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Re: sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

Luke Davis
 

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Since though in the case of NVDA Remote we are going through servers, if the server owner let's say catches me sending an mp3 to someone via NVDA remote of
the latest launch that happened last Saturday, I think they would probably have my head. Lol! And this is not using nvda remote servers either, this is a
custom one someone set up.
There will have to be a terms of service document of some sort to protect remote server operators

But the transfer should be encrypted: the remote operator should never be able to determine anything of the contents that is moving across the session, be it keyboard input or files.

So if he catches you, he is the one unethically snooping.

Luke


Re: sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

Sarah k Alawami
 

That's true, I remember sendlink. I still don't really see this an option. I saw team viewer working that way when an aira agent copied a web address from my address bar to their clipboard and pasted into an incognito browser window.

Since though in the case of NVDA Remote we are going through servers, if the server owner let's say catches me sending an mp3 to someone via NVDA remote of the latest launch that happened last Saturday, I think they would probably have my head. Lol! And this is not using nvda remote servers either, this is a custom one someone set up.

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On 6 Jun 2020, at 21:09, Luke Davis wrote:

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I would guess not. I can see a legal battle if that were to ever be implemented.

Why, Sarah? Every other remote desktop platform out there can move files from one machine to the other. I know people who run their whole business that way: moving files to and from remote computers at remote locations without human employees via the Splashtop remote desktop tool, which they also use to control what happens to those files.

NVDA Remote really needs this capability.

If you let someone you don't trust into your computer, then you bear the outcome.

That aside, if someone is doing a remote session and really badly wants a file from you, there are several ways they can acquire it--SCP from your machine to another, a web uploader, an email attachment, good old FTP, and more.
It's all just much less convenient than having the remote desktop software do it.

Luke


Re: sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

Luke Davis
 

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, Kevin Cussick via groups.io wrote:

Hi, this only works with text right? You can not copy a file from local machine and send it to the remote machine?
I have not tried it with graphical content or other formatted type text or data.
I have transferred word documents this way, by opening them on the remote, selecting all, copying, sending it to the control, and pasting into another word document on my local machine.

A pain, but it works.

And if there is a MIME encoder (or UU Encoder) on the remote, any file could be losslessly converted to text and moved this way. But that is a lot of effort.

Luke


Re: sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

Luke Davis
 

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I would guess not. I can see a legal battle if that were to ever be implemented.
Why, Sarah? Every other remote desktop platform out there can move files from one machine to the other. I know people who run their whole business that way: moving files to and from remote computers at remote locations without human employees via the Splashtop remote desktop tool, which they also use to control what happens to those files.

NVDA Remote really needs this capability.

If you let someone you don't trust into your computer, then you bear the outcome.

That aside, if someone is doing a remote session and really badly wants a file from you, there are several ways they can acquire it--SCP from your machine to another, a web uploader, an email attachment, good old FTP, and more.
It's all just much less convenient than having the remote desktop software do it.

Luke


Re: Eloquence and NVDA

Socheat Muth
 

No problem Sarah, I already had the driver. And I'd rather using it than the Code Factory one. Thanks for the offer though.

On 6/7/2020 9:47 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

If you want something similar google the ibm tts add on. You will need to supply your own ibm dll but I have an add on someone put together that someone bundled with the dll. I can give it if anyone is intrested , ti works with nvda 19.1 and higher. Do not have rate boost on as you will get weird results when switching devices.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Jun 2020, at 19:22, Socheat Muth wrote:

The Code Factory version of Eloquence has weird pronunciation in some words. It isn't worth 70 or something dollars IMO. And the Vocalizer voices that are bundled with eloquence lag as hell.

On 6/6/2020 9:32 PM, Hareth wrote:

Had to reply even with the fact its not a direct NVDA issue.
Code factory good days are gone.
I got the impression they just higher part time developers to patch
their software for the newr OS releases.
Now they have the worst licensing check on android
And windows, plus they simply a banded Eloquence development after
they sold it overpriced to almost all the blind people that used to
use that TTS engine.
That as well speaks volumes on their behalf.

