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Re: need help with NVDARemote

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Jackie, this is what I was doing to no avail. I was using a simple key of three numbers. Could this be the problem?

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Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 6:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need help with NVDARemote

Dean, let's ensure a couple things.
1) Is the app actually installed? Press NVDA+n, then t & up arrow 1.
Does it say remote? If not, then the remote app isn't installed.)
2) Now try connecting. Once the connect option is chosen ensure that
client is selected & you're controlling the machine, & your trainee
has selected
to allow control from another machine.
3) Make certain you both have typed the same key in the key part of
the dialog. That means same case, whole 9yd. Then press ok.

f11 allows you to control the machine. Pressing it again lets you
access your own machine.

On 6/7/20, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:
Yes. What are you trying?

On 6/7/2020 2:52 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:
Good afternoon. It seems I could benefit from some handholding to use
NVDARemote. Both I and the trainee run the latest versions of NVDA and
the add-on. I can’t seem to connect to her. Is nvdaremote.com a valid
server? Clearly I’m missing something, probably very elementary, here.



Dean






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Re: need help with NVDARemote

Jackie
 

Dean, let's ensure a couple things.
1) Is the app actually installed? Press NVDA+n, then t & up arrow 1.
Does it say remote? If not, then the remote app isn't installed.)
2) Now try connecting. Once the connect option is chosen ensure that
client is selected & you're controlling the machine, & your trainee
has selected
to allow control from another machine.
3) Make certain you both have typed the same key in the key part of
the dialog. That means same case, whole 9yd. Then press ok.

f11 allows you to control the machine. Pressing it again lets you
access your own machine.

On 6/7/20, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:
Yes. What are you trying?

On 6/7/2020 2:52 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:
Good afternoon. It seems I could benefit from some handholding to use
NVDARemote. Both I and the trainee run the latest versions of NVDA and
the add-on. I can’t seem to connect to her. Is nvdaremote.com a valid
server?  Clearly I’m missing something, probably very elementary, here.



Dean





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Re: tubi add on?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Which browser are you using? In the tutorial there is a section of different ways in playing the videos. some will automatically just start and with some other browsers it starts a different way.


The page it comes off is http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

The subject line that you jump down to by headings is using tubi tv with nvda but has a little on mobile devices with the app. they are more accessible with talk back and have been told voice over and on my samsung tv it works with voice guide. some qwerks but I can live with that.


They are probably more accessible than the web part but if a few people asked them to add short cuts to the player and label  some of the buttons etc a lot of visually impaired people will be happy.



On the link given to where the tutorial can be found there i is a section on starting the movie/show with a browser.


hope it helps.


Gene nz


On 8/06/2020 9:57 am, Ame wrote:

Oh I know.  It’s neat.  Trouble is, whe nI use it on the computer, I click on things, look for clickable graphics and so forth and it never plays for me.  That’s my problem.  I can’t make it start playing.  I’ve even made sure java and flash and anything else that might pose a problem are activated and ready to go.


Re: need help with NVDARemote

Tyler Spivey
 

Yes. What are you trying?

On 6/7/2020 2:52 PM, Dean Martineau wrote:
Good afternoon. It seems I could benefit from some handholding to use
NVDARemote. Both I and the trainee run the latest versions of NVDA and
the add-on. I can’t seem to connect to her. Is nvdaremote.com a valid
server?  Clearly I’m missing something, probably very elementary, here.

 

Dean

 


need help with NVDARemote

Dean Martineau <topdot@...>
 

Good afternoon. It seems I could benefit from some handholding to use NVDARemote. Both I and the trainee run the latest versions of NVDA and the add-on. I can’t seem to connect to her. Is nvdaremote.com a valid server?  Clearly I’m missing something, probably very elementary, here.

 

Dean

 


Re: tubi add on?

Ame
 

Oh I know.  It’s neat.  Trouble is, whe nI use it on the computer, I click on things, look for clickable graphics and so forth and it never plays for me.  That’s my problem.  I can’t make it start playing.  I’ve even made sure java and flash and anything else that might pose a problem are activated and ready to go.


Re: my normal mode suddenly changes to text review mode

David Goldfield
 

Hello. I think that we may need some additional information as there are things you have written that I honestly am not following.


NVDA does have what is called a screen review mode. However, this affects only how the numeric keypad is used for reading text but this mode does not affect standard arrow key navigation. I am also not aware of an insert-backspace command.

Could you please be a bit more specific in what you are experiencing?

In other words what exactly happens when you open a document and you try to navigate through it? Please provide the exact steps you are taking, along with specific keystrokes you are using. Are you using the number pad or the standard arrow keys for navigation?

