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Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Yeah....I think a big reason I still use winamp is that I love the playlist
editor. No need for the library at all. With the editor it's easy to add and
remove files, move them around, randomise them, etc. I could even just dump
all my music in there, randomise, and it'd play forever.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: January 5, 2018 12:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

I also recommend fubar 2000 as well. I have shortcuts set up for play rewind
and volume ETC. And by the way do not ever ever ever load stuff into the
winamp library. Just use explore and find it. This is how I did stuff all
the time when I used to use it.

On Jan 5, 2018, at 7:47 AM, Casey <cwollner@wi.rr.com> wrote:

Hi if you down load this software what is the best way to install it and
set it up for the best results?

Also what kind of learning curve does it have?




On 1/5/2018 3:39 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Gom player offers full interface via context menu and shortcut keys -
it's my current multimedia player software:

http://www.gomlab.com/


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/05 09:25, John Isige wrote:
Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps crashing,
apparently the amount of music I have is just too much for it. I like
Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all over the place to get to
things, I don't have to hit weird alt function key combinations, stuff like
that. I loathe iTunes, in case anybody wants to suggest it. Also, I'm
looking for something modern, or at least maintained, so please don't start
telling me about how if you find just the right website, you can download a
version of Windows Media Player from twelve ears ago that's awesome!


I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be no
keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it was tab
central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care about. But maybe I just
need to learn it better. I organize my own music, so other than pointing it
at a folder and letting it go on random or shuffle or whatever, I don't
think I need an organizer. I thought of VLC but I'm not sure if that has
enough control or accessibility, though I gather you can make whatever
keyboard shortcuts for it you want, so it's a possibility.


If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd keep
using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the point at which
Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in a closet. So I guess
it's time to use something else, which is too bad, because I still dig
Winamp.







--

Casey




Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Bobby Vinton <vinton.bobby5277@...>
 

Well I use vlc media player butt I have played with a player called pot player.  So use should use vlc media player or pot player because those 2 players support lots of formats than win amp.  Good luck

 

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From: John Isige
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 2:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

 

Yes, really. It will be in the middle of playing music, and it will

crash. I'm using a minimal installation, no device sync stuff, no Winamp

Agent, no library. I have no idea why it crashes and I'm frankly not

interested in dicking around with it to find out. That's probably

because I had to reset my PC twice in the last month or so, so this is

my second go-round of reinstalling all and sundry. So at this point,

I'll just take a media player that works if it's decent.

 

 

On 1/5/2018 3:01, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

> Really? The question is why does it crash.

> Normally if its used just to do the playing not the actual running of

> a database its still got the edge over other  ones, you need to  stop

> the portable device detector though as that has always crashed randomly.

> Brian

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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "John Isige" <gwynn@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 7:25 AM

> Subject: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

>> Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps

>> crashing, apparently the amount of music I have is just too much for

>> it. I like Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all over

>> the place to get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt function

>> key combinations, stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in case anybody

>> wants to suggest it. Also, I'm looking for something modern, or at

>> least maintained, so please don't start telling me about how if you

>> find just the right website, you can download a version of Windows

>> Media Player from twelve ears ago that's awesome!

>> 

>> 

>> I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be no

>> keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it was

>> tab central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care about. But

>> maybe I just need to learn it better. I organize my own music, so

>> other than pointing it at a folder and letting it go on random or

>> shuffle or whatever, I don't think I need an organizer. I thought of

>> VLC but I'm not sure if that has enough control or accessibility,

>> though I gather you can make whatever keyboard shortcuts for it you

>> want, so it's a possibility.

>> 

>> 

>> If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd

>> keep using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the point

>> at which Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in a

>> closet. So I guess it's time to use something else, which is too bad,

>> because I still dig Winamp.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 


Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

JM Casey <crystallogic@...>
 

Hey John et al.

