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Re: Selecting Cells in Table

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Bhavya,

Did this used to work?  I must admit I couldn't remember - I just tried in Word (365) and the current version of Firefox with both NVDA 2019.3.1 and 2019.2.1 and while I can navigate tables with control+alt+arrows, I can't add shift to select cells.  You could create an issue for this.

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 5:08 PM Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Dear all,

The current scenario is that I am on a standard table on a webpage
displayed by Firefox. I am seeking to select multiple cells of a
specific column.
1 Shift+Ctrl+Alt+arrow keys don't produce any effect.
* Shift +Ctrl+arrow keys keep selecting the subsequent cell, i.e. the
next cell in the same row as opposed to the next cell in the column.
I would appreciate any methods or tricks to accomplish what I am trying to do.

Thanks.

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Re: NVDA ebooks: Is there one for Access?

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Ollie,

We don't have one for Access I'm afraid.  I'm working on one for PowerPoint at this stage.  Once that's complete, I'm not sure what topic we'll tackle next, but of course if there is interest in Access, we wouldn't rule it out.  Anecdotally, I've only been asked about Access a few times in recent years so it's not something everyone uses as much as they used to.

If you've got specific things you are having trouble with in Access do let us know and I or someone can have a look into it of course.

Kind regards
Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 8:50 AM Mallard <mallard@...> wrote:
Hello all,


Years ago I bought an ebook to learn to use NVDA with Word.


Is there anything like it for Access?


If not, is there any other material to learn how to use Access with nVDA?


Many thanks in advance.

Ciao,

Ollie






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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response

Jackie
 

The tool I provided does all that.

On 3/9/20, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@...> wrote:
Hi,


Well now this explains plenty, sigh. This is one of the more notorious
AV products and unfortunately not in a good way. The only real way to
uninstall this is to delete the registry key associated with McAfee.
Things may have changed in recent years.   I've successfully done it,
but I don['t recommend that anyone mess around in the registry unless
they are totally sure of what they are doing.


Tony

On 3/9/2020 5:38 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,   I use to go out to fix computers for RNIB,   my heart sinks when
I hear about this Av Product.   if You can get a a refund and get rid
it used to be hard to remove as well. good luck.

On 08/03/2020 23:48, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 05:36 PM, Anna Givens wrote:

    I just bought the subscription for McAfee, so not wanting to take it
    off. Why would I need to?

And if they give you 30 days to turn it back in, my recommendation is
that you do.  Over the last several years there have been multiple,
and sometimes repeated for a given brand, issues with 3rd party
security suites and Windows 10. Windows Defender, as implemented
under Windows 8 and 10, lands in the top tier of security suites
consistently, and is more than just adequate protection.

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arkose labs captcha problems, revisited

Stephen
 

Hi there.
This time, when I go to:
https://www.arkoselabs.com/technology/#ArkoseEnforce
It says there is an audio challenge, but I can't find it anywhere with my old version of firefox.
Is anyone able to test out the web page on current hardware and software to see if the audio challenge can be reached and solved?
Thanks.

Re: NVDA Installation failed

Quentin Christensen
 

We've had a look into this one and it appears the German translators have translated the string for the shortcut key to start NVDA, which actually should not have been translated.  I will chase up with the translators so it can be fixed for 2020.1.