On 6/6/20, Marquette, Ed ed.marquette@... wrote:

Let me encourage you to beware of CodeFactory.
I bought the CodeFactory Eloquence about two years ago from CodeFactory,
mostly because I had become used to Eloquence with JAWS.
After installing and reinstalling it without success, our IT Department (and
we have over 1,000 employees and an IT staff of over 20 people),
CodeFactory’s technical support just said “Sorry.”
Certainly, our level of security is higher than most, but for technical
support simply to give up and not even offer a refund left our IT Department
and me amazed. What kind of organization does that?
It was only $30, but for me, it is a matter of integrity. I might have
refused an offer of a refund, but not even to offer one spoke volumes to me
about the integrity of the organization.
I’m happy with Microsoft’s One Core voices. In fact, when I use JAWS with
Eloquence, it is just a bit unpleasant now.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Rui Fontes via
groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA

[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ]

Hello! In private and to the group.

You can use the SAPI5 version of Eloquence or the NVDA add-on sold by
CodeFactory.

As the NVDA add-on have a bad sound on some systems, I recommend to test the
add-on or buy the SAPI5 version...

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Às 23:22 de 05/06/2020, Grant Metcalf escreveu:
I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the
voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.
Grant Metcalf
Email: the.gems@...the.gems@...

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Re: Eloquence and NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

If you want something similar google the ibm tts add on. You will need to supply your own ibm dll but I have an add on someone put together that someone bundled with the dll. I can give it if anyone is intrested , ti works with nvda 19.1 and higher. Do not have rate boost on as you will get weird results when switching devices.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Jun 2020, at 19:22, Socheat Muth wrote:

The Code Factory version of Eloquence has weird pronunciation in some words. It isn't worth 70 or something dollars IMO. And the Vocalizer voices that are bundled with eloquence lag as hell.

On 6/6/2020 9:32 PM, Hareth wrote:

Had to reply even with the fact its not a direct NVDA issue.
Code factory good days are gone.
I got the impression they just higher part time developers to patch
their software for the newr OS releases.
Now they have the worst licensing check on android
And windows, plus they simply a banded Eloquence development after
they sold it overpriced to almost all the blind people that used to
use that TTS engine.
That as well speaks volumes on their behalf.

On 6/6/20, Marquette, Ed ed.marquette@... wrote:

Let me encourage you to beware of CodeFactory.
I bought the CodeFactory Eloquence about two years ago from CodeFactory,
mostly because I had become used to Eloquence with JAWS.
After installing and reinstalling it without success, our IT Department (and
we have over 1,000 employees and an IT staff of over 20 people),
CodeFactory’s technical support just said “Sorry.”
Certainly, our level of security is higher than most, but for technical
support simply to give up and not even offer a refund left our IT Department
and me amazed. What kind of organization does that?
It was only $30, but for me, it is a matter of integrity. I might have
refused an offer of a refund, but not even to offer one spoke volumes to me
about the integrity of the organization.
I’m happy with Microsoft’s One Core voices. In fact, when I use JAWS with
Eloquence, it is just a bit unpleasant now.

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Rui Fontes via
groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA

[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ]

Hello! In private and to the group.

You can use the SAPI5 version of Eloquence or the NVDA add-on sold by
CodeFactory.

As the NVDA add-on have a bad sound on some systems, I recommend to test the
add-on or buy the SAPI5 version...

Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.

Às 23:22 de 05/06/2020, Grant Metcalf escreveu:
I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the
voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.
Grant Metcalf
Email: the.gems@...the.gems@...

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Re: Eloquence and NVDA

Socheat Muth
 

The Code Factory version of Eloquence has weird pronunciation in some words. It isn't worth 70 or something dollars IMO. And the Vocalizer voices that are bundled with eloquence lag as hell.

