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Re: gold wave

anthony borg
 

Thank very much gene for the link.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 22 November 2019 05:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] gold wave

 

Here is a link to the tutorial I did many years ago about using MP3 Direct Cut. 

 

This is the second half of a presentation I did for Accessible World.  The first half is for Audacity and is not included here.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Gene

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:50 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] gold wave

 

I will send you later, I don't have time now, a tutorial I did on MP3 Direct cut a number of years ago.  it should all or almost all still apply. 

 

Gene 
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:39 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] gold wave

 

Hi gene

Can you please explain to me how load mp3 direct cut and how to use it fully?

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 21 November 2019 16:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] gold wave

 

What do you want to do with the program?  You may or may not find that Goldwave is the best for what you want to do. Its always recommended by a lot of people, when someone asks for a recording program, but that doesn't mean it’s the best choice for you.  For example, if all you want to do is record and edit MP3 files, MP3 direct Cut is a much better choice. 

 

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:25 AM

Subject: [nvda] gold wave

 

Hi folks
Can somebody explain to me how to use gold wave or if there is any tutorial
please?
Thanks in advance

Anthony

CAT Tools and NVDA

Bianka Brankovic
 

Hello list,

 

last week at NVDACon I heard someone mention he is using the CAT Tool Fluency with NVDA.

 

At the moment, I am looking into accessible CAT tools (Computer Aided Translation). As my preferred screen reader is NVDA, I would like to ask for people’s experiences with Fluency or Memcate and other CAT Tools.  

 

As this is going to be off topic pretty soon please contact me off list.

 

Thanks and kind regards,

 

Bianka

 

 

Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

i think we have got lots of recorders.
but we need atleast 1 more editor for next years conference.

On 11/22/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
See this page for verification.
https://lifehacker.com/mp3directcut-edits-your-mp3-files-without-decompression-5128814

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 7:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and
my handout


Not if you use MP3 Direct Cut, which edits and changes the same file without
reencoding it, which is why I specifically specified MP3 direct cut. That
is one of the reasons some people use that program, so they can alter MP3
files without loss of quality.

I haven't looked for documentation, but I'm sure I can document that MP3
Direct cut allows for alterations with no quality loss..

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Luke Davis
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and
my handout


On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, Gene wrote:

I don't know what audio work you are looking for. I am an excellent
editor and I do other typical things such as equalize files. I assume you
are working
with MP3 files and I use MP3 Direct cut so I can edit and save the edited
versions of files with no loss of quality.
No offense intended Gene, and I don't want to spawn an audio discussion, but
I
had to address that. If you do anything other than cut an MP3 file--if you
equalize it, if you do some compression, if you do volume normalization or
balancing, or anything else that actually alters audio--and then save it as

another MP3 file, there will be a loss of quality. Especially if you do any

intermediate saves. MP3 is a lossy format, and any time you convert to 32
bit
floating point PCM in order to work on it, which as far as I know all audio

editors do internally, and then save it back out, there is further loss
during
the down-conversion to MP3.

The only way to work on audio with no loss of quality (by work, I mean do
anything beyond cutting out sections which does not have to re-encode), is
to
work on the original wave files if available, but in any case to always save

intermediate steps in a native uncompressed format.
Every time you edit and re-save an MP3,, you are making a slightly more
blurry
copy of an already blurry copy. That is why exporting to MP3 is the very
absolute last step of any mastering operation.

Okay, that's drifting significantly, but I felt like it needed to be pointed

out.

Luke






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Re: Nvda problem in Word

 

I have found that office can sometimes corrupt itself.

At first glance try a quick repair of office from programs and features.

That usually gets it working.

If not, try a full repair.

You will need to reenter your activation again or key but it should be fine.

If you have used the old file converter pack note that past 2010 version of office it may not work.

office 2013 will probably still work but anything over that and you can forget it.



On 22/11/2019 2:54 pm, Quentin Christensen wrote:
I can't think of a reason for this happening, but a couple of things to possibly try:
1. Is it happening in all Word documents?  IF you create a blank document, type a line of text and arrow through it, does it recur?
2. If you've recently updated anything (NVDA, Office, Windows, etc), try going to the Windows shut down menu and restarting Windows.
3. Try restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled.  Press NVDA+Q then down arrow to "Restart NVDA with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER" (as others have speculated, that may be what was meant by accessories being disabled, but I thought I'd mention it just in case).

If neither of those help, if you could send info@... the following:

1) Description of the problem and your system (Versions of Windows, Office, NVDA etc)
2) A debug log of the issue: Press NVDA+control+g to open the general options and TAB to "log level".  Set this to "Debug" and press OK.  Recreate the issue in Word, then press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer, press control+a to select all, control+c to copy, go back to your email and press control+v to paste it into the email to us.
3) If you can attach the Word document it is occuring in, we can have a look at that.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:32 PM Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@...> wrote:
Hi group,

a friend of mine has a problem in word.

Here is, what he wrote:


Hello fans. With NVDA I have a problem when moving in Word. When I open
a document and start to move it letter by letter, word by word, by
sentence or paragraph by paragraph, and NVDA often reads text twice.
E.g. when I move the letters and say, need space, so sometimes when you
press the left or right arrow tells the gap again, even if there is
already another character. When you press the keyboard shortcut that
reads a character on which the navigator object within the review
cursor, to the sign reads. Or when you press the left and right arrow so
it repeats the letter, which was the first down arrow. Do you know what
it could be? I tried to run NVDA and accessories are prohibited, but it
did not help. I have Microsoft Office 2013 and NVDA 2019.2. Michal health.

