I currently have Thunderbird 60.9.1 (32-bit).
I just noticed I can Update to 68.5.0
Any performance issues with NVDA and later versions of Thunderbird?
Thanks.

Hi Group,

I am not quite sure when this started--probably with the 2019.3 update, but now when I am in a Thunderbird message and I want to try to highlight a word in an open message and check the spelling, when I press insert + numpad 5, NVDA says: 'blank.'  This also occurs in the subject field and the other header fields.

Has anyone else noticed this and is there a work around?

Hi Kostadin,

Are you sure it's the same bug? If it was and if it has been there five years, installing NVDA 2019.1 shouldn't have worked either. But I was able to install that version successfully.

Regards




Regard

Sandra

Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 06.03.2020 um 07:47 schrieb Kostadin Kolev <@k_kolev1985>:



Hello Quentin,

If I'm not mistaking, this is a known bug in NVDA. I've reported this almost 5 years ago and it still occurs. Here is the bug: NVDA installation may fail with an error if system UI language and language for non-unicode programs don't match · Issue #5166.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 6.3.2020 г. в 1:19, Quentin Christensen написа:

Hi Sandra,

Thanks for following up, I appreciate the clarification.

Setting my system language to German, I can replicate this. We'll look into it.

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 11:10 PM Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,


You wrote:

When you originally went to install, did you get the UAC prompt from Windows itself about installing the program? You get that for any program you install, but sometimes it pops up and doesn't get focus so you aren't alerted to it and even visually it's not obvious. If you don't answer Yes to the UAC prompt within about 20 seconds, it times out and denies the program from installing.


Yes, I did see it, but the UAC prompt isn't the problem, I always answer Yes using the alt Y or in my case alt+j shortcut (German windows), and the installation continues. I don't wait for 20 seconds for something to happen.


The only other thing I was thinking was if you had controlled folder access set, it will install NVDA but not create the desktop shortcut. If that was the issue though, it wouldn't have worked any better with NVDA 2019.1 than 2019.3.

No, I don't have controlled folder access set. I checked this when it didn't work, because I knew it could be a problem. No, it's not active.


I do think there is a problem with the installation of 2019.3 though, because a lady on the German NVDA list reported the same problem. She's a very competent computer user and I'm sure she, too, knows how to deal with UAC. Maybe it doesn't affect systems where English is the default language... And maybe it wasn't reported much, because many people using NVDA 2019.3 will have updated an older version and won't have encountered this issue, because the shortcut and start menu entries had already been created by a previous installation of an older version of NVDA...


I, however, attempted a fresh install on a new machine.


Best


Sandra


Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:43 AM Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...> wrote:

Hi Felix,


Thanks for your help. Unfortunately setting the NVDA language to English
didn't help. The failed installation not only faild to create the
desktop shortcut, but also didn't create NVDA entries in the start menu.
I installed NVDA 2019.1 first and then updated to 2019.3.1, that did the
trick.


Best


Sandra

Am 04.03.2020 um 13:22 schrieb Felix G.:

Hello Sandra,
the installation failed because NVDA was unable to create its desktop
shortcut, for reasons I cannot begin to guess. I can think of two
options:
1. Install without creating a desktop shortcut, then create one manually.
2. Sometimes, switching the NVDA language to English before installing
fixes this problem. If you feel comfortable doing this, it may be the
cleaner option.
Hope this helps,
Felix

Am Mi., 4. März 2020 um 14:11 Uhr schrieb Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...>:

Hello,


I'm trying to install NVDA on a new machine running Windows 10 pro 1909.


I'm running the installation file as administrator. I'm getting the message that installing NVDA has failed.


Please also see the log included below.


Does anyone know what the problem might be and how to solve it??


Thanks.


