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qbittorrent was Re: [nvda] usable torrent client recommendations?

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

I just installed qbittorrent. Unfortunately, I didn't keep the email about how to make the transfer treeview accessible. I googled it, but only got a page full of sponsored content and forum posts about nvidia stuff. Google seems to be less now than it once was. IE, NVDA and NVidia are not the same thing, sighs.

I can use object navigation to see what's in the tree, but given hundreds of torrents, looking at each piece of info individually for each one is possibly not the most efficient way.

Thanks.

Erik

On February 19, 2018 5:47:43 AM "Simone Dal Maso" <simone.dalmaso@gmail.com> wrote:

Hello,
I use qBitTorrent.
The problem is landing in the download area to check what is happening,
but it is free without ads and after having configured it one time it works.



Il 16/02/2018 22:55, JM Casey ha scritto:
Hello everyone.

I have been using Utorrent, or Mu-torrent, as it is sometimes called. I
ended up with some build of 3.5 on this Windows 10 machine. It is not
totally unusable, but the ads have a tendency to get stuck and crash the
program. It also causes firefox to crash on a semi-regular basis. I was
even willing to “upgrade to pro”, to get rid of the ads, but clicking on
the link takes me to some silly games page, and while I’m sure it’s
possible to get to the correct page from there, I got this inexplicable
impression that the developers did not actually want me to upgrade the
software at all, since they make the path so cryptic. In short, I think
I would feel more comfortable with a different client altogether. Of
course, I am looking for one that is very configurable and which plays
nice with NVDA. Have you fine folks any suggestions? Thanks in advance.


Re: Giving up on CodeFactory voices in NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, David,

Microsoft David's pretty good. I like the Mark voice too.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of James
Robinson
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Cc: blindtech@groups.io; win10@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Giving up on CodeFactory voices in NVDA

Hello!

You know, I have had it with this CodeFactory thing of deactivating
constantly. I checked out one of the Microsoft voices they have in NVDA and
this voice is not too bad; it is not as clear as Eloquence or the Vocalizer
Expressive voices, but it is a little better than the standard NVDA voice in
my opinion. I think CodeFactory could make this program permanent with NVDA
as it is with other screen readers. They end up making the program far too
much trouble to use in NVDA than it is worth. I'll just eat the cost
because I don't expect them to do anything about the crazy requirements for
using the voices. I'll thkink twice before I purchase such software in the
future.

Can we use any other Microsoft voices that windows offers? If so, how do we
do it?

James Robinson


Re: accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

 

okay,
i downloaded and tested slimjet,
but its not accessible unfortunately.
only some menus are accessible, but reading web pages and using
navigation quick keys is impossible.
only i could use tab and nvda reads link!
when i press enter on a link, it opens, but nvda cant read the content.
i found another browser which based on chrome titled vivaldi.
is it accessible?
sorry, its based on chromium engine.
has anyone experience using these browsers?

On 2/19/18, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
gene,
when for example: i want to download nvda or any other software in
firefox, it asks me whether i want to open this file, run or save it.
but about multimedia files, new browser open them by default without
asking whether i want to open them or download them.
this problem can be resolved completely by changing about:config
settings of firefox,
but about google chrome, it has not complete solution unfortunately
and wished that test other chrome based browser like slimjet or
chromium.

On 2/19/18, zahra a <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
adobe acrobat does not support persian very well, moreover, its not
free and for the sanctions against iran and reading license of adobe,
i realy dont trust this company!

On 2/19/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I haven't tried those versions of Chrome, but why not ask if such
settings
are available in Chrome? I don't know if they are or not but they
either
may be or there may be another way to do what you want in Chrome.
That's
true for Firefox as well. Also, I'm not sure what you want to do. You
appear to want to be able to save multimedia files without them opening
in
Chrome or Firefox. As I said, there may be ways to do these things you
don't know about in both browsers even if there are no settings. I
can't
discuss multimedia files in part because I'm not sure just what kinds of
files you are discussing and I may not have tried to save those
filetypes..
But in terms of files such as audio files like MP3s, in Firefox, once
the
file starts to play in the browser, you can save it by issuing the
command
control s, then using the save as dialog that opens. I wouldn't be
surprised if that is true in Chrome as well.

Please explain what you want to do in detail so people can address it.

You may want to live in the technological past indefinitely but you
can't
unless you want to be increasingly unable to do things you do now and
limited in things you may want to do in future.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: zahra
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:


i did not say that chrome is not accessible, reading web pages and for
example gmail, is completely accessible and the quick navigation keys
are like firefox.
but its not very accessible for my need in customization and changing
settings!
in firefox is about:config
which has thousands of options and i could easily set firefox
according to my desire,
i searched google and found hidden options in chrome.
but could not find anything that wished to find!
about automatic openning multimedia files, its not just happen on my
system,
even this feature is on by default and by the grace of God, i could
find it in about:config
if i could not find this option for my firefox, i kept firefox 25
forever without update!
because this problem happened since firefox 26 that does not allow
downloading multimedia files without changing settings in about:config
by the way, did you try chromium and slimjet which i asked about them?