--
Jarek






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Re: Inquiry about 2019.3

Gene
 

I suspect that the reason Microsoft and Apple both are having the problems they are is because both have stodk-holders to appease and the market has been increasingly obsessed with short-term profits over time in recent decades.  Obviously, and I'm pointing this out as a rhetorical statement, NVDA doesn't have such pressure.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 8:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Inquiry about 2019.3

You are to be commended for your approach to software development. The total debacle represented by the early release of IOS 13 ought to be a good enough example of why not to stick to arbitrary dates for release of a product before it is ready.


Mary

On 11/21/2019 6:23 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Robert,

As Luke said, 2019.3 is not yet in beta, so it will be at least a few weeks.  As we have always said, we'd rather put out something which is stable, than try to stick to an arbitrary timeline.  This next release will be quite a big one - as well as the usual slew of new features and bug fixes (and there are quite a few) there is a lot of behind-the-scenes work in this one, as Luke mentioned.  It has meant that add-ons have needed to be updated, and we have been, and continue to, work with add-on developers to ensure that everything runs as smoothly as possible for users (and for the record, the NVDA Remote developers have now been in touch about updating NVDA Remote).

If you are interested in testing what is scheduled for the next version, you can always try our latest alpha build: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/  It is pre-release software, so it's probably worth leaving 2019.2.1 installed and using the alpha as a portable or temporary copy to test out, just in case things don't work perfectly.  If you do try the alpha builds and have any feedback, it is always welcome, either via email or on GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:25 AM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Hi, its been a quite while for now
I never read anything about with the stable build of 2019.3
I may ask what is the timeline should be wait for the update. Thanks.






--
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Training and Support Manager

Re: gold wave

Gene
 

Here is a link to the tutorial I did many years ago about using MP3 Direct Cut. 
 
This is the second half of a presentation I did for Accessible World.  The first half is for Audacity and is not included here.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] gold wave

I will send you later, I don't have time now, a tutorial I did on MP3 Direct cut a number of years ago.  it should all or almost all still apply. 
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 12:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] gold wave

Hi gene

Can you please explain to me how load mp3 direct cut and how to use it fully?

Thanks in advance

Anthony

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 21 November 2019 16:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] gold wave

 

What do you want to do with the program?  You may or may not find that Goldwave is the best for what you want to do. Its always recommended by a lot of people, when someone asks for a recording program, but that doesn't mean it’s the best choice for you.  For example, if all you want to do is record and edit MP3 files, MP3 direct Cut is a much better choice. 

 

From: anthony borg

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:25 AM

Subject: [nvda] gold wave

 

Hi folks
Can somebody explain to me how to use gold wave or if there is any tutorial
please?
Thanks in advance

Anthony


Re: Inquiry about 2019.3

Mary Otten
 

You are to be commended for your approach to software development. The total debacle represented by the early release of IOS 13 ought to be a good enough example of why not to stick to arbitrary dates for release of a product before it is ready.


Mary

On 11/21/2019 6:23 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi Robert,

As Luke said, 2019.3 is not yet in beta, so it will be at least a few weeks.  As we have always said, we'd rather put out something which is stable, than try to stick to an arbitrary timeline.  This next release will be quite a big one - as well as the usual slew of new features and bug fixes (and there are quite a few) there is a lot of behind-the-scenes work in this one, as Luke mentioned.  It has meant that add-ons have needed to be updated, and we have been, and continue to, work with add-on developers to ensure that everything runs as smoothly as possible for users (and for the record, the NVDA Remote developers have now been in touch about updating NVDA Remote).

If you are interested in testing what is scheduled for the next version, you can always try our latest alpha build: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/  It is pre-release software, so it's probably worth leaving 2019.2.1 installed and using the alpha as a portable or temporary copy to test out, just in case things don't work perfectly.  If you do try the alpha builds and have any feedback, it is always welcome, either via email or on GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:25 AM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Hi, its been a quite while for now
I never read anything about with the stable build of 2019.3
I may ask what is the timeline should be wait for the update. Thanks.






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Re: Inquiry about 2019.3

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Robert,

As Luke said, 2019.3 is not yet in beta, so it will be at least a few weeks.  As we have always said, we'd rather put out something which is stable, than try to stick to an arbitrary timeline.  This next release will be quite a big one - as well as the usual slew of new features and bug fixes (and there are quite a few) there is a lot of behind-the-scenes work in this one, as Luke mentioned.  It has meant that add-ons have needed to be updated, and we have been, and continue to, work with add-on developers to ensure that everything runs as smoothly as possible for users (and for the record, the NVDA Remote developers have now been in touch about updating NVDA Remote).

If you are interested in testing what is scheduled for the next version, you can always try our latest alpha build: https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/snapshots/  It is pre-release software, so it's probably worth leaving 2019.2.1 installed and using the alpha as a portable or temporary copy to test out, just in case things don't work perfectly.  If you do try the alpha builds and have any feedback, it is always welcome, either via email or on GitHub: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:25 AM Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:
Hi, its been a quite while for now
I never read anything about with the stable build of 2019.3
I may ask what is the timeline should be wait for the update. Thanks.






