDA?
I’m not that confident with Dell laptops at the moment, but they seem to be popping up in my life a lot more often.
Thanks
Luke

On 13 Apr 2018, at 13:43, valiant8086 <valiant8086@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.


Is this a dell? If so, I'll need to gloat for a bit. I have a serious hate on for the wave max audio stuff.  If it is, a possible fix is to delete the audio driver and reboot. For a short while after you reboot, you'll have a stock windows driver that works fine with the only exception being that it doesn't support headsets with the microphone on the same 8th inch plug in a combo jack, it still records from internal even if you use a headset with a microphone on it. Note though  a couple of things, if you end up with no sound, you need a way to recover. I suggest making sure NVDA remote is set to auto start and auto connect in the allow another pc to control this one mode, and if you have another computer handy, restart without doing anything else to ensure you're able to get in from the other computer. Alternatively if you have a USB sound device you could plug in, that'll work.


If this solution works, until the driver updates itself again, you can use the WinaeroTweaker application (free download) to block all driver updates. Dell is really good about  making sure your drivers stay up to date so drastic measures are needed to stop it. I don't even know if this will work, when I had a dell for a few days I didn't know about this, so I tried another alternative that worked, denying system write privilages to the realtek folder in program files (and program files (x86) both, but for the system account only If you do it that way, be darn sure you don't accidentally do it to your own account or I won't be able to figure out how to get you to be able to see the folder again to fix it. Deny write and modify to it, for the system account and only that.


Alternatively, if this is recent, let's blame NVDA? Lol



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

<Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>

On 4/12/2018 1:03 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
Correct, my device doesn’t have this so unfortunately doesn’t apply.
Thanks though
Luke

On 12 Apr 2018, at 17:55, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@gmx.com> wrote:

Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Have you tried to disable the audio enhancements, please read below.
Not every audio device has audio enhancements. So this isn't a surefire fix.


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Re: NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

Rob Hudson
 

Brian Moore <bmoore@screenreview.org> wrote:
Hi. I have seen this on a few newer laptops where there was actually
no option in the control panel for realtek or anywhere else to disable
the enhancements. It was a serious problem as with speech, it was over
driving the audio and there was lots of distortion.
What happens if you use a USB headset. Can you get around this? Or, perhaps, a bluetooth headset?


Re: NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

Brian Moore
 

Hi.  I have seen this on a  few newer laptops where there was actually no option in the control panel for realtek or anywhere else to disable the enhancements.  It was a serious problem as with speech, it was over driving the audio and there was lots of distortion.  there didn't seem to be a way that any of us could find to disable it.


the "dell audio" app seems to be integrated with the realtek stuff with no separate entry for removing it.  You can uninstall the driver and get a standard realtek driver but you do loose combo jacks etc when you do that.


I was only using this laptop for a short term contract so lived with it for 5 weeks but this would have been grounds to return one if it were one I owned.

On 04/13/2018 3:50 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
it isn't specific to Dell. Try enabling DTS and IDT sound effects for toshiba satallite l50 series laptops. Thank god there is a disable enhancements checkbox for sound effects, and a disable option in the system tray icon of DTS.

Wait what, dell doesn't allow you to disable enhancements in the sound settings? That is retarded seriously. There should be a check box in the actual realtech control panel, which you will likely need sighted help to access.


On 4/13/2018 4:42 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
It is a Dell yes.
Interesting suggestion there, I’ll give it a go. How do I delete the driver? And also, why do you think this issue specific to NVDA?
I’m not that confident with Dell laptops at the moment, but they seem to be popping up in my life a lot more often.
Thanks
Luke

On 13 Apr 2018, at 13:43, valiant8086 <valiant8086@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.


Is this a dell? If so, I'll need to gloat for a bit. I have a serious hate on for the wave max audio stuff.  If it is, a possible fix is to delete the audio driver and reboot. For a short while after you reboot, you'll have a stock windows driver that works fine with the only exception being that it doesn't support headsets with the microphone on the same 8th inch plug in a combo jack, it still records from internal even if you use a headset with a microphone on it. Note though  a couple of things, if you end up with no sound, you need a way to recover. I suggest making sure NVDA remote is set to auto start and auto connect in the allow another pc to control this one mode, and if you have another computer handy, restart without doing anything else to ensure you're able to get in from the other computer. Alternatively if you have a USB sound device you could plug in, that'll work.