I use Winamp too, but I'm not gonna sit here and tell you it should work and you should jump through hoops to get it to work on your system. I've found over the years that there are lots of seemingly inexplicable reasons why the same programme might behave differently on different systems, and like you said, it taxes the patience and you may as well just use what actually does work. I fussed a little more getting Winamp to work on my Windows 10 machine, because the guy who built my system did m the favour of setting it up, only he did it wrong. It works now and I'm rather attached to it. But I also use VlC. VLC is my video player, and probably always will be. Frankly I don't think there is a better video player anywhere. It plays all formats out of the box, pretty much, and unlike in winamp, it's really easy to select different audio tracks from an .avi or .mkv file. There's a lot you can do with it that I haven't totally figured out, and some of the screens are a bit iffy from an accessibility standpoint, but I think we already talked about that. I even figured out how to adjust the equalizer and keep the settings intact, though I think Winamp's is more user friendly.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of John Isige
Sent: January 5, 2018 2:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Thanks for all the recommendations. IIRC, since people seem to be really worried about this, I never touch the Winamp library. I hit shift-l and point it at my albums folder. It starts playing but eventually crashes at some point. The only other thing I've ever used to load music into Winamp was the playlist editor.


On 1/5/2018 12:45, Casey wrote:
hi since you use foobar do you need it to remember every file you play
in A play list?

Do you like it that way.

So when it plays something it is stilled stored in A list so you can
play it again later if you would like to.

If you don't like that future or no how to disable it.

Can you please share how?




On 1/5/2018 11:07 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I also recommend fubar 2000 as well. I have shortcuts set up for play
rewind and volume ETC. And by the way do not ever ever ever load
stuff into the winamp library. Just use explore and find it. This is
how I did stuff all the time when I used to use it.

On Jan 5, 2018, at 7:47 AM, Casey <cwollner@wi.rr.com> wrote:

Hi if you down load this software what is the best way to install it
and set it up for the best results?

Also what kind of learning curve does it have?




On 1/5/2018 3:39 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Gom player offers full interface via context menu and shortcut keys
- it's my current multimedia player software:

http://www.gomlab.com/


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/05 09:25, John Isige wrote:
Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps
crashing, apparently the amount of music I have is just too much
for it. I like Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all
over the place to get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt
function key combinations, stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in
case anybody wants to suggest it. Also, I'm looking for something
modern, or at least maintained, so please don't start telling me
about how if you find just the right website, you can download a
version of Windows Media Player from twelve ears ago that's awesome!


I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be
no keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it
was tab central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care
about. But maybe I just need to learn it better. I organize my own
music, so other than pointing it at a folder and letting it go on
random or shuffle or whatever, I don't think I need an organizer.
I thought of VLC but I'm not sure if that has enough control or
accessibility, though I gather you can make whatever keyboard
shortcuts for it you want, so it's a possibility.


If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd
keep using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the
point at which Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in
a closet. So I guess it's time to use something else, which is too
bad, because I still dig Winamp.






--

Casey






Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
 

I have used groove music which seems to be, a APP. that came with win 10.
I'm not sure if it's suppose to be a replacement for the media player?
I think win amp is still the best for me after using it for many years.
Keep us posted on how you like this music player.
Good day!




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-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob
Kruger
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 2:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Gom player offers full interface via context menu and shortcut keys - it's
my current multimedia player software:

http://www.gomlab.com/


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/05 09:25, John Isige wrote:
Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps crashing,
apparently the amount of music I have is just too much for it. I like
Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all over the place to
get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt function key
combinations, stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in case anybody wants
to suggest it. Also, I'm looking for something modern, or at least
maintained, so please don't start telling me about how if you find
just the right website, you can download a version of Windows Media
Player from twelve ears ago that's awesome!


I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be no
keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it was
tab central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care about. But
maybe I just need to learn it better. I organize my own music, so
other than pointing it at a folder and letting it go on random or
shuffle or whatever, I don't think I need an organizer. I thought of
VLC but I'm not sure if that has enough control or accessibility,
though I gather you can make whatever keyboard shortcuts for it you
want, so it's a possibility.


If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd keep
using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the point at
which Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in a closet. So
I guess it's time to use something else, which is too bad, because I
still dig Winamp.






Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

John Isige
 

Yes, really. It will be in the middle of playing music, and it will
crash. I'm using a minimal installation, no device sync stuff, no Winamp
Agent, no library. I have no idea why it crashes and I'm frankly not
interested in dicking around with it to find out. That's probably
because I had to reset my PC twice in the last month or so, so this is
my second go-round of reinstalling all and sundry. So at this point,
I'll just take a media player that works if it's decent.