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Re: Reading Margin Comments in Word with NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

If you are using WordPad, NVDA doesn't have the browse mode functionality it has in Word.  I'm not even sure if WordPad can display document comments.

Check whether your document is open in Word or Wordpad.  Certainly, all those other things such as Firefox updates won't affect Word, WordPad or NVDA (outside Firefox itself).

Regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 4:08 AM David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> wrote:
Hi Group,

I recently accepted the latest update from FireFox. In MS Word, 2013,
I have it so attachments open using WordPad. Previously, I had removed
any protection blockers, but that went away with this new version of
FireFox.
Hence, I cannot use any of the recommended to access added comments at
the margins in a word document.
I tried browse mode, I tried insert f7 to open an elements list. Nada.

I am getting a new all-in-one PC, Win10, and will install the latest
NVDA, now using 2018.4.
The issue is these blankin updates from Mozilla.

Where do I find remote support for NVDA, and realize it is a pay-for service?
This is to "damn" complicated for me.
Thanks,
--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...
 "Hakuna Matata" no worries!





--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Re: Nvda problem in Word

Quentin Christensen
 

I can't think of a reason for this happening, but a couple of things to possibly try:
1. Is it happening in all Word documents?  IF you create a blank document, type a line of text and arrow through it, does it recur?
2. If you've recently updated anything (NVDA, Office, Windows, etc), try going to the Windows shut down menu and restarting Windows.
3. Try restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled.  Press NVDA+Q then down arrow to "Restart NVDA with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER" (as others have speculated, that may be what was meant by accessories being disabled, but I thought I'd mention it just in case).

If neither of those help, if you could send info@... the following:

1) Description of the problem and your system (Versions of Windows, Office, NVDA etc)
2) A debug log of the issue: Press NVDA+control+g to open the general options and TAB to "log level".  Set this to "Debug" and press OK.  Recreate the issue in Word, then press NVDA+F1 to open the log viewer, press control+a to select all, control+c to copy, go back to your email and press control+v to paste it into the email to us.
3) If you can attach the Word document it is occuring in, we can have a look at that.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Nov 21, 2019 at 6:32 PM Jarek.Krcmar <Jarek.Krcmar@...> wrote:
Hi group,

a friend of mine has a problem in word.

Here is, what he wrote:


Hello fans. With NVDA I have a problem when moving in Word. When I open
a document and start to move it letter by letter, word by word, by
sentence or paragraph by paragraph, and NVDA often reads text twice.
E.g. when I move the letters and say, need space, so sometimes when you
press the left or right arrow tells the gap again, even if there is
already another character. When you press the keyboard shortcut that
reads a character on which the navigator object within the review
cursor, to the sign reads. Or when you press the left and right arrow so
it repeats the letter, which was the first down arrow. Do you know what
it could be? I tried to run NVDA and accessories are prohibited, but it
did not help. I have Microsoft Office 2013 and NVDA 2019.2. Michal health.

--
Jarek






--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

Gene
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

Not if you use MP3 Direct Cut, which edits and changes the same file without reencoding it, which is why I specifically specified MP3 direct cut.  That is one of the reasons some people use that program, so they can alter MP3 files without loss of quality.
 
I haven't looked for documentation, but I'm sure I can document that MP3 Direct cut allows for alterations with no quality loss..
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Luke Davis
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, Gene wrote:

> I don't know what audio work you are looking for.  I am an excellent editor and I do other typical things such as equalize files.  I assume you are working
> with MP3 files and I use MP3 Direct cut so I can edit and save the edited versions of files with no loss of quality.

No offense intended Gene, and I don't want to spawn an audio discussion, but I
had to address that. If you do anything other than cut an MP3 file--if you
equalize it, if you do some compression, if you do volume normalization or
balancing, or anything else that actually alters audio--and then save it as
another MP3 file, there will be a loss of quality. Especially if you do any
intermediate saves. MP3 is a lossy format, and any time you convert to 32 bit
floating point PCM in order to work on it, which as far as I know all audio
editors do internally, and then save it back out, there is further loss during
the down-conversion to MP3.

The only way to work on audio with no loss of quality (by work, I mean do
anything beyond cutting out sections which does not have to re-encode), is to
work on the original wave files if available, but in any case to always save
intermediate steps in a native uncompressed format.
Every time you edit and re-save an MP3,, you are making a slightly more blurry
copy of an already blurry copy. That is why exporting to MP3 is the very
absolute last step of any mastering operation.

Okay, that's drifting significantly, but I felt like it needed to be pointed
out.

Luke



Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

Gene
 

Not if you use MP3 Direct Cut, which edits and changes the same file without reencoding it, which is why I specifically specified MP3 direct cut.  That is one of the reasons some people use that program, so they can alter MP3 files without loss of quality.
 
I haven't looked for documentation, but I'm sure I can document that MP3 Direct cut allows for alterations with no quality loss..
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Luke Davis
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:52 PM
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, Gene wrote:

> I don't know what audio work you are looking for.  I am an excellent editor and I do other typical things such as equalize files.  I assume you are working
> with MP3 files and I use MP3 Direct cut so I can edit and save the edited versions of files with no loss of quality.