Regards

Quentin

On Fri, Mar 6, 2020 at 8:58 PM Felix G. <constantlyvariable@...> wrote:
Hi,
this one was gone for some time but it has a way of reappearing. If
I'm not mistaken, it's a string which got translated when it shouldn't
have been.
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 6. März 2020 um 08:36 Uhr schrieb Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...>:
>
> Hi Kostadin,
>
> Are you sure it's the same bug? If it was and if it has been there five years, installing NVDA 2019.1 shouldn't have worked either. But I was able to install that version successfully.
>
> Regards
>
>
>
>
> Regard
>
> Sandra
>
> Von meinem iPhone gesendet
>
> Am 06.03.2020 um 07:47 schrieb Kostadin Kolev <k.kolev1985@...>:
>
> 
>
> Hello Quentin,
>
> If I'm not mistaking, this is a known bug in NVDA. I've reported this almost 5 years ago and it still occurs. Here is the bug: NVDA installation may fail with an error if system UI language and language for non-unicode programs don't match · Issue #5166.
>
> ______
> Best wishes,
> Kostadin Kolev
>
> На 6.3.2020 г. в 1:19, Quentin Christensen написа:
>
> Hi Sandra,
>
> Thanks for following up, I appreciate the clarification.
>
> Setting my system language to German, I can replicate this.  We'll look into it.
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 11:10 PM Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Quentin,
>>
>>
>> You wrote:
>>
>> When you originally went to install, did you get the UAC prompt from Windows itself about installing the program?  You get that for any program you install, but sometimes it pops up and doesn't get focus so you aren't alerted to it and even visually it's not obvious.  If you don't answer Yes to the UAC prompt within about 20 seconds, it times out and denies the program from installing.
>>
>>
>> Yes, I did see it, but the UAC prompt isn't the problem, I always answer Yes using the alt Y or in my case alt+j shortcut (German windows), and the installation continues. I don't wait for 20 seconds for something to happen.
>>
>>
>> The only other thing I was thinking was if you had controlled folder access set, it will install NVDA but not create the desktop shortcut.  If that was the issue though, it wouldn't have worked any better with NVDA 2019.1 than 2019.3.
>>
>> No, I don't have controlled folder access set. I checked this when it didn't work, because I knew it could be a problem. No, it's not active.
>>
>>
>> I do think there is a problem with the installation of 2019.3 though, because a lady on the German NVDA list reported the same problem. She's a very competent computer user and I'm sure she, too, knows how to deal with UAC. Maybe it doesn't affect systems where English is the default language... And maybe it wasn't reported much, because many people using NVDA 2019.3 will have updated an older version and won't have encountered this issue, because the shortcut and start menu entries had already been created by a previous installation of an older version of NVDA...
>>
>>
>> I, however, attempted a fresh install on a new machine.
>>
>>
>> Best
>>
>>
>> Sandra
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Quentin.
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 5, 2020 at 2:43 AM Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Felix,
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks for your help. Unfortunately setting the NVDA language to English
>>> didn't help. The failed installation not only faild to create the
>>> desktop shortcut, but also didn't create NVDA entries in the start menu.
>>> I installed NVDA 2019.1 first and then updated to 2019.3.1, that did the
>>> trick.
>>>
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>>
>>> Sandra
>>>
>>> Am 04.03.2020 um 13:22 schrieb Felix G.:
>>> > Hello Sandra,
>>> > the installation failed because NVDA was unable to create its desktop
>>> > shortcut, for reasons I cannot begin to guess. I can think of two
>>> > options:
>>> > 1. Install without creating a desktop shortcut, then create one manually.
>>> > 2. Sometimes, switching the NVDA language to English before installing
>>> > fixes this problem. If you feel comfortable doing this, it may be the
>>> > cleaner option.
>>> > Hope this helps,
>>> > Felix
>>> >
>>> > Am Mi., 4. März 2020 um 14:11 Uhr schrieb Sandra Pilz <sandra914481@...>:
>>> >> Hello,
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm trying to install NVDA on a new machine running Windows 10 pro 1909.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> I'm running  the installation file as administrator. I'm getting the message that installing NVDA has failed.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Please also see the log included below.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Does anyone know what the problem might be and how to solve it??
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Thanks.
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Cheers
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> Sandra
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> INFO - __main__ (13:56:46.002) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> Starting NVDA version 2019.3.1
>>> >> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> Config dir: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda
>>> >> INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (13:56:46.082) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> Loading config: C:\Users\sandr\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
>>> >> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> Using Windows version 10.0.18363 workstation
>>> >> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> Using Python version 3.7.5 (tags/v3.7.5:5c02a39a0b, Oct 14 2019, 23:09:19) [MSC v.1916 32 bit (Intel)]
>>> >> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> Using comtypes version 1.1.7
>>> >> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.122) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
>>> >> INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> Loaded synthDriver oneCore
>>> >> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.402) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0
>>> >> INFO - brailleInput.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> Braille input initialized
>>> >> INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> Using liblouis version 3.10.0
>>> >> INFO - braille.initialize (13:56:46.407) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> Using pySerial version 3.4
>>> >> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.412) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
>>> >> INFO - brailleDisplayDrivers.handyTech.BrailleDisplayDriver.__init__ (13:56:46.464) - braille._BgThread (11016):
>>> >> Found Easy Braille connected via hid (\\?\hid#vid_1fe4&pid_0044#7&7f9a61d&0&0000#{4d1e55b2-f16f-11cf-88cb-001111000030})
>>> >> INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (13:56:46.472) - braille._BgThread (11016):
>>> >> Loaded braille display driver handyTech, current display has 40 cells.
>>> >> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.582) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> Java Access Bridge support initialized
>>> >> INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (13:56:46.582) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (11020):
>>> >> UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6
>>> >> INFO - core.main (13:56:46.762) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> NVDA initialized
>>> >> ERROR - RPC process 8756 (nvda_slave.exe) (13:57:05.773) - Dummy-1 (10840):
>>> >> __main__.main:
>>> >> slave error
>>> >> Traceback (most recent call last):
>>> >>    File "nvda_slave.pyw", line 47, in main
>>> >>    File "installer.pyc", line 454, in install
>>> >>    File "installer.pyc", line 261, in registerInstallation
>>> >>    File "installer.pyc", line 58, in createShortcut
>>> >>    File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyc", line 218, in __setattr__
>>> >>    File "comtypes\automation.pyc", line 729, in _invoke
>>> >> _ctypes.COMError: (-2147352567, 'Ausnahmefehler aufgetreten.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
>>> >> ERROR - gui.installerGui.doInstall (13:57:05.793) - MainThread (10924):
>>> >> Installation failed: 1
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Quentin Christensen
>> Training and Support Manager
>>
>> NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/
>>
>> Web: www.nvaccess.org
>> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
>> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
>> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>
>
> --
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> Training and Support Manager
>
> NVDA 2019.3 rc2 now available for testing: https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-3rc2-now-available-for-testing/
>
> Web: www.nvaccess.org
> Training: https://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
> Certification: https://certification.nvaccess.org/
> User group: https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda
> Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>