On 6/6/2020 9:32 PM, Hareth wrote:
Had to reply even with the fact its not a direct NVDA issue.
Code factory good days are gone.
I got the impression they just higher part time developers to patch
their software for the newr OS releases.
Now they have the worst licensing check on android
And windows, plus they simply a banded Eloquence development after
they sold it overpriced to almost all the blind people that used to
use that TTS engine.
That as well speaks volumes on their behalf.

On 6/6/20, Marquette, Ed <ed.marquette@...> wrote:
Let me encourage you to beware of CodeFactory.
I bought the CodeFactory Eloquence about two years ago from CodeFactory,
mostly because I had become used to Eloquence with JAWS.
After installing and reinstalling it without success, our IT Department (and
we have over 1,000 employees and an IT staff of over 20 people),
CodeFactory’s technical support just said “Sorry.”
Certainly, our level of security is higher than most, but for technical
support simply to give up and not even offer a refund left our IT Department
and me amazed. What kind of organization does that?
It was only $30, but for me, it is a matter of integrity. I might have
refused an offer of a refund, but not even to offer one spoke volumes to me
about the integrity of the organization.
I’m happy with Microsoft’s One Core voices. In fact, when I use JAWS with
Eloquence, it is just a bit unpleasant now.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes via
groups.io
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 5:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; the.gems@...
Subject: Re: [nvda] Eloquence and NVDA

[ CAUTION - EXTERNAL SENDER ]

Hello! In private and to the group.



You can use the SAPI5 version of Eloquence or the NVDA add-on sold by
CodeFactory.

As the NVDA add-on have a bad sound on some systems, I recommend to test the
add-on or buy the SAPI5 version...



Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 23:22 de 05/06/2020, Grant Metcalf escreveu:
I am wondering if the Eloquence voices will work with NVDA? I prefer the
voice bryan and hope it will work. Please answer me directly if possible.
Grant Metcalf
Email: the.gems@...<mailto:the.gems@...>






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recipients above and may contain information
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Re: sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

Sarah k Alawami
 

I would guess not. I can see a legal battle if that were to ever be implemented.

Take care

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Jun 2020, at 13:38, Kevin Cussick via groups.io wrote:

Hi, this only works with text right? You can not copy a file from local machine and send it to the remote machine?

On 06/06/2020 11:14, Chris Mullins wrote:

                Hi

Yes, it works fine.  Just copy the text to the clipboard on the controlling computer then run the command.  Switch to the controlled computer and paste the text into whereever you want.

Cheers

Chris

*From: *Robert Doc Wright godfearer godfearer@...
*Sent: *06 June 2020 09:54
*To: *NVDA SUPPORT nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject: *[nvda] sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

Has anyone gotten this command to work?


Re: sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, this only works with text right? You can not copy a file from local machine and send it to the remote machine?

On 06/06/2020 11:14, Chris Mullins wrote:
                Hi
Yes, it works fine.  Just copy the text to the clipboard on the controlling computer then run the command.  Switch to the controlled computer and paste the text into whereever you want.
Cheers
Chris
*From: *Robert Doc Wright godfearer <mailto:godfearer@...>
*Sent: *06 June 2020 09:54
*To: *NVDA SUPPORT <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine
Has anyone gotten this command to work?


Re: tubi add on?

JM Casey
 

I’m interested too because I like the sound of limitless old cult films at my fingertips so I’ve been thinking of trying out this service.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: June 6, 2020 4:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] tubi add on?

 

Oh, my bad. I thought they meant something like to download youtube movies etc which I do all the time. I had a similarly named program once hwnce why I got confused, sorry about that.

Good luck in your finding the answer as I'm out.

Blessings and happy Saturday

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Jun 2020, at 12:38, JM Casey wrote:

The youtube keystrokes work absolutely great in chrome, but the person there is talking about tubi, not youtube…

I haven’t really looked into tubi but it’s a great resource for cult movie fans especially as they stream a lot of stuff on there.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: June 6, 2020 3:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] tubi add on?

 

Have you tried the youtube website at all in trhe past few months? I don't use youtube anymore infavore of lbry [library] but they have keystrokes for just about everythign now a days from starting to stoping to rewinding to the seak slider. Google for youtube web keyboard shortcuts.