No offense intended Gene, and I don't want to spawn an audio discussion, but I
had to address that. If you do anything other than cut an MP3 file--if you
equalize it, if you do some compression, if you do volume normalization or
balancing, or anything else that actually alters audio--and then save it as
another MP3 file, there will be a loss of quality. Especially if you do any
intermediate saves. MP3 is a lossy format, and any time you convert to 32 bit
floating point PCM in order to work on it, which as far as I know all audio
editors do internally, and then save it back out, there is further loss during
the down-conversion to MP3.

The only way to work on audio with no loss of quality (by work, I mean do
anything beyond cutting out sections which does not have to re-encode), is to
work on the original wave files if available, but in any case to always save
intermediate steps in a native uncompressed format.
Every time you edit and re-save an MP3,, you are making a slightly more blurry
copy of an already blurry copy. That is why exporting to MP3 is the very
absolute last step of any mastering operation.

Okay, that's drifting significantly, but I felt like it needed to be pointed
out.

Luke



Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

Luke Davis
 

On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, Gene wrote:

I don't know what audio work you are looking for.  I am an excellent editor and I do other typical things such as equalize files.  I assume you are working
with MP3 files and I use MP3 Direct cut so I can edit and save the edited versions of files with no loss of quality.
No offense intended Gene, and I don't want to spawn an audio discussion, but I had to address that. If you do anything other than cut an MP3 file--if you equalize it, if you do some compression, if you do volume normalization or balancing, or anything else that actually alters audio--and then save it as another MP3 file, there will be a loss of quality. Especially if you do any intermediate saves. MP3 is a lossy format, and any time you convert to 32 bit floating point PCM in order to work on it, which as far as I know all audio editors do internally, and then save it back out, there is further loss during the down-conversion to MP3.

The only way to work on audio with no loss of quality (by work, I mean do anything beyond cutting out sections which does not have to re-encode), is to work on the original wave files if available, but in any case to always save intermediate steps in a native uncompressed format.
Every time you edit and re-save an MP3,, you are making a slightly more blurry copy of an already blurry copy. That is why exporting to MP3 is the very absolute last step of any mastering operation.

Okay, that's drifting significantly, but I felt like it needed to be pointed out.

Luke

Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Hi,

For this year, we’ve got audio professionals working on this year’s sessions. I think organizers may seek help around the time planning for next year’s gathering is under way – at least for audio engineers.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

I use switch to convert files to MP3.  Your message sounds as though editing help isn't being sought but since the topic came up, I'm offering. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:33 PM

Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Hi,

The event is held via TeamTalk, so folks start out with wave files, edit them, and make them available as mp3’s. Adding to the mix this year is translation of keynote in at least one another language. In the first years of NVDACon, I did most of the audio editing work, but these days, we have a team of audio experts working on it.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

I don't know what audio work you are looking for.  I am an excellent editor and I do other typical things such as equalize files.  I assume you are working with MP3 files and I use MP3 Direct cut so I can edit and save the edited versions of files with no loss of quality.

 

I can use Audacity but I haven't used it nearly as much and I might have to review how to do some things such as I've been talking about with it if you are working with other file types..

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:08 PM

Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Adriani, I too can help with audio production. I have been doing it for almost thirty years.

godfearer@...

 

 

 

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From: coccinelle@...
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Hi Adriani,

Do you mean transcribing audio recording?

If you really you mean “editing” audio recording, how does one do that?

Blessings

Pascal 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of AKH AKH
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Hi Adriani,

 

How can anyone offer help such as audio editing?

 

Andrew

 

 

On 21/11/2019 18:56, Adriani Botez wrote:

Dear Deborah,

 

my name is Adriani, and we organized the NVDACon this year together with Derek, Laura, Austin and Robert.

 

Let me answer to your email as the chair of NVDACon 2019 and clarify hopefully some of your good points.

 

First of all, thank you very much for presenting at NVDACon this year. It was a great presentation and alot of people enjoyed it. I have learned some new things and I hope you could help many users with your good material.

 

As you probably might not have seen during the conference, we have distributed your handout several times, starting about two hours before your presentation. We distributed it through a dropbox link in the chat several times also during the presentation. Though, we cannot make sure that people read it completely. And as you certainly know, many people are more confortable with asking a questoin that might be covered by the handout instead of reading the handout itself. This is unfortunately something that we cannot completely avoid.

 

As regarding the handout and the audio file of your recording, we understand the concerns of users. If possible, we should upload the recording right after the presentation. But unfortunately it is not as simple. Let me explain:

We asked several times through the year if there are people interested in helping us to edit recordings, moderate the conference, engage voluntarely in this wonderful work. And unfortunately we got only two or three new people on the board. But for audio editing we didn’t get anyone else to help us other than the small team that we had last year. And yet this year we will be faster with uploading stuff on the website. But we have to make sure that it has a certain quality.

We do not prefer to distribute your handout without the recording of your presentation because it is something that belongs together. But be sure that we have recorded every session of the NVDACon and we will upload them as soon as possible.

 

As far as professionality is concerned, if we want to be professional, we need more people on the board. We are doing this voluntarely and we have also full time jobs which are not related to NVDA. If people want to invest time in helping us to make this conference more professional, then please, join and organize it with us together next year.

 

Actually, I have also created a youtube channel for the conference. But sadly, there were simply no people to moderate it.

