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Re: copying a file path to the clipboard

Dan Beaver
 

Ok,  it took me a bit but I found a tool I have used for quite a while.


If you install this little tool it will make it very easy to copy the path of any file/folder to the clipboard.  It supports multiple formats of the path


https://pathcopycopy.github.io/


No endorsement, just experience.


Dan Beaver


Re: Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

Gene
 

If that happened to me, I would have tried two possible options:
First, get a sighted person to turn accessibility features on in the new version.  They can be turned on and off.  As far as I know, in older versions, before 57.x, there was no user option to do so.  I don't know about a possible option in about:config.  Making this change may have allowed other versions to work correctly.
 
the other thing I would have tried, if I didn't want to get sighted help or it wasn't conveniently available, is system restore, one of the most underused tools for correcting odd, unforeseen problems for which a good alternative possible fix is not known or available. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 9:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

That happened to me too.

Even after uninstalling FF, and restarting, it’s like once you had the inaccessible version on your system, all versions after that will be inaccessible.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

That isn't plausible.  I suspect some problem with your system. 

 

I may try downloading the portable version again to see what happens.  I downloaded it perhaps two months ago and it works properly.  Do you have another computer to try it on? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:38 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

Thanks but even the ESR Portable version is now warning that Accessibility Features have been disabled wen I install it.

I understand the question somebody else posted last week about how could portable apps could now be made accessible.

It does look like Mozilla has pulled accessibility support on all it current portable downloads.

After installation I can access the menus and have been through all the options but can find no way to make even this ESR version accessible.

I can open a web page such as www.bbc.co.uk  using control L and the title of the window will say BBC home but there is no way to ;read any of the content in the resulting page or navigate using tab, or element shortcuts H for heading etc.

I got similarly zero feedback when I opened www.google.co.uk.

Firefox ESR and NVDA announces Google home but it is impossible to navigate to or read any of the web page or edit fields with NVDA.

NVDA does not even recognise the BBC Home page as a web page in this ESR portable version , if I try insert F7 for Elements list all that comes up is a message from Firefox asking me if I want caret browsing enabled.

For reference NVDA is still working normally with installed versions  of Waterfox and Chrome and Edge and even Internet Explorer.

I am on Windows 10 latest release and NVDA 2018.1

David Griffith

.

 

w

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 14 March 2018 22:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

You can download Firefox portable versions from portableapps.com

 

You will see a link to the ESR version on that page.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:14 PM

Subject: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

Following suggestions on this list to use portable versions of Firefox, potentially with Webvisum, I downloaded and installed first of all the portable versions of Firefox 52 and then Firefox 51.

It was surprising that even for Portable versions there was an installation process though the result  was a  folder labelled Firefox Portable with a portable executable in it.

I was more surprised after both installs that a message came up saying that accessibility features had been disable , despite these being older versions  of Firefox.

Sure enough  after running the programs I found these installs unusable both with NVDA and Jaws 2018.

I downloaded these portable versions of Firefox from the Mozilla site but it appears that they are not genuine older versions as they all appear to have the accessibility problem.

Is there an alternative source of portable versions  that are accessible?

David Griffith

 

How have people got  around this?

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

 


Re: Firefox 59 and NVDA

 

hi.
i found this sentence in firefox 59 whats new.

  unresolved
Windows 7 users using accessibility services (like the Windows
On-Screen Keyboard) may observe browser crashes after the update to
Firefox 59. As a workaround, affected users can prevent external apps
from triggering accessibility services in Firefox.

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/59.0/releasenotes/

On 3/15/18, Walmir Schultz via Groups.Io
<wsautodidata=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

I tried to use Firefox 59 but, when a page is loaded,, i hear only the
title and NVDA saying "unknown".

Nothing works (arrows, numbers to navigate across headers, h, l, etc).

I'm using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 and Firefox 59.0, all 32 bits.

So, I had to reinstall Firefox 52 ESR.

Someone else can confirm this problem?






--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

Ervin, Glenn
 

That happened to me too.

Even after uninstalling FF, and restarting, it’s like once you had the inaccessible version on your system, all versions after that will be inaccessible.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

That isn't plausible.  I suspect some problem with your system. 

 

I may try downloading the portable version again to see what happens.  I downloaded it perhaps two months ago and it works properly.  Do you have another computer to try it on? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 6:38 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

Thanks but even the ESR Portable version is now warning that Accessibility Features have been disabled wen I install it.