Good luck.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Jun 2020, at 12:08, Ame wrote:

Hi all!

 

I like to use Tubi on my computer… or, I did.  All of a sudden, I can’t get the video I’ve chosen to play.  It started this a few weeks ago.  Is there an add on for Tubi?  Is there anything I can do in my browser settings or something?

 

Thanks

 

Ame


Re: tubi add on?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Oh, my bad. I thought they meant something like to download youtube movies etc which I do all the time. I had a similarly named program once hwnce why I got confused, sorry about that.

Good luck in your finding the answer as I'm out.

Blessings and happy Saturday

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Jun 2020, at 12:38, JM Casey wrote:

The youtube keystrokes work absolutely great in chrome, but the person there is talking about tubi, not youtube…

I haven’t really looked into tubi but it’s a great resource for cult movie fans especially as they stream a lot of stuff on there.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: June 6, 2020 3:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] tubi add on?

 

Have you tried the youtube website at all in trhe past few months? I don't use youtube anymore infavore of lbry [library] but they have keystrokes for just about everythign now a days from starting to stoping to rewinding to the seak slider. Google for youtube web keyboard shortcuts.

Good luck.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Jun 2020, at 12:08, Ame wrote:

Hi all!

 

I like to use Tubi on my computer… or, I did.  All of a sudden, I can’t get the video I’ve chosen to play.  It started this a few weeks ago.  Is there an add on for Tubi?  Is there anything I can do in my browser settings or something?

 

Thanks

 

Ame


Re: tubi add on?

JM Casey
 

The youtube keystrokes work absolutely great in chrome, but the person there is talking about tubi, not youtube…

I haven’t really looked into tubi but it’s a great resource for cult movie fans especially as they stream a lot of stuff on there.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: June 6, 2020 3:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] tubi add on?

 

Have you tried the youtube website at all in trhe past few months? I don't use youtube anymore infavore of lbry [library] but they have keystrokes for just about everythign now a days from starting to stoping to rewinding to the seak slider. Google for youtube web keyboard shortcuts.

Good luck.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Jun 2020, at 12:08, Ame wrote:

Hi all!

 

I like to use Tubi on my computer… or, I did.  All of a sudden, I can’t get the video I’ve chosen to play.  It started this a few weeks ago.  Is there an add on for Tubi?  Is there anything I can do in my browser settings or something?

 

Thanks

 

Ame


Re: tubi add on?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Have you tried the youtube website at all in trhe past few months? I don't use youtube anymore infavore of lbry [library] but they have keystrokes for just about everythign now a days from starting to stoping to rewinding to the seak slider. Google for youtube web keyboard shortcuts.

Good luck.

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 6 Jun 2020, at 12:08, Ame wrote:

Hi all!

 

I like to use Tubi on my computer… or, I did.  All of a sudden, I can’t get the video I’ve chosen to play.  It started this a few weeks ago.  Is there an add on for Tubi?  Is there anything I can do in my browser settings or something?

 

Thanks

 

Ame


tubi add on?

Ame
 

Hi all!

 

I like to use Tubi on my computer… or, I did.  All of a sudden, I can’t get the video I’ve chosen to play.  It started this a few weeks ago.  Is there an add on for Tubi?  Is there anything I can do in my browser settings or something?

 

Thanks

 

Ame


Re: New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Jane,


Try calling microsoft again. You might get a different person. I've found them to be very helpful when I had trouble with something.


Rosemarie



On 6/6/2020 2:21 AM, Jane Carona wrote:

Good morning, (or whatever time it is where you are, I’m not really sure).  Anyway, Thanks so much for writing back.  I’ll check out that github thing, never heard of it.  And I’ll send you both spreadsheets so you can have a look.  The one that’s called my books data base a-l is the one where half the columns don’t read properly, with crossing by night showing as “title”, and suspense showing instead of the column title genre.  The spreadsheet called my books data base m-z works fine.  And now I’m having trouble with NVDA and Outlook, where I’m happily typing along and NVDA freezes and when I get it back I’ve lost the message I’ve been typing!  I’m back in Jaws now, never thought I’d have to do that!  Things were fine until yesterday when I had a guy from Microsoft accessibility reinstall my NVDA in hopes that that would fix the excel issue.  This has been a struggle, I can tell you. 