If this solution works, until the driver updates itself again, you can use the WinaeroTweaker application (free download) to block all driver updates. Dell is really good about  making sure your drivers stay up to date so drastic measures are needed to stop it. I don't even know if this will work, when I had a dell for a few days I didn't know about this, so I tried another alternative that worked, denying system write privilages to the realtek folder in program files (and program files (x86) both, but for the system account only If you do it that way, be darn sure you don't accidentally do it to your own account or I won't be able to figure out how to get you to be able to see the folder again to fix it. Deny write and modify to it, for the system account and only that.


Alternatively, if this is recent, let's blame NVDA? Lol



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

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On 4/12/2018 1:03 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
Correct, my device doesn’t have this so unfortunately doesn’t apply.
Thanks though
Luke

On 12 Apr 2018, at 17:55, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@gmx.com> wrote:

Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Have you tried to disable the audio enhancements, please read below.
Not every audio device has audio enhancements. So this isn't a surefire fix.


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Re: NVDA and Canute multiline display

Antony Stone
 

Can you post a link to that podcast please?

Antony.

On Friday 13 April 2018 at 21:47:56, Andy wrote:

The latest Blind Bargains Podcast eluded to the idea that there will be
such an add on.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: Josh Kennedy
To: nvda@groups.io
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 7:37 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Canute multiline display


HI

It looks like the Canute will be sold sometime around September of this
year 2018. So my question is this… Will there be an NVDA addon to let me
well lets say I am in an excel or google sheets spreadsheet… Could I press
a key combination, and the addon would format and send the spreadsheet for
viewing on the Canute? Or if I’m on the desktop, just dump the current
screen to the Canute? Or if on a website, and if using a reader addon in
chrome or firefox or edge, send the website for viewing on the Canute? Or
if I am in a view of a graph or chart in a spreadsheet like excel, send
all info about, and regarding the chart, to the Canute for viewing? The
canute would be more of a display for reading, not for editing.

The website for the Canute is:

http://www.bristolbraille.co.uk/

Thanks


Josh
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Re: NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

enes sarıbaş
 

also forgot to add that with dts enabled, windows was eating up at least 500 mb of ram with the audiodg.exe process.

On 4/13/2018 4:42 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
It is a Dell yes.
Interesting suggestion there, I’ll give it a go. How do I delete the driver? And also, why do you think this issue specific to NVDA?
I’m not that confident with Dell laptops at the moment, but they seem to be popping up in my life a lot more often.
Thanks
Luke

On 13 Apr 2018, at 13:43, valiant8086 <valiant8086@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.


Is this a dell? If so, I'll need to gloat for a bit. I have a serious hate on for the wave max audio stuff. If it is, a possible fix is to delete the audio driver and reboot. For a short while after you reboot, you'll have a stock windows driver that works fine with the only exception being that it doesn't support headsets with the microphone on the same 8th inch plug in a combo jack, it still records from internal even if you use a headset with a microphone on it. Note though a couple of things, if you end up with no sound, you need a way to recover. I suggest making sure NVDA remote is set to auto start and auto connect in the allow another pc to control this one mode, and if you have another computer handy, restart without doing anything else to ensure you're able to get in from the other computer. Alternatively if you have a USB sound device you could plug in, that'll work.


If this solution works, until the driver updates itself again, you can use the WinaeroTweaker application (free download) to block all driver updates. Dell is really good about making sure your drivers stay up to date so drastic measures are needed to stop it. I don't even know if this will work, when I had a dell for a few days I didn't know about this, so I tried another alternative that worked, denying system write privilages to the realtek folder in program files (and program files (x86) both, but for the system account only If you do it that way, be darn sure you don't accidentally do it to your own account or I won't be able to figure out how to get you to be able to see the folder again to fix it. Deny write and modify to it, for the system account and only that.