I understand the question somebody else posted last week about how could portable apps could now be made accessible.

It does look like Mozilla has pulled accessibility support on all it current portable downloads.

After installation I can access the menus and have been through all the options but can find no way to make even this ESR version accessible.

I can open a web page such as www.bbc.co.uk  using control L and the title of the window will say BBC home but there is no way to ;read any of the content in the resulting page or navigate using tab, or element shortcuts H for heading etc.

I got similarly zero feedback when I opened www.google.co.uk.

Firefox ESR and NVDA announces Google home but it is impossible to navigate to or read any of the web page or edit fields with NVDA.

NVDA does not even recognise the BBC Home page as a web page in this ESR portable version , if I try insert F7 for Elements list all that comes up is a message from Firefox asking me if I want caret browsing enabled.

For reference NVDA is still working normally with installed versions  of Waterfox and Chrome and Edge and even Internet Explorer.

I am on Windows 10 latest release and NVDA 2018.1

David Griffith

.

 

w

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: Gene
Sent: 14 March 2018 22:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

You can download Firefox portable versions from portableapps.com

 

You will see a link to the ESR version on that page.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:14 PM

Subject: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

Following suggestions on this list to use portable versions of Firefox, potentially with Webvisum, I downloaded and installed first of all the portable versions of Firefox 52 and then Firefox 51.

It was surprising that even for Portable versions there was an installation process though the result  was a  folder labelled Firefox Portable with a portable executable in it.

I was more surprised after both installs that a message came up saying that accessibility features had been disable , despite these being older versions  of Firefox.

Sure enough  after running the programs I found these installs unusable both with NVDA and Jaws 2018.

I downloaded these portable versions of Firefox from the Mozilla site but it appears that they are not genuine older versions as they all appear to have the accessibility problem.

Is there an alternative source of portable versions  that are accessible?

David Griffith

 

How have people got  around this?

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

 


Re: Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

Ervin, Glenn
 

I had a problem with my portable version a long time back, right after all this trouble started with FireFox.

I still don’t have an accessible FF.

Glenn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Griffith
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

Following suggestions on this list to use portable versions of Firefox, potentially with Webvisum, I downloaded and installed first of all the portable versions of Firefox 52 and then Firefox 51.

It was surprising that even for Portable versions there was an installation process though the result  was a  folder labelled Firefox Portable with a portable executable in it.

I was more surprised after both installs that a message came up saying that accessibility features had been disable , despite these being older versions  of Firefox.

Sure enough  after running the programs I found these installs unusable both with NVDA and Jaws 2018.

I downloaded these portable versions of Firefox from the Mozilla site but it appears that they are not genuine older versions as they all appear to have the accessibility problem.

Is there an alternative source of portable versions  that are accessible?

David Griffith

 

How have people got  around this?

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 


Firefox 59 and NVDA

Walmir Schultz <wsautodidata@...>
 

Hi,

I tried to use Firefox 59 but, when a page is loaded,, i hear only the title and NVDA saying "unknown".

Nothing works (arrows, numbers to navigate across headers, h, l, etc).

I'm using Windows 7, NVDA 2018.1 and Firefox 59.0, all 32 bits.

So, I had to reinstall Firefox 52 ESR.

Someone else can confirm this problem?


Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

Gene
 

When you scan the system, browser files are scanned as well. 
All files are scanned in a full system scan. In a quick scan, locations are scanned that are most likely to contain infected files.  I've never specifically checked, but I'm sure that areas that are likely to have infected files from browsing are scanned.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

They also said internet explorer is not affected only firefox

So the issue is with firefox and not on the system

So scanning the system will do nothing

 

From: Gene
Sent: 15 March 2018 13:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

However it presents itself, it is malware, which, whatever may or may not appear on screen, presents audio as well.  Whether malware presents popups or not, sophisticated malware can't be stopped by a popup blocker.  Malware designers, who want to make money from their malware, design malware that evades popup blockers. 

 

The original message said the following:

somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the

computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical

support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or

bank account!)

