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Re: Speech crackling/breaking up in latest NVDA

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

Just checked the addons page and didn't see it there. I still don't like the sound of an addon with that name.

On 6/08/2020 3:30 pm, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
I don't want my speech silenced!

On 6/08/2020 2:58 pm, Curtis Delzer wrote:
download silencio,

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@calweb.com

On 8/5/2020 9:49 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
So I just finally decided to brave the Python 3 hurdle, and updated from 2019.2.1 to 2020.2. I've updated the addons I could and wanted to keep, and they're both working fine.


I am, however, having an odd little issue with the synth's speech. I'm using ESpeak NG, and the latest NVDA. I'm on Windows 10.

My issue is that occasionally, most often at the ends of sentences and on the word image in the context of that being an object, the speech will break up slightly, for a brief but noticeable fraction of a second. It happens irregularly, and I don't know what to do to fix it. I asked on a Discord server I'm a member of, and someone there told me to switch audio output from Microsoft Sound Mapper to my speakers/headphones. I did this, but it hasn't helped.


I've also noticed a slight but noticeable lag when deleting characters, and in single-letter navigation. In the latter, It takes most of a second before NVDA announces the item the cursor has moved to after the letter was pressed.


Any help regarding these issues would be sincerely appreciated.




Re: Speech crackling/breaking up in latest NVDA

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

I don't want my speech silenced!

On 6/08/2020 2:58 pm, Curtis Delzer wrote:
download silencio,

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@calweb.com

On 8/5/2020 9:49 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
So I just finally decided to brave the Python 3 hurdle, and updated from 2019.2.1 to 2020.2. I've updated the addons I could and wanted to keep, and they're both working fine.


I am, however, having an odd little issue with the synth's speech. I'm using ESpeak NG, and the latest NVDA. I'm on Windows 10.

My issue is that occasionally, most often at the ends of sentences and on the word image in the context of that being an object, the speech will break up slightly, for a brief but noticeable fraction of a second. It happens irregularly, and I don't know what to do to fix it. I asked on a Discord server I'm a member of, and someone there told me to switch audio output from Microsoft Sound Mapper to my speakers/headphones. I did this, but it hasn't helped.


I've also noticed a slight but noticeable lag when deleting characters, and in single-letter navigation. In the latter, It takes most of a second before NVDA announces the item the cursor has moved to after the letter was pressed.


Any help regarding these issues would be sincerely appreciated.



Re: Speech crackling/breaking up in latest NVDA

Tyler Spivey
 

This is a known problem in my circle across synths.
I suspect this is due to speech refactor. Regardless, it would be
helpful if you could get a sentence or something where this occurs,
then report an issue if you can get it to happen reliably. This is the
hard part.
eSpeak is one of the core drivers, so NV Access might consider the issue
as worth looking into if reported against that.

On 8/5/2020 9:49 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
So I just finally decided to brave the Python 3 hurdle, and updated from
2019.2.1 to 2020.2. I've updated the addons I could and wanted to keep,
and they're both working fine.


I am, however, having an odd little issue with the synth's speech. I'm
using ESpeak NG, and the latest NVDA. I'm on Windows 10.

My issue is that occasionally, most often at the ends of sentences and
on the word image in the context of that being an object, the speech
will break up slightly, for a brief but noticeable fraction of a second.
It happens irregularly, and I don't know what to do to fix it. I asked
on a Discord server I'm a member of, and someone there told me to switch
audio output from Microsoft Sound Mapper to my speakers/headphones. I
did this, but it hasn't helped.


I've also noticed a slight but noticeable lag when deleting characters,
and in single-letter navigation. In the latter, It takes most of a
second before NVDA announces the item the cursor has moved to after the
letter was pressed.


Any help regarding these issues would be sincerely appreciated.