On 2/19/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Please don't assume that because you can't do something, that it can't
be
done and that, if you don't fully understand an unfamiliar interface,
that
it is inaccessible or can't be worked with. As far as updates are
concerned, you can't avoid updates because Chrome automatically
updates.
But
that doesn't matter in your case. You use XP and Google Chrome, the
browser, hasn't been updated for XP for perhaps almost a year. In
addition,
the settings, or almost all of them, I haven't checked every one, are
accessible, or at least can be worked with. You have to do certain
things
to be able to work with some of them such as manually turn off and on
browse
mode. The program isn't as accessible as it should be but there is a
difference between accessibility and usability and a lot of programs
are
very usable, even though not fully accessible. Chrome is largely
accessible
and is very usable, though not completely everything is. But it's
usable
enough so that almost everything desired can be done except in the case
of
add ons which may not be accessible, but that's the fault of the add on
designer.

I'm going into all this mainly because your message may, if not
discussed,
mslead others into believing Chrome is not usable and is not reasonably
accessible. I don't particularly like the interface but the program is
reasonably accessible and quite usable.

As far as playing audio files, Chrome does play audio. I don't know if
it
plays what you are trying to play. I don't know what you are having
problems with but please don't state things as though they are facts
based
on only your experience with an unfamiliar program. It's perfectly
alright
to say, I couldn't get it to do this or that. That doesn't mean it
can't
be
done.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: zahra
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 8:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:


hello every one.
as my language is persian
and did not find and there is no one offline program for reading pdf
files in persian language except chrome, i decided to download chrome.
i realy did not like it,
its less accessible than firefox in using settings.
i could not change it to not update automaticly,
dont play audio and video files which i want to download.
openning files after download etc.
so, i wished to try other browsers based on chrome like chromium and
slimjet.
did any of you test these browsers?
are they supported screen readers?
do they the problems that i mentioned for those, i dont like chrome or
not.
i appreciate any of your help, sincerely pray for you and God bless you
all!

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Giving up on CodeFactory voices in NVDA

James Robinson
 

Hello!

You know, I have had it with this CodeFactory thing of deactivating
constantly. I checked out one of the Microsoft voices they have in NVDA and
this voice is not too bad; it is not as clear as Eloquence or the Vocalizer
Expressive voices, but it is a little better than the standard NVDA voice in
my opinion. I think CodeFactory could make this program permanent with NVDA
as it is with other screen readers. They end up making the program far too
much trouble to use in NVDA than it is worth. I'll just eat the cost
because I don't expect them to do anything about the crazy requirements for
using the voices. I'll thkink twice before I purchase such software in the
future.

Can we use any other Microsoft voices that windows offers? If so, how do we
do it?

James Robinson


Re: accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

 

gene,
when for example: i want to download nvda or any other software in
firefox, it asks me whether i want to open this file, run or save it.
but about multimedia files, new browser open them by default without
asking whether i want to open them or download them.
this problem can be resolved completely by changing about:config
settings of firefox,
but about google chrome, it has not complete solution unfortunately
and wished that test other chrome based browser like slimjet or
chromium.

On 2/19/18, zahra a <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
adobe acrobat does not support persian very well, moreover, its not
free and for the sanctions against iran and reading license of adobe,
i realy dont trust this company!

On 2/19/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I haven't tried those versions of Chrome, but why not ask if such
settings
are available in Chrome? I don't know if they are or not but they either
may be or there may be another way to do what you want in Chrome. That's
true for Firefox as well. Also, I'm not sure what you want to do. You
appear to want to be able to save multimedia files without them opening
in
Chrome or Firefox. As I said, there may be ways to do these things you
don't know about in both browsers even if there are no settings. I can't
discuss multimedia files in part because I'm not sure just what kinds of
files you are discussing and I may not have tried to save those
filetypes..
But in terms of files such as audio files like MP3s, in Firefox, once the
file starts to play in the browser, you can save it by issuing the
command
control s, then using the save as dialog that opens. I wouldn't be
surprised if that is true in Chrome as well.

Please explain what you want to do in detail so people can address it.

You may want to live in the technological past indefinitely but you can't
unless you want to be increasingly unable to do things you do now and
limited in things you may want to do in future.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: zahra
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:


i did not say that chrome is not accessible, reading web pages and for
example gmail, is completely accessible and the quick navigation keys
are like firefox.
but its not very accessible for my need in customization and changing
settings!
in firefox is about:config
which has thousands of options and i could easily set firefox
according to my desire,
i searched google and found hidden options in chrome.
but could not find anything that wished to find!
about automatic openning multimedia files, its not just happen on my
system,
even this feature is on by default and by the grace of God, i could
find it in about:config
if i could not find this option for my firefox, i kept firefox 25
forever without update!
because this problem happened since firefox 26 that does not allow
downloading multimedia files without changing settings in about:config
by the way, did you try chromium and slimjet which i asked about them?