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Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1 emergency hotfix #addonrelease

 

Hi,

That’s why the emergency hotfix for the add-on suppresses only a few editing function announcements, not all of them. Thankfully, a key flag for these announcements differ from one another, so it is a matter of locating things to suppress… unless I don’t feel well for a while (health is of utmost priority).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of enes saribas
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 4:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1 emergency hotfix #AddonRelease

 

Hello Joseph,

As reported in the relevent Github issue, these notifications aren't just word deleted, but announce cut, copy, paste among others. Isn't it detremental to suppress them all? I don't think  all would be harmful, and some would be useful.

On 3/9/2020 12:28 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1 is now available. This quick fix release resolves a reported issue where NVDA will say “delete back word” when you press Control+Backspace when using recent Word 365 releases.

Cheers,

Joseph

locked Re: Add-on Updater 20.03 #addonrelease

Arlene
 

Yes, this corna virus is scarey. If we are not careful. It can wipe out this whole world.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: molly the blind tech lover
Sent: March 9, 2020 3:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Add-on Updater 20.03 #AddonRelease

 

This coronavirus is scary.

  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 5:50 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Add-on Updater 20.03 #AddonRelease

 

Hello all,

 

First, as Coronavirus is gripping the world, please wash your hands, heed travel advisories, and check and double-check information floating around the internet.

 

Add-on Updater 20.03 is on its way – this important (and mandatory) add-on release will show up for all NVDA users within the next 24 hours. Changes include:

 

  • NVDA 2019.3 or later is required.
  • NVDA itself will check compatibility range, not the add-on.

 

As I announced a few weeks ago, with Add-on Updater 20.03, all my add-ons I’m currently maintaining have graduated to Python 3 – all my add-ons will now require NVDA 2019.3 or later. As such, once Add-on Updater 20.03 shows up, old Python 2 versions of my add-ons will be removed from community add-ons website.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

Re: Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1 emergency hotfix #addonrelease

enes sarıbaş
 

Hello Joseph,

As reported in the relevent Github issue, these notifications aren't just word deleted, but announce cut, copy, paste among others. Isn't it detremental to suppress them all? I don't think  all would be harmful, and some would be useful.

On 3/9/2020 12:28 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi all,

 

Windows 10 App Essentials 20.03.1 is now available. This quick fix release resolves a reported issue where NVDA will say “delete back word” when you press Control+Backspace when using recent Word 365 releases.

Cheers,

Joseph

locked Re: Add-on Updater 20.03 #addonrelease

Sarah k Alawami
 

Well, being that I'm not yet updated to 19.3, still using 19.2 as the person who made winwizard compatible didn't give us a link and we have to search his twitter for it, yeah, fun times. Hopefully soon I can update as yeah I want to keep using win wizard over here.

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On 9 Mar 2020, at 15:25, Mallard wrote:

Hlelo Joseph,


Many thannks.


As of tonight, the whole of Italy is locked down.


Ciao,

Ollie




On 09/03/2020 22:50, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hello all,

First, as Coronavirus is gripping the world, please wash your hands, heed travel advisories, and check and double-check information floating around the internet.