On 1/5/2018 3:01, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Really? The question is why does it crash.
Normally if its used just to do the playing not the actual running of
a database its still got the edge over other  ones, you need to  stop
the portable device detector though as that has always crashed randomly.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message ----- From: "John Isige" <gwynn@tds.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 7:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?


Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps
crashing, apparently the amount of music I have is just too much for
it. I like Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all over
the place to get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt function
key combinations, stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in case anybody
wants to suggest it. Also, I'm looking for something modern, or at
least maintained, so please don't start telling me about how if you
find just the right website, you can download a version of Windows
Media Player from twelve ears ago that's awesome!


I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be no
keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it was
tab central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care about. But
maybe I just need to learn it better. I organize my own music, so
other than pointing it at a folder and letting it go on random or
shuffle or whatever, I don't think I need an organizer. I thought of
VLC but I'm not sure if that has enough control or accessibility,
though I gather you can make whatever keyboard shortcuts for it you
want, so it's a possibility.


If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd
keep using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the point
at which Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in a
closet. So I guess it's time to use something else, which is too bad,
because I still dig Winamp.





Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

John Isige
 

Thanks for all the recommendations. IIRC, since people seem to be really
worried about this, I never touch the Winamp library. I hit shift-l and
point it at my albums folder. It starts playing but eventually crashes
at some point. The only other thing I've ever used to load music into
Winamp was the playlist editor.

On 1/5/2018 12:45, Casey wrote:
hi since you use foobar do you need it to remember every file you play
in A play list?

Do you like it that way.

So when it plays something it is stilled stored in A list so you can
play it again later if you would like to.

If you don't like that future or no how to disable it.

Can you please share how?




On 1/5/2018 11:07 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I also recommend fubar 2000 as well. I have shortcuts set up for play
rewind and volume ETC. And by the way do not ever ever ever load
stuff into the  winamp library. Just use explore and find it. This is
how I did stuff all the time when I used to use it.

On Jan 5, 2018, at 7:47 AM, Casey <cwollner@wi.rr.com> wrote:

Hi if you down load this software what is the best way to install it
and set it up for the best results?

Also what kind of learning curve does it have?




On 1/5/2018 3:39 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Gom player offers full interface via context menu and shortcut keys
- it's my current multimedia player software:

http://www.gomlab.com/


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/05 09:25, John Isige wrote:
Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps
crashing, apparently the amount of music I have is just too much
for it. I like Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all
over the place to get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt
function key combinations, stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in
case anybody wants to suggest it. Also, I'm looking for something
modern, or at least maintained, so please don't start telling me
about how if you find just the right website, you can download a
version of Windows Media Player from twelve ears ago that's awesome!


I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be
no keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it
was tab central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care
about. But maybe I just need to learn it better. I organize my own
music, so other than pointing it at a folder and letting it go on
random or shuffle or whatever, I don't think I need an organizer.
I thought of VLC but I'm not sure if that has enough control or
accessibility, though I gather you can make whatever keyboard
shortcuts for it you want, so it's a possibility.


If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd
keep using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the
point at which Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in
a closet. So I guess it's time to use something else, which is too
bad, because I still dig Winamp.






--

Casey






Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

hi since you use foobar do you need it to remember every file you play in A play list?

Do you like it that way.

So when it plays something it is stilled stored in A list so you can play it again later if you would like to.

If you don't like that future or no how to disable it.

Can you please share how?

On 1/5/2018 11:07 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I also recommend fubar 2000 as well. I have shortcuts set up for play rewind and volume ETC. And by the way do not ever ever ever load stuff into the winamp library. Just use explore and find it. This is how I did stuff all the time when I used to use it.

On Jan 5, 2018, at 7:47 AM, Casey <cwollner@wi.rr.com> wrote:

Hi if you down load this software what is the best way to install it and set it up for the best results?

Also what kind of learning curve does it have?




On 1/5/2018 3:39 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Gom player offers full interface via context menu and shortcut keys - it's my current multimedia player software:

http://www.gomlab.com/


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/05 09:25, John Isige wrote:
Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps crashing, apparently the amount of music I have is just too much for it. I like Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all over the place to get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt function key combinations, stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in case anybody wants to suggest it. Also, I'm looking for something modern, or at least maintained, so please don't start telling me about how if you find just the right website, you can download a version of Windows Media Player from twelve ears ago that's awesome!