Cheers


Sandra


INFO - __main__ (13:56:46.002) - MainThread (10924):
Starting NVDA version 2019.3.1
INFO - core.main (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
Config dir: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
Loading config: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
Using Windows version 10.0.18363 workstation
INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
Using Python version 3.7.5 (tags/v3.7.5:5c02a39a0b, Oct 14 2019, 23:09:19) [MSC v.1916 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
Using comtypes version 1.1.7
INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
Loaded synthDriver oneCore
INFO - core.main (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
Using liblouis version 3.10.0
INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
Using pySerial version 3.4
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.412) - MainThread (10924):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
INFO - brailleDisplayDrivers.handyTech.BrailleDisplayDriver.__init__ (13:56:46.464) - braille._BgThread (11016):
Found Easy Braille connected via hid (\\?\hid#vid_1fe4&pid_0044#7&7f9a61d&0&0000#{4d1e55b2-f16f-11cf-88cb-001111000030})
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.472) - braille._BgThread (11016):
Loaded braille display driver handyTech, current display has 40 cells.
INFO - core.main (13:56:46.582) - MainThread (10924):
Java Access Bridge support initialized
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:56:46.582) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (11020):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
INFO - core.main (13:56:46.762) - MainThread (10924):
NVDA initialized
ERROR - RPC process 8756 (nvda_slave.exe) (13:57:05.773) - Dummy-1 (10840):
__main__.main:
slave error
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 47, in main
File "installer.pyc", line 454, in install
File "installer.pyc", line 261, in registerInstallation
File "installer.pyc", line 58, in createShortcut
File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyc", line 218, in __setattr__
File "comtypes\automation.pyc", line 729, in _invoke
_ctypes.COMError: (-2147352567, 'Ausnahmefehler aufgetreten.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (13:57:05.793) - MainThread (10924):
Installation failed: 1

--
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Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

Web: www.nvaccess.org
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Web: www.nvaccess.org
Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess

Am 06.03.2020 um 07:47 schrieb Kostadin Kolev <k.kolev1985@...>:



Hello Quentin,

If I'm not mistaking, this is a known bug in NVDA. I've reported this almost 5 years ago and it still occurs. Here is the bug: NVDA installation may fail with an error if system UI language and language for non-unicode programs don't match · Issue #5166.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev

На 6.3.2020 г. в 1:19, Quentin Christensen написа:

Hi Sandra,

Thanks for following up, I appreciate the clarification.

Setting my system language to German, I can replicate this.  We'll look into it.

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 11:10 PM Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

You wrote:

When you originally went to install, did you get the UAC prompt from Windows itself about installing the program?  You get that for any program you install, but sometimes it pops up and doesn't get focus so you aren't alerted to it and even visually it's not obvious.  If you don't answer Yes to the UAC prompt within about 20 seconds, it times out and denies the program from installing.

Yes, I did see it, but the UAC prompt isn't the problem, I always answer Yes using the alt Y or in my case alt+j shortcut (German windows), and the installation continues. I don't wait for 20 seconds for something to happen.

The only other thing I was thinking was if you had controlled folder access set, it will install NVDA but not create the desktop shortcut.  If that was the issue though, it wouldn't have worked any better with NVDA 2019.1 than 2019.3.

No, I don't have controlled folder access set. I checked this when it didn't work, because I knew it could be a problem. No, it's not active.

I do think there is a problem with the installation of 2019.3 though, because a lady on the German NVDA list reported the same problem. She's a very competent computer user and I'm sure she, too, knows how to deal with UAC. Maybe it doesn't affect systems where English is the default language... And maybe it wasn't reported much, because many people using NVDA 2019.3 will have updated an older version and won't have encountered this issue, because the shortcut and start menu entries had already been created by a previous installation of an older version of NVDA...

I, however, attempted a fresh install on a new machine.

Best

Sandra

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:43 AM Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...> wrote:

Hi Felix,


Thanks for your help. Unfortunately setting the NVDA language to English
didn't help. The failed installation not only faild to create the
desktop shortcut, but also didn't create NVDA entries in the start menu.
I installed NVDA 2019.1 first and then updated to 2019.3.1, that did the
trick.