 

And with two chairs on the board only, it is not possible to manage all this work. For a professional conference we would also need a linked in account etc. People often do not realize how much work sticks behind the whole organisation of the NVDACon.

 

I am sorry that I probably cannot fully satisfy your concerns but this is what we have at this time. I hope that the community becomes more engaged and helps us next time to bring this event at a higher level.

 

Last but not least, the conference just ended 4 days ago. I wish sometimes users were more patient when it comes to voluntary work. We cannot compare this with professional online webinars or conferences although I think many users do compare it unfortunately.

 

Thank you Deborah for your feedback and hopefully see you at the conference next year.

 

Best regards

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Deborah Armstrong
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. November 2019 18:58
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

I did the lightning talk at NVDACON on learning foreign languages using NVDA. I really enjoyed the conference, and really enjoyed making this contribution. I definitely want to do a session next year, and will send in my list of ideas to the NVDACON planning team, as soon as I figure out who they are.
I got a lot of private messages and some email from people who were very disappointed my session was cut short. I totally understand why it was done, and I should have planned a full session instead of a lightning talk. But this was my first time, so I didn't want to  have empty time to fill.
Anyway, my presentation included a handout and I was more disappointed there wasn't an easy way to distribute it and that it still hasn't shown up on the NVDA Con site together with a recording of my presentation.
I think if we want this conference to have more professional speakers, we need to be a little more professional ourselves. For example, my handout would have answered many questions users might not have had a chance to ask, and encouraging other presenters to prepare handouts would go a long way towards solving the problem of people being in an inconvenient time zone. Having recordings promptly available too would help.
I know we are all volunteers, but I'd encourage people on the list with skills like writing and recording to step forward and contribute as well, so the few people who are tasked with running next year's con will have more help.

 

Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

Gene
 

I use switch to convert files to MP3.  Your message sounds as though editing help isn't being sought but since the topic came up, I'm offering. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:33 PM
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

Hi,

The event is held via TeamTalk, so folks start out with wave files, edit them, and make them available as mp3’s. Adding to the mix this year is translation of keynote in at least one another language. In the first years of NVDACon, I did most of the audio editing work, but these days, we have a team of audio experts working on it.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

I don't know what audio work you are looking for.  I am an excellent editor and I do other typical things such as equalize files.  I assume you are working with MP3 files and I use MP3 Direct cut so I can edit and save the edited versions of files with no loss of quality.

 

I can use Audacity but I haven't used it nearly as much and I might have to review how to do some things such as I've been talking about with it if you are working with other file types..

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:08 PM

Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Adriani, I too can help with audio production. I have been doing it for almost thirty years.

godfearer@...

 

 

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: coccinelle@...
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Hi Adriani,

Do you mean transcribing audio recording?

If you really you mean “editing” audio recording, how does one do that?

Blessings

Pascal 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of AKH AKH
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Hi Adriani,

 

How can anyone offer help such as audio editing?

 

Andrew

 

 

On 21/11/2019 18:56, Adriani Botez wrote:

Dear Deborah,

 

my name is Adriani, and we organized the NVDACon this year together with Derek, Laura, Austin and Robert.

 

Let me answer to your email as the chair of NVDACon 2019 and clarify hopefully some of your good points.

 

First of all, thank you very much for presenting at NVDACon this year. It was a great presentation and alot of people enjoyed it. I have learned some new things and I hope you could help many users with your good material.

 

As you probably might not have seen during the conference, we have distributed your handout several times, starting about two hours before your presentation. We distributed it through a dropbox link in the chat several times also during the presentation. Though, we cannot make sure that people read it completely. And as you certainly know, many people are more confortable with asking a questoin that might be covered by the handout instead of reading the handout itself. This is unfortunately something that we cannot completely avoid.

 

As regarding the handout and the audio file of your recording, we understand the concerns of users. If possible, we should upload the recording right after the presentation. But unfortunately it is not as simple. Let me explain:

We asked several times through the year if there are people interested in helping us to edit recordings, moderate the conference, engage voluntarely in this wonderful work. And unfortunately we got only two or three new people on the board. But for audio editing we didn’t get anyone else to help us other than the small team that we had last year. And yet this year we will be faster with uploading stuff on the website. But we have to make sure that it has a certain quality.

We do not prefer to distribute your handout without the recording of your presentation because it is something that belongs together. But be sure that we have recorded every session of the NVDACon and we will upload them as soon as possible.

 

As far as professionality is concerned, if we want to be professional, we need more people on the board. We are doing this voluntarely and we have also full time jobs which are not related to NVDA. If people want to invest time in helping us to make this conference more professional, then please, join and organize it with us together next year.

 

Actually, I have also created a youtube channel for the conference. But sadly, there were simply no people to moderate it.

 

And with two chairs on the board only, it is not possible to manage all this work. For a professional conference we would also need a linked in account etc. People often do not realize how much work sticks behind the whole organisation of the NVDACon.

 

I am sorry that I probably cannot fully satisfy your concerns but this is what we have at this time. I hope that the community becomes more engaged and helps us next time to bring this event at a higher level.

 

Last but not least, the conference just ended 4 days ago. I wish sometimes users were more patient when it comes to voluntary work. We cannot compare this with professional online webinars or conferences although I think many users do compare it unfortunately.

 

Thank you Deborah for your feedback and hopefully see you at the conference next year.