I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be no keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it was tab central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care about. But maybe I just need to learn it better. I organize my own music, so other than pointing it at a folder and letting it go on random or shuffle or whatever, I don't think I need an organizer. I thought of VLC but I'm not sure if that has enough control or accessibility, though I gather you can make whatever keyboard shortcuts for it you want, so it's a possibility.


If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd keep using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the point at which Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in a closet. So I guess it's time to use something else, which is too bad, because I still dig Winamp.






--

Casey




--

Casey


Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi,
VLC rocks.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angela Delicata
Sent: Friday, January 5, 2018 12:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Hi,

I use vlc which is pretty good for what I need.



Il 05/01/2018 ha scritto:




On 1/5/2018 3:39 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Gom player offers full interface via context menu and shortcut keys -
it's my current multimedia player software:

http://www.gomlab.com/


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/05 09:25, John Isige wrote:
Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps
crashing, apparently the amount of music I have is just too much for
it. I like Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all over
the place to get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt function
key combinations, stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in case anybody
wants to suggest it. Also, I'm looking for something modern, or at
least maintained, so please don't start telling me about how if you
find just the right website, you can download a version of Windows
Media Player from twelve ears ago that's awesome!


I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be
no keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it
was tab central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care about.
But maybe I just need to learn it better. I organize my own music,
so other than pointing it at a folder and letting it go on random or
shuffle or whatever, I don't think I need an organizer. I thought of
VLC but I'm not sure if that has enough control or accessibility,
though I gather you can make whatever keyboard shortcuts for it you
want, so it's a possibility.


If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd
keep using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the point
at which Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in a
closet. So I guess it's time to use something else, which is too
bad, because I still dig Winamp.









Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Angela Delicata
 

Hi,

I use vlc which is pretty good for what I need.

Il 05/01/2018  ha scritto:




On 1/5/2018 3:39 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Gom player offers full interface via context menu and shortcut keys - it's my current multimedia player software:

http://www.gomlab.com/


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/05 09:25, John Isige wrote:
Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps crashing, apparently the amount of music I have is just too much for it. I like Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all over the place to get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt function key combinations, stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in case anybody wants to suggest it. Also, I'm looking for something modern, or at least maintained, so please don't start telling me about how if you find just the right website, you can download a version of Windows Media Player from twelve ears ago that's awesome!


I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be no keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it was tab central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care about. But maybe I just need to learn it better. I organize my own music, so other than pointing it at a folder and letting it go on random or shuffle or whatever, I don't think I need an organizer. I thought of VLC but I'm not sure if that has enough control or accessibility, though I gather you can make whatever keyboard shortcuts for it you want, so it's a possibility.


If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd keep using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the point at which Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in a closet. So I guess it's time to use something else, which is too bad, because I still dig Winamp.









Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Sarah k Alawami
 

I also recommend fubar 2000 as well. I have shortcuts set up for play rewind and volume ETC. And by the way do not ever ever ever load stuff into the winamp library. Just use explore and find it. This is how I did stuff all the time when I used to use it.

On Jan 5, 2018, at 7:47 AM, Casey <cwollner@wi.rr.com> wrote:

Hi if you down load this software what is the best way to install it and set it up for the best results?

Also what kind of learning curve does it have?




On 1/5/2018 3:39 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Gom player offers full interface via context menu and shortcut keys - it's my current multimedia player software:

http://www.gomlab.com/


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/05 09:25, John Isige wrote:
Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps crashing, apparently the amount of music I have is just too much for it. I like Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all over the place to get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt function key combinations, stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in case anybody wants to suggest it. Also, I'm looking for something modern, or at least maintained, so please don't start telling me about how if you find just the right website, you can download a version of Windows Media Player from twelve ears ago that's awesome!


I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be no keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it was tab central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care about. But maybe I just need to learn it better. I organize my own music, so other than pointing it at a folder and letting it go on random or shuffle or whatever, I don't think I need an organizer. I thought of VLC but I'm not sure if that has enough control or accessibility, though I gather you can make whatever keyboard shortcuts for it you want, so it's a possibility.


If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd keep using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the point at which Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in a closet. So I guess it's time to use something else, which is too bad, because I still dig Winamp.







--

Casey




Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi if you down load this software what is the best way to install it and set it up for the best results?

Also what kind of learning curve does it have?