 

Anyway, attached are the two spreadsheets, see what you think.  And I do have whatsapp, so maybe if you want, we could talk that way.  We Excel people need to stick together!  My mobile number is 301-922-2994.  Those of us in the United States are so provincial, that I haven’t a clue about a country code, sorry.

 

Jane

                               

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 6:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

 

Great to meet you, jane!

 

I appreciate the difficulty with wading through full data in the cell before getting the feedback on which column is in focus. I believe there is pressure on the programmers to bring in a change to allow the user to choose whether to have column title before the data or after.

 

Have a look through this discussion on Github:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4629

 

NVDA is an ongoing project and bits are being developed all the time. It seems there was early pressure to give the data before the column title but that might have been because cell coordinates were also getting in the way.  It is a good idea to get familiar with Github so that you can raise issues with the developers and build a case within the community of developers and users.

 

I am puzzled by your problem on the second worksheet. Could you forward it to me privately  at my email below and let me see what is happening? I promise to destroy it after I understand what is happening and will, of course, keep it private.

 

There is no logical reason why the column title would drop to the second row without actually being assigned to that row before the first row was inserted. Guessing is futile! I would need to run through the actual table.

 

Alternatively, you could ring my mobile in Facetime or WhatsApp and I could walk through the issue with you with NVDA turned on and speaking.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jane Carona
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 11:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

 

Hi Cearbhall,

Thanks so much for writing, it’s so great to talk to someone who uses Excel as much as I do!  Let me see if I can explain my problem:

 

I have two spreadsheets that are the same, except that one has books a-l and the other has books m-z, each is over ten thousand records.  One spreadsheet reads fine, with the titles in row 1 and the data starting in row 2.  In the other spreadsheet, moving across, some of the column titles read fine, but about half of them, the NVDA reads the data from row 2, the first line of data, as the title.  I followed what the user guide said and put my cursor in b1 and hit insert-shift-C, and that worked for most of my spreadsheets, but not for this one.  So I plunked the data from the bad spreadsheet onto the bottom of the good one, so now I have one spreadsheet with 29207 records in it, and the column titles read fine.

 

My problem now is that I wish I could get NVDA to read the column title before the data instead of after it.  Is there any way to do that?

 

Thanks so much for your help!

 

Happy Excelling!

 

Jane

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 4:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Excel and NVDA

 

Hi Jane,

 

I am a keen user of Excel with NVDA. I use it almost every day. I would be happy to answer any queries you have.

 

I wonder exactly what problem you are finding with column headings?

 

I note that you start your columns one column in and one row down from the top. That is no problem. Place your cursor on cell b2 and press NVDA+shift+c. This will fix b2 as the start of the column headings. If there is a break in row 2, the column title will stop being spoken with the last column before the break. Simply move the cursor on row 2 to the right until you get to the first filled cell after the break and press control+shift+c again. This will set the whole row to be the next set of column headings until the next empty cell in row 2. Repeat this until all the column cells are enabled as column headings. Each column will be echoed even if you are moving on the 1048576th row of the table.

 

The trick is to watch the gaps.

 

Let me know if this solves your difficulty and let me know if I can answer any more questions for you! I write complex formulas and macros with no problem using NVDA. It is a great product!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jane Carona
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 8:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Address for NVDA support

 

I don’t use row titles, just column titles in row 1.  I usually have column A blank, just because that’s how I did it in WindowEyes.  So my data starts in B2, and goes from b2 to p17288.  Not sure what else I can do at this point.  I’d sure hate to have to go back to jaws, but if I can’t read the column titles of my big spreadsheets, I may have to.