 

Best regards

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Deborah Armstrong
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. November 2019 18:58
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

I did the lightning talk at NVDACON on learning foreign languages using NVDA. I really enjoyed the conference, and really enjoyed making this contribution. I definitely want to do a session next year, and will send in my list of ideas to the NVDACON planning team, as soon as I figure out who they are.
I got a lot of private messages and some email from people who were very disappointed my session was cut short. I totally understand why it was done, and I should have planned a full session instead of a lightning talk. But this was my first time, so I didn't want to  have empty time to fill.
Anyway, my presentation included a handout and I was more disappointed there wasn't an easy way to distribute it and that it still hasn't shown up on the NVDA Con site together with a recording of my presentation.
I think if we want this conference to have more professional speakers, we need to be a little more professional ourselves. For example, my handout would have answered many questions users might not have had a chance to ask, and encouraging other presenters to prepare handouts would go a long way towards solving the problem of people being in an inconvenient time zone. Having recordings promptly available too would help.
I know we are all volunteers, but I'd encourage people on the list with skills like writing and recording to step forward and contribute as well, so the few people who are tasked with running next year's con will have more help.

 

Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Hi,

The event is held via TeamTalk, so folks start out with wave files, edit them, and make them available as mp3’s. Adding to the mix this year is translation of keynote in at least one another language. In the first years of NVDACon, I did most of the audio editing work, but these days, we have a team of audio experts working on it.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

I don't know what audio work you are looking for.  I am an excellent editor and I do other typical things such as equalize files.  I assume you are working with MP3 files and I use MP3 Direct cut so I can edit and save the edited versions of files with no loss of quality.

 

I can use Audacity but I haven't used it nearly as much and I might have to review how to do some things such as I've been talking about with it if you are working with other file types..

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:08 PM

Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Adriani, I too can help with audio production. I have been doing it for almost thirty years.

godfearer@...

 

 

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: coccinelle@...
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Hi Adriani,

Do you mean transcribing audio recording?

If you really you mean “editing” audio recording, how does one do that?

Blessings

Pascal 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of AKH AKH
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Hi Adriani,

 

How can anyone offer help such as audio editing?

 

Andrew

 

 

On 21/11/2019 18:56, Adriani Botez wrote:

Dear Deborah,

 

my name is Adriani, and we organized the NVDACon this year together with Derek, Laura, Austin and Robert.

 

Let me answer to your email as the chair of NVDACon 2019 and clarify hopefully some of your good points.

 

First of all, thank you very much for presenting at NVDACon this year. It was a great presentation and alot of people enjoyed it. I have learned some new things and I hope you could help many users with your good material.

 

As you probably might not have seen during the conference, we have distributed your handout several times, starting about two hours before your presentation. We distributed it through a dropbox link in the chat several times also during the presentation. Though, we cannot make sure that people read it completely. And as you certainly know, many people are more confortable with asking a questoin that might be covered by the handout instead of reading the handout itself. This is unfortunately something that we cannot completely avoid.

 

As regarding the handout and the audio file of your recording, we understand the concerns of users. If possible, we should upload the recording right after the presentation. But unfortunately it is not as simple. Let me explain:

We asked several times through the year if there are people interested in helping us to edit recordings, moderate the conference, engage voluntarely in this wonderful work. And unfortunately we got only two or three new people on the board. But for audio editing we didn’t get anyone else to help us other than the small team that we had last year. And yet this year we will be faster with uploading stuff on the website. But we have to make sure that it has a certain quality.

We do not prefer to distribute your handout without the recording of your presentation because it is something that belongs together. But be sure that we have recorded every session of the NVDACon and we will upload them as soon as possible.

 

As far as professionality is concerned, if we want to be professional, we need more people on the board. We are doing this voluntarely and we have also full time jobs which are not related to NVDA. If people want to invest time in helping us to make this conference more professional, then please, join and organize it with us together next year.

 

Actually, I have also created a youtube channel for the conference. But sadly, there were simply no people to moderate it.

 

And with two chairs on the board only, it is not possible to manage all this work. For a professional conference we would also need a linked in account etc. People often do not realize how much work sticks behind the whole organisation of the NVDACon.

 

I am sorry that I probably cannot fully satisfy your concerns but this is what we have at this time. I hope that the community becomes more engaged and helps us next time to bring this event at a higher level.

 

Last but not least, the conference just ended 4 days ago. I wish sometimes users were more patient when it comes to voluntary work. We cannot compare this with professional online webinars or conferences although I think many users do compare it unfortunately.

 

Thank you Deborah for your feedback and hopefully see you at the conference next year.

 

Best regards

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Deborah Armstrong
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. November 2019 18:58
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

I did the lightning talk at NVDACON on learning foreign languages using NVDA. I really enjoyed the conference, and really enjoyed making this contribution. I definitely want to do a session next year, and will send in my list of ideas to the NVDACON planning team, as soon as I figure out who they are.
I got a lot of private messages and some email from people who were very disappointed my session was cut short. I totally understand why it was done, and I should have planned a full session instead of a lightning talk. But this was my first time, so I didn't want to  have empty time to fill.
Anyway, my presentation included a handout and I was more disappointed there wasn't an easy way to distribute it and that it still hasn't shown up on the NVDA Con site together with a recording of my presentation.
I think if we want this conference to have more professional speakers, we need to be a little more professional ourselves. For example, my handout would have answered many questions users might not have had a chance to ask, and encouraging other presenters to prepare handouts would go a long way towards solving the problem of people being in an inconvenient time zone. Having recordings promptly available too would help.
I know we are all volunteers, but I'd encourage people on the list with skills like writing and recording to step forward and contribute as well, so the few people who are tasked with running next year's con will have more help.