What exactly is happening when you try to navigate through a document and what are you expecting NVDA to do that it is not doing?

David Goldfield,
Blindness Assistive Technology Specialist
JAWS Certified, 2019

WWW.DavidGoldfield.org

On 6/7/2020 12:09 PM, Aschalew Byness wrote:
Hi friends
Sometimes, when I read a document in Word or Notepad, I find myself in
text review mode. Hence, I can’t edit or navigate with system carret.
I cann’t even get back to normal mode by pressing insert+back space.
why does it become like that? What is the solution?


Re: NVDA and Audacity recordings

Hettie
 

Thanks Paul, just installed it.


Hettie


On 2020/06/06 12:28 pm, bering.p wrote:
Hi.
About the add-on for Audacity:
The current add-on repository link is :
https://github.com/paulber19/audacityAccessEnhancementNVDAAddon

And the link to download the current add-on version conpatible with nvda 2020.1 is:
v1.4.4

Best regards.

Paul.
Le 04/06/2020 16:37, Brian Vogel a écrit :
Hettie,

            Hello and welcome to the NVDA Group.   Specific questions on how to use Audacity itself are not on-topic for the main NVDA Group.  I will give the e-mail addresses for our Chat Subgroup, where they are appropriate, in a few moments.  I wanted to make sure you had membership established in the NVDA Group since you must have that before you can join the Chat Subgroup.

             I know we have (or have had, the group always has some flux) members who are active Audacity users.  There also appears to be an unofficial NVDA add-on for Audacity (https://github.com/paulber007/AudacityNVDAAddon)  but it does not appear to be under active support and would not be compatible with the current version of NVDA.

             I thought there was a group on Groups.io for blind users of Audacity, but I can't find it.  I'm almost certain one exists, so I'll allow someone else to point you in its direction.

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Re: my normal mode suddenly changes to text review mode

Tyler Spivey
 

Try NVDA+space.

On 6/7/2020 9:09 AM, Aschalew Byness wrote:
Hi friends
Sometimes, when I read a document in Word or Notepad, I find myself in
text review mode. Hence, I can’t edit or navigate with system carret.
I cann’t even get back to normal mode by pressing insert+back space.
why does it become like that? What is the solution?



my normal mode suddenly changes to text review mode

Aschalew Byness
 

Hi friends
Sometimes, when I read a document in Word or Notepad, I find myself in
text review mode. Hence, I can’t edit or navigate with system carret.
I cann’t even get back to normal mode by pressing insert+back space.
why does it become like that? What is the solution?


Re: brltty

Angelo Sonnesso
 

What Braille display are you using?



73 N2DYN Angelo

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jason White via groups.io
Sent: Sunday, June 7, 2020 11:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] brltty

If it were a Linux system, I might be in a position to help, but
unfortunately I'm not familiar with Windows serial port handling or
whether BRLTTY supports it.

I would suggest asking on the BRLTTY list. You'll probably have to
specify the name of the serial device and the BRLTTY braille driver on
the command line or in the brltty.conf configuration file.

On 6/6/20 10:57 AM, Joe Paton wrote:
Hi,
would somebody be able to help me configure brltty to work with an
external braille display connected via a p c i serial card running
windows 10 and n v d a latest version
on the box?
I've looked on the brltty homepage site, and i became pathetically
confused.
Thanks.

or direct me to an understandable resource for an old brain to
cope with.

Thanks.



Re: sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

Chris Mullins
 

Hi Rui

That is good to know but I think it rases an issue.  I appreciate that text should be able to pass both ways within the remote connection but having a Push option on each end blurs the distinction between the controlling and controlled computers.  The user of the controlled computer is able to use the push command and compromise the clipboard of the controlling computer, which should not be so.  Could the “push clipboard” entry on the Remote Menu be replaced by  “Push clipbord to remote” and “Pull clipboard from remote” entries which are greyed out on a machine if it is connected as a controlled computer.  When the controlling user uses the Pull command, it could execute the “push” related code on the controlled computer, so would utilise existing routines but functionality would be where it should be, with the Controlling machine.         

 

I am a big fan of the Remote Support feature of NVDA but I don’t find the associated Help text very helpful.

 

Cheers

Chris

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: 07 June 2020 15:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

 

It works in both directions...

 

I have used it several times...

 

Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team

 

Às 15:02 de 07/06/2020, Chris Mullins escreveu:

Hi

In the help guide of the Remote Support add-on it states:

“The Push clipboard option in the remote menu allows you to push text from your clipboard. when activated, any text on the clipboard will be pushed to the other machines.”

What it doesn’t say is whether this command can be executed on both the controlling and controlled computers in the remote session.  When I have been the controlling user in a remote session I have used the Push Clipboard command to enable me to populate a text file previously created on the controlled machine but I have never done it the other way around as Luke describes below.    