On 1/5/2018 3:39 AM, Jacob Kruger wrote:
Gom player offers full interface via context menu and shortcut keys - it's my current multimedia player software:

http://www.gomlab.com/


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/05 09:25, John Isige wrote:
Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps crashing, apparently the amount of music I have is just too much for it. I like Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all over the place to get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt function key combinations, stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in case anybody wants to suggest it. Also, I'm looking for something modern, or at least maintained, so please don't start telling me about how if you find just the right website, you can download a version of Windows Media Player from twelve ears ago that's awesome!


I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be no keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it was tab central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care about. But maybe I just need to learn it better. I organize my own music, so other than pointing it at a folder and letting it go on random or shuffle or whatever, I don't think I need an organizer. I thought of VLC but I'm not sure if that has enough control or accessibility, though I gather you can make whatever keyboard shortcuts for it you want, so it's a possibility.


If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd keep using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the point at which Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in a closet. So I guess it's time to use something else, which is too bad, because I still dig Winamp.







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Edhoari Setiyoso
 

Hi,

Is htere anyone has experience with front end Development? I Would like to know an accessible Developer Tools for debugging, something like chrome dev tools.

I try Chrome dev tools with NVDA, it can read the source code when mouse pointer is hover above source code. But when i move the arrow keys, it says blank although I'm sure it is right in the middle of source code I'm testing.


I read that firebug is accessible but unfortunately it is dropped by firefox in favor of it's build in debugging tools which sadly not accessible.


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Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Matt Turner
 

Foobar2000.

https://foobar2000.org


You can set up your own keyboard shortcuts, and it also has a youtube plugin.

On 1/5/2018 6:32 AM, David Griffith wrote:

 

An alternative approach may be not to use the Winamp Library at all.

I have never ever imported music into the Winamp library and simply use Explorer or Explorer ++ to organise my Music

 

I then use Winamp from the context menu of the folder or simply to launch individual Mp3 files.

If I want to organise playlists I use Mp3Tag to do this.

Additionally I have  also had problems with Winamp on occasion but resolved it by in-installing and downloading the version available on Nimite.com.

This kseems  to work fine at the moment on both my desktop and Laptop.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: John Isige
Sent: 05 January 2018 07:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

 

Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps crashing,

apparently the amount of music I have is just too much for it. I like

Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all over the place to

get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt function key combinations,

stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in case anybody wants to suggest it.

Also, I'm looking for something modern, or at least maintained, so

please don't start telling me about how if you find just the right

website, you can download a version of Windows Media Player from twelve

ears ago that's awesome!

 

 

I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be no

keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it was tab

central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care about. But maybe I

just need to learn it better. I organize my own music, so other than

pointing it at a folder and letting it go on random or shuffle or

whatever, I don't think I need an organizer. I thought of VLC but I'm

not sure if that has enough control or accessibility, though I gather

you can make whatever keyboard shortcuts for it you want, so it's a

possibility.

 

 

If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd keep

using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the point at which

Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in a closet. So I guess

it's time to use something else, which is too bad, because I still dig

Winamp.

 

 

 

 



Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

David Griffith
 

 

An alternative approach may be not to use the Winamp Library at all.

I have never ever imported music into the Winamp library and simply use Explorer or Explorer ++ to organise my Music

 

I then use Winamp from the context menu of the folder or simply to launch individual Mp3 files.

If I want to organise playlists I use Mp3Tag to do this.

Additionally I have  also had problems with Winamp on occasion but resolved it by in-installing and downloading the version available on Nimite.com.

This kseems  to work fine at the moment on both my desktop and Laptop.

David Griffith

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 

From: John Isige
Sent: 05 January 2018 07:25
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

 

Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps crashing,

apparently the amount of music I have is just too much for it. I like

Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all over the place to

get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt function key combinations,

stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in case anybody wants to suggest it.

Also, I'm looking for something modern, or at least maintained, so

please don't start telling me about how if you find just the right

website, you can download a version of Windows Media Player from twelve

ears ago that's awesome!

 

 

I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be no

keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it was tab

central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care about. But maybe I

just need to learn it better. I organize my own music, so other than

pointing it at a folder and letting it go on random or shuffle or

whatever, I don't think I need an organizer. I thought of VLC but I'm

not sure if that has enough control or accessibility, though I gather

you can make whatever keyboard shortcuts for it you want, so it's a

possibility.