 

No mention was made of anything popping up whether there is anything or not.  Only audio was described.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:52 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

If i read the initial post correctly he was referring to a pop up which is not unlike a windows dialog which cannot be closed unless you close the browser window

That is why a more strict popup block addon may prevent this type of dialog which the built in pop up blocker is not capable of preventing

Also a ad blocker addon will also help along with a modified hosts file, will stop any of this annoying advertising from appearing

 

Just scanning for malware will do nothing that i can be certain of

 

 

From: Gene
Sent: 15 March 2018 12:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

You can try Malware Bytes.  It may eliminate the problem.  The suggestion as to an ad blocker may help you from being infected but you already are.  A popup blocker, which browsers generally have already and which are already on, I believe, by default, may help you from being infected but, as I said, you already are.  Neither program will keep those announcements from being heard.  Once infected, malware evades popup blockers and ad blockers.  If it didn't, those designing the malware would be incompetent malware designers.  their malware would be much less effective.

 

Also, do a Google search for what is causing the problem.  Don't run anything that offers to fix problems.  Go to reputable sites with reputable information that come up in the search such as bleeping computer.  Don't just go to any site.   I would suggest, specifically, seeing what information Bleeping computer has on the subject if you do a search.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:19 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

Do you have a ad blocker and/or popup blocker installed?

That may help

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:41 PM

Subject: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

 

Hi all,

 

somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the

computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical

support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or

bank account!)

 

Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other tools

people had been able to use with NVDA.

 

Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is not

affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current Firefox

version I was using, but that just played the same malware. Adwcleaner did

detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.

 

any suggestions would be very welcome :)

 

Giles

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

Gene
 

That is the speculation. 
 
Gene
----- original Message -----

From: zahra
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

thanks so much gene for explanation that why mozilla removed ability
to disable javascript from option!
i did not know and i appreciate your explanation.
you mean, that people thought java and javascript are the same and
disabled javascript, because they thought these are the same!
and it  made problems for them in using websites.
so, firefox developers removed thisfrom option and just transfered it
to about:config.
am i right? did i understand correctly?
about disabling frames, it was one option in about:config firefox 22
and previous versions that made possible to disable displaying frames
without any extension!
and it was a great feature, (specially for me who dont like installing addons).

On 3/15/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I don't know what you mean by disabling frames.  You can't turn off JAVA
> script by changing a setting in the options dialog in later versions.  You
> can achieve just about the same level of convenience if you use a portable
> version and an installed version or two different copies of the portable
> version.  One would have JAVA script enabled, and you would use it on sit3es
> that require JAVA script, and the other would have JAVA script disabled,
> which you would use for sites that don't require JAVA script.  the two
> programs can either be the same or different versions.  You can turn off
> JAVA script using about:config settings.
>
> It was speculated, but I never saw any discussion from Mozilla, that this
> feature was removed from the options dialog because people were confusing
> JAVA scripts with the program JAVA.  It was speculated that people were
> turning off JAVA scripts because of all the warnings about the program JAVA,
> then contacting Mozilla technical support because their browsers weren't
> working properly.
>
> It happens with everything that becomes a consumer product.  It gets dumbed
> down.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: zahra
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:54 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA
>
>
> i believe that the best way for not infected system is disabling
> javascript.
> for firefox 22 and previous versions, it was possible to disable
> frames completely, but i am very sad and dont understand whats the
> reason that developers removed this great option!
>
> On 3/15/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>> You can try Malware Bytes.  It may eliminate the problem.  The suggestion
>> as
>> to an ad blocker may help you from being infected but you already are.  A
>> popup blocker, which browsers generally have already and which are
>> already
>> on, I believe, by default, may help you from being infected but, as I
>> said,
>> you already are.  Neither program will keep those announcements from
>> being
>> heard.  Once infected, malware evades popup blockers and ad blockers.  If
>> it
>> didn't, those designing the malware would be incompetent malware
>> designers.
>> their malware would be much less effective.
>>
>> Also, do a Google search for what is causing the problem.  Don't run
>> anything that offers to fix problems.  Go to reputable sites with
>> reputable
>> information that come up in the search such as bleeping computer.  Don't
>> just go to any site.   I would suggest, specifically, seeing what
>> information Bleeping computer has on the subject if you do a search.
>>
>> Gene
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: Chris via Groups.Io
>> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:19 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with
>> NVDA
>>
>>
>> Do you have a ad blocker and/or popup blocker installed?
>>
>> That may help
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>
>> From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>
>>
>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:41 PM
>>
>> Subject: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>>
>>
>> somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that
>> the
>>
>>
>> computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical
>>
>> support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer
>> (or
>>
>>
>> bank account!)
>>
>>
>>
>> Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other
>> tools
>>
>>
>> people had been able to use with NVDA.
>>
>>
>>
>> Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is
>> not
>>
>>
>> affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current Firefox
>>
>> version I was using, but that just played the same malware. Adwcleaner
>> did
>>
>> detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.
>>
>>
>>
>> any suggestions would be very welcome :)
>>
>>
>>
>> Giles
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> --
> By God,
> were I given all the seven heavens
> with all they contain
> in order that
> I may disobey God
> by depriving an ant
> from the husk of a grain of barley,
> I would not do it.
> imam ali
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