Add-on Updater 20.03 is on its way – this important (and mandatory) add-on release will show up for all NVDA users within the next 24 hours. Changes include:

* NVDA 2019.3 or later is required.
* NVDA itself will check compatibility range, not the add-on.

As I announced a few weeks ago, with Add-on Updater 20.03, all my add-ons I’m currently maintaining have graduated to Python 3 – all my add-ons will now require NVDA 2019.3 or later. As such, once Add-on Updater 20.03 shows up, old Python 2 versions of my add-ons will be removed from community add-ons website.

Cheers,

Joseph

locked Re: Add-on Updater 20.03 #addonrelease

molly the blind tech lover
 

This coronavirus is scary.

  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 9, 2020 5:50 PM
To: nvda-addons@nvda-addons.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Add-on Updater 20.03 #AddonRelease

 

Hello all,

 

First, as Coronavirus is gripping the world, please wash your hands, heed travel advisories, and check and double-check information floating around the internet.

 

Add-on Updater 20.03 is on its way – this important (and mandatory) add-on release will show up for all NVDA users within the next 24 hours. Changes include:

 

  • NVDA 2019.3 or later is required.
  • NVDA itself will check compatibility range, not the add-on.

 

As I announced a few weeks ago, with Add-on Updater 20.03, all my add-ons I’m currently maintaining have graduated to Python 3 – all my add-ons will now require NVDA 2019.3 or later. As such, once Add-on Updater 20.03 shows up, old Python 2 versions of my add-ons will be removed from community add-ons website.

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


Well now this explains plenty, sigh. This is one of the more notorious AV products and unfortunately not in a good way. The only real way to uninstall this is to delete the registry key associated with McAfee. Things may have changed in recent years.   I've successfully done it, but I don['t recommend that anyone mess around in the registry unless they are totally sure of what they are doing.


Tony

On 3/9/2020 5:38 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,   I use to go out to fix computers for RNIB,   my heart sinks when I hear about this Av Product.   if You can get a a refund and get rid it used to be hard to remove as well. good luck.

On 08/03/2020 23:48, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 05:36 PM, Anna Givens wrote:

    I just bought the subscription for McAfee, so not wanting to take it
    off. Why would I need to?

And if they give you 30 days to turn it back in, my recommendation is that you do.  Over the last several years there have been multiple, and sometimes repeated for a given brand, issues with 3rd party security suites and Windows 10. Windows Defender, as implemented under Windows 8 and 10, lands in the top tier of security suites consistently, and is more than just adequate protection.

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locked Re: Add-on Updater 20.03 #addonrelease

Mallard
 

Hlelo Joseph,


Many thannks.


As of tonight, the whole of Italy is locked down.


Ciao,

Ollie

On 09/03/2020 22:50, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hello all,

First, as Coronavirus is gripping the world, please wash your hands, heed travel advisories, and check and double-check information floating around the internet.

Add-on Updater 20.03 is on its way – this important (and mandatory) add-on release will show up for all NVDA users within the next 24 hours. Changes include:

* NVDA 2019.3 or later is required.
* NVDA itself will check compatibility range, not the add-on.

As I announced a few weeks ago, with Add-on Updater 20.03, all my add-ons I’m currently maintaining have graduated to Python 3 – all my add-ons will now require NVDA 2019.3 or later. As such, once Add-on Updater 20.03 shows up, old Python 2 versions of my add-ons will be removed from community add-ons website.

Cheers,

Joseph

locked Add-on Updater 20.03 #addonrelease

 

Hello all,

 

First, as Coronavirus is gripping the world, please wash your hands, heed travel advisories, and check and double-check information floating around the internet.

 

Add-on Updater 20.03 is on its way – this important (and mandatory) add-on release will show up for all NVDA users within the next 24 hours. Changes include:

 

  • NVDA 2019.3 or later is required.
  • NVDA itself will check compatibility range, not the add-on.

 

As I announced a few weeks ago, with Add-on Updater 20.03, all my add-ons I’m currently maintaining have graduated to Python 3 – all my add-ons will now require NVDA 2019.3 or later. As such, once Add-on Updater 20.03 shows up, old Python 2 versions of my add-ons will be removed from community add-ons website.

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response

 

Mcafee and norton can be good products at least they are supposed to.

But like avast it comes with everything.

Usually when I get a system to service, if its slow and I find mcafee the first thing I do is reformat and reinstall fresh, its the only way to get rid of it completely.