Best


Sandra

Am 04.03.2020 um 13:22 schrieb Felix G.:
> Hello Sandra,
> the installation failed because NVDA was unable to create its desktop
> shortcut, for reasons I cannot begin to guess. I can think of two
> options:
> 1. Install without creating a desktop shortcut, then create one manually.
> 2. Sometimes, switching the NVDA language to English before installing
> fixes this problem. If you feel comfortable doing this, it may be the
> cleaner option.
> Hope this helps,
> Felix
>
> Am Mi., 4. März 2020 um 14:11 Uhr schrieb Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...>:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to install NVDA on a new machine running Windows 10 pro 1909.
>>
>>
>> I'm running  the installation file as administrator. I'm getting the message that installing NVDA has failed.
>>
>>
>> Please also see the log included below.
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know what the problem might be and how to solve it??
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Sandra
>>
>>
>> INFO - __main__ (13:56:46.002) - MainThread (10924):
>> Starting NVDA version 2019.3.1
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
>> Config dir: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda
>> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loading config: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using Windows version 10.0.18363 workstation
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using Python version 3.7.5 (tags/v3.7.5:5c02a39a0b, Oct 14 2019, 23:09:19) [MSC v.1916 32 bit (Intel)]
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using comtypes version 1.1.7
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
>> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loaded synthDriver oneCore
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0
>> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Braille input initialized
>> INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using liblouis version 3.10.0
>> INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using pySerial version 3.4
>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.412) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
>> INFO - brailleDisplayDrivers.handyTech.BrailleDisplayDriver.__init__ (13:56:46.464) - braille._BgThread (11016):
>> Found Easy Braille connected via hid (\\?\hid#vid_1fe4&pid_0044#7&7f9a61d&0&0000#{4d1e55b2-f16f-11cf-88cb-001111000030})
>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.472) - braille._BgThread (11016):
>> Loaded braille display driver handyTech, current display has 40 cells.
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.582) - MainThread (10924):
>> Java Access Bridge support initialized
>> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:56:46.582) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (11020):
>> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.762) - MainThread (10924):
>> NVDA initialized
>> ERROR - RPC process 8756 (nvda_slave.exe) (13:57:05.773) - Dummy-1 (10840):
>> __main__.main:
>> slave error
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>    File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 47, in main
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 454, in install
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 261, in registerInstallation
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 58, in createShortcut
>>    File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyc", line 218, in __setattr__
>>    File "comtypes\automation.pyc", line 729, in _invoke
>> _ctypes.COMError: (-2147352567, 'Ausnahmefehler aufgetreten.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
>> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (13:57:05.793) - MainThread (10924):
>> Installation failed: 1
>>
>>
>>
>
>

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

Am 06.03.2020 um 00:19 schrieb Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>:



Hi Sandra,

Thanks for following up, I appreciate the clarification.

Setting my system language to German, I can replicate this.  We'll look into it.

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 11:10 PM Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

You wrote:

When you originally went to install, did you get the UAC prompt from Windows itself about installing the program?  You get that for any program you install, but sometimes it pops up and doesn't get focus so you aren't alerted to it and even visually it's not obvious.  If you don't answer Yes to the UAC prompt within about 20 seconds, it times out and denies the program from installing.

Yes, I did see it, but the UAC prompt isn't the problem, I always answer Yes using the alt Y or in my case alt+j shortcut (German windows), and the installation continues. I don't wait for 20 seconds for something to happen.

The only other thing I was thinking was if you had controlled folder access set, it will install NVDA but not create the desktop shortcut.  If that was the issue though, it wouldn't have worked any better with NVDA 2019.1 than 2019.3.

No, I don't have controlled folder access set. I checked this when it didn't work, because I knew it could be a problem. No, it's not active.