 

Cheers

Chris

    

From: Luke Davis
Sent: 07 June 2020 05:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

 

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, Kevin Cussick via groups.io wrote:

 

> Hi,   this only works with text right?   You can not copy a file from local

> machine and send it to the remote machine?

 

I have not tried it with graphical content or other formatted type text or data.

I have transferred word documents this way, by opening them on the remote,

selecting all, copying, sending it to the control, and pasting into another word

document on my local machine.

 

A pain, but it works.

 

And if there is a MIME encoder (or UU Encoder) on the remote, any file could be

losslessly converted to text and moved this way.  But that is a lot of effort.

 

Luke

 

 

 

 

 


Re: brltty

Jason White
 

If it were a Linux system, I might be in a position to help, but unfortunately I'm not familiar with Windows serial port handling or whether BRLTTY supports it.

I would suggest asking on the BRLTTY list. You'll probably have to specify the name of the serial device and the BRLTTY braille driver on the command line or in the brltty.conf configuration file.

On 6/6/20 10:57 AM, Joe Paton wrote:
Hi,
would somebody be able to help me configure brltty to work with an
external braille display connected via a p c i serial card running
windows 10 and n v d a latest version
on the box?
I've looked on the brltty homepage site, and i became pathetically
confused.
Thanks.

or direct me to an understandable resource for an old brain to
cope with.

Thanks.


Re: sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

Rui Fontes
 

It works in both directions...


I have used it several times...


Rui Fontes

NVDA portuguese team


Às 15:02 de 07/06/2020, Chris Mullins escreveu:

Hi

In the help guide of the Remote Support add-on it states:

“The Push clipboard option in the remote menu allows you to push text from your clipboard. when activated, any text on the clipboard will be pushed to the other machines.”

What it doesn’t say is whether this command can be executed on both the controlling and controlled computers in the remote session.  When I have been the controlling user in a remote session I have used the Push Clipboard command to enable me to populate a text file previously created on the controlled machine but I have never done it the other way around as Luke describes below.    

 

Cheers

Chris

    

From: Luke Davis
Sent: 07 June 2020 05:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

 

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, Kevin Cussick via groups.io wrote:

 

> Hi,   this only works with text right?   You can not copy a file from local

> machine and send it to the remote machine?

 

I have not tried it with graphical content or other formatted type text or data.

I have transferred word documents this way, by opening them on the remote,

selecting all, copying, sending it to the control, and pasting into another word

document on my local machine.

 

A pain, but it works.

 

And if there is a MIME encoder (or UU Encoder) on the remote, any file could be

losslessly converted to text and moved this way.  But that is a lot of effort.

 

Luke

 

 

 

 


Re: sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

In the help guide of the Remote Support add-on it states:

“The Push clipboard option in the remote menu allows you to push text from your clipboard. when activated, any text on the clipboard will be pushed to the other machines.”

What it doesn’t say is whether this command can be executed on both the controlling and controlled computers in the remote session.  When I have been the controlling user in a remote session I have used the Push Clipboard command to enable me to populate a text file previously created on the controlled machine but I have never done it the other way around as Luke describes below.    

 

Cheers

Chris

    

From: Luke Davis
Sent: 07 June 2020 05:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

 

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, Kevin Cussick via groups.io wrote:

 

> Hi,   this only works with text right?   You can not copy a file from local

> machine and send it to the remote machine?

 

I have not tried it with graphical content or other formatted type text or data.

I have transferred word documents this way, by opening them on the remote,

selecting all, copying, sending it to the control, and pasting into another word

document on my local machine.

 

A pain, but it works.

 

And if there is a MIME encoder (or UU Encoder) on the remote, any file could be

losslessly converted to text and moved this way.  But that is a lot of effort.

 

Luke

 

 

 

 


Re: require accessible video editor suggestions.

Tyaseta Rabita Nugraeni Sardjono <tyasetarabita@...>
 

Windows movie maker version 2016, virtualdub, free video editor


On Sat, Jun 6, 2020, 07:17 Austin Pinto <austinpinto.xaviers@...> wrote:
hi all.
some of you have a youtube channel.
how do you edit videos?
which is the accessible video editor software you use with nvda?




Re: tubi add on?

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I am not aware of a add on for Tubi but I know the website you are talking about. I contacted them not all that long ago when some one told me about Tubi. I have asked them to asign short cuts for the player or make it more accessible and also mentioned about unlabeled buttons etc They said the following below.


Thanks for contacting Tubi Support.
We do not have this feature yet but I will forward your request to our Product Team.

or did I not say about the buttons it can be another ticket I would have to read my emails.


