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Re: NVDA 20.4 beta and Chrome acting flakey

Jason White
 


On 12/25/20 10:25 AM, George Kerscher wrote:
Also, how do I roll back to the previous version?
I've never had to do this, but you could visit nvaccess.com and install 2020.3.

 



NVDA 20.4 beta and Chrome acting flakey

George Kerscher
 

Hello,

 

With the latest beta, I am having problems with web pages. In GitHub, I found it almost impossible to create an issue and provide a description. It seems to flip to a new location on the page when switching from browse to edit mode.

 

Also, how do I roll back to the previous version?

 

Best

George

 

 

 

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Tiger software suite accessibility with NVDA?

Josh Kennedy
 
Edited

hi,

Is tiger software suite the software used by the tiger braille embossers along with Microsoft word is it accessible with screen readers such as or NVDA? I am considering saving money and getting the basic configuration of the braille buddy embosser. But first I would like to know if the tiger software suite is accessible or not. I would probably just be using it with braille blaster, perky duck, and perhaps Microsoft office once I buy the home version.
Sent from my iPhone


Re: LibreOffice Query

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

I don’t know what you mean by “TGeneral Settings”.  I get details of the filename etc when I first enter a spreadsheet and I press f2 then escape to start reading the sheet properly.

 

As you are a a seasoned user, do you know how to prevent Libra Office Calc from truncating trailing zeroes, for example 123.40 is displayed as 123.4 even though the cell is formatted for 2 decimal places.  I have spent hours trying to find a solution but nothing seems to work.

 

Happy Chrismas

Chris

 

From: Ivan pivac
Sent: 25 December 2020 04:35
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] LibreOffice Query

 

Hi Everyone,

 

 

I have been using LibreOffice successfully for a number of years. 

Recently, I have noted that when in a spreadsheet, NVDA begins to

announce automatically the general properties of the file.  The only

method I have found to remedy this is to reset general properties.  I do

suspect that this problem has occurred in the latest version of NVDA. 

Any suggestions how to resolve this issue would be appreciated.  I

haven't found any setting in NVDA to help.

 

 

 

 

Many thanks

 

Ivan

 

 

 

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LibreOffice Query

Ivan pivac
 

Hi Everyone,


I have been using LibreOffice successfully for a number of years.  Recently, I have noted that when in a spreadsheet, NVDA begins to announce automatically the general properties of the file.  The only method I have found to remedy this is to reset general properties.  I do suspect that this problem has occurred in the latest version of NVDA.  Any suggestions how to resolve this issue would be appreciated.  I haven't found any setting in NVDA to help.




Many thanks

Ivan



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Re: Reading highlighted columns in MS word

Vaibhav Saraf
 

Yeah, unfortunately NVDA + F is not reading the correct colors in these cases.


On Fri, 25 Dec 2020 at 08:32, Aravind R <aravind.andhrabank@...> wrote:
Dear team,

I have a word document of my bank, where questions and answers are
listed as a table.
There, answers are highlighted with separate color.
If i press insert+F after making NVDA announce color in document
setting, still its saying default color everywhere.
Is there any way to announce column color alone using NVDA?
Else, i have to depend on sighted to find out correct highlighted answer.

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Reading highlighted columns in MS word

Aravind R
 

Dear team,

I have a word document of my bank, where questions and answers are
listed as a table.
There, answers are highlighted with separate color.
If i press insert+F after making NVDA announce color in document
setting, still its saying default color everywhere.
Is there any way to announce column color alone using NVDA?
Else, i have to depend on sighted to find out correct highlighted answer.

--


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nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda specialised mortgage store, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593,
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.
aravind.rajendran@bankofbaroda.co.in.


Re: anyone willing to look into NVDA and Zara Radio?