I do think there is a problem with the installation of 2019.3 though, because a lady on the German NVDA list reported the same problem. She's a very competent computer user and I'm sure she, too, knows how to deal with UAC. Maybe it doesn't affect systems where English is the default language... And maybe it wasn't reported much, because many people using NVDA 2019.3 will have updated an older version and won't have encountered this issue, because the shortcut and start menu entries had already been created by a previous installation of an older version of NVDA...

I, however, attempted a fresh install on a new machine.

Best

Sandra

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:43 AM Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...> wrote:

Hi Felix,


Thanks for your help. Unfortunately setting the NVDA language to English
didn't help. The failed installation not only faild to create the
desktop shortcut, but also didn't create NVDA entries in the start menu.
I installed NVDA 2019.1 first and then updated to 2019.3.1, that did the
trick.


Best


Sandra

Am 04.03.2020 um 13:22 schrieb Felix G.:
> Hello Sandra,
> the installation failed because NVDA was unable to create its desktop
> shortcut, for reasons I cannot begin to guess. I can think of two
> options:
> 1. Install without creating a desktop shortcut, then create one manually.
> 2. Sometimes, switching the NVDA language to English before installing
> fixes this problem. If you feel comfortable doing this, it may be the
> cleaner option.
> Hope this helps,
> Felix
>
> Am Mi., 4. März 2020 um 14:11 Uhr schrieb Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...>:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to install NVDA on a new machine running Windows 10 pro 1909.
>>
>>
>> I'm running  the installation file as administrator. I'm getting the message that installing NVDA has failed.
>>
>>
>> Please also see the log included below.
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know what the problem might be and how to solve it??
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Sandra
>>
>>
>> INFO - __main__ (13:56:46.002) - MainThread (10924):
>> Starting NVDA version 2019.3.1
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
>> Config dir: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda
>> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loading config: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using Windows version 10.0.18363 workstation
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using Python version 3.7.5 (tags/v3.7.5:5c02a39a0b, Oct 14 2019, 23:09:19) [MSC v.1916 32 bit (Intel)]
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using comtypes version 1.1.7
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
>> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loaded synthDriver oneCore
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0
>> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Braille input initialized
>> INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using liblouis version 3.10.0
>> INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using pySerial version 3.4
>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.412) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
>> INFO - brailleDisplayDrivers.handyTech.BrailleDisplayDriver.__init__ (13:56:46.464) - braille._BgThread (11016):
>> Found Easy Braille connected via hid (\\?\hid#vid_1fe4&pid_0044#7&7f9a61d&0&0000#{4d1e55b2-f16f-11cf-88cb-001111000030})
>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.472) - braille._BgThread (11016):
>> Loaded braille display driver handyTech, current display has 40 cells.
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.582) - MainThread (10924):
>> Java Access Bridge support initialized
>> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:56:46.582) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (11020):
>> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.762) - MainThread (10924):
>> NVDA initialized
>> ERROR - RPC process 8756 (nvda_slave.exe) (13:57:05.773) - Dummy-1 (10840):
>> __main__.main:
>> slave error
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>    File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 47, in main
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 454, in install
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 261, in registerInstallation
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 58, in createShortcut
>>    File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyc", line 218, in __setattr__
>>    File "comtypes\automation.pyc", line 729, in _invoke
>> _ctypes.COMError: (-2147352567, 'Ausnahmefehler aufgetreten.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
>> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (13:57:05.793) - MainThread (10924):
>> Installation failed: 1
>>
>>
>>
>
>

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/

Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/

User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess

Hi Sandra,

Thanks for following up, I appreciate the clarification.

Setting my system language to German, I can replicate this.  We'll look into it.

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 11:10 PM Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,

You wrote:

When you originally went to install, did you get the UAC prompt from Windows itself about installing the program?  You get that for any program you install, but sometimes it pops up and doesn't get focus so you aren't alerted to it and even visually it's not obvious.  If you don't answer Yes to the UAC prompt within about 20 seconds, it times out and denies the program from installing.