Alternatively, if this is recent, let's blame NVDA? Lol



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

<Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>

On 4/12/2018 1:03 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
Correct, my device doesn’t have this so unfortunately doesn’t apply.
Thanks though
Luke

On 12 Apr 2018, at 17:55, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@gmx.com> wrote:

Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Have you tried to disable the audio enhancements, please read below.
Not every audio device has audio enhancements. So this isn't a surefire fix.


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Re: NVDA and Windows Audio Service (audiodg.exe)

enes sarıbaş
 

it isn't specific to Dell. Try enabling DTS and IDT sound effects for toshiba satallite l50 series laptops. Thank god there is a disable enhancements checkbox for sound effects, and a disable option in the system tray icon of DTS.

Wait what, dell doesn't allow you to disable enhancements in the sound settings? That is retarded seriously. There should be a check box in the actual realtech control panel, which you will likely need sighted help to access.

On 4/13/2018 4:42 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
It is a Dell yes.
Interesting suggestion there, I’ll give it a go. How do I delete the driver? And also, why do you think this issue specific to NVDA?
I’m not that confident with Dell laptops at the moment, but they seem to be popping up in my life a lot more often.
Thanks
Luke

On 13 Apr 2018, at 13:43, valiant8086 <valiant8086@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi.


Is this a dell? If so, I'll need to gloat for a bit. I have a serious hate on for the wave max audio stuff. If it is, a possible fix is to delete the audio driver and reboot. For a short while after you reboot, you'll have a stock windows driver that works fine with the only exception being that it doesn't support headsets with the microphone on the same 8th inch plug in a combo jack, it still records from internal even if you use a headset with a microphone on it. Note though a couple of things, if you end up with no sound, you need a way to recover. I suggest making sure NVDA remote is set to auto start and auto connect in the allow another pc to control this one mode, and if you have another computer handy, restart without doing anything else to ensure you're able to get in from the other computer. Alternatively if you have a USB sound device you could plug in, that'll work.


If this solution works, until the driver updates itself again, you can use the WinaeroTweaker application (free download) to block all driver updates. Dell is really good about making sure your drivers stay up to date so drastic measures are needed to stop it. I don't even know if this will work, when I had a dell for a few days I didn't know about this, so I tried another alternative that worked, denying system write privilages to the realtek folder in program files (and program files (x86) both, but for the system account only If you do it that way, be darn sure you don't accidentally do it to your own account or I won't be able to figure out how to get you to be able to see the folder again to fix it. Deny write and modify to it, for the system account and only that.


Alternatively, if this is recent, let's blame NVDA? Lol



Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

<Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>

On 4/12/2018 1:03 PM, Luke Scholey wrote:
Correct, my device doesn’t have this so unfortunately doesn’t apply.
Thanks though
Luke

On 12 Apr 2018, at 17:55, Rob Hudson <rob_hudson_3182@gmx.com> wrote:

Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> wrote:
Have you tried to disable the audio enhancements, please read below.
Not every audio device has audio enhancements. So this isn't a surefire fix.


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Re: NVDA and Canute multiline display

Andy
 


The latest Blind Bargains Podcast eluded to the idea that there will be such an add on.
 
Andy
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 7:37 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Canute multiline display

HI

It looks like the Canute will be sold sometime around September of this year 2018. So my question is this… Will there be an NVDA addon to let me well lets say I am in an excel or google sheets spreadsheet… Could I press a key combination, and the addon would format and send the spreadsheet for viewing on the Canute? Or if I’m on the desktop, just dump the current screen to the Canute? Or if on a website, and if using a reader addon in chrome or firefox or edge, send the website for viewing on the Canute? Or if I am in a view of a graph or chart in a spreadsheet like excel, send all info about, and regarding the chart, to the Canute for viewing? The canute would be more of a display for reading, not for editing.

The website for the Canute is:

 

http://www.bristolbraille.co.uk/

 

Thanks

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: NVDA and Canute multiline display

Antony Stone
 

This is indeed a fascinating device (9 lines of 40 cells, for a few hundred
pounds sterling, instead of many thousands for a one-line display), however if
you read the end of http://www.bristolbraille.co.uk/canute-faq.htm it says:

"Can I Use Canute as a Braille Display for my Computer/Smartphone/Tablet?