Chris
 

They also said internet explorer is not affected only firefox

So the issue is with firefox and not on the system

So scanning the system will do nothing

 

From: Gene
Sent: 15 March 2018 13:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

However it presents itself, it is malware, which, whatever may or may not appear on screen, presents audio as well.  Whether malware presents popups or not, sophisticated malware can't be stopped by a popup blocker.  Malware designers, who want to make money from their malware, design malware that evades popup blockers. 

 

The original message said the following:

somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the

computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical

support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or

bank account!)

 

No mention was made of anything popping up whether there is anything or not.  Only audio was described.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:52 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

If i read the initial post correctly he was referring to a pop up which is not unlike a windows dialog which cannot be closed unless you close the browser window

That is why a more strict popup block addon may prevent this type of dialog which the built in pop up blocker is not capable of preventing

Also a ad blocker addon will also help along with a modified hosts file, will stop any of this annoying advertising from appearing

 

Just scanning for malware will do nothing that i can be certain of

 

 

From: Gene
Sent: 15 March 2018 12:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

You can try Malware Bytes.  It may eliminate the problem.  The suggestion as to an ad blocker may help you from being infected but you already are.  A popup blocker, which browsers generally have already and which are already on, I believe, by default, may help you from being infected but, as I said, you already are.  Neither program will keep those announcements from being heard.  Once infected, malware evades popup blockers and ad blockers.  If it didn't, those designing the malware would be incompetent malware designers.  their malware would be much less effective.

 

Also, do a Google search for what is causing the problem.  Don't run anything that offers to fix problems.  Go to reputable sites with reputable information that come up in the search such as bleeping computer.  Don't just go to any site.   I would suggest, specifically, seeing what information Bleeping computer has on the subject if you do a search.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:19 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

Do you have a ad blocker and/or popup blocker installed?

That may help

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:41 PM

Subject: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

 

Hi all,

 

somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the

computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical

support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or

bank account!)

 

Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other tools

people had been able to use with NVDA.

 

Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is not

affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current Firefox

version I was using, but that just played the same malware. Adwcleaner did

detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.

 

any suggestions would be very welcome :)

 

Giles

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

thanks so much gene for explanation that why mozilla removed ability
to disable javascript from option!
i did not know and i appreciate your explanation.
you mean, that people thought java and javascript are the same and
disabled javascript, because they thought these are the same!
and it made problems for them in using websites.
so, firefox developers removed thisfrom option and just transfered it
to about:config.
am i right? did i understand correctly?
about disabling frames, it was one option in about:config firefox 22
and previous versions that made possible to disable displaying frames
without any extension!
and it was a great feature, (specially for me who dont like installing addons).

On 3/15/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I don't know what you mean by disabling frames. You can't turn off JAVA
script by changing a setting in the options dialog in later versions. You
can achieve just about the same level of convenience if you use a portable
version and an installed version or two different copies of the portable
version. One would have JAVA script enabled, and you would use it on sit3es
that require JAVA script, and the other would have JAVA script disabled,
which you would use for sites that don't require JAVA script. the two
programs can either be the same or different versions. You can turn off
JAVA script using about:config settings.

It was speculated, but I never saw any discussion from Mozilla, that this
feature was removed from the options dialog because people were confusing
JAVA scripts with the program JAVA. It was speculated that people were
turning off JAVA scripts because of all the warnings about the program JAVA,
then contacting Mozilla technical support because their browsers weren't
working properly.

It happens with everything that becomes a consumer product. It gets dumbed
down.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: zahra
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA


i believe that the best way for not infected system is disabling
javascript.
for firefox 22 and previous versions, it was possible to disable
frames completely, but i am very sad and dont understand whats the
reason that developers removed this great option!