On 2/19/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Please don't assume that because you can't do something, that it can't
be
done and that, if you don't fully understand an unfamiliar interface,
that
it is inaccessible or can't be worked with. As far as updates are
concerned, you can't avoid updates because Chrome automatically updates.
But
that doesn't matter in your case. You use XP and Google Chrome, the
browser, hasn't been updated for XP for perhaps almost a year. In
addition,
the settings, or almost all of them, I haven't checked every one, are
accessible, or at least can be worked with. You have to do certain
things
to be able to work with some of them such as manually turn off and on
browse
mode. The program isn't as accessible as it should be but there is a
difference between accessibility and usability and a lot of programs are
very usable, even though not fully accessible. Chrome is largely
accessible
and is very usable, though not completely everything is. But it's
usable
enough so that almost everything desired can be done except in the case
of
add ons which may not be accessible, but that's the fault of the add on
designer.

I'm going into all this mainly because your message may, if not
discussed,
mslead others into believing Chrome is not usable and is not reasonably
accessible. I don't particularly like the interface but the program is
reasonably accessible and quite usable.

As far as playing audio files, Chrome does play audio. I don't know if
it
plays what you are trying to play. I don't know what you are having
problems with but please don't state things as though they are facts
based
on only your experience with an unfamiliar program. It's perfectly
alright
to say, I couldn't get it to do this or that. That doesn't mean it
can't
be
done.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: zahra
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 8:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:


hello every one.
as my language is persian
and did not find and there is no one offline program for reading pdf
files in persian language except chrome, i decided to download chrome.
i realy did not like it,
its less accessible than firefox in using settings.
i could not change it to not update automaticly,
dont play audio and video files which i want to download.
openning files after download etc.
so, i wished to try other browsers based on chrome like chromium and
slimjet.
did any of you test these browsers?
are they supported screen readers?
do they the problems that i mentioned for those, i dont like chrome or
not.
i appreciate any of your help, sincerely pray for you and God bless you
all!

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

 

adobe acrobat does not support persian very well, moreover, its not
free and for the sanctions against iran and reading license of adobe,
i realy dont trust this company!

On 2/19/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
I haven't tried those versions of Chrome, but why not ask if such settings
are available in Chrome? I don't know if they are or not but they either
may be or there may be another way to do what you want in Chrome. That's
true for Firefox as well. Also, I'm not sure what you want to do. You
appear to want to be able to save multimedia files without them opening in
Chrome or Firefox. As I said, there may be ways to do these things you
don't know about in both browsers even if there are no settings. I can't
discuss multimedia files in part because I'm not sure just what kinds of
files you are discussing and I may not have tried to save those filetypes..
But in terms of files such as audio files like MP3s, in Firefox, once the
file starts to play in the browser, you can save it by issuing the command
control s, then using the save as dialog that opens. I wouldn't be
surprised if that is true in Chrome as well.

Please explain what you want to do in detail so people can address it.

You may want to live in the technological past indefinitely but you can't
unless you want to be increasingly unable to do things you do now and
limited in things you may want to do in future.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: zahra
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:


i did not say that chrome is not accessible, reading web pages and for
example gmail, is completely accessible and the quick navigation keys
are like firefox.
but its not very accessible for my need in customization and changing
settings!
in firefox is about:config
which has thousands of options and i could easily set firefox
according to my desire,
i searched google and found hidden options in chrome.
but could not find anything that wished to find!
about automatic openning multimedia files, its not just happen on my
system,
even this feature is on by default and by the grace of God, i could
find it in about:config
if i could not find this option for my firefox, i kept firefox 25
forever without update!
because this problem happened since firefox 26 that does not allow
downloading multimedia files without changing settings in about:config
by the way, did you try chromium and slimjet which i asked about them?

On 2/19/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Please don't assume that because you can't do something, that it can't be
done and that, if you don't fully understand an unfamiliar interface,
that
it is inaccessible or can't be worked with. As far as updates are
concerned, you can't avoid updates because Chrome automatically updates.
But
that doesn't matter in your case. You use XP and Google Chrome, the
browser, hasn't been updated for XP for perhaps almost a year. In
addition,
the settings, or almost all of them, I haven't checked every one, are
accessible, or at least can be worked with. You have to do certain
things
to be able to work with some of them such as manually turn off and on
browse
mode. The program isn't as accessible as it should be but there is a
difference between accessibility and usability and a lot of programs are
very usable, even though not fully accessible. Chrome is largely
accessible
and is very usable, though not completely everything is. But it's usable
enough so that almost everything desired can be done except in the case
of
add ons which may not be accessible, but that's the fault of the add on
designer.

I'm going into all this mainly because your message may, if not
discussed,
mslead others into believing Chrome is not usable and is not reasonably
accessible. I don't particularly like the interface but the program is
reasonably accessible and quite usable.

As far as playing audio files, Chrome does play audio. I don't know if
it
plays what you are trying to play. I don't know what you are having
problems with but please don't state things as though they are facts
based
on only your experience with an unfamiliar program. It's perfectly
alright
to say, I couldn't get it to do this or that. That doesn't mean it can't
be
done.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: zahra
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 8:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:


hello every one.
as my language is persian
and did not find and there is no one offline program for reading pdf
files in persian language except chrome, i decided to download chrome.
i realy did not like it,
its less accessible than firefox in using settings.
i could not change it to not update automaticly,
dont play audio and video files which i want to download.
openning files after download etc.
so, i wished to try other browsers based on chrome like chromium and
slimjet.
did any of you test these browsers?
are they supported screen readers?
do they the problems that i mentioned for those, i dont like chrome or
not.
i appreciate any of your help, sincerely pray for you and God bless you
all!