Yes, I did see it, but the UAC prompt isn't the problem, I always answer Yes using the alt Y or in my case alt+j shortcut (German windows), and the installation continues. I don't wait for 20 seconds for something to happen.

The only other thing I was thinking was if you had controlled folder access set, it will install NVDA but not create the desktop shortcut.  If that was the issue though, it wouldn't have worked any better with NVDA 2019.1 than 2019.3.

No, I don't have controlled folder access set. I checked this when it didn't work, because I knew it could be a problem. No, it's not active.

I do think there is a problem with the installation of 2019.3 though, because a lady on the German NVDA list reported the same problem. She's a very competent computer user and I'm sure she, too, knows how to deal with UAC. Maybe it doesn't affect systems where English is the default language... And maybe it wasn't reported much, because many people using NVDA 2019.3 will have updated an older version and won't have encountered this issue, because the shortcut and start menu entries had already been created by a previous installation of an older version of NVDA...

I, however, attempted a fresh install on a new machine.

Best

Sandra

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:43 AM Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...> wrote:

Hi Felix,


Thanks for your help. Unfortunately setting the NVDA language to English
didn't help. The failed installation not only faild to create the
desktop shortcut, but also didn't create NVDA entries in the start menu.
I installed NVDA 2019.1 first and then updated to 2019.3.1, that did the
trick.


Best


Sandra

Am 04.03.2020 um 13:22 schrieb Felix G.:
> Hello Sandra,
> the installation failed because NVDA was unable to create its desktop
> shortcut, for reasons I cannot begin to guess. I can think of two
> options:
> 1. Install without creating a desktop shortcut, then create one manually.
> 2. Sometimes, switching the NVDA language to English before installing
> fixes this problem. If you feel comfortable doing this, it may be the
> cleaner option.
> Hope this helps,
> Felix
>
> Am Mi., 4. März 2020 um 14:11 Uhr schrieb Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...>:
>> Hello,
>>
>>
>> I'm trying to install NVDA on a new machine running Windows 10 pro 1909.
>>
>>
>> I'm running  the installation file as administrator. I'm getting the message that installing NVDA has failed.
>>
>>
>> Please also see the log included below.
>>
>>
>> Does anyone know what the problem might be and how to solve it??
>>
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>> Sandra
>>
>>
>> INFO - __main__ (13:56:46.002) - MainThread (10924):
>> Starting NVDA version 2019.3.1
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
>> Config dir: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda
>> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loading config: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using Windows version 10.0.18363 workstation
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using Python version 3.7.5 (tags/v3.7.5:5c02a39a0b, Oct 14 2019, 23:09:19) [MSC v.1916 32 bit (Intel)]
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using comtypes version 1.1.7
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
>> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loaded synthDriver oneCore
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0
>> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Braille input initialized
>> INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using liblouis version 3.10.0
>> INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>> Using pySerial version 3.4
>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.412) - MainThread (10924):
>> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
>> INFO - brailleDisplayDrivers.handyTech.BrailleDisplayDriver.__init__ (13:56:46.464) - braille._BgThread (11016):
>> Found Easy Braille connected via hid (\\?\hid#vid_1fe4&pid_0044#7&7f9a61d&0&0000#{4d1e55b2-f16f-11cf-88cb-001111000030})
>> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.472) - braille._BgThread (11016):
>> Loaded braille display driver handyTech, current display has 40 cells.
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.582) - MainThread (10924):
>> Java Access Bridge support initialized
>> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:56:46.582) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (11020):
>> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
>> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.762) - MainThread (10924):
>> NVDA initialized
>> ERROR - RPC process 8756 (nvda_slave.exe) (13:57:05.773) - Dummy-1 (10840):
>> __main__.main:
>> slave error
>> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>    File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 47, in main
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 454, in install
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 261, in registerInstallation
>>    File "installer.pyc", line 58, in createShortcut
>>    File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyc", line 218, in __setattr__
>>    File "comtypes\automation.pyc", line 729, in _invoke
>> _ctypes.COMError: (-2147352567, 'Ausnahmefehler aufgetreten.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
>> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (13:57:05.793) - MainThread (10924):
>> Installation failed: 1
>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Web: www.nvaccess.org 

Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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Hi all,

After thinking about user experience surrounding configuring add-on settings, I decided to gather feedback about scrapping standalone settings dialog and unifying them under main Studio add-on settings:

Background: SPL add-on provides commands to open settings dialogs to configure add-on settings. These include:

• Alt+NVDA+number row 0: Studio add-on settings screen
• Alt+NVDA+Number row 1: end of track alarm
• Alt+NVDA+number row 2: song ramp alarm
• Alt+NvDA+number row 4: microphone alarm
• Unassigned command: metadata streaming

Of these, end of track alarm is the oldest code (implemented in 2014), while Studio add-on settings screen is the latest (added in 2018).

When I first introduced SPL add-on in 2014, my goal was to provide equivalent experience (or close to it) for users of scripts for JAWS and Window-Eyes. As part of this, end of track and song ramp/intro alarm dialogs were introduced, as JAWS scripts had commands to configure these settings. Then in 2015, I introduced the first version of Studio add-on settings dialog, bringing together various add-on settings in one place. Three years later, with NVDA 2018.2 introducing multi-category settings screen, SPL add-on followed suit, introducing its own multi-category settings screen.

While working on current version of SPL add-on settings screen, I created a dedicated “Alarms” panel to bring together settings related to alarms. As a result, you can now configure all three alarm categories – end of track, track intro, microphone – under one roof. This means there is duplication between Studio add-on settings screen and dedicated alarm settings dialog. At the same time, settings that are part of metadata streaming dialog were also incorporated into “Metadata streaming” category under add-on settings.

Now in 2020, while thinking about streamlining user experience when it comes to dealing with attempting to open multiple add-on settings dialog at once (something you should not do), I ran into a complication: in order to really streamline the user experience, a workaround must be developed, something that may or may not survive future NVDA releases. Thus after thinking about it, I decided to go with scrapping standalone settings dialogs in favor of unifying everything under SPL add-on settings. This means instead of Alt+NVDA+number row 1 opening end of track dialog, it’ll open Alarms category in add-on settings instead. Besides, since all alarm settings are housed under one category, it would make lives of users easier by presenting all alarm settings at once. I know that some of you may not like the direction this is going, but when it comes to add-on maintenance, some things must be changed in order to make the add-on future-proof and react better to changes in NVDA itself.

Question to you all: is this the right way to go?

Related to this: I’m also thinking about removing stream label command (F12) from encoders as it duplicates encoder settings – the very first option in encoder settings is stream label. The reasoning is same as above.

If this direction is adopted, it’ll be done in stages:

1. Version 20.04: change error messages when trying to open add-on settings dialog if another SPL add-on settings dialog is active (implemented).
2. Sometime in summer 2020 (winter in southern hemisphere): implement necessary changes so you can open specific parts of add-on settings using commands formerly used to open dedicated settings dialogs (see the example above). You will be able to toggle between “old” and “new” behavior for a time.
3. Later in 2020: if approved, make the new behavior the default.
4. Old code will not be removed – just commented out, as there are places where they can be used.
5. Sometime in the future: remove old code.

Comments are appreciated.

Cheers,

Joseph

what's your email address

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Subject: [nvda] off topic: to the christians of the list: anyone who is

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> hi.

> i am interested in discussion about technology, softwares, and

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> anyone who is interested to discuss these matters,

> please email me i am waiting for you!

> God bless you all!

> 

> --

> By God,

> were I given all the seven heavens

> with all they contain

> in order that

> I may disobey God

> by depriving an ant

> from the husk of a grain of barley,

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> 

>

>

hi.
i am interested in discussion about technology, softwares, and
religious discussions.
anyone who is interested to discuss these matters,
please email me i am waiting for you!
God bless you all!

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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali