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Re: Best way to change gender and skin tone in Windows' emoji panel

 

See:  https://www.msoutlook.info/question/change-skin-tone-gender-profession-of-emoji

and a number of other results of the search:  https://duckduckgo.com/?q=change+gender+default+windows+10+emoji
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Best way to change gender and skin tone in Windows' emoji panel

Denis Sariyannis
 

Hi everyone,
what is the best and fastest way to change attributes of emojis in Windows 10?
Thank you in advance!

Best regards
Denis


Re: iCloud For Windows Upload Progress

Julia
 

Unfortunately, icloud for windows doesn't support this function for nvda and any other screenreaders. For me it's also a kind of a problem, especially with large files.

On 2019-11-26 08:16, Luke Davis wrote:
Does anyone have any idea if there is a way for NVDA to obtain the status of iCloud drive for Windows? In particular, I am looking for upload progress of large files.

There is an iCloud system tray icon, but it seems to do nothing.

I am assuming this information is available visually somewhere, but I don't actually know that for sure.

Luke

iCloud For Windows Upload Progress

Luke Davis
 

Does anyone have any idea if there is a way for NVDA to obtain the status of iCloud drive for Windows? In particular, I am looking for upload progress of large files.

There is an iCloud system tray icon, but it seems to do nothing.

I am assuming this information is available visually somewhere, but I don't actually know that for sure.

Luke

Re: what's wrong with start mark/end mark

 

hi. i do nvda method many times rather than using windows method.
most times it works, but many times not! and as you said, nvda just
selects one letter of text.
i remember only in firefox and i am not sure that if i used nvda
method for selecting text in other programs or not.

On 11/25/19, ken lawrence via Groups.Io
<kenlawrence124=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:
Hi list ken here I was trying to forward a message to someone and I only
wanted the part pertaining to them. But when I tried start mark insert plus
f9 and end mark insert plus f10 twice, it only copied one letter. Did it
exactly the way it should starting on one line to start mark andhit the
insert plus f10 on the line I wanted and it said review copy selection to
clipboard but it didn’t copy all I wanted. I had no choice but to forward
the whole digest message. What did I do wrong.

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an annoying problem with the NVDA portable

abdul muhamin
 

Hi all, I’m facing a big problem while using the NVDA portable. I know that it doesn’t work on user account control dialog. But after clicking yes to open the app, for example a setup file, the NVDA disables all the command keys, even you cannot stop it from speaking by pressing control. It only happens when you are using the nvda portable copy. Please fix the problem. Using win10 v1903 64bit

 

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From: ken lawrence via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what's wrong with start mark/end mark

 

Hi list ken here I was trying to forward a message to someone and I only wanted the part pertaining to them. But when I tried start mark insert plus f9 and end mark insert plus f10 twice, it only copied one letter. Did it exactly the way it should starting on one line to start mark andhit the insert plus f10 on the line I wanted and it said review copy selection to clipboard but it didn’t copy all I wanted. I had no choice but to forward the whole digest message.  What did I do wrong. 

 

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Re: Refreshable Braille Display Help #NVAccess #msftaccessibility

 

Hi,

No, this one is a competition entry to create a braille display from scratch, so a lot of work is needed (hence the advice to post on development mailing list).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 12:27 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Refreshable Braille Display Help #msftaccessibility #NVAccess

 

Well as long as it works with open braille and brltty its probably ok.

Of course its going to probably work better with an actual supported driver but brltty is everywhere including linux so if it works with that then it will work with most things supporting that at least.

 

 

On 26/11/2019 6:42 am, just1brill@... wrote:

I understand that trying to support a board that won't be comercially available would not be in the interest of developers so I greatly appreciate your help here. The board is recognised as a hardware device by Windows devices (and likely other OSs, but I don't have access to them right now). Unfortunately,our own code is not quite complete but we are definitely making efforts to have it done as quickly as possible (while obviously still being as functional as possible). But, I have taken all of that on board and will go through the process outlined above.

Thanks very much.

Re: Refreshable Braille Display Help #NVAccess #msftaccessibility

 

Well as long as it works with open braille and brltty its probably ok.

Of course its going to probably work better with an actual supported driver but brltty is everywhere including linux so if it works with that then it will work with most things supporting that at least.



On 26/11/2019 6:42 am, just1brill@... wrote:
I understand that trying to support a board that won't be comercially available would not be in the interest of developers so I greatly appreciate your help here. The board is recognised as a hardware device by Windows devices (and likely other OSs, but I don't have access to them right now). Unfortunately,our own code is not quite complete but we are definitely making efforts to have it done as quickly as possible (while obviously still being as functional as possible). But, I have taken all of that on board and will go through the process outlined above.

Thanks very much.

Re: Refreshable Braille Display Help #NVAccess #msftaccessibility

just1brill@...
 

I was looking through all the GitHub files for something like that, but with all the files it can get fairly overwhelming, so I appreciate the link. We will definitely get onto developing that driver and get it up and running.

Thanks a lot for the help!

Re: Refreshable Braille Display Help #NVAccess #msftaccessibility

Lino Morales
 

I suggest you join and ask the folks on the NVDA dev list. Good luck with your project.

On 11/25/2019 12:06 PM, just1brill@... wrote:
Hello,
We are a group of students entering our country's top science exhibition, doing our project on refreshable braile displays, as we were interested in the idea of making the computer more accessible to all. We came across NVDA and found out it was perfect for what we stood for and needed.

But, we are having trouble making our board compatible with NVDA and was wondering if anybody could guide us on how it could be done or if it can be done at all. I understand this may be quite a complex topic, especially over messaging, but even help on where to turn to for advice would be great. We understand that other displays have been made compatible also.

Any help at all would be greatly appreciated and would be extremely beneficial.

Thanks

Re: Refreshable Braille Display Help #NVAccess #msftaccessibility

Felix G.
 

Hello,
sounds like an interesting project. A lot of success with this!
Right now there is no way to develop hardware to be immediately
compatible with NVDA. You will need to write a driver. But before you
start panicking, you won't need to write any Windows drivers in kernel
mode. If your device is a HID or serial port device, you implement
your protocol on top of those. So technically what you will write is
more of an interface than a driver.
For starters, you will want to read:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/wiki/AddingSupportForABrailleDisplay
Some Python knowledge will be useful.
All the best,
Felix Grützmacher

Am Mo., 25. Nov. 2019 um 18:10 Uhr schrieb <just1brill@...>:


Hello,
We are a group of students entering our country's top science exhibition, doing our project on refreshable braile displays, as we were interested in the idea of making the computer more accessible to all. We came across NVDA and found out it was perfect for what we stood for and needed.

But, we are having trouble making our board compatible with NVDA and was wondering if anybody could guide us on how it could be done or if it can be done at all. I understand this may be quite a complex topic, especially over messaging, but even help on where to turn to for advice would be great. We understand that other displays have been made compatible also.

Any help at all would be greatly appreciated and would be extremely beneficial.

Thanks

Re: Refreshable Braille Display Help #NVAccess #msftaccessibility

 

Hi,

You’re welcome – I think you made the right choice in asking around for guidance, something I should have done more when I studied computer science many years ago.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of just1brill@...
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Refreshable Braille Display Help #msftaccessibility #NVAccess

 

I understand that trying to support a board that won't be comercially available would not be in the interest of developers so I greatly appreciate your help here. The board is recognised as a hardware device by Windows devices (and likely other OSs, but I don't have access to them right now). Unfortunately,our own code is not quite complete but we are definitely making efforts to have it done as quickly as possible (while obviously still being as functional as possible). But, I have taken all of that on board and will go through the process outlined above.

Thanks very much.

Re: Refreshable Braille Display Help #NVAccess #msftaccessibility

just1brill@...
 

I understand that trying to support a board that won't be comercially available would not be in the interest of developers so I greatly appreciate your help here. The board is recognised as a hardware device by Windows devices (and likely other OSs, but I don't have access to them right now). Unfortunately,our own code is not quite complete but we are definitely making efforts to have it done as quickly as possible (while obviously still being as functional as possible). But, I have taken all of that on board and will go through the process outlined above.

Thanks very much.

Re: what's wrong with start mark/end mark

Gene
 

I'm not saying it won't work, it will.  What I'm saying is that the numpad method was developed for times when no cursor is present.  It wasn't developed to duplicate something that is already present.
 
It is also more intuitive and more efficient often to use the Windows method where possible. 
 
Consider one example.  If I want to select two consecutive lines of text in a document, using the Windows method, I start at the beginning of the first line.  If I hold shift and down arrow, one time, I've selected the first line.  Continuing to hold shift and down arrowing again selects the second line.
Compare that with the numpad method.
Start on the first line of text and set the start marker.  Moving to the next line, numpad 9, and setting the end marker doesn't select the whole second line.  it only selects the first line and the first letter of the second line.
So I have to both move to the second line and then move to the end of that line.  in addition, when I select using the Windows method, if I want to, I can move slowly enough to have NVDA say selected, and then announce what I've selected as I move.  You don't hear that when you use the start and end marker method. 
 
For some reason, I see this sort of question off and on and I wonder how many people don't know about the Windows method.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Rui Fontes
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 11:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] what's wrong with start mark/end mark

Sorry, but this method of copying text is also valid when the text have a cursor...


Rui Fontes


Às 16:48 de 25/11/2019, Gene escreveu:
I don't know what you did but you didn't have to forward the whole message.  it seems that a lot of people don't realize that the method you use to copy to the clipboard is intended only for times when there is no cursor or virtual cursor, such as when you are in a dialog.  Do you know the Windows wey to copy text?  If you don't, I'll explain it.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 10:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] what's wrong with start mark/end mark

Hi list ken here I was trying to forward a message to someone and I only wanted the part pertaining to them. But when I tried start mark insert plus f9 and end mark insert plus f10 twice, it only copied one letter. Did it exactly the way it should starting on one line to start mark andhit the insert plus f10 on the line I wanted and it said review copy selection to clipboard but it didn’t copy all I wanted. I had no choice but to forward the whole digest message.  What did I do wrong. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Re: Refreshable Braille Display Help #NVAccess #msftaccessibility

 

Hi,

Hmmm, where do we begin…

Typically, when users request support for a braille display, it is usually an existing product or a product that is about to be released to the general public. If we do get this request, NVDA developers would contact the product manufacturer and ask for protocol documentation so we can learn how the screen reader should communicate with the braille display.

A few questions:

  • Is your board an example of a braille display idea you are prototyping at this competition?
  • Is your board recognized by operating systems when you connect it to a computer i.e. shows up in Linux, Windows, and macOS as a hardware device?
  • Is your braille display board working with other screen readers such as Narrator in Windows, VoiceOver in macOS and iOS, Talkback in Android, Orca in Linux GUI environments and what not?

 

I advise taking the following steps:

  1. Try making sure your board is recognized by computers, specifically ones running Microsoft Windows (NVDA is a Windows application).
  2. Try making sure components of the board is working properly such as input and output modules, power, connectors and other user visible components.
  3. Make sure any input and output modules are working properly when connected to a computer system – try using hardware debuggers to make sure the computer can see what’s going on when you perform actions on the board.

 

Only after the braille display board is working properly should you consider letting NVDA talk to it (I assume the board is working properly, but just to make sure), and to do so, you need to define a protocol layer – communicating to NVDA what your braille display’s input module will do, and letting NVDA talk to the board and get things shown on the output module.

 

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of just1brill@...
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 9:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Refreshable Braille Display Help #msftaccessibility #NVAccess

 

Hello,

We are a group of students entering our country's top science exhibition, doing our project on refreshable braile displays, as we were interested in the idea of making the computer more accessible to all. We came across NVDA and found out it was perfect for what we stood for and needed.


But, we are having trouble making our board compatible with NVDA and was wondering if anybody could guide us on how it could be done or if it can be done at all. I understand this may be quite a complex topic, especially over messaging, but even help on where to turn to for advice would be great. We understand that other displays have been made compatible also.


Any help at all would be greatly appreciated and would be extremely beneficial.


Thanks

Re: Refreshable Braille Display Help #NVAccess #msftaccessibility

just1brill@...
 

This was the only group I could find at the time but I will make sure to post there too.

Thanks.

Re: Refreshable Braille Display Help #NVAccess #msftaccessibility

 

I approved this message because I know that certain NVDA developers are regular readers and some drop by on occasion.  That being said, you might want to consider asking on the NVDA Developers Group directly, as those are the eyes that need to be on this particular level of request.

Here are the addresses for the NVDA Developers Group:

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Re: what's wrong with start mark/end mark

Rui Fontes
 

Sorry, but this method of copying text is also valid when the text have a cursor...


Rui Fontes


Às 16:48 de 25/11/2019, Gene escreveu:

I don't know what you did but you didn't have to forward the whole message.  it seems that a lot of people don't realize that the method you use to copy to the clipboard is intended only for times when there is no cursor or virtual cursor, such as when you are in a dialog.  Do you know the Windows wey to copy text?  If you don't, I'll explain it.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 10:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] what's wrong with start mark/end mark

Hi list ken here I was trying to forward a message to someone and I only wanted the part pertaining to them. But when I tried start mark insert plus f9 and end mark insert plus f10 twice, it only copied one letter. Did it exactly the way it should starting on one line to start mark andhit the insert plus f10 on the line I wanted and it said review copy selection to clipboard but it didn’t copy all I wanted. I had no choice but to forward the whole digest message.  What did I do wrong. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Refreshable Braille Display Help #NVAccess #msftaccessibility

just1brill@...
 

Hello,
We are a group of students entering our country's top science exhibition, doing our project on refreshable braile displays, as we were interested in the idea of making the computer more accessible to all. We came across NVDA and found out it was perfect for what we stood for and needed.

But, we are having trouble making our board compatible with NVDA and was wondering if anybody could guide us on how it could be done or if it can be done at all. I understand this may be quite a complex topic, especially over messaging, but even help on where to turn to for advice would be great. We understand that other displays have been made compatible also.

Any help at all would be greatly appreciated and would be extremely beneficial.

Thanks

Re: what's wrong with start mark/end mark

Gene
 

I don't know what you did but you didn't have to forward the whole message.  it seems that a lot of people don't realize that the method you use to copy to the clipboard is intended only for times when there is no cursor or virtual cursor, such as when you are in a dialog.  Do you know the Windows wey to copy text?  If you don't, I'll explain it.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, November 25, 2019 10:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] what's wrong with start mark/end mark

Hi list ken here I was trying to forward a message to someone and I only wanted the part pertaining to them. But when I tried start mark insert plus f9 and end mark insert plus f10 twice, it only copied one letter. Did it exactly the way it should starting on one line to start mark andhit the insert plus f10 on the line I wanted and it said review copy selection to clipboard but it didn’t copy all I wanted. I had no choice but to forward the whole digest message.  What did I do wrong. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10