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org



--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

Gene
 

I haven't tried those versions of Chrome, but why not ask if such settings are available in Chrome?  I don't know if they are or not but they either may be or there may be another way to do what you want in Chrome.  That's true for Firefox as well.  Also, I'm not sure what you want to do.  You appear to want to be able to save multimedia files without them opening in Chrome or Firefox.  As I said, there may be ways to do these things you don't know about in both browsers even if there are no settings.  I can't discuss multimedia files in part because I'm not sure just what kinds of files you are discussing and I may not have tried to save those filetypes..  But in terms of files such as audio files like MP3s, in Firefox, once the file starts to play in the browser, you can save it by issuing the command control s, then using the save as dialog that opens.  I wouldn't be surprised if that is true in Chrome as well. 
 
Please explain what you want to do in detail so people can address it. 
 
You may want to live in the technological past indefinitely but you can't unless you want to be increasingly unable to do things you do now and limited in things you may want to do in future. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 9:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

i did not say that chrome is not accessible, reading web pages and for
example gmail, is completely accessible and the quick navigation keys
are like firefox.
but its not very accessible for my need in customization and changing settings!
in firefox is about:config
which has thousands of options and i could easily set firefox
according to my desire,
i searched google and found hidden options in chrome.
but could not find anything that wished to find!
about automatic openning multimedia files, its not just happen on my system,
even this feature is on by default and by the grace of God, i could
find it in about:config
if i could not find this option for my firefox, i kept firefox 25
forever without update!
because this problem happened since firefox 26 that does not allow
downloading multimedia files without changing settings in about:config
by the way, did you try chromium and slimjet which i asked about them?

On 2/19/18, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> Please don't assume that because you can't do something, that it can't be
> done and that, if you don't fully understand an unfamiliar interface, that
> it is inaccessible or can't be worked with.  As far as updates are
> concerned, you can't avoid updates because Chrome automatically updates. But
> that doesn't matter in your case.  You use XP and Google Chrome, the
> browser, hasn't been updated for XP for perhaps almost a year.  In addition,
> the settings, or almost all of them, I haven't checked every one, are
> accessible, or at least can be worked with.  You have to do certain things
> to be able to work with some of them such as manually turn off and on browse
> mode.  The program isn't as accessible as it should be but there is a
> difference between accessibility and usability and a lot of programs are
> very usable, even though not fully accessible.  Chrome is largely accessible
> and is very usable, though not completely everything is.  But it's usable
> enough so that almost everything desired can be done except in the case of
> add ons which may not be accessible, but that's the fault of the add on
> designer.
>
> I'm going into all this mainly because your message may, if not discussed,
> mslead others into believing Chrome is not usable and is not reasonably
> accessible.  I don't particularly like the interface but the program is
> reasonably accessible and quite usable.
>
> As far as playing audio files, Chrome does play audio.  I don't know if it
> plays what you are trying to play.  I don't know what you are having
> problems with but please don't state things as though they are facts based
> on only your experience with an unfamiliar program.  It's perfectly alright
> to say, I couldn't get it to do this or that.  That doesn't mean it can't be
> done.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: zahra
> Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 8:13 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:
>
>
> hello every one.
> as my language is persian
> and did not find and there is no one offline program for reading pdf
> files in persian language except chrome, i decided to download chrome.
> i realy did not like it,
> its less accessible than firefox in using settings.
> i could not change it to not update automaticly,
> dont play audio and video files which i want to download.
> openning files after download etc.
> so, i wished to try other browsers based on chrome like chromium and
> slimjet.
> did any of you test these browsers?
> are they supported screen readers?
> do they the problems that i mentioned for those, i dont like chrome or not.
> i appreciate any of your help, sincerely pray for you and God bless you
> all!
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> www.al-islam.org
>
>
>


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org



Re: accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello,
Why don't you use Adobe Acrobat Reader for offline PDF reading? It should read any language.
Google Chrome, plays movies and audio very well and to jump to the built-in download manager use F6 to open downloaded files.

Best,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Montag, 19. Februar 2018 15:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

hello every one.
as my language is persian
and did not find and there is no one offline program for reading pdf files in persian language except chrome, i decided to download chrome.
i realy did not like it,
its less accessible than firefox in using settings.
i could not change it to not update automaticly, dont play audio and video files which i want to download.
openning files after download etc.
so, i wished to try other browsers based on chrome like chromium and slimjet.
did any of you test these browsers?
are they supported screen readers?
do they the problems that i mentioned for those, i dont like chrome or not.
i appreciate any of your help, sincerely pray for you and God bless you all!

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org


Re: accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

 

i did not say that chrome is not accessible, reading web pages and for
example gmail, is completely accessible and the quick navigation keys
are like firefox.
but its not very accessible for my need in customization and changing settings!
in firefox is about:config
which has thousands of options and i could easily set firefox
according to my desire,
i searched google and found hidden options in chrome.
but could not find anything that wished to find!
about automatic openning multimedia files, its not just happen on my system,
even this feature is on by default and by the grace of God, i could
find it in about:config
if i could not find this option for my firefox, i kept firefox 25
forever without update!
because this problem happened since firefox 26 that does not allow
downloading multimedia files without changing settings in about:config
by the way, did you try chromium and slimjet which i asked about them?