Re: Speech crackling/breaking up in latest NVDA

Curtis Delzer
 

download silencio,

Curtis Delzer
HS
K 6 V F O
Rialto, CA

curtis@calweb.com

On 8/5/2020 9:49 PM, Sharni-Lee Ward wrote:
So I just finally decided to brave the Python 3 hurdle, and updated from 2019.2.1 to 2020.2. I've updated the addons I could and wanted to keep, and they're both working fine.
I am, however, having an odd little issue with the synth's speech. I'm using ESpeak NG, and the latest NVDA. I'm on Windows 10.
My issue is that occasionally, most often at the ends of sentences and on the word image in the context of that being an object, the speech will break up slightly, for a brief but noticeable fraction of a second. It happens irregularly, and I don't know what to do to fix it. I asked on a Discord server I'm a member of, and someone there told me to switch audio output from Microsoft Sound Mapper to my speakers/headphones. I did this, but it hasn't helped.
I've also noticed a slight but noticeable lag when deleting characters, and in single-letter navigation. In the latter, It takes most of a second before NVDA announces the item the cursor has moved to after the letter was pressed.
Any help regarding these issues would be sincerely appreciated.


Speech crackling/breaking up in latest NVDA

Sharni-Lee Ward
 

So I just finally decided to brave the Python 3 hurdle, and updated from 2019.2.1 to 2020.2. I've updated the addons I could and wanted to keep, and they're both working fine.


I am, however, having an odd little issue with the synth's speech. I'm using ESpeak NG, and the latest NVDA. I'm on Windows 10.

My issue is that occasionally, most often at the ends of sentences and on the word image in the context of that being an object, the speech will break up slightly, for a brief but noticeable fraction of a second. It happens irregularly, and I don't know what to do to fix it. I asked on a Discord server I'm a member of, and someone there told me to switch audio output from Microsoft Sound Mapper to my speakers/headphones. I did this, but it hasn't helped.


I've also noticed a slight but noticeable lag when deleting characters, and in single-letter navigation. In the latter, It takes most of a second before NVDA announces the item the cursor has moved to after the letter was pressed.


Any help regarding these issues would be sincerely appreciated.


Idea for an Addon

Vaibhav Bhandari
 

Hi all,
So recently I was thinking like many people out their, whenever they
read some book/novel/any other thing, they tend to mark something
which they feel is important. Now I was wondering if such an addon for
NVDA could be developed through which it would jump from the first
bold text to the next. Is their already such an addon or can it be
developed?

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Thanks/regards: Vaibhav Bhandari


Re: NVDA and MathML content, plus Hi from Jay at AC

rowen brian <manchen0528@...>
 

It is recommended that you install the Access8Math Addon:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/access8math.zh_CN.html


Re: Braille doesn't work in Google Docs

Rob Hudson
 

If you press alt+shift+A to go into the menus, and find accessibility, there is a "enable braille support" checkbox.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2020 10:47:28 -0700
Subject: Re: [nvda] Braille doesn't work in Google Docs

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 01:06 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:


There was a setting i missed in the docs interface. Oops.
-
Would you mind sharing which one? Someone else is virtually certain to miss the same thing later, and having it on record in the archive can prove most helpful.

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Re: Braille doesn't work in Google Docs

 

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 01:06 PM, Rob Hudson wrote:
There was a setting i missed in the docs interface. Oops.
-
Would you mind sharing which one?   Someone else is virtually certain to miss the same thing later, and having it on record in the archive can prove most helpful.
 
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    ~ Ruth Marcus,  November 10, 2017, in Washington Post article, Bannon is right: It’s no coincidence The Post broke the Moore story

 

 


Re: Braille doesn't work in Google Docs

Rob Hudson
 

Never mind. There was a setting i missed in the docs interface. Oops.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Rob Hudson" <rob_hudson3182@opopanax.net>
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Date: Wed, 05 Aug 2020 11:40:01 -0500
Subject: [nvda] Braille doesn't work in Google Docs

Using NVDA 2020.2 and Google Chrome Version 86.0.4221.0 (Official Build) canary (64-bit) on windows 10
I press alt+ctrl+z to enable screen reader mode. However I get no braille output. Is this a known bug, or did I miss a step somewhere.