"Not yet. Screen reading software typically used to drive refreshable Braille
displays are designed to show one Braille line at a time. Plus, the Canute’s
refresh rate make it unsuitable for editing text. We are actively working with
OS developers to integrate Canute support and expect screen reader plug-ins
will become available to send a document or screen of text to the Canute."

So, don't expect it to be usable with NVDA any time soon.


Antony.

On Friday 13 April 2018 at 16:37:07, Josh Kennedy wrote:

HI
It looks like the Canute will be sold sometime around September of this
year 2018. So my question is this… Will there be an NVDA addon to let me
well lets say I am in an excel or google sheets spreadsheet… Could I press
a key combination, and the addon would format and send the spreadsheet for
viewing on the Canute? Or if I’m on the desktop, just dump the current
screen to the Canute? Or if on a website, and if using a reader addon in
chrome or firefox or edge, send the website for viewing on the Canute? Or
if I am in a view of a graph or chart in a spreadsheet like excel, send
all info about, and regarding the chart, to the Canute for viewing? The
canute would be more of a display for reading, not for editing. The
website for the Canute is:

http://www.bristolbraille.co.uk/

Thanks

Josh
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Re: Using an alternative synth with a portal copy of NVDA

James AUSTIN
 

Thanks for the clarification jean
Best
James

On 13 Apr 2018, at 19:36, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

If they are just SAPI 5 voices, installed and running on the machine being used, NVDA portable will work with them just as it does with any SAPI voices that may have been placed on the machine by Windows.  Until either Windows 8 or 10, Narrator used a SAPI 5 voice for Narrator and NVDA, portable or not, worked with it as it does with any SAPI 5 voice.  
 
If the voice isn't on the computer being used, it must be installed on that computer.  It is completely separate from NVDA.
 
Gene

Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using an alternative synth with a portal copy of NVDA

Hi John

Thanks very much I think my friend uses the SAPI 5 voices. I suspected 
that they wouldwork, but would she havae to copy them i.e. there exec 
files on to the thumb drive or would NVDA's preferences take care of 
initialisation?

Thanks

James


On 13/04/2018 19:09, John Isige wrote:
> Yes. Any synths that are addons, e.g. SVOX Pico, can be copied into your
> portable version with any other addons. Addons you have to license, like
> Vocalizer, can be licensed, e.g. if you do a copy on a portable USB key.
> I don't know how something like SAPI 5 Eloquence would work with
> licensing, it might not since it would need to be installed, but if you
> installed it to a USB drive, maybe it would, although I don't know if a
> Windows system you plugged the drive into would search the drive for a
> SAPI synthesizer rather than its own installed files. The Windows 10
> OneCore voices will work on any Windows 10 system, same with any SAPI 5
> voices installed on Windows, depending on the version. So yes, you can
> use other synthesizers in a portable copy of NVDA.
>
>
> On 4/13/2018 10:39, James AUSTIN wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Is it possible to use a alternative speech synth  to espeak with a
>> portable copy of NVDA please?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 
>





Re: NVDA and Canute multiline display

Cristóbal
 

I could be wrong and I hope I am, but I thought I read that this device for now is more of a stand-alone option. Something to do with screen readers and multi-line this or that that present technical challenges in its current state.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Josh Kennedy
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 7:37 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Canute multiline display

 

HI

It looks like the Canute will be sold sometime around September of this year 2018. So my question is this… Will there be an NVDA addon to let me well lets say I am in an excel or google sheets spreadsheet… Could I press a key combination, and the addon would format and send the spreadsheet for viewing on the Canute? Or if I’m on the desktop, just dump the current screen to the Canute? Or if on a website, and if using a reader addon in chrome or firefox or edge, send the website for viewing on the Canute? Or if I am in a view of a graph or chart in a spreadsheet like excel, send all info about, and regarding the chart, to the Canute for viewing? The canute would be more of a display for reading, not for editing.