On 2/19/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
Please don't assume that because you can't do something, that it can't be
done and that, if you don't fully understand an unfamiliar interface, that
it is inaccessible or can't be worked with. As far as updates are
concerned, you can't avoid updates because Chrome automatically updates. But
that doesn't matter in your case. You use XP and Google Chrome, the
browser, hasn't been updated for XP for perhaps almost a year. In addition,
the settings, or almost all of them, I haven't checked every one, are
accessible, or at least can be worked with. You have to do certain things
to be able to work with some of them such as manually turn off and on browse
mode. The program isn't as accessible as it should be but there is a
difference between accessibility and usability and a lot of programs are
very usable, even though not fully accessible. Chrome is largely accessible
and is very usable, though not completely everything is. But it's usable
enough so that almost everything desired can be done except in the case of
add ons which may not be accessible, but that's the fault of the add on
designer.

I'm going into all this mainly because your message may, if not discussed,
mslead others into believing Chrome is not usable and is not reasonably
accessible. I don't particularly like the interface but the program is
reasonably accessible and quite usable.

As far as playing audio files, Chrome does play audio. I don't know if it
plays what you are trying to play. I don't know what you are having
problems with but please don't state things as though they are facts based
on only your experience with an unfamiliar program. It's perfectly alright
to say, I couldn't get it to do this or that. That doesn't mean it can't be
done.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: zahra
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 8:13 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:


hello every one.
as my language is persian
and did not find and there is no one offline program for reading pdf
files in persian language except chrome, i decided to download chrome.
i realy did not like it,
its less accessible than firefox in using settings.
i could not change it to not update automaticly,
dont play audio and video files which i want to download.
openning files after download etc.
so, i wished to try other browsers based on chrome like chromium and
slimjet.
did any of you test these browsers?
are they supported screen readers?
do they the problems that i mentioned for those, i dont like chrome or not.
i appreciate any of your help, sincerely pray for you and God bless you
all!

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

Gene
 

Please don't assume that because you can't do something, that it can't be done and that, if you don't fully understand an unfamiliar interface, that it is inaccessible or can't be worked with.  As far as updates are concerned, you can't avoid updates because Chrome automatically updates. But that doesn't matter in your case.  You use XP and Google Chrome, the browser, hasn't been updated for XP for perhaps almost a year.  In addition, the settings, or almost all of them, I haven't checked every one, are accessible, or at least can be worked with.  You have to do certain things to be able to work with some of them such as manually turn off and on browse mode.  The program isn't as accessible as it should be but there is a difference between accessibility and usability and a lot of programs are very usable, even though not fully accessible.  Chrome is largely accessible and is very usable, though not completely everything is.  But it's usable enough so that almost everything desired can be done except in the case of add ons which may not be accessible, but that's the fault of the add on designer. 
 
I'm going into all this mainly because your message may, if not discussed, mslead others into believing Chrome is not usable and is not reasonably accessible.  I don't particularly like the interface but the program is reasonably accessible and quite usable. 
 
As far as playing audio files, Chrome does play audio.  I don't know if it plays what you are trying to play.  I don't know what you are having problems with but please don't state things as though they are facts based on only your experience with an unfamiliar program.  It's perfectly alright to say, I couldn't get it to do this or that.  That doesn't mean it can't be done.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 8:13 AM
Subject: [nvda] accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

hello every one.
as my language is persian
and did not find and there is no one offline program for reading pdf
files in persian language except chrome, i decided to download chrome.
i realy did not like it,
its less accessible than firefox in using settings.
i could not change it to not update automaticly,
dont play audio and video files which i want to download.
openning files after download etc.
so, i wished to try other browsers based on chrome like chromium and slimjet.
did any of you test these browsers?
are they supported screen readers?
do they the problems that i mentioned for those, i dont like chrome or not.
i appreciate any of your help, sincerely pray for you and God bless you all!

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org



accessibility of other browsers for nvda users:

 

hello every one.
as my language is persian
and did not find and there is no one offline program for reading pdf
files in persian language except chrome, i decided to download chrome.
i realy did not like it,
its less accessible than firefox in using settings.
i could not change it to not update automaticly,
dont play audio and video files which i want to download.
openning files after download etc.
so, i wished to try other browsers based on chrome like chromium and slimjet.
did any of you test these browsers?
are they supported screen readers?
do they the problems that i mentioned for those, i dont like chrome or not.
i appreciate any of your help, sincerely pray for you and God bless you all!

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

Felix G.
 