Re: Google Sheets

CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...>
 

Hello.

You can read this guide:

https://support.google.com/docs/answer/1632199

Regards.

El 5/8/2020 a las 11:13, Rob Hudson escribió:
Any tips on using Google Sheets with NVDA? I understand the platform has made some great strides in A11y.
Thanks.


Braille doesn't work in Google Docs

Rob Hudson
 

Using NVDA 2020.2 and Google Chrome Version 86.0.4221.0 (Official Build) canary (64-bit) on windows 10
I press alt+ctrl+z to enable screen reader mode. However I get no braille output. Is this a known bug, or did I miss a step somewhere.


Google Sheets

Rob Hudson
 

Any tips on using Google Sheets with NVDA? I understand the platform has made some great strides in A11y.
Thanks.


Re: NVDA in windows terminal on older Win 10 versions

Christian Schoepplein
 

Hi _Brian,

Am 04.08.2020 um 16:46 schrieb Brian Vogel:
             Have you checked with your organization as to when they will be applying whatever Feature Update they intend to apply next? Version 1809 is now very old, and is going out of support later this year or May of next for extended support for Enterprise and Educational editions, and I cannot imagine the IT department won't be updating to something significantly more recent.
The IT department is aware of my problems with the older windows versions, but that will not speed up theire update politic.

We've been migrated from Windows 7 to Windows 10 in December last year, just to give you an idea how things are working here :-).

But OK, I'll check whats possible. Maybe I can get a special system with a newer Windows when things really do not work.
Cheers,

Schoepp


Re: NVDA in windows terminal on older Win 10 versions

Christian Schoepplein
 

Sorry, upgrading only my system to the newest Windows version will not work due to security policies, software distribution processes and so on. Also bringing my own device with a self installed environment will be not allowed.

Everything that has no official process or is not officialy allowed by the IT security department is not possible novadays, at least not in companies who think that they had to work and function in ITIL or similar process models. No chance to get out of such process models, at least it is very difficult.

Ciao,

Schoepp



Am 04.08.2020 um 22:00 schrieb Shaun Everiss:

Well why don't you ask your it people to upgrade you to 2004, I am sure others will be getting the next version upgrade.
On 4/08/2020 11:23 pm, Christian Schoepplein wrote:
Hi,

I have to use Windows 10 version 1809 on my laptop for my job. With this version I have problems to use the windows terminal. I can't e.g. not read file listings.

On my private laptop with Windows 10 version 2004 installed I do not have those problems.

On both systems the current stable version of NVDA is installed, NVDA 2020.2.

Is it possible to improve the support of windows text console on my old system on my working laptop somehow? I don't know when a newer version of Windows 10 will be rolled out, so a workaround for Windows 1809 would be great.

Cheers and thanks for any hint,

  Schoepp



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Re: New Book Available on Browsing the Web with Screen Reader Programs

David Kingsbury
 

Hi Zahra

 

Yes, you can email me at david.kingsbury@....

 

Regards,

David

 


Re: Grammarly and NVDA

Fawaz Abdul rahman
 

Grammarly used to work for me with firefox and NVDA (using the cursor) with most fields. Not sure about word, never tried.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Wednesday, August 5, 2020 10:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Grammarly and NVDA

 

As others have said, Grammarly is inaccessible with the keyboard and with screenreaders.  For a sighted mouse user, it works great, it highlights grammatical errors in many places, including forms you are filling in on the web.  A similar service, ProWritingAid, has a screen reader accessible interface.  It's not free, but worth considering if you're after a full featured grammar checker: https://prowritingaid.com/en/Analysis/Editor?screenReaderFriendly=true

 

On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 3:26 AM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

It is completely inaccessible with any screen reader. Your best option would be to change the grammar checker in MS Word to also check for styles, not just grammar. That's the only accessible avenue for grammar checking because all other third party solutions are not screen reader friendly.


 

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Re: NVDA and MathML content, plus Hi from Jay at AC

Mallard
 

Hello,


I would suggest to look into the axcessibility package developed by the Sergio Polin Laboratory of the University of Tutin, Italy.


