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Re: Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

David Griffith
 

Thanks but even the ESR Portable version is now warning that Accessibility Features have been disabled wen I install it.

I understand the question somebody else posted last week about how could portable apps could now be made accessible.

It does look like Mozilla has pulled accessibility support on all it current portable downloads.

After installation I can access the menus and have been through all the options but can find no way to make even this ESR version accessible.

I can open a web page such as www.bbc.co.uk  using control L and the title of the window will say BBC home but there is no way to ;read any of the content in the resulting page or navigate using tab, or element shortcuts H for heading etc.

I got similarly zero feedback when I opened www.google.co.uk.

Firefox ESR and NVDA announces Google home but it is impossible to navigate to or read any of the web page or edit fields with NVDA.

NVDA does not even recognise the BBC Home page as a web page in this ESR portable version , if I try insert F7 for Elements list all that comes up is a message from Firefox asking me if I want caret browsing enabled.

For reference NVDA is still working normally with installed versions  of Waterfox and Chrome and Edge and even Internet Explorer.

I am on Windows 10 latest release and NVDA 2018.1

David Griffith

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My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
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From: Gene
Sent: 14 March 2018 22:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

You can download Firefox portable versions from portableapps.com

 

You will see a link to the ESR version on that page.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:14 PM

Subject: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

 

Following suggestions on this list to use portable versions of Firefox, potentially with Webvisum, I downloaded and installed first of all the portable versions of Firefox 52 and then Firefox 51.

It was surprising that even for Portable versions there was an installation process though the result  was a  folder labelled Firefox Portable with a portable executable in it.

I was more surprised after both installs that a message came up saying that accessibility features had been disable , despite these being older versions  of Firefox.

Sure enough  after running the programs I found these installs unusable both with NVDA and Jaws 2018.

I downloaded these portable versions of Firefox from the Mozilla site but it appears that they are not genuine older versions as they all appear to have the accessibility problem.

Is there an alternative source of portable versions  that are accessible?

David Griffith

 

How have people got  around this?

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

 


Re: Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

Don H
 

Don't know how powerful the Malicious Software Removal Tool is but you can always run it. At the run command type mrt and press enter then follow the prompts.

On 3/14/2018 5:41 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Hi all,
somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or bank account!)
Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other tools people had been able to use with NVDA.
Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is not affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current Firefox version I was using, but that just played the same malware. Adwcleaner did detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.
any suggestions would be very welcome :)
Giles


Re: Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

Gene
 

You can download Firefox portable versions from portableapps.com
 
You will see a link to the ESR version on that page.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 5:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

Following suggestions on this list to use portable versions of Firefox, potentially with Webvisum, I downloaded and installed first of all the portable versions of Firefox 52 and then Firefox 51.

It was surprising that even for Portable versions there was an installation process though the result  was a  folder labelled Firefox Portable with a portable executable in it.

I was more surprised after both installs that a message came up saying that accessibility features had been disable , despite these being older versions  of Firefox.

Sure enough  after running the programs I found these installs unusable both with NVDA and Jaws 2018.

I downloaded these portable versions of Firefox from the Mozilla site but it appears that they are not genuine older versions as they all appear to have the accessibility problem.

Is there an alternative source of portable versions  that are accessible?

David Griffith

 

How have people got  around this?

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 


Adware / Malware removers that are accessible with NVDA

Giles Turnbull
 

Hi all,

somehow today I've picked up the adware that plays an audio warning that the computer mayh be infected with viruses and to contact Microsoft technical support on 'this number' for somebody who will help clean your computer (or bank account!)

Anyway, I ran adwcleaner and that didn't help so I wondered what other tools people had been able to use with NVDA.

Curiously this adware is only affecting Firefox ... Internet Explorer is not affected. I tried installing an earlier version over the current Firefox version I was using, but that just played the same malware. Adwcleaner did detect and remove some pup files but again to no effect.

any suggestions would be very welcome :)

Giles


Re: Other tool for solving the Verification Image

Giles Turnbull
 

The only Captcha tool I ever used was included with an early Twitter client for the blind, called Qwitter. Sadly that vanished and there was no equivalent when Qwitter evolved into The Qube. But what I do use now is the iPhone and Android app Be My Eyes. It calls a human volunteer who uses the rear camera on the phone to tell you whatever you want ... such as the colour of a tshirt or what a Captcha image says. I've used Be My Eyes twice today to assist when Windows was doing an update and I didn't hear anything further (I realise that I'd somehow turned the NVDA setting to start automatically when logged in to Windows off). Obviously common sense applies - not having any files open with login details to any accounts visible, but you'd get an answer to your random letters test within the minute! ... And BME is free to install and use :) 


Problem with old versions of Portable firefox

David Griffith
 

Following suggestions on this list to use portable versions of Firefox, potentially with Webvisum, I downloaded and installed first of all the portable versions of Firefox 52 and then Firefox 51.

It was surprising that even for Portable versions there was an installation process though the result  was a  folder labelled Firefox Portable with a portable executable in it.

I was more surprised after both installs that a message came up saying that accessibility features had been disable , despite these being older versions  of Firefox.

Sure enough  after running the programs I found these installs unusable both with NVDA and Jaws 2018.

I downloaded these portable versions of Firefox from the Mozilla site but it appears that they are not genuine older versions as they all appear to have the accessibility problem.

Is there an alternative source of portable versions  that are accessible?

David Griffith

 

How have people got  around this?

 

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 


Re: Focused mode

Chris
 

If you don’t want focus mode then turn off automatic focus mode under browse mode settings in NVDA

That will fix it 😃

 

 


Re: Focused mode

Jonathan COHN
 

I tested this out briefly on my Windows 7 machine with NVDA 2018.1

 

  1. Open Firefox 59  to www.google.com
  2. 2turned off focus mode.
  3. Opened up Outlook 365.
  4. Enabled sleep mode with nvda-shift-s
  5. Quit outlook  with alt-f4

At this point my firefox returned to focus and browse mode was still enabled.