 

 

If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd keep

using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the point at which

Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in a closet. So I guess

it's time to use something else, which is too bad, because I still dig

Winamp.

 

 

 

 


Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

MJW <matthewjwilliams101@...>
 

wonder how difficult it would be to put together a bespoke player
using existing libs and modules.

On 05/01/2018, Julia <julcia514@gmail.com> wrote:
I'm using foobar 2000 and it's pretty good, especially if you setup
shortcuts.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob
Kruger
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 10:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Gom player offers full interface via context menu and shortcut keys - it's
my current multimedia player software:

http://www.gomlab.com/


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/05 09:25, John Isige wrote:
Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps crashing,
apparently the amount of music I have is just too much for it. I like
Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all over the place to
get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt function key
combinations, stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in case anybody wants
to suggest it. Also, I'm looking for something modern, or at least
maintained, so please don't start telling me about how if you find
just the right website, you can download a version of Windows Media
Player from twelve ears ago that's awesome!


I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be no
keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it was
tab central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care about. But
maybe I just need to learn it better. I organize my own music, so
other than pointing it at a folder and letting it go on random or
shuffle or whatever, I don't think I need an organizer. I thought of
VLC but I'm not sure if that has enough control or accessibility,
though I gather you can make whatever keyboard shortcuts for it you
want, so it's a possibility.


If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd keep
using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the point at
which Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in a closet. So
I guess it's time to use something else, which is too bad, because I
still dig Winamp.













Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Julia
 

I'm using foobar 2000 and it's pretty good, especially if you setup shortcuts.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 10:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Gom player offers full interface via context menu and shortcut keys - it's my current multimedia player software:

http://www.gomlab.com/


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/05 09:25, John Isige wrote:
Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps crashing,
apparently the amount of music I have is just too much for it. I like
Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all over the place to
get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt function key
combinations, stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in case anybody wants
to suggest it. Also, I'm looking for something modern, or at least
maintained, so please don't start telling me about how if you find
just the right website, you can download a version of Windows Media
Player from twelve ears ago that's awesome!


I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be no
keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it was
tab central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care about. But
maybe I just need to learn it better. I organize my own music, so
other than pointing it at a folder and letting it go on random or
shuffle or whatever, I don't think I need an organizer. I thought of
VLC but I'm not sure if that has enough control or accessibility,
though I gather you can make whatever keyboard shortcuts for it you
want, so it's a possibility.


If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd keep
using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the point at
which Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in a closet. So
I guess it's time to use something else, which is too bad, because I
still dig Winamp.






Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Jacob Kruger
 

Gom player offers full interface via context menu and shortcut keys - it's my current multimedia player software:

http://www.gomlab.com/


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2018/01/05 09:25, John Isige wrote:
Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps crashing, apparently the amount of music I have is just too much for it. I like Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all over the place to get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt function key combinations, stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in case anybody wants to suggest it. Also, I'm looking for something modern, or at least maintained, so please don't start telling me about how if you find just the right website, you can download a version of Windows Media Player from twelve ears ago that's awesome!


I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be no keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it was tab central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care about. But maybe I just need to learn it better. I organize my own music, so other than pointing it at a folder and letting it go on random or shuffle or whatever, I don't think I need an organizer. I thought of VLC but I'm not sure if that has enough control or accessibility, though I gather you can make whatever keyboard shortcuts for it you want, so it's a possibility.


If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd keep using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the point at which Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in a closet. So I guess it's time to use something else, which is too bad, because I still dig Winamp.





Re: Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Lenron
 

hmm Kind of thinking to try the 58 beta. I am running 57 with a little
lag but not enough to make me completely hate it. I guess I also need
to find the master build of NVDA.

On 1/5/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
52esr does though.

I know of maybe five people using it with no issues. I guess anything before

48 might be a bit of a stretch though.

My main grouse about Windows 10 is the way a major update trashes the
patched outlook Express, still the only client I like and can handle mail
and newsgroups in the one package with minimal learning needed.
I know one should move with the times, but if there is no pressing need to
change one does find oneself questioning the of new software that is worse
for he puposes than the old one was.
Brian

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From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Firefox is extremely slow


Older versions of firefox don't work with windows 10. Try the portable
version.



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Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 1:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Suggest 52 ESR as security update are available for that one, not the others

up to 56.