 

 


Re: New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

 
Edited

On Sat, Jun 6, 2020 at 11:51 AM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra wrote:

I think it would help to know what versions of your software you are using.

  1. What version of Windows? You can get this by typing Winver in the start menu.
  2. 2 What version of NVDA?
  3. What version of Outlook?
  4. What version of JAWS?
The following is not aimed at Jane, or any individual in particular, but not only "would it help," it's essential information.

It is not adequate when asking for technical support, on anything, to be vague about what's in use.  "The latest" is vague.  NVDA 2020.1, Windows 10 Version 1909 Build 18363.836, Outlook 2016, and the like is not.

There are times, and while they're not for every answer they're plenty frequent, where the ability of an assistant to offer the correct information hinges on knowing exactly what's being used.

So, dear members, it is definitely worth creating a small text file that includes your operating system and software versions so that you can copy and paste same into the beginning of topics when needed to establish the context precisely.  You can either offer it up front, or have it requested down the line, and some assistants won't request, they'll just move on.
 
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Re: New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Jane,

 

What a day you seem to be having!

 

First of all, there was no attachment in the email. Could you try to send it to me again, please?

 

I think it would help to know what versions of your software you are using.

  1. What version of Windows? You can get this by typing Winver in the start menu.
  2. 2 What version of NVDA?
  3. What version of Outlook?
  4. What version of JAWS?

 

I have never had any problem with downloading and installing NVDA. I wonder if your Microsoft helper installed an old version?

 

I did not sign in to Github to get the information that I sent you. If you just click on the link in that email, you should find yourself on those messages.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jane Carona
Sent: Saturday, June 6, 2020 10:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

 

Good morning, (or whatever time it is where you are, I’m not really sure).  Anyway, Thanks so much for writing back.  I’ll check out that github thing, never heard of it.  And I’ll send you both spreadsheets so you can have a look.  The one that’s called my books data base a-l is the one where half the columns don’t read properly, with crossing by night showing as “title”, and suspense showing instead of the column title genre.  The spreadsheet called my books data base m-z works fine.  And now I’m having trouble with NVDA and Outlook, where I’m happily typing along and NVDA freezes and when I get it back I’ve lost the message I’ve been typing!  I’m back in Jaws now, never thought I’d have to do that!  Things were fine until yesterday when I had a guy from Microsoft accessibility reinstall my NVDA in hopes that that would fix the excel issue.  This has been a struggle, I can tell you. 

 

Anyway, attached are the two spreadsheets, see what you think.  And I do have whatsapp, so maybe if you want, we could talk that way.  We Excel people need to stick together!  My mobile number is 301-922-2994.  Those of us in the United States are so provincial, that I haven’t a clue about a country code, sorry.

 

Jane

                               

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 6:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

 

Great to meet you, jane!

 

I appreciate the difficulty with wading through full data in the cell before getting the feedback on which column is in focus. I believe there is pressure on the programmers to bring in a change to allow the user to choose whether to have column title before the data or after.

 

Have a look through this discussion on Github:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/4629

 

NVDA is an ongoing project and bits are being developed all the time. It seems there was early pressure to give the data before the column title but that might have been because cell coordinates were also getting in the way.  It is a good idea to get familiar with Github so that you can raise issues with the developers and build a case within the community of developers and users.

 

I am puzzled by your problem on the second worksheet. Could you forward it to me privately  at my email below and let me see what is happening? I promise to destroy it after I understand what is happening and will, of course, keep it private.

 

There is no logical reason why the column title would drop to the second row without actually being assigned to that row before the first row was inserted. Guessing is futile! I would need to run through the actual table.

 

Alternatively, you could ring my mobile in Facetime or WhatsApp and I could walk through the issue with you with NVDA turned on and speaking.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jane Carona
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 11:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New to NVDA, questions about Outlook and Excel with NVDA

 

Hi Cearbhall,

Thanks so much for writing, it’s so great to talk to someone who uses Excel as much as I do!  Let me see if I can explain my problem:

 

I have two spreadsheets that are the same, except that one has books a-l and the other has books m-z, each is over ten thousand records.  One spreadsheet reads fine, with the titles in row 1 and the data starting in row 2.  In the other spreadsheet, moving across, some of the column titles read fine, but about half of them, the NVDA reads the data from row 2, the first line of data, as the title.  I followed what the user guide said and put my cursor in b1 and hit insert-shift-C, and that worked for most of my spreadsheets, but not for this one.  So I plunked the data from the bad spreadsheet onto the bottom of the good one, so now I have one spreadsheet with 29207 records in it, and the column titles read fine.

 

My problem now is that I wish I could get NVDA to read the column title before the data instead of after it.  Is there any way to do that?

 

Thanks so much for your help!

 

Happy Excelling!

 

Jane

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 4:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Excel and NVDA

 

Hi Jane,

 

I am a keen user of Excel with NVDA. I use it almost every day. I would be happy to answer any queries you have.

 

I wonder exactly what problem you are finding with column headings?

 

I note that you start your columns one column in and one row down from the top. That is no problem. Place your cursor on cell b2 and press NVDA+shift+c. This will fix b2 as the start of the column headings. If there is a break in row 2, the column title will stop being spoken with the last column before the break. Simply move the cursor on row 2 to the right until you get to the first filled cell after the break and press control+shift+c again. This will set the whole row to be the next set of column headings until the next empty cell in row 2. Repeat this until all the column cells are enabled as column headings. Each column will be echoed even if you are moving on the 1048576th row of the table.

 

The trick is to watch the gaps.

 

Let me know if this solves your difficulty and let me know if I can answer any more questions for you! I write complex formulas and macros with no problem using NVDA. It is a great product!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jane Carona
Sent: Friday, June 5, 2020 8:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Address for NVDA support

 

I don’t use row titles, just column titles in row 1.  I usually have column A blank, just because that’s how I did it in WindowEyes.  So my data starts in B2, and goes from b2 to p17288.  Not sure what else I can do at this point.  I’d sure hate to have to go back to jaws, but if I can’t read the column titles of my big spreadsheets, I may have to.

 

 


Re: brltty

Jackie
 

Joe, might I respectfully suggest you consider joining the Brltty
mailing list--yeah, I know, who needs another w/all the emails you're
already getting, right? But it is low traffic & the developers are
obviously on there, so I think you might actually get more help than
you would here. Please visit the following link if interested:
http://brltty.app/mailman/listinfo/brltty
You can subscribe there, if that's something you'd like to do.

Good luck.

On 6/6/20, Joe Paton <patonplace@...> wrote:
Hi,
would somebody be able to help me configure brltty to work with an
external braille display connected via a p c i serial card running
windows 10 and n v d a latest version
on the box?
I've looked on the brltty homepage site, and i became pathetically
confused.
Thanks.

or direct me to an understandable resource for an old brain to
cope with.

Thanks.



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Joe Paton
 

Hi,
would somebody be able to help me configure brltty to work with an
external braille display connected via a p c i serial card running
windows 10 and n v d a latest version
on the box?
I've looked on the brltty homepage site, and i became pathetically
confused.
Thanks.

or direct me to an understandable resource for an old brain to
cope with.

Thanks.


Re: Auto language switching in nvda

farhan israk
 

I don't find such option. Where is this option?


On Sat, 30 May 2020, 8:11 pm Tony Malykh, <anton.malykh@...> wrote:

Press "Edit language map" button in the preferences.

On 5/29/2020 12:22 PM, farhan israk wrote:

Thank you. I have enabled it. I didn't get any option to configure language. How to do it?


On Fri, 29 May 2020, 7:27 pm Tony Malykh, <anton.malykh@...> wrote:

Did you enable it in settings? Did you configure your language that you would like to switch to?

On 5/28/2020 12:07 PM, farhan israk wrote:

Though I have installed tony enhancement addon, nvda doesn't change language automatically. I downloaded it from nvda addon website yesterday.