 

Hi all,
At least the interface looks promising (testing Zara Radio 1.6 free edition). The biggest issue might be that, despite being a program that uses a toolkit known for good interface accessibility, there's no label for controls and keyboard navigation is incomplete.
Technical: it uses wxWidgets, a toolkit that's known for great accessibility (wxWidgets is the same toolkit that powers NVDA's own graphical interface, so we already have proof of its potential). If keyboard accessibility and labels issues are solved, it can serve as a viable and low-cost alternative to StationPlaylist Studio.
For reference, here's how I tested Zara Radio:
1. Download Zara Radio from: https://www.zarastudio.es/download.php
2. Installed Zara Radio.
3. Once Zara Radio loads, I used Tab key to navigate around the interface.
4. I used object navigation (NvDA+Numpad arrows in desktop layout) to look at its interface, along with using screen review to look at its layout.
5. I opened Python Console to find out the window class name for the foreground object, and it turned up a common window class name used by wxWidgets applications. This is more than enough to tell me about the accessibility potential.
6. I then moved to both unlabeled lists and pressed NVDA+F1 to obtain developer info for these lists, and they are SysListView32 lists. Among other things, it will allow you to use table navigation commands to examine tracks and what not. This is the same approach used in StationPlaylist add-on, although in the case of SPL, I had to force NVDA to treat playlists as SysListView32 items in order to enable table navigation commands.
Bob indicates that he wrote to developers with no reply; or rather, I think folks won't respond until January. Come January, if Bob doesn’t get an answer from the developers, let us know so someone from the NVDA community can write to developers and copy NV Access in the process. If developers are willing to work with screen reader users, that's great, otherwise we can at least convince them about the viability of their software for blind broadcasters. Only if developers are unwilling to listen to screen reader users should the community consider writing an app module and package it as an add-on in order to highlight lack of accessibility (hopefully that can serve to persuade some developers to change their minds and collaborate with us). In other words, it isn't really NVDA's fault, but more towards the app that can see some improvements.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Thursday, December 24, 2020 5:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] anyone willing to look into NVDA and Zara Radio?

I tried to contact them to ask a few questions as to how to do things when I first installed the program, but I never heard back. Many of the accessibility bugs I've found workarounds for, the event scheduler is probably the biggest one there doesn't seem to be an accessible way to access at the moment.

On 12/24/20, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Have you contacted the developer and shown them via video if possible
what is and is not accessible? this would be a good start if you did
not do this already.

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On 24 Dec 2020, at 16:00, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:

Hi all,
Can anyone look into NVDA with Zara Radio? They have a paid version
and a free version, which is the one I have. There are three things
I'd like taken a look at:
1. Apparently, there are buttons at the bottom of the window for
scheduling events, adding jingles, changing the playlist mode, and a
couple other things I can't remember at the moment, but there seems
to be no way to access them with conventional navigation methods. Can
anyone try to use object navigation to try and access these buttons
and then walk me through how to do it?
2. When playing and the Zara window has focus, NVDA speaks an endless
series of percentages. Can a change be made so that these aren't
spoken?
3. When working with the playlist, there are actually two lists,
neither of which are read by NVDA. I can see what is in them, but
using NVDA I don't know what they are. I can't remember what System
Access reads for the first one if it is empty, but if there are
elements in it and a length is available, it actually reads the
length. When tabbing, System Access also reads that the second list
is the upcoming events list. Can a change be made in NVDA so that it
reads these things?
Bob







Re: anyone willing to look into NVDA and Zara Radio?

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

I tried to contact them to ask a few questions as to how to do things
when I first installed the program, but I never heard back. Many of
the accessibility bugs I've found workarounds for, the event scheduler
is probably the biggest one there doesn't seem to be an accessible way
to access at the moment.

On 12/24/20, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Have you contacted the developer and shown them via video if possible
what is and is not accessible? this would be a good start if you did not
do this already.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our
[website.](http://www.tffppodcast.com)

Check out my [adventures with a shadow
machine.](http://tffppodcast.com/shadow)

to subscribe to the feed click [here](http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp)
and you can also [follow us on twitter](http://twitter.com/tffppodcast)

Our [discord](http://discord.tffppodcast.com) is where you will know
when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum) Feel free to give
the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit [my main lbry
page](http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum) and my [tffp lbry
page](http://lbry.tv/@tffp) You will also be able to buy some of my
products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go
[here](Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast)

On 24 Dec 2020, at 16:00, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:

Hi all,
Can anyone look into NVDA with Zara Radio? They have a paid version
and a free version, which is the one I have. There are three things
I'd like taken a look at:
1. Apparently, there are buttons at the bottom of the window for
scheduling events, adding jingles, changing the playlist mode, and a
couple other things I can't remember at the moment, but there seems to
be no way to access them with conventional navigation methods. Can
anyone try to use object navigation to try and access these buttons
and then walk me through how to do it?
2. When playing and the Zara window has focus, NVDA speaks an endless
series of percentages. Can a change be made so that these aren't
spoken?
3. When working with the playlist, there are actually two lists,
neither of which are read by NVDA. I can see what is in them, but
using NVDA I don't know what they are. I can't remember what System
Access reads for the first one if it is empty, but if there are
elements in it and a length is available, it actually reads the
length. When tabbing, System Access also reads that the second list is
the upcoming events list. Can a change be made in NVDA so that it
reads these things?
Bob







Re: anyone willing to look into NVDA and Zara Radio?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Have you contacted the developer and shown them via video if possible what is and is not accessible? this would be a good start if you did not do this already.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 24 Dec 2020, at 16:00, Bob Cavanaugh wrote:

Hi all,
Can anyone look into NVDA with Zara Radio? They have a paid version
and a free version, which is the one I have. There are three things
I'd like taken a look at:
1. Apparently, there are buttons at the bottom of the window for
scheduling events, adding jingles, changing the playlist mode, and a
couple other things I can't remember at the moment, but there seems to
be no way to access them with conventional navigation methods. Can
anyone try to use object navigation to try and access these buttons
and then walk me through how to do it?
2. When playing and the Zara window has focus, NVDA speaks an endless
series of percentages. Can a change be made so that these aren't
spoken?
3. When working with the playlist, there are actually two lists,
neither of which are read by NVDA. I can see what is in them, but
using NVDA I don't know what they are. I can't remember what System
Access reads for the first one if it is empty, but if there are
elements in it and a length is available, it actually reads the
length. When tabbing, System Access also reads that the second list is
the upcoming events list. Can a change be made in NVDA so that it
reads these things?
Bob


anyone willing to look into NVDA and Zara Radio?

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

Hi all,
Can anyone look into NVDA with Zara Radio? They have a paid version
and a free version, which is the one I have. There are three things
I'd like taken a look at:
1. Apparently, there are buttons at the bottom of the window for
scheduling events, adding jingles, changing the playlist mode, and a
couple other things I can't remember at the moment, but there seems to
be no way to access them with conventional navigation methods. Can
anyone try to use object navigation to try and access these buttons
and then walk me through how to do it?
2. When playing and the Zara window has focus, NVDA speaks an endless
series of percentages. Can a change be made so that these aren't
spoken?
3. When working with the playlist, there are actually two lists,
neither of which are read by NVDA. I can see what is in them, but
using NVDA I don't know what they are. I can't remember what System
Access reads for the first one if it is empty, but if there are
elements in it and a length is available, it actually reads the
length. When tabbing, System Access also reads that the second list is
the upcoming events list. Can a change be made in NVDA so that it
reads these things?
Bob


Re: Is there any advantage for NVDA use in updating MS Office from 2010 to 2019?

Ian Blackburn
 

Although office 2010 is out of support it’s still receives security updates mine did the other day


On 25 Dec 2020, at 1:17 am, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Milton,

          I cannot say, precisely, whether there is any advantage in regard to NVDA specifically in ditching Office 2010, but I can say that you should ditch it, anyway.  It is officially out of support now, and was getting "very creaky" for several years prior to that.  I went from Office 2010 to Office 2016.

         That being said, there are free options other than Office that are very accessible, as there are for email clients.  LibreOffice and SoftMaker Office Free (provided you choose the "classic menus" interface - NOT the ribbons interface - when you first try to use any one of its three programs) are both accessible and both can handle MS-Office format documents and both can, if you configure them that way, save the documents they create in the same file formats used by MS-Office.  Thunderbird is an accessible email client and I think that eM Client has come a long way, too, though I don't know if it's yet 100% accessible in every aspect.

           If money is an issue, I encourage people to make the transition to an alternative office suite and email client.  And for the record, and this is just my opinion, if you are currently an Outlook user I doubt very seriously as to whether you'd find the Win10 Mail App an acceptable alternative.  I hate it, and it's because it is an extremely feature light email client, which is fine if you're not used to a feature rich one, but likely to be disappointing if you are and you use a lot of the features of your current email client.
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Re: Looking for a NVDA Add-on to have this funcion

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

I've not tried this myself, but wouldn't this be possible using review cursor? How it would work, you'd put the review cursor on the control you'd like to monitor, then turn off the review cursor moving due to caret movement, then turn off the navigator object moving due to focus changes (NVDA+6 and NVDA+7 respectively). Now, you would be able to, say, use Numpad 8 to review the text of the navigator object that you have left the review cursor on, while you go about your business doing other things.

Sounds a little complicated, I know, but it's worth a shot.


Re: Is there any advantage for NVDA use in updating MS Office from 2010 to 2019?

 

Milton,

          I cannot say, precisely, whether there is any advantage in regard to NVDA specifically in ditching Office 2010, but I can say that you should ditch it, anyway.  It is officially out of support now, and was getting "very creaky" for several years prior to that.  I went from Office 2010 to Office 2016.

         That being said, there are free options other than Office that are very accessible, as there are for email clients.  LibreOffice and SoftMaker Office Free (provided you choose the "classic menus" interface - NOT the ribbons interface - when you first try to use any one of its three programs) are both accessible and both can handle MS-Office format documents and both can, if you configure them that way, save the documents they create in the same file formats used by MS-Office.  Thunderbird is an accessible email client and I think that eM Client has come a long way, too, though I don't know if it's yet 100% accessible in every aspect.

           If money is an issue, I encourage people to make the transition to an alternative office suite and email client.  And for the record, and this is just my opinion, if you are currently an Outlook user I doubt very seriously as to whether you'd find the Win10 Mail App an acceptable alternative.  I hate it, and it's because it is an extremely feature light email client, which is fine if you're not used to a feature rich one, but likely to be disappointing if you are and you use a lot of the features of your current email client.
--

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[Regarding the Supreme Court refusing to hear the case brought by Texas to overturn the votes certified by 4 states:Pleased with the SCOTUS ruling, but also immediately slightly terrified of where this crazy train goes next.  We should know by now there’s a bottomless supply of crazy.

        ~ Brendan Buck, former adviser to Speakers of the House Paul Ryan and John Boehner 

 


Re: Is there any advantage for NVDA use in updating MS Office from 2010 to 2019?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Milton,


I think NVDA will work well with outlook 2019. The mail app does work pretty well wityh NVDA. Thunderbird is really good too. That's what I'm using.


Hope this helps somewhat.


Rosemarie

On 12/24/2020 9:09 AM, Milton Charlton wrote:
I just started to try NVDA to read email in MS Office Outlook 2010 desktop  and to read documents in MS Word 2010.  Is there any known advantage for use of NVDA in updating Office 2010 to Office 2019 desktop version?
I have not tried many commands yet.
Does the Windows 10 built-in email program work well with NVDA? It is a lot cheaper to buy desktop Office 2019 without Outlook.
I am running out of time vision-wise and need to get my system working as well as possible soon.
My goal is a completely hands-off computer using MS Speech Recognition and NVDA.  I hope to be able to assist others I know .
My computer: i7 3.4 GHz, 16 Gb RAM, Windows 10 up to date.
Thanks





Is there any advantage for NVDA use in updating MS Office from 2010 to 2019?

Milton Charlton
 

I just started to try NVDA to read email in MS Office Outlook 2010 desktop  and to read documents in MS Word 2010.  Is there any known advantage for use of NVDA in updating Office 2010 to Office 2019 desktop version?
I have not tried many commands yet.
Does the Windows 10 built-in email program work well with NVDA? It is a lot cheaper to buy desktop Office 2019 without Outlook.
I am running out of time vision-wise and need to get my system working as well as possible soon.
My goal is a completely hands-off computer using MS Speech Recognition and NVDA.  I hope to be able to assist others I know .
My computer: i7 3.4 GHz, 16 Gb RAM, Windows 10 up to date.
Thanks


Re: NVDA configuration for either Teraterm or SecureCRT?

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Thanks for your reply. I've done that. The issue seems to come when
I'm reviewing the screen sometimes reviewing gets for lack of a better
word stuck, either goes to the bottom of the screen or when I make a
change to a dialog again reverts to the bottom of the screen rather
than holding my current line.

Thanks.
Dave.

On 12/24/20, Richard Bartholomew <rlbart53@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,

I use it with SecureCRT and a Braille display and the only specific change I
can remember doing is to make sure that the accessibility cursor tracking
option is enabled within SecureCRT's own global options.

Cheers
Richard Bartholomew


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: 24 December 2020 00:13
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA configuration for either Teraterm or SecureCRT?

Hello,

Is anyone using NVDA with either Teraterm or SecureCRT to connect to a
remote Unix/Linux system? If so, do you have a configuration that allows
cursor tracking and a working setup?

Thanks.
Dave.












Re: NVDA configuration for either Teraterm or SecureCRT?

Richard Bartholomew
 

Hi,

I use it with SecureCRT and a Braille display and the only specific change I can remember doing is to make sure that the accessibility cursor tracking option is enabled within SecureCRT's own global options.

Cheers
Richard Bartholomew

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Mehler
Sent: 24 December 2020 00:13
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA configuration for either Teraterm or SecureCRT?

Hello,

Is anyone using NVDA with either Teraterm or SecureCRT to connect to a remote Unix/Linux system? If so, do you have a configuration that allows cursor tracking and a working setup?

Thanks.
Dave.


Re: Looking for newest vocalizer driver

Rui Fontes
 

No, that is still the last version...


I have already performed some tests and it seems the problem is with the language used in NVDA interface...


Going to investigate further, since sayAll and sayLine are not treated in exactly the same way...


Rui Fontes

Tiflotecnia, Lda.





Às 14:30 de 24/12/2020, Socheat Muth escreveu:

@Rui, is the driver being updated? Saw 3.1.2 has been out for a long time now.

On 12/24/2020 9:22 PM, mohammad suliman wrote:
Hello,
I have experienced a similar bug with the latest driver. Note also that previous versions doesn't havthis issue as has been stated.
Thanks

On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 21:17 <darkmad88@...> wrote:
Hello!
Yes, i use russian+english language pair, so they have different character sets, latin and cyrillic.For example, you can try to read any russian site, 3dnews.ru, yandex.ru and so on. Or you can  set some of russian voices as default, correctly configure auto lang switching, and then type some english text in notepad. Then, if you will move between strings of entered text using arrows, NVDA will use english voice, previously selected for english language in auto lang switching configuration dialog, but if you'll use "say all", it will read this text with russian default voice. I also need to say, that in older versions of driver(3.0.x), there was no same issue and auto lang switching works fine everywhere, including "Say all".
I have very beginner's skills in programming, but tried to investigate what happens when i use "Say all". I found patchedSpeak function in _init.py file, located in Vocalizer driver folder and added "tones.beep(100, 100)" in it, and also "import tones" at the beginning of this file. I found that in version 3.1.2 there is no call to this function when using "Say all" (no beep occurs), and in version 3.0.8, when i use "say all", a beep occurs indicating that function patchedSpeak is called. Maybe, this information will be useful for you.


Re: Looking for newest vocalizer driver

Socheat
 

@Rui, is the driver being updated? Saw 3.1.2 has been out for a long time now.

On 12/24/2020 9:22 PM, mohammad suliman wrote:
Hello,
I have experienced a similar bug with the latest driver. Note also that previous versions doesn't havthis issue as has been stated.
Thanks

On Wed, 23 Dec 2020 at 21:17 <darkmad88@...> wrote:
Hello!
Yes, i use russian+english language pair, so they have different character sets, latin and cyrillic.For example, you can try to read any russian site, 3dnews.ru, yandex.ru and so on. Or you can  set some of russian voices as default, correctly configure auto lang switching, and then type some english text in notepad. Then, if you will move between strings of entered text using arrows, NVDA will use english voice, previously selected for english language in auto lang switching configuration dialog, but if you'll use "say all", it will read this text with russian default voice. I also need to say, that in older versions of driver(3.0.x), there was no same issue and auto lang switching works fine everywhere, including "Say all".
I have very beginner's skills in programming, but tried to investigate what happens when i use "Say all". I found patchedSpeak function in _init.py file, located in Vocalizer driver folder and added "tones.beep(100, 100)" in it, and also "import tones" at the beginning of this file. I found that in version 3.1.2 there is no call to this function when using "Say all" (no beep occurs), and in version 3.0.8, when i use "say all", a beep occurs indicating that function patchedSpeak is called. Maybe, this information will be useful for you.

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