On 3/15/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
You can try Malware Bytes. It may eliminate the problem. The suggestion
as
to an ad blocker may help you from being infected but you already are. A
popup blocker, which browsers generally have already and which are
already
on, I believe, by default, may help you from being infected but, as I
said,
you already are. Neither program will keep those announcements from
being
heard. Once infected, malware evades popup blockers and ad blockers. If
it
didn't, those designing the malware would be incompetent malware
designers.
their malware would be much less effective.

Also, do a Google search for what is causing the problem. Don't run
anything that offers to fix problems. Go to reputable sites with
reputable
information that come up in the search such as bleeping computer. Don't
just go to any site. I would suggest, specifically, seeing what
information Bleeping computer has on the subject if you do a search.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with
NVDA


Do you have a ad blocker and/or popup blocker installed?

That may help



----- Original Message -----

From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@gmail.com>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:41 PM

Subject: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA





Hi all,



somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that
the


computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical

support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer
(or


bank account!)



Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other
tools


people had been able to use with NVDA.



Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is
not


affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current Firefox

version I was using, but that just played the same malware. Adwcleaner
did

detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.



any suggestions would be very welcome :)



Giles











--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

Gene
 

I don't know what you mean by disabling frames.  You can't turn off JAVA script by changing a setting in the options dialog in later versions.  You can achieve just about the same level of convenience if you use a portable version and an installed version or two different copies of the portable version.  One would have JAVA script enabled, and you would use it on sit3es that require JAVA script, and the other would have JAVA script disabled, which you would use for sites that don't require JAVA script.  the two programs can either be the same or different versions.  You can turn off JAVA script using about:config settings.
 
It was speculated, but I never saw any discussion from Mozilla, that this feature was removed from the options dialog because people were confusing JAVA scripts with the program JAVA.  It was speculated that people were turning off JAVA scripts because of all the warnings about the program JAVA, then contacting Mozilla technical support because their browsers weren't working properly. 
 
It happens with everything that becomes a consumer product.  It gets dumbed down. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:54 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

i believe that the best way for not infected system is disabling javascript.
for firefox 22 and previous versions, it was possible to disable
frames completely, but i am very sad and dont understand whats the
reason that developers removed this great option!

On 3/15/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> You can try Malware Bytes.  It may eliminate the problem.  The suggestion as
> to an ad blocker may help you from being infected but you already are.  A
> popup blocker, which browsers generally have already and which are already
> on, I believe, by default, may help you from being infected but, as I said,
> you already are.  Neither program will keep those announcements from being
> heard.  Once infected, malware evades popup blockers and ad blockers.  If it
> didn't, those designing the malware would be incompetent malware designers.
> their malware would be much less effective.
>
> Also, do a Google search for what is causing the problem.  Don't run
> anything that offers to fix problems.  Go to reputable sites with reputable
> information that come up in the search such as bleeping computer.  Don't
> just go to any site.   I would suggest, specifically, seeing what
> information Bleeping computer has on the subject if you do a search.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Chris via Groups.Io
> Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:19 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA
>
>
> Do you have a ad blocker and/or popup blocker installed?
>
> That may help
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>
>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:41 PM
>
> Subject: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the
>
>
> computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical
>
> support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or
>
>
> bank account!)
>
>
>
> Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other tools
>
>
> people had been able to use with NVDA.
>
>
>
> Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is not
>
>
> affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current Firefox
>
> version I was using, but that just played the same malware. Adwcleaner did
>
> detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.
>
>
>
> any suggestions would be very welcome :)
>
>
>
> Giles
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



Re: Ms will be releasing Windows 10 free soon

Devin Prater
 

That’s pretty good if it happens.

On Mar 15, 2018, at 6:47 AM, Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi. I came across this very interesting vedio on YOUTUBe. Just as Apple and Google have made their operating systems free on their devices, so does Microsoft intend to do the same, though it was relatively slow to catch up with it's two rivals. Of course, Google and Apple profit by other means, so will Microsoft. Also, From this video, Windows will soon concentrate on a feature known as Virtual reality. How far it will affect Accessibility, I leave you to judge for yourselves. Here is the video link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk8ttvw8-ng

Cheers!




Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

Gene
 

However it presents itself, it is malware, which, whatever may or may not appear on screen, presents audio as well.  Whether malware presents popups or not, sophisticated malware can't be stopped by a popup blocker.  Malware designers, who want to make money from their malware, design malware that evades popup blockers. 
 
The original message said the following:

somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the

computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical

support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or

bank account!)