 

Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

Gene
 

I don't know what audio work you are looking for.  I am an excellent editor and I do other typical things such as equalize files.  I assume you are working with MP3 files and I use MP3 Direct cut so I can edit and save the edited versions of files with no loss of quality.
 
I can use Audacity but I haven't used it nearly as much and I might have to review how to do some things such as I've been talking about with it if you are working with other file types..
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

Adriani, I too can help with audio production. I have been doing it for almost thirty years.

godfearer@...

 

 

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: coccinelle@...
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Hi Adriani,

Do you mean transcribing audio recording?

If you really you mean “editing” audio recording, how does one do that?

Blessings

Pascal 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of AKH AKH
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Hi Adriani,

 

How can anyone offer help such as audio editing?

 

Andrew

 

 

On 21/11/2019 18:56, Adriani Botez wrote:

Dear Deborah,

 

my name is Adriani, and we organized the NVDACon this year together with Derek, Laura, Austin and Robert.

 

Let me answer to your email as the chair of NVDACon 2019 and clarify hopefully some of your good points.

 

First of all, thank you very much for presenting at NVDACon this year. It was a great presentation and alot of people enjoyed it. I have learned some new things and I hope you could help many users with your good material.

 

As you probably might not have seen during the conference, we have distributed your handout several times, starting about two hours before your presentation. We distributed it through a dropbox link in the chat several times also during the presentation. Though, we cannot make sure that people read it completely. And as you certainly know, many people are more confortable with asking a questoin that might be covered by the handout instead of reading the handout itself. This is unfortunately something that we cannot completely avoid.

 

As regarding the handout and the audio file of your recording, we understand the concerns of users. If possible, we should upload the recording right after the presentation. But unfortunately it is not as simple. Let me explain:

We asked several times through the year if there are people interested in helping us to edit recordings, moderate the conference, engage voluntarely in this wonderful work. And unfortunately we got only two or three new people on the board. But for audio editing we didn’t get anyone else to help us other than the small team that we had last year. And yet this year we will be faster with uploading stuff on the website. But we have to make sure that it has a certain quality.

We do not prefer to distribute your handout without the recording of your presentation because it is something that belongs together. But be sure that we have recorded every session of the NVDACon and we will upload them as soon as possible.

 

As far as professionality is concerned, if we want to be professional, we need more people on the board. We are doing this voluntarely and we have also full time jobs which are not related to NVDA. If people want to invest time in helping us to make this conference more professional, then please, join and organize it with us together next year.

 

Actually, I have also created a youtube channel for the conference. But sadly, there were simply no people to moderate it.

 

And with two chairs on the board only, it is not possible to manage all this work. For a professional conference we would also need a linked in account etc. People often do not realize how much work sticks behind the whole organisation of the NVDACon.

 

I am sorry that I probably cannot fully satisfy your concerns but this is what we have at this time. I hope that the community becomes more engaged and helps us next time to bring this event at a higher level.

 

Last but not least, the conference just ended 4 days ago. I wish sometimes users were more patient when it comes to voluntary work. We cannot compare this with professional online webinars or conferences although I think many users do compare it unfortunately.

 

Thank you Deborah for your feedback and hopefully see you at the conference next year.

 

Best regards

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Deborah Armstrong
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. November 2019 18:58
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

I did the lightning talk at NVDACON on learning foreign languages using NVDA. I really enjoyed the conference, and really enjoyed making this contribution. I definitely want to do a session next year, and will send in my list of ideas to the NVDACON planning team, as soon as I figure out who they are.
I got a lot of private messages and some email from people who were very disappointed my session was cut short. I totally understand why it was done, and I should have planned a full session instead of a lightning talk. But this was my first time, so I didn't want to  have empty time to fill.
Anyway, my presentation included a handout and I was more disappointed there wasn't an easy way to distribute it and that it still hasn't shown up on the NVDA Con site together with a recording of my presentation.
I think if we want this conference to have more professional speakers, we need to be a little more professional ourselves. For example, my handout would have answered many questions users might not have had a chance to ask, and encouraging other presenters to prepare handouts would go a long way towards solving the problem of people being in an inconvenient time zone. Having recordings promptly available too would help.
I know we are all volunteers, but I'd encourage people on the list with skills like writing and recording to step forward and contribute as well, so the few people who are tasked with running next year's con will have more help.

 

Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Adriani, I too can help with audio production. I have been doing it for almost thirty years.

godfearer@...

 

 

 

******

character is found in how you treat people who cannot do anything for you!                                                                       

 

From: coccinelle@...
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 4:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Hi Adriani,

Do you mean transcribing audio recording?

If you really you mean “editing” audio recording, how does one do that?

Blessings

Pascal 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of AKH AKH
Sent: Thursday, November 21, 2019 3:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Helping the Con team. Was: Re: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

Hi Adriani,

 

How can anyone offer help such as audio editing?

 

Andrew

 

 

On 21/11/2019 18:56, Adriani Botez wrote:

Dear Deborah,

 

my name is Adriani, and we organized the NVDACon this year together with Derek, Laura, Austin and Robert.