I havn't had a good luck with things like this.

With all the false alarms about, sadly the features the blind need are.

1.  its accessible and 2.  its easy to exclude things.

If it by chance is good at scanning and removing threats its a bonus, however I have a hard job making these programs leave me alone.

On 10/03/2020 10:38 am, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,   I use to go out to fix computers for RNIB,   my heart sinks when I hear about this Av Product.   if You can get a a refund and get rid it used to be hard to remove as well. good luck.

On 08/03/2020 23:48, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 05:36 PM, Anna Givens wrote:

    I just bought the subscription for McAfee, so not wanting to take it
    off. Why would I need to?

And if they give you 30 days to turn it back in, my recommendation is that you do.  Over the last several years there have been multiple, and sometimes repeated for a given brand, issues with 3rd party security suites and Windows 10. Windows Defender, as implemented under Windows 8 and 10, lands in the top tier of security suites consistently, and is more than just adequate protection.

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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, I use to go out to fix computers for RNIB, my heart sinks when I hear about this Av Product. if You can get a a refund and get rid it used to be hard to remove as well. good luck.

On 08/03/2020 23:48, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sun, Mar 8, 2020 at 05:36 PM, Anna Givens wrote:
I just bought the subscription for McAfee, so not wanting to take it
off. Why would I need to?
And if they give you 30 days to turn it back in, my recommendation is that you do.  Over the last several years there have been multiple, and sometimes repeated for a given brand, issues with 3rd party security suites and Windows 10.  Windows Defender, as implemented under Windows 8 and 10, lands in the top tier of security suites consistently, and is more than just adequate protection.
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Re: NVDA saying unknown in treeview inn thunder bird

Kara Goldfinch
 

Try running the COM Registration Fixing tool.


On 09/03/2020 04:49, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I can confirm this, a restart o TBird does the trick, then it never happens again. I dunno where I got that advice but it is good advice.

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On 8 Mar 2020, at 16:14, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys

has any one else noticed after you open thunder bird  then tab a couple of times until you hear nvda say treeview you hear the word unknown?

If I do not have audio themes turned on  it acts as normal and reads out tree view.

It does not seem to happen  unless I turn on a add on called audio themes.

If audio themes is enabled at times I will hear nvda say unknown when I get to tree view When it says unknown it will not let you do really any ting unless you tab or shift/tab back.

Some times a restart of nvda will put it back to normal or even turning it off then back on then it might start again.

But if disabled then nvda turned off then on again it does not seem to happen.

At present it is disabled and does not seem to happen.

Can any others who use that add on confirm when enabled it happens? I have not set up any type of profile for it either just installed it this is with nvda 2019.3 and windows 10 version 1909

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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response

 

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 12:07 PM, Tony Ballou wrote:
So my guess would probably be that it's something crazy in the operating system that's making things nuts.
If this were the case then the issue would be virtually universal, but it's not, and it's not even close.  There definitely appears to be something afoot with NVDA and a small subset of machines running Windows 10, but it's not even clear whether it's for the same Version and Build of Windows 10.

Until and unless the problem were to become far more widespread, and were to be on a single Version of Windows 10, the probability of it being a global issue with the operating system is very, very small.

But I come back to the fact that no new machine should be exhibiting sluggishness and peculiar behaviors with an array of programs, and from what's been offered so far that seems to be the case.  In those circumstances, if you're within your window allowing returns of the hardware, that's the wisest course of action.  There are lemons in the computer world just like in the automotive world and if you have the opportunity to get rid of one it's far preferable to trying to "make lemonade."
 
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Re: New Computer- problems with NVDA response

Tony Ballou
 

Hi Anna,


Welcome aboard! Unfortunately I do not have a solution for your problem.   But I can tell you that this may be due to a bug of some sort.  it has yet to be pinpointed because as everybody knows, in releases windows 10 updates seem to throw either systems out of wack or NVDA for a loop.  So my guess would probably be that it's something crazy in the operating system that's making things nuts.  I've seen a couple of random  reports come through sighting sluggishness with the latest version of NVDA which is 2019 3.1 on some systems, so you're not alone. I had a similar problem with my desktop, which after recently having some work done on it, the sluggish behavior seems to have been resolved for now. 


Trust me, if the bug is in NVDA it's being worked on, if it's in windows 10 unless there's a national outcry from the digital gods and goddesses, it's not. 