Hi,
yes, exactly. And it's a dumb file search rather than an intelligent analysis of what is installed. Makes sense when playing it super safe but to my mind it's overkill. Still, it's what's happening and we have to live with it for now.
Best,
Felix

Gene <gsasner@...> schrieb am Mo., 19. Feb. 2018 um 13:35 Uhr:

It has nothing to do with caring.  This appears to be the feature I've seen discussed in Windows 10 that won't let you upgrade if certain programs Windows considers incompatible are on the system.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

Why on earth should it care?
 After all it was the said Microsoft who gave away window eyes only a couple
of years back with office!
 Brian

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From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update


Hi!
Make sure no Window-Eyes version exists anywhere on the system, not even as
a zipped setup on d: when your system drive is c:. It's really that strict.
Hope this helps.
Best,
Felix

Peter Chin <peter.chinpk@...> schrieb am So., 18. Feb. 2018 um
09:39 Uhr:

> I think what you need is the W-E Emergency Removal Utility. If no one else
> sends it to you, I could put it in my Dropbox and send you the download
> link.
>
> *From:* ely.r@...
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:47 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update
>
>
> Repeatedly, I have tried doing the most recent Windows 10 update. Get to
> the step where the installer asks me to uninstall this program as it
> cannot. The program at fault is, Window eyes 9.1. It is not listed as an
> installed program in Programs and Features, “add or remove”. I have
> searched the entire computer for Window Eyes and GW Micro remains and find
> nothing.
>
> Is it possible that the installer is finding a remaining entry in the
> registry?
>
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated,
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
> Dr. Rick Ely
>
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=451+Rocky+Hill+Road+%0D+%0D+Florence,+MA+%0D+01062&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> TVI, Vision Consultant
>
> 451 Rocky Hill Road
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=451+Rocky+Hill+Road+%0D+%0D+Florence,+MA+%0D+01062&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> Florence, MA 01062
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=451+Rocky+Hill+Road+%0D+%0D+Florence,+MA+%0D+01062&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> &413()  727-3038
>
>
>




Re: Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

Gene
 

It has nothing to do with caring.  This appears to be the feature I've seen discussed in Windows 10 that won't let you upgrade if certain programs Windows considers incompatible are on the system.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 19, 2018 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

Why on earth should it care?
 After all it was the said Microsoft who gave away window eyes only a couple
of years back with office!
 Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update


Hi!
Make sure no Window-Eyes version exists anywhere on the system, not even as
a zipped setup on d: when your system drive is c:. It's really that strict.
Hope this helps.
Best,
Felix

Peter Chin <peter.chinpk@...> schrieb am So., 18. Feb. 2018 um
09:39 Uhr:

> I think what you need is the W-E Emergency Removal Utility. If no one else
> sends it to you, I could put it in my Dropbox and send you the download
> link.
>
> *From:* ely.r@...
> *Sent:* Wednesday, January 17, 2018 5:47 AM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject:* [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update
>
>
> Repeatedly, I have tried doing the most recent Windows 10 update. Get to
> the step where the installer asks me to uninstall this program as it
> cannot. The program at fault is, Window eyes 9.1. It is not listed as an
> installed program in Programs and Features, “add or remove”. I have
> searched the entire computer for Window Eyes and GW Micro remains and find
> nothing.
>
> Is it possible that the installer is finding a remaining entry in the
> registry?
>
> Any suggestions would be much appreciated,
>
> Thanks,
>
> Rick
>
> Dr. Rick Ely
>
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=451+Rocky+Hill+Road+%0D+%0D+Florence,+MA+%0D+01062&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> TVI, Vision Consultant
>
> 451 Rocky Hill Road
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=451+Rocky+Hill+Road+%0D+%0D+Florence,+MA+%0D+01062&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> Florence, MA 01062
> <https://maps.google.com/?q=451+Rocky+Hill+Road+%0D+%0D+Florence,+MA+%0D+01062&entry=gmail&source=g>
>
> &413()  727-3038
>
>
>




Re: Master snapshot is only 540k

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

I can confirm that I can't download next snapshot from within chrome and default chrome downloader. Error is:
Failed - Network error nvda snapshot next-14867,1b11c8a9.exe
Restarting is resulting in the same error.
When using IE it fails also at the first try, but when resuming the download it succeeds.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Christo de Klerk
Sent: Montag, 19. Februar 2018 11:24
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k

I used the downloader built into Chrome. Defender is my antivirus program. All other downloads and streaming work fine.

Regards

Christo

On 2018/02/19 11:46 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Sounds to me like the downloader you are using in your browser is
having a problem. Do you use any kind of anti virus that looks at
downloads in real time? I remember some time ago a dodgy version of an
anti virus did something similar to this, and telling it not to look
at the downloads till they had finished fixed it. Basically it times out.

I've not had any issues since getting rid of third party anti virus
software.
Brian

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<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k


Hi brian


I have been trying a few times over the weekend. It is up to 13 meg
now and just died or not far of it. It is like the server is super
slow or not working correctly.

Actually it just died in the download.


gene nz



On 2/18/2018 9:58 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I just downloaded it here using firefox 52 and its over 20 meg in size.

Did you perhaps get the old, this file is not one which is regualrly
downloaded error and then it aborts?
There is section in firefox to turn this warning off.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:32 AM
Subject: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k


Hi guys


is the servers playing up? For the last couple of days i have been
trying to download a master snapshot and each time it comes down it
is only about 540k. Is the server playing up? for when i go to click
on it up comes a security smart screen I think it is the windows one.


I am also wondering if things have changed like it is a stub then it
gets the main file? I am guessing not.


I usually like once a week to see what might of gone into it each week.


Has any one else had the same problems?


This was doing it from inside of the master snapshot under the help
section.


I have also tried it from the main page and still got the same results.