 

Let me answer to your email as the chair of NVDACon 2019 and clarify hopefully some of your good points.

 

First of all, thank you very much for presenting at NVDACon this year. It was a great presentation and alot of people enjoyed it. I have learned some new things and I hope you could help many users with your good material.

 

As you probably might not have seen during the conference, we have distributed your handout several times, starting about two hours before your presentation. We distributed it through a dropbox link in the chat several times also during the presentation. Though, we cannot make sure that people read it completely. And as you certainly know, many people are more confortable with asking a questoin that might be covered by the handout instead of reading the handout itself. This is unfortunately something that we cannot completely avoid.

 

As regarding the handout and the audio file of your recording, we understand the concerns of users. If possible, we should upload the recording right after the presentation. But unfortunately it is not as simple. Let me explain:

We asked several times through the year if there are people interested in helping us to edit recordings, moderate the conference, engage voluntarely in this wonderful work. And unfortunately we got only two or three new people on the board. But for audio editing we didn’t get anyone else to help us other than the small team that we had last year. And yet this year we will be faster with uploading stuff on the website. But we have to make sure that it has a certain quality.

We do not prefer to distribute your handout without the recording of your presentation because it is something that belongs together. But be sure that we have recorded every session of the NVDACon and we will upload them as soon as possible.

 

As far as professionality is concerned, if we want to be professional, we need more people on the board. We are doing this voluntarely and we have also full time jobs which are not related to NVDA. If people want to invest time in helping us to make this conference more professional, then please, join and organize it with us together next year.

 

Actually, I have also created a youtube channel for the conference. But sadly, there were simply no people to moderate it.

 

And with two chairs on the board only, it is not possible to manage all this work. For a professional conference we would also need a linked in account etc. People often do not realize how much work sticks behind the whole organisation of the NVDACon.

 

I am sorry that I probably cannot fully satisfy your concerns but this is what we have at this time. I hope that the community becomes more engaged and helps us next time to bring this event at a higher level.

 

Last but not least, the conference just ended 4 days ago. I wish sometimes users were more patient when it comes to voluntary work. We cannot compare this with professional online webinars or conferences although I think many users do compare it unfortunately.

 

Thank you Deborah for your feedback and hopefully see you at the conference next year.

 

Best regards

Adriani

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Deborah Armstrong
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. November 2019 18:58
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: [nvda] NVDACon, recordings and my handout

 

I did the lightning talk at NVDACON on learning foreign languages using NVDA. I really enjoyed the conference, and really enjoyed making this contribution. I definitely want to do a session next year, and will send in my list of ideas to the NVDACON planning team, as soon as I figure out who they are.
I got a lot of private messages and some email from people who were very disappointed my session was cut short. I totally understand why it was done, and I should have planned a full session instead of a lightning talk. But this was my first time, so I didn't want to  have empty time to fill.
Anyway, my presentation included a handout and I was more disappointed there wasn't an easy way to distribute it and that it still hasn't shown up on the NVDA Con site together with a recording of my presentation.
I think if we want this conference to have more professional speakers, we need to be a little more professional ourselves. For example, my handout would have answered many questions users might not have had a chance to ask, and encouraging other presenters to prepare handouts would go a long way towards solving the problem of people being in an inconvenient time zone. Having recordings promptly available too would help.
I know we are all volunteers, but I'd encourage people on the list with skills like writing and recording to step forward and contribute as well, so the few people who are tasked with running next year's con will have more help.

 

Re: Inquiry about 2019.3

Luke Davis
 

If you haven't updated to 2019.2.1, you probably should do that.

2019.3 has not even entered beta yet. Since it is still in alpha, it is impossible to accurately predict when it will come out as a completed release.

I think in some people's minds, it will be out by the end of the year. Personally I don't believe that's reasonable, but it doesn't really matter what anyone thinks. It will be out when it's out, be it in December, or three months from now. Even when it is out, you may have good reasons not to install it--in particular if you use certain critical add-ons that may not have been updated (NVDA Remote, for example). So it is perhaps best to just install the current most recent stable version (2019.2.1), and take a wait and see approach to the next one.

Luke

On Fri, 22 Nov 2019, Robert Mendoza wrote:

Hi, its been a quite while for now
I never read anything about with the stable build of 2019.3
I may ask what is the timeline should be wait for the update. Thanks.

Re: NVDACon, recordings and my handout

Luke Davis
 

On Thu, 21 Nov 2019, Adriani Botez wrote:

Last but not least, the conference just ended 4 days ago. I wish sometimes users were more patient when it comes to voluntary work. We cannot compare this
with professional online webinars or conferences although I think many users do compare it unfortunately.
What's funny about that, is that a great many "professional" webinars and such, also have very late recordings, also have trouble distributing files, etc. I am involved with lots of them, and it is very common.

A five day conference done via online presentations (GoToWebinar), that just ended yesterday, and included huge names (not Tony Robins, but people who worked for him, and some big CEOs and such), won't have recordings out for seven-10 days.
And in that case, the recordings are a hundred dollars U.S..

Expecting more than that from a fully volunteer conference, one that does not make any money (unlike the one I used as an example), and which has a very small staff, is entirely unreasonable, and I hope nobody actually does.

Luke