 

Tony



On 3/8/2020 3:51 PM, Anna Givens wrote:
I posted this in the NVDA chat list, and was advised to post it here in the main list:

I just got a new computer. Ando had issues with the initial setup, like when the computer first turned on the very first time and it was asking me to get things set up, and it had voice already- I guess it was narrator, it would stop responding and had to keep restarting multiple times. And then when setup process was finished I have had the following issue. Not sure if I should contact someone, and if so who. Or is there something that is just related to NVDA or what. 
Help and ideas are greatly appreciated. I got this computer through Walmart, by the way. 

I am pasting the info of the computer I got. And hoping someone could help me figure out what to do. NVDA is installed and I have had problems. A lot of the time NVDA just doesn’t talk or it responds very very slowly, for example I press tab or down arrow on a website, or on desktop or wherever and after 7-8seconds it speaks next line or item... 
also, when this happens I have only one application running, or it’s on desktop and have nothing open.
Ideas??

Here’s the computer-

Lenovo Ideapad 330s 15.6" Laptop, Windows 10, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U Quad-Core Processor, 8GB Memory, 256GB Storage, Platinum Grey - 81FB00HKUS

Meet the Lenovo IdeaPad 330S. Thinner and lighter with narrow bezels for broader viewing, it boasts state-of-the-art processing and accelerated graphics performance. Featuring an AMD Ryzen 5 2500U Quad-Core processor, Integrated Radeon Vega 8 graphics, 8GB DDR4 2400 MHz RAM (4GB OnBoard + 4GB DIMM) memory, and 256GB PCIe SSD internal storage, this powerful laptop has all the essentials you need to tackle your day. Its 15.6-inch HD IPS LED backlit anti-glare display and Dolby Audio Premium speakers ensure gorgeously sharp images and crystal-clear sound whether you're out at the office or relaxing at home. Plus, with a battery life of up to seven hours, you can take on a whole to-do list before you even need to think about finding the nearest outlet to plug into. Power through any task with ease on the Lenovo IdeaPad 330S.


Lenovo Ideapad 330s 15.6" Laptop, Windows 10, AMD Ryzen 5 2500U Quad-Core Processor, 8GB Memory, 256GB Storage, Platinum Grey - 81FB00HKUS:

  • Operating system: Windows 10
  • Processor: AMD Ryzen 5 2500U Quad-Core Processor
  • Display: 15.6" HD IPS LED Backlit Anti-Glare Display
  • Memory: 8GB DDR4 2400 MHz RAM (4GB OnBoard + 4GB DIMM)
  • Internal storage: 256GB PCIe SSD Storage
  • Graphics: Integrated Radeon Vega 8 Graphics
  • Optical Drive: None
  • Battery Life: Up to 7 Hours
  • Audio: 2 x 2W Speakers with Dolby Audio Premium
  • Wireless: 802.11AC Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.1 Combo
  • Webcam: Front-Facing HD Webcam with integrated dual array microphone
  • Product weight: 3.96 lbs
  • Color: Platinum Grey
Warnings
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Specifications
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Processor Type
AMD Ryzen 5

Hard Drive Capacity
256 GB

Condition
New

Processor Speed
2 GHz

manufacturer_part_number
81fb00hkus

Wireless Technology
802.11AC Wi-Fi and Bluetooth 4.1 Combo

RAM Memory
8 GB

Maximum RAM Supported
8 GB

Operating System
Windows 10

Battery Life
7 h

Model
81FB00HKUS

Screen Size
15.6"

Brand
Lenovo


Thank you all so much.

Anna

On Mar 8, 2020, at 2:57 PM, Anna Givens <annajee82@...> wrote:

Thanka so much everybody!

I am pasting the info of the computer I got. And hoping someone could help me figure out what to do. NVDA is installed and I have had problems. A lot of the time NVDA just doesn’t talk or it responds very very slowly, for example I press tab or down arrow on a website, or on desktop or wherever and after 7-8 seconds it speaks next line or item...
Ideas??

Thank you all so much.

Anna

Re: I think NVDA has a memory leak or something

Ian Blackburn
 

I also  get NVDA stopping speaking at random times.

can be when I run MS word 2010 or firefox or just in explorer


latest NVDA  with the following adons:

sis tray list
    golden cursor  v4.0
easy table navigator  v2.0
VLC v 2.10


thanks

Ian

Re: I think NVDA has a memory leak or something

 

On Mon, Mar 9, 2020 at 09:53 AM, Giles Turnbull wrote:
Windows 10 Version 1903 (OS Build 18362.657)
I presume you mean 1909 if the build number you give is correct.
 
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