 

So, sorry I can’t reproduce with the guidance provided.

 

Best Wishes,

 

Jonathan

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Gene <gsasner@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 at 4:34 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focused mode

 


Re: Focused mode

Caleb Neyenhuis
 

Nvda 18.1


Re: Focused mode

Caleb Neyenhuis
 

Yes it happens on audeo games which is what i play


Re: Focused mode

Gene
 

But most programs don't use browse mode and forms mode.  Are you saying that if you are in Wordpad, for example, this happens?  If you are in a browser or an e-mail program, reading mail as HTML, or in Adobe Reader, I can see that this might happen.  But are you saying it happens in other programs that don't use browse and forms mode?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focused mode

Its pritty much every program i leave if i leave sleep mode on while leaving the program



Re: Focused mode

Gene
 

Also, what program are you entering and leaving sleep mode in and what version of NVDA are you using?  On further thought, you may be saying you are stuck in forms mode.  That may be the problem that was discussed here perhaps two or three months ago where, if you shut down NVDA while a browser is opened, then run it again, you will be stuck in forms mode unless you close and open the browser again.  My recollection is that this problem was corrected in a recent update of NVDA.

From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focused mode

Exit sleep mode in what program?  Are you describing what happens when you use sleep in a browser and turn it off when in the browser?  I don't know why that is but just pressing escape should return you to browse mode.  I didn't understand exactly what you were asking in your first question but if escape works, it's probably the easiest way to deal with the problem.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focused mode

I am enabling sleep mode on application and when I exit the application focus mode turns on without me touching



Re: Focused mode

Caleb Neyenhuis
 

Its pritty much every program i leave if i leave sleep mode on while leaving the program


Re: Focused mode

Gene
 

Exit sleep mode in what program?  Are you describing what happens when you use sleep in a browser and turn it off when in the browser?  I don't know why that is but just pressing escape should return you to browse mode.  I didn't understand exactly what you were asking in your first question but if escape works, it's probably the easiest way to deal with the problem.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 14, 2018 3:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Focused mode

I am enabling sleep mode on application and when I exit the application focus mode turns on without me touching



Re: firefox 59 64 bit

Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
 

Fire fox is a lot faster than 57 was.  Just give it a try and I bet you like a lot.


On 3/14/2018 4:15 PM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

Actually its a lot faster than the old esr you like so much

 

 

From: Felix G.
Sent: 14 March 2018 20:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox 59 64 bit

 

Hi!

If you can live with a slight speed penalty compared to the ESR, then yes, it's the way to go. It's just been officially released and shouldn't give you much trouble.

Greetings,

Felix

 

Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> schrieb am Mi., 14. März 2018 um 19:18 Uhr:

Best version of firefox so far 😃

 

 

 

From: Don H
Sent: 14 March 2018 18:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] firefox 59 64 bit

 

My firefox just updated itself to version 59 64 bit.  I am running NVDA

2018-1 on my Win10 64 bit laptop.  Is this best firefox to be using with

NVDA?  Are there any firefox settings that should be changed to work

best with NVDA 2018-1?

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 



Re: Focused mode

Caleb Neyenhuis
 

I am enabling sleep mode on application and when I exit the application focus mode turns on without me touching


Re: firefox 59 64 bit

Chris
 

Actually its a lot faster than the old esr you like so much

 

 

From: Felix G.
Sent: 14 March 2018 20:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] firefox 59 64 bit

 

Hi!

If you can live with a slight speed penalty compared to the ESR, then yes, it's the way to go. It's just been officially released and shouldn't give you much trouble.

Greetings,

Felix

 

Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> schrieb am Mi., 14. März 2018 um 19:18 Uhr:

Best version of firefox so far 😃

 

 

 

From: Don H
Sent: 14 March 2018 18:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] firefox 59 64 bit

 

My firefox just updated itself to version 59 64 bit.  I am running NVDA

2018-1 on my Win10 64 bit laptop.  Is this best firefox to be using with

NVDA?  Are there any firefox settings that should be changed to work

best with NVDA 2018-1?

Thanks

 

 

 

 

 


Re: firefox 59 64 bit

Felix G.
 

Hi!
If you can live with a slight speed penalty compared to the ESR, then yes, it's the way to go. It's just been officially released and shouldn't give you much trouble.
Greetings,
Felix

Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley=btinternet.com@groups.io> schrieb am Mi., 14. März 2018 um 19:18 Uhr:

Best version of firefox so far 😃

 

 

 

From: Don H
Sent: 14 March 2018 18:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] firefox 59 64 bit

 

My firefox just updated itself to version 59 64 bit.  I am running NVDA

2018-1 on my Win10 64 bit laptop.  Is this best firefox to be using with

NVDA?  Are there any firefox settings that should be changed to work

best with NVDA 2018-1?

Thanks

 

 

 

 


Re: firefox 59 64 bit

Chris
 

Best version of firefox so far 😃

 

 

 

From: Don H
Sent: 14 March 2018 18:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] firefox 59 64 bit

 

My firefox just updated itself to version 59 64 bit.  I am running NVDA

2018-1 on my Win10 64 bit laptop.  Is this best firefox to be using with

NVDA?  Are there any firefox settings that should be changed to work

best with NVDA 2018-1?

Thanks

 

 

 

 


firefox 59 64 bit

Don H
 

My firefox just updated itself to version 59 64 bit. I am running NVDA 2018-1 on my Win10 64 bit laptop. Is this best firefox to be using with NVDA? Are there any firefox settings that should be changed to work best with NVDA 2018-1?
Thanks