The website for the Canute is:

 

http://www.bristolbraille.co.uk/

 

Thanks

 

Josh

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Using an alternative synth with a portal copy of NVDA

Gene
 

If they are just SAPI 5 voices, installed and running on the machine being used, NVDA portable will work with them just as it does with any SAPI voices that may have been placed on the machine by Windows.  Until either Windows 8 or 10, Narrator used a SAPI 5 voice for Narrator and NVDA, portable or not, worked with it as it does with any SAPI 5 voice. 
 
If the voice isn't on the computer being used, it must be installed on that computer.  It is completely separate from NVDA.
 
Gene

Sent: Friday, April 13, 2018 1:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using an alternative synth with a portal copy of NVDA

Hi John

Thanks very much I think my friend uses the SAPI 5 voices. I suspected
that they wouldwork, but would she havae to copy them i.e. there exec
files on to the thumb drive or would NVDA's preferences take care of
initialisation?

Thanks

James


On 13/04/2018 19:09, John Isige wrote:
> Yes. Any synths that are addons, e.g. SVOX Pico, can be copied into your
> portable version with any other addons. Addons you have to license, like
> Vocalizer, can be licensed, e.g. if you do a copy on a portable USB key.
> I don't know how something like SAPI 5 Eloquence would work with
> licensing, it might not since it would need to be installed, but if you
> installed it to a USB drive, maybe it would, although I don't know if a
> Windows system you plugged the drive into would search the drive for a
> SAPI synthesizer rather than its own installed files. The Windows 10
> OneCore voices will work on any Windows 10 system, same with any SAPI 5
> voices installed on Windows, depending on the version. So yes, you can
> use other synthesizers in a portable copy of NVDA.
>
>
> On 4/13/2018 10:39, James AUSTIN wrote:
>> Hi folks,
>>
>> Is it possible to use a alternative speech synth  to espeak with a
>> portable copy of NVDA please?
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>> Best wishes
>>
>> James
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>




Re: Using an alternative synth with a portal copy of NVDA

James AUSTIN
 

Hi John

Thanks very much I think my friend uses the SAPI 5 voices. I suspected that they wouldwork, but would she havae to copy them i.e. there exec files on to the thumb drive or would NVDA's preferences take care of initialisation?

Thanks

James

On 13/04/2018 19:09, John Isige wrote:
Yes. Any synths that are addons, e.g. SVOX Pico, can be copied into your
portable version with any other addons. Addons you have to license, like
Vocalizer, can be licensed, e.g. if you do a copy on a portable USB key.
I don't know how something like SAPI 5 Eloquence would work with
licensing, it might not since it would need to be installed, but if you
installed it to a USB drive, maybe it would, although I don't know if a
Windows system you plugged the drive into would search the drive for a
SAPI synthesizer rather than its own installed files. The Windows 10
OneCore voices will work on any Windows 10 system, same with any SAPI 5
voices installed on Windows, depending on the version. So yes, you can
use other synthesizers in a portable copy of NVDA.


On 4/13/2018 10:39, James AUSTIN wrote:
Hi folks,

Is it possible to use a alternative speech synth  to espeak with a
portable copy of NVDA please?

Thanks

Best wishes

James





Re: Using an alternative synth with a portal copy of NVDA

John Isige
 

Yes. Any synths that are addons, e.g. SVOX Pico, can be copied into your
portable version with any other addons. Addons you have to license, like
Vocalizer, can be licensed, e.g. if you do a copy on a portable USB key.
I don't know how something like SAPI 5 Eloquence would work with
licensing, it might not since it would need to be installed, but if you
installed it to a USB drive, maybe it would, although I don't know if a
Windows system you plugged the drive into would search the drive for a
SAPI synthesizer rather than its own installed files. The Windows 10
OneCore voices will work on any Windows 10 system, same with any SAPI 5
voices installed on Windows, depending on the version. So yes, you can
use other synthesizers in a portable copy of NVDA.

On 4/13/2018 10:39, James AUSTIN wrote:
Hi folks,

Is it possible to use a alternative speech synth  to espeak with a
portable copy of NVDA please?

Thanks

Best wishes

James