 

No mention was made of anything popping up whether there is anything or not.  Only audio was described.

 

Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 7:52 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

If i read the initial post correctly he was referring to a pop up which is not unlike a windows dialog which cannot be closed unless you close the browser window

That is why a more strict popup block addon may prevent this type of dialog which the built in pop up blocker is not capable of preventing

Also a ad blocker addon will also help along with a modified hosts file, will stop any of this annoying advertising from appearing

 

Just scanning for malware will do nothing that i can be certain of

 

 

From: Gene
Sent: 15 March 2018 12:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

You can try Malware Bytes.  It may eliminate the problem.  The suggestion as to an ad blocker may help you from being infected but you already are.  A popup blocker, which browsers generally have already and which are already on, I believe, by default, may help you from being infected but, as I said, you already are.  Neither program will keep those announcements from being heard.  Once infected, malware evades popup blockers and ad blockers.  If it didn't, those designing the malware would be incompetent malware designers.  their malware would be much less effective.

 

Also, do a Google search for what is causing the problem.  Don't run anything that offers to fix problems.  Go to reputable sites with reputable information that come up in the search such as bleeping computer.  Don't just go to any site.   I would suggest, specifically, seeing what information Bleeping computer has on the subject if you do a search.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:19 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

Do you have a ad blocker and/or popup blocker installed?

That may help

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:41 PM

Subject: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

 

Hi all,

 

somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the

computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical

support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or

bank account!)

 

Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other tools

people had been able to use with NVDA.

 

Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is not

affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current Firefox

version I was using, but that just played the same malware. Adwcleaner did

detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.

 

any suggestions would be very welcome :)

 

Giles

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

i believe that the best way for not infected system is disabling javascript.
for firefox 22 and previous versions, it was possible to disable
frames completely, but i am very sad and dont understand whats the
reason that developers removed this great option!

On 3/15/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
You can try Malware Bytes. It may eliminate the problem. The suggestion as
to an ad blocker may help you from being infected but you already are. A
popup blocker, which browsers generally have already and which are already
on, I believe, by default, may help you from being infected but, as I said,
you already are. Neither program will keep those announcements from being
heard. Once infected, malware evades popup blockers and ad blockers. If it
didn't, those designing the malware would be incompetent malware designers.
their malware would be much less effective.

Also, do a Google search for what is causing the problem. Don't run
anything that offers to fix problems. Go to reputable sites with reputable
information that come up in the search such as bleeping computer. Don't
just go to any site. I would suggest, specifically, seeing what
information Bleeping computer has on the subject if you do a search.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA


Do you have a ad blocker and/or popup blocker installed?

That may help



----- Original Message -----

From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@gmail.com>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:41 PM

Subject: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA





Hi all,



somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the


computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical

support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or


bank account!)



Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other tools


people had been able to use with NVDA.



Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is not


affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current Firefox

version I was using, but that just played the same malware. Adwcleaner did

detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.



any suggestions would be very welcome :)



Giles










--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

Chris
 

If i read the initial post correctly he was referring to a pop up which is not unlike a windows dialog which cannot be closed unless you close the browser window

That is why a more strict popup block addon may prevent this type of dialog which the built in pop up blocker is not capable of preventing

Also a ad blocker addon will also help along with a modified hosts file, will stop any of this annoying advertising from appearing

 

Just scanning for malware will do nothing that i can be certain of

 

 

From: Gene
Sent: 15 March 2018 12:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

You can try Malware Bytes.  It may eliminate the problem.  The suggestion as to an ad blocker may help you from being infected but you already are.  A popup blocker, which browsers generally have already and which are already on, I believe, by default, may help you from being infected but, as I said, you already are.  Neither program will keep those announcements from being heard.  Once infected, malware evades popup blockers and ad blockers.  If it didn't, those designing the malware would be incompetent malware designers.  their malware would be much less effective.

 

Also, do a Google search for what is causing the problem.  Don't run anything that offers to fix problems.  Go to reputable sites with reputable information that come up in the search such as bleeping computer.  Don't just go to any site.   I would suggest, specifically, seeing what information Bleeping computer has on the subject if you do a search.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:19 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

Do you have a ad blocker and/or popup blocker installed?

That may help

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:41 PM

Subject: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

 

Hi all,

 

somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the

computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical

support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or

bank account!)

 

Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other tools

people had been able to use with NVDA.