If I can contact you off-list, I can try and provide more info.

I'm only beginning to look into it too, to help a friend with high school math.


That works with Latex though.


If that suits you, then let me know and we can take this discussion off-list.


Ciao, take care and stay safe,
Ollie

On 04/08/2020 18:04, Jason Timms wrote:

Hi

My name is Jay Timms,

Wanted to say hi before blasting some questions to the group. Go gentle I am new here.

I am looking for advice on MathML and NVDA. I am working with a student who needs to access Math.

I have material encoded in MathML, have connected to try to load MathPlayer on his computer. He has the latest version of NVDA and Windows 10. I have reinstalled his Office to ensure it is 32 bit.

His material is in MS Word and has been encoded by a Professional service provider known for their ability to encode in MathML.

We can’t seem to get NVDA to speak the content in the book?

Any thoughts?

Also, I have not worked with someone using MathML before, are there other software solutions or format choices that may work better. The student is new to NVDA and MathML so switching file format is not likely an issue as we are starting from the beginning anyway?

Thanks,,

Jay @ AC


Re: Grammarly and NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

As others have said, Grammarly is inaccessible with the keyboard and with screenreaders.  For a sighted mouse user, it works great, it highlights grammatical errors in many places, including forms you are filling in on the web.  A similar service, ProWritingAid, has a screen reader accessible interface.  It's not free, but worth considering if you're after a full featured grammar checker: https://prowritingaid.com/en/Analysis/Editor?screenReaderFriendly=true


On Wed, Aug 5, 2020 at 3:26 AM Robert Kingett <kingettr@...> wrote:

It is completely inaccessible with any screen reader. Your best option would be to change the grammar checker in MS Word to also check for styles, not just grammar. That's the only accessible avenue for grammar checking because all other third party solutions are not screen reader friendly.



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Re: NVDA 2020.2 and Word Track Changes

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Sandra,

GitHub is not difficult to use.  You do need to create an account, but that simply requires and email address and password, as most sites do these days.

As it happens though, this isn't actually a new bug, and there is an issue for it: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7342  

Kind regards

Quentin.


On Tue, Aug 4, 2020 at 3:06 AM Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...> wrote:
Hi Sarah,


No, I didn't file this on gidhub, I'm not familiar with the site.

Regards


Sandra



Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 03.08.2020 um 18:38 schrieb Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...>:



Did you bug this on the github page? If so can you provide the link?

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On 3 Aug 2020, at 9:34, Sandra Pilz wrote:

Hi Sylvie,

Thank you for trying it. Probably we can assume that it's a new bug in the current version of NVDA. 

Thanks for confirmming. 

Regards

Sandra


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Am 03.08.2020 um 16:55 schrieb Sylvie Duchateau <sduchateau@...>:



Hello Sandra and all,

I use Office 365 in French with NVDA 2020.2.

I tested what you describe on a word document with track changes enabled.

I noticed the same as you mentioned:

While typing a to jump to the next change, everything is ok.

However, going backwards with shift+a jumps to the first change and does not go to all others.

I tested the same document with nvda 2019.2 and 2019.3, and the shortcut works properly.

I can’t explain what the problem is.

Best

Sylvie

De : nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> De la part de Sandra Pilz via groups.io
Envoyé : lundi 3 août 2020 14:27
À : nvda@nvda.groups.io
Objet : [nvda] NVDA 2020.2 and Word Track Changes

 

Hi,

 

I am using the current version of NVDA, 2020.2. When I am in a word document with track changes enabled, I can go to reading mode and press a to go to the next change and again to the next change and so on. However, I can't move to the previous change. When I press shift+a, NVDA will tell me no changes were found, although it took me through them when I went forward using just a.

 

I am using Office 365. Also, I'm using a German version of NVDA, so I don't know if the key to cycle through changes is different in the English version. However, A is the correct key in my version.

 

Can I do something to solve this, or is this a new bug?

 

 

Regards

 

Sandra

 



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