This was again on feb 18th and also tried on the 17th


Gene nz


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of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
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of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert
near you, please visit the following link
https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains
the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the
world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.



Re: usable torrent client recommendations?

Simone Dal Maso
 

Hello,
I use qBitTorrent.
The problem is landing in the download area to check what is happening, but it is free without ads and after having configured it one time it works.

Il 16/02/2018 22:55, JM Casey ha scritto:
Hello everyone.
I have been using Utorrent, or Mu-torrent, as it is sometimes called. I ended up with some build of 3.5 on this Windows 10 machine. It is not totally unusable, but the ads have a tendency to get stuck and crash the program. It also causes firefox to crash on a semi-regular basis. I was even willing to “upgrade to pro”, to get rid of the ads, but clicking on the link takes me to some silly games page, and while I’m sure it’s possible to get to the correct page from there, I got this inexplicable impression that the developers did not actually want me to upgrade the software at all, since they make the path so cryptic. In short, I think I would feel more comfortable with a different client altogether. Of course, I am looking for one that is very configurable and which plays nice with NVDA. Have you fine folks any suggestions? Thanks in advance.


Re: Master snapshot is only 540k

Christo de Klerk
 

I used the downloader built into Chrome. Defender is my antivirus program. All other downloads and streaming work fine.

Regards

Christo

On 2018/02/19 11:46 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Sounds to me like the downloader you are using in your browser is having a problem. Do you use any kind of anti virus that looks at downloads in real time? I remember some time ago a dodgy version of an anti virus did something similar to this, and telling it not to look at the downloads till they had finished fixed it. Basically it times out.

I've not had any issues since getting rid of third party anti virus software.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 6:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k


Hi brian


I have been trying a few times over the weekend. It is up to 13 meg now and just died or not far of it. It is like the server is super slow or not working correctly.

Actually it just died in the download.


gene nz



On 2/18/2018 9:58 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I just downloaded it here using firefox 52 and its over 20 meg in size.

Did you perhaps get the  old, this file is not one which is regualrly downloaded error and then it aborts?
There is section in firefox to turn this warning off.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:32 AM
Subject: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k


Hi guys


is the servers playing up? For the last couple of days i have been trying to download a master snapshot and each time it comes down it is only about 540k. Is the server playing up? for when i go to click on it up comes a security smart screen I think it is the windows one.


I am also wondering if things have changed like it is a stub then it gets the main file? I am guessing not.


I usually like once a week to see what might of gone into it each week.


Has any one else had the same problems?


This was doing it from inside of the master snapshot under the help section.


I have also tried it from the main page and still got the same results.


This was again on feb 18th and also tried on the 17th


Gene nz


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Re: Master snapshot is only 540k

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Just downloaded both snaps and both worked with no huge delays here in the uk.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k


Hmm, Just tried it yesterday and had no problems in Firefox. Could something have inadvertently loaded in malware or some other virus spotting software, Ccleaner is very good at this now they are owned by avast.
Other than that, I'm a little out of ideas, especially as it was working before.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k


Hi brian

There is a problem in a couple of browsers that i have tried to get it with. The download starts then dies some times at 400 k or so some times a bit more. I have adsl and have even left it but still no go.

there is no anti virus blocking it either. I am guessing other should be getting the same problem.. It is the version with 64 f on it it is the latest one.


I wonder what is happening?

Gene nz

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I just downloaded it here using firefox 52 and its over 20 meg in size.

Did you perhaps get the old, this file is not one which is regualrly downloaded error and then it aborts?
There is section in firefox to turn this warning off.
Brian

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Subject: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k


Hi guys


is the servers playing up? For the last couple of days i have been trying to download a master snapshot and each time it comes down it is only about 540k. Is the server playing up? for when i go to click on it up comes a security smart screen I think it is the windows one.


I am also wondering if things have changed like it is a stub then it gets the main file? I am guessing not.


I usually like once a week to see what might of gone into it each week.


Has any one else had the same problems?


This was doing it from inside of the master snapshot under the help section.


I have also tried it from the main page and still got the same results.


This was again on feb 18th and also tried on the 17th


Gene nz


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Re: Master snapshot is only 540k

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So downloading files like podcasts etc elsewhere is no issue, or maybe programs?
If not then its a routing issue to the servers from your location by the sounds of it, but its very odd. Anyone else you know in your area who can also try it? Might be good to see if its your end or in fact a widespread issue.
I guess you could try some pings to the server address and see if the round trip time or packet loss is unacceptable.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k


Hi Gene


No problems with the internet or going to the snapshots page etc it is say when you go to either update the master snapshot through the help section it goes up to the server and then you press the enter key on the save one to download it it is just not downloading from there server that way and even if you go to the main page where the snapshots are and click on the file to download it you still get the same result. Some of the file might come down maybe 400 k or so some times more but never the whole program.


The anti virus is not stopping it either. I have also tried different browsers still the same result.


It seems to be wanting me to retry the download all the time so is not downloading from the snapshots page but no problems any where else for downloading.


Gene nz

On 2/19/2018 11:39 AM, Gene wrote:
Also, does the page take noticeably longer to load when you go to the download page?

Gene
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I doubt it. There may some problem in your area or in your part of the country that is interfering with Internet communications between there and the server. there is no reason that different servers would be used.

Gene
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k


Hi


Nar no matter which browser you use and which way it is just not coming down. I even tried it on the next snapshot and the same results.


I also did it with either the save link thingy in mozilla fire fox and what ever the others are called as well.


it is weird how you and some others can get it but not me. I used to be able to get it every week apart from this weekend.


I am guessing maybe other servers are used for you guys?


Gene nz


On 2/19/2018 10:42 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I was actually able to dl it in about 2 seconds using safari. Did they fix what ever was wrong this morning perhaps, I hope?

Take care all.

On Feb 18, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz>> wrote:

Hi brian

There is a problem in a couple of browsers that i have tried to get it with. The download starts then dies some times at 400 k or so some times a bit more. I have adsl and have even left it but still no go.

there is no anti virus blocking it either. I am guessing other should be getting the same problem.. It is the version with 64 f on it it is the latest one.


I wonder what is happening?

Gene nz

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I just downloaded it here using firefox 52 and its over 20 meg in size.

Did you perhaps get the old, this file is not one which is regualrly downloaded error and then it aborts?
There is section in firefox to turn this warning off.
Brian

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Subject: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k


Hi guys


is the servers playing up? For the last couple of days i have been trying to download a master snapshot and each time it comes down it is only about 540k. Is the server playing up? for when i go to click on it up comes a security smart screen I think it is the windows one.


I am also wondering if things have changed like it is a stub then it gets the main file? I am guessing not.


I usually like once a week to see what might of gone into it each week.


Has any one else had the same problems?


This was doing it from inside of the master snapshot under the help section.


I have also tried it from the main page and still got the same results.


This was again on feb 18th and also tried on the 17th


Gene nz


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Re: Master snapshot is only 540k

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No it would need to be severe latency or packet loss to cause downloads to fail. i wonder what streaming audio might be like?


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Subject: Re: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k


I doubt it. There may some problem in your area or in your part of the country that is interfering with Internet communications between there and the server. there is no reason that different servers would be used.

Gene
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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k


Hi




Nar no matter which browser you use and which way it is just not coming down. I even tried it on the next snapshot and the same results.




I also did it with either the save link thingy in mozilla fire fox and what ever the others are called as well.




it is weird how you and some others can get it but not me. I used to be able to get it every week apart from this weekend.




I am guessing maybe other servers are used for you guys?




Gene nz






On 2/19/2018 10:42 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

I was actually able to dl it in about 2 seconds using safari. Did they fix what ever was wrong this morning perhaps, I hope?


Take care all.



On Feb 18, 2018, at 1:31 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:


Hi brian

There is a problem in a couple of browsers that i have tried to get it with. The download starts then dies some times at 400 k or so some times a bit more. I have adsl and have even left it but still no go.

there is no anti virus blocking it either. I am guessing other should be getting the same problem.. It is the version with 64 f on it it is the latest one.


I wonder what is happening?

Gene nz


On 2/18/2018 9:58 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I just downloaded it here using firefox 52 and its over 20 meg in size.

Did you perhaps get the old, this file is not one which is regualrly downloaded error and then it aborts?
There is section in firefox to turn this warning off.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:32 AM
Subject: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k



Hi guys


is the servers playing up? For the last couple of days i have been trying to download a master snapshot and each time it comes down it is only about 540k. Is the server playing up? for when i go to click on it up comes a security smart screen I think it is the windows one.


I am also wondering if things have changed like it is a stub then it gets the main file? I am guessing not.


I usually like once a week to see what might of gone into it each week.


Has any one else had the same problems?


This was doing it from inside of the master snapshot under the help section.


I have also tried it from the main page and still got the same results.


This was again on feb 18th and also tried on the 17th


Gene nz


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Re: Master snapshot is only 540k

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Hmm, Just tried it yesterday and had no problems in Firefox. Could something have inadvertently loaded in malware or some other virus spotting software, Ccleaner is very good at this now they are owned by avast.
Other than that, I'm a little out of ideas, especially as it was working before.
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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 9:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k


Hi brian

There is a problem in a couple of browsers that i have tried to get it with. The download starts then dies some times at 400 k or so some times a bit more. I have adsl and have even left it but still no go.

there is no anti virus blocking it either. I am guessing other should be getting the same problem.. It is the version with 64 f on it it is the latest one.


I wonder what is happening?

Gene nz

On 2/18/2018 9:58 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I just downloaded it here using firefox 52 and its over 20 meg in size.

Did you perhaps get the old, this file is not one which is regualrly downloaded error and then it aborts?
There is section in firefox to turn this warning off.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, February 18, 2018 7:32 AM
Subject: [nvda] Master snapshot is only 540k


Hi guys


is the servers playing up? For the last couple of days i have been trying to download a master snapshot and each time it comes down it is only about 540k. Is the server playing up? for when i go to click on it up comes a security smart screen I think it is the windows one.


I am also wondering if things have changed like it is a stub then it gets the main file? I am guessing not.


I usually like once a week to see what might of gone into it each week.


Has any one else had the same problems?


This was doing it from inside of the master snapshot under the help section.


I have also tried it from the main page and still got the same results.


This was again on feb 18th and also tried on the 17th


Gene nz


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