But if the person wants to use it with a smart phone it is pretty accessible on android. I have a Samsung tv with the App on it and it is accessible with the screen reader there 2.


the website at present if you pick a show will either automatically play the shows depending on the browser. Or if you jump down by headings at times I think it is said clickable it can be started that way 2.

This is with NVDA or it would also be the same with another screen reader.


I think also my keyboard with media buttons was able to play and pause the show.


you can also if you sign up for a account play on one device then go to another and finish watching on that one. You just need to activate the other devices. It is free with next to know advertising.



the player will appear for a little bit of time then disappear. The buttons in it are not labeled but in some cases you can change screen size or move the slider etc.


They have a lot of content up there for free.


If any one is interested later on tonight I will put up a tutorial for TUBi TV either to use with nvda or a mobile device. The bottom parts of it is adding stuff to a cue or deleting from your history.


Gene nz


If enough people email them from the community and say you use a screen reader it will most probably happen.



On 7/06/2020 8:21 am, JM Casey wrote:

I’m interested too because I like the sound of limitless old cult films at my fingertips so I’ve been thinking of trying out this service.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: June 6, 2020 4:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] tubi add on?

 

Oh, my bad. I thought they meant something like to download youtube movies etc which I do all the time. I had a similarly named program once hwnce why I got confused, sorry about that.

Good luck in your finding the answer as I'm out.

Blessings and happy Saturday

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On 6 Jun 2020, at 12:38, JM Casey wrote:

The youtube keystrokes work absolutely great in chrome, but the person there is talking about tubi, not youtube…

I haven’t really looked into tubi but it’s a great resource for cult movie fans especially as they stream a lot of stuff on there.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: June 6, 2020 3:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] tubi add on?

 

Have you tried the youtube website at all in trhe past few months? I don't use youtube anymore infavore of lbry [library] but they have keystrokes for just about everythign now a days from starting to stoping to rewinding to the seak slider. Google for youtube web keyboard shortcuts.

Good luck.

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On 6 Jun 2020, at 12:08, Ame wrote:

Hi all!

 

I like to use Tubi on my computer… or, I did.  All of a sudden, I can’t get the video I’ve chosen to play.  It started this a few weeks ago.  Is there an add on for Tubi?  Is there anything I can do in my browser settings or something?

 

Thanks

 

Ame


Re: sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

Luke Davis
 

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Since though in the case of NVDA Remote we are going through servers, if the server owner let's say catches me sending an mp3 to someone via NVDA remote of
the latest launch that happened last Saturday, I think they would probably have my head. Lol! And this is not using nvda remote servers either, this is a
custom one someone set up.
There will have to be a terms of service document of some sort to protect remote server operators

But the transfer should be encrypted: the remote operator should never be able to determine anything of the contents that is moving across the session, be it keyboard input or files.

So if he catches you, he is the one unethically snooping.

Luke


Re: sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

Sarah k Alawami
 

That's true, I remember sendlink. I still don't really see this an option. I saw team viewer working that way when an aira agent copied a web address from my address bar to their clipboard and pasted into an incognito browser window.

Since though in the case of NVDA Remote we are going through servers, if the server owner let's say catches me sending an mp3 to someone via NVDA remote of the latest launch that happened last Saturday, I think they would probably have my head. Lol! And this is not using nvda remote servers either, this is a custom one someone set up.

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On 6 Jun 2020, at 21:09, Luke Davis wrote:

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I would guess not. I can see a legal battle if that were to ever be implemented.

Why, Sarah? Every other remote desktop platform out there can move files from one machine to the other. I know people who run their whole business that way: moving files to and from remote computers at remote locations without human employees via the Splashtop remote desktop tool, which they also use to control what happens to those files.

NVDA Remote really needs this capability.

If you let someone you don't trust into your computer, then you bear the outcome.

That aside, if someone is doing a remote session and really badly wants a file from you, there are several ways they can acquire it--SCP from your machine to another, a web uploader, an email attachment, good old FTP, and more.
It's all just much less convenient than having the remote desktop software do it.

Luke


Re: sends the contents of the clipboard to the remote machine

Luke Davis
 

On Sat, 6 Jun 2020, Kevin Cussick via groups.io wrote:

Hi, this only works with text right? You can not copy a file from local machine and send it to the remote machine?
I have not tried it with graphical content or other formatted type text or data.
I have transferred word documents this way, by opening them on the remote, selecting all, copying, sending it to the control, and pasting into another word document on my local machine.

A pain, but it works.

And if there is a MIME encoder (or UU Encoder) on the remote, any file could be losslessly converted to text and moved this way. But that is a lot of effort.

Luke