 

Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is not

affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current Firefox

version I was using, but that just played the same malware. Adwcleaner did

detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.

 

any suggestions would be very welcome :)

 

Giles

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

Gene
 

You can try Malware Bytes.  It may eliminate the problem.  The suggestion as to an ad blocker may help you from being infected but you already are.  A popup blocker, which browsers generally have already and which are already on, I believe, by default, may help you from being infected but, as I said, you already are.  Neither program will keep those announcements from being heard.  Once infected, malware evades popup blockers and ad blockers.  If it didn't, those designing the malware would be incompetent malware designers.  their malware would be much less effective.
 
Also, do a Google search for what is causing the problem.  Don't run anything that offers to fix problems.  Go to reputable sites with reputable information that come up in the search such as bleeping computer.  Don't just go to any site.   I would suggest, specifically, seeing what information Bleeping computer has on the subject if you do a search.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

Do you have a ad blocker and/or popup blocker installed?

That may help

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:41 PM

Subject: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

 

Hi all,

 

somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the

computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical

support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or

bank account!)

 

Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other tools

people had been able to use with NVDA.

 

Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is not

affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current Firefox

version I was using, but that just played the same malware. Adwcleaner did

detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.

 

any suggestions would be very welcome :)

 

Giles

 

 

 

 


Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

Jiří Fenz <jirifenz@...>
 

Hello,

which windows version do you use?

For windows lower than 10 is veri goot solution Combofix.

Also JRT (junkware removal tool) is veri good.

Both works in console, so no problems.

Btw - when talking about Console.

If somebody using console applications, nice alternative with more power and effective interface is Color Console.

Program site: https://www.softwareok.com/?seite=Freeware/ColorConsole

But don't use it with mallware removal tools - it probably closes it.

Cheers

Jiri Fenz


Dne 15.03.2018 v 10:10 Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io napsal(a):

This screen is it simply a page being used as a home page? Have you done the obvious and looked at the settings?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:54 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA


Don't know how powerful the Malicious Software Removal Tool  is but you can always run it.  At the run command type mrt and press enter then follow the prompts.

On 3/14/2018 5:41 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,

somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or bank account!)

Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other tools people had been able to use with NVDA.

Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is not affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current Firefox version I was using, but that just played the same malware. Adwcleaner did detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.

any suggestions would be very welcome :)

Giles











Ms will be releasing Windows 10 free soon

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi.  I came across this very interesting vedio on YOUTUBe.  Just as Apple and Google have made their operating systems free on their devices, so does Microsoft intend to do the same, though it was relatively slow to catch up with it's two rivals.  Of course, Google and Apple profit by other means, so will Microsoft.  Also, From this video, Windows will soon concentrate on a feature known as Virtual reality.  How far it will affect Accessibility, I leave you to judge for yourselves.  Here is the video link.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk8ttvw8-ng

Cheers!


Re: Next snaps no longer can be updated automatically

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Not sure which one I have at the moment, but my point was, it could not be fixed in any other way than a running of the archive with the fixed code.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Michel Such" <michel.such@free.fr>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 9:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Next snaps no longer can be updated automatically


Hi Brian,


The problem seems to have been fixed with next 14949,e17dfb0d.

Once you've installed this one or any newer, the update process should
return to normal.


Michel Such <mailto:michel.such@free.fr>
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Le 15/03/2018 à 10:42, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io a écrit :
I note with interest that the last few next snapshots have required me
to go to the %temp% folder and run the downloaded archive manually. It
seems that the prompt for update or postpone gives an error when it
tries to display, at least on my windows 7 machine it does. However
apart from then going through the old update folder selection process,
it works.
I see two similar issues reported on Github about this so I suspect it
will be sorted soon though the first update from a problem version may
need to be done manually as the code with the bug will still be
running of course!

Brian

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Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

Michael Capelle <mcapelle@...>
 

i am running malware bytes on windows 7 and 10, on windows 10, i am running windows defender.
 

Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2018 5:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA
 

Do you have a ad blocker and/or popup blocker installed?

That may help

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Giles Turnbull" <giles.turnbull@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 10:41 PM

Subject: [nvda] Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

 

 

Hi all,

 

somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the

computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical

support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or

bank account!)

 

Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other tools

people had been able to use with NVDA.

 

Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is not

affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current Firefox

version I was using, but that just played the same malware. Adwcleaner did

detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.

 

any suggestions would be very welcome :)

 

Giles