This is one reason why I do not agree with Joseph about using 58 in his
tutorials. In real world situations they have not yet fixed the access
issues to make it as nippy as the old version was.
Shame they needed to go down this road. They could easily keep the old
version and do security fixes for some years if they wanted to.
Brian

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From: "Edhoari Setiyoso" <edhoari.s@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Firefox is extremely slow


Hi,

Fallback to FF version 53 seems do the trick. Will try update to latest
version just before Quantum

Thanks for your help

Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari <dot> s [at] gmail <dot> com

On 04-Jan-18 12:49 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
The situation has improved somewhat in Firefox 58 and later, which NVDA
2018.1 will support (you can still use FF58 with NVDA 2017.4).
Cheers,
oseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Edhoari Setiyoso
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 9:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Hi All,

I tried Firefox for couple of weeks now and it feels so sluggish. I
think
it began with Firefox Quantum, Unfortunately the solution that I found
in
the mozilla forum is to prevent access for accessibility, effectively
rendering it useless with NVDA. Does anyone here has another solution?

Best Regards

--
Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari <dot> s [at] gmail <dot> com


















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Cell: 985-271-2832
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Re: What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Really? The question is why does it crash.
Normally if its used just to do the playing not the actual running of a database its still got the edge over other ones, you need to stop the portable device detector though as that has always crashed randomly.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "John Isige" <gwynn@tds.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 7:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] What do we like for a media player besides Winamp?


Hi all. I'm looking for a Winamp replacement, since it keeps crashing, apparently the amount of music I have is just too much for it. I like Winamp's minimal interface. I don't have to tab all over the place to get to things, I don't have to hit weird alt function key combinations, stuff like that. I loathe iTunes, in case anybody wants to suggest it. Also, I'm looking for something modern, or at least maintained, so please don't start telling me about how if you find just the right website, you can download a version of Windows Media Player from twelve ears ago that's awesome!


I tried playing with Groove a bit. It works, but there seems to be no keyboard shortcuts to speak of, at least not that I saw, and it was tab central through a bunch of stuff I don't really care about. But maybe I just need to learn it better. I organize my own music, so other than pointing it at a folder and letting it go on random or shuffle or whatever, I don't think I need an organizer. I thought of VLC but I'm not sure if that has enough control or accessibility, though I gather you can make whatever keyboard shortcuts for it you want, so it's a possibility.


If anybody's got recommendations, I'd surely appreciate some. I'd keep using Winamp, but apparently 200 plus GB of music is the point at which Winamp throws up its hands and runs away to hide in a closet. So I guess it's time to use something else, which is too bad, because I still dig Winamp.



Re: Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

52esr does though.

I know of maybe five people using it with no issues. I guess anything before 48 might be a bit of a stretch though.

My main grouse about Windows 10 is the way a major update trashes the patched outlook Express, still the only client I like and can handle mail and newsgroups in the one package with minimal learning needed.
I know one should move with the times, but if there is no pressing need to change one does find oneself questioning the of new software that is worse for he puposes than the old one was.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2018 3:36 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Firefox is extremely slow


Older versions of firefox don't work with windows 10. Try the portable version.



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Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 1:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Suggest 52 ESR as security update are available for that one, not the others up to 56.

This is one reason why I do not agree with Joseph about using 58 in his tutorials. In real world situations they have not yet fixed the access issues to make it as nippy as the old version was.
Shame they needed to go down this road. They could easily keep the old version and do security fixes for some years if they wanted to.
Brian

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From: "Edhoari Setiyoso" <edhoari.s@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 04, 2018 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Firefox is extremely slow


Hi,

Fallback to FF version 53 seems do the trick. Will try update to latest
version just before Quantum

Thanks for your help

Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari <dot> s [at] gmail <dot> com

On 04-Jan-18 12:49 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
The situation has improved somewhat in Firefox 58 and later, which NVDA
2018.1 will support (you can still use FF58 with NVDA 2017.4).
Cheers,
oseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Edhoari Setiyoso
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 9:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Hi All,

I tried Firefox for couple of weeks now and it feels so sluggish. I think
it began with Firefox Quantum, Unfortunately the solution that I found in
the mozilla forum is to prevent access for accessibility, effectively
rendering it useless with NVDA. Does anyone here has another solution?

Best Regards

--
Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari <dot> s [at] gmail <dot> com