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Make NVDA speak certain character

Edhoari Setiyoso
 

Hi,

It's me again :) I still trying to get used with NVDA and could youe some help

I review a code with Visual Studio Code and can't get NVDA to spell the "-" operator when I press numpad 8 or up/down arrow keys. Therefore I have to traverse per character to hear if thera re any dash character in certain line. Tried with Notepas++ with same result.

It's a arithmetic operator and important for me to have it read correctly.

Any help would be appreciated

Best Regards

--
Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari <dot> s [at] gmail <dot> com


Re: Will this patch to windows for Intel chips impact speed for nvda?

 

Who knows, its even hitting the i8 series, they do say anything 4th gen and over may be less effected which means me and a few in my family with 3rd generations will be out of luck.

It does make me wander though they descover this now even on mac, maybe have been incubating a fix, just like y2k for ages before and I have used my system for well everything.

Ofcause the issue is once its out, people will try to exploit it.

On 4/01/2018 4:00 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
It just seems odd that we have if you believe all this lived with this for a decade and I'd have thought there was now a bit of the shutting the stable door when all the horses have gone about trying to retro patch it I understand the biggest losers could be the big server companies who might be using Intel chipped hardware, and hence need things sorting out.
So Maybe I should get my claim for a new processor in tomorrow to be in time....:-)

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2018 10:23 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Will this patch to windows for Intel chips impact speed for nvda?


I do not suspect ulterior motives on Microsoft's part in this case, because
the Linux kernel is being patched in just the same way for just the same
reason.


Antony.

On Wednesday 03 January 2018 at 11:17:37, Brian's Mail list account via
Groups.Io wrote:

Oh really, well, I'm not so sure. It feeds into the mindset that says
Microsofts eventual aim is to lock people in to getting software from its
store and nowhere else in the 'interests' of security, when in reality they
want to do what Apple is doing, create an ecosystem and make it hard for
third parties to just allow their software to run on a system.
 Whether you suspect ulterior motives or not is your  choice.

Brian

----- Original Message -----
From: "Antony Stone" <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 03, 2018 10:03 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Will this patch to windows for Intel chips impact speed
for nvda?

A large number of security flaws (in both software and hardware) do
not
get discovered for a long time after they crept into the design.

I think "if the security hole has been in the chips for a decade,
I'm > not
so sure its that much of an issue" is a dangerous assumption, and not
borne out by Microsoft's sudden activity to patch Windows in such
a way
that it will have a definite performance penalty.  If the 10-year old
security flaw were not much of a problem, Microsoft wouldn't react
in a > way
that unavoidably impacts the majority of Windows users.


Antony.

On Wednesday 03 January 2018 at 10:52:15, Brian's Mail list
account via

Groups.Io wrote:
https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/

I hope that link works, but its easy to find on that site in any
case.
I'm not saying this sounds like paranoia, as I do not know enough
to >> make
such a comment, but if the security hole has been in the chips for a
decade, I'm not so sure its that much of an issue. at any rate I
guess
all those out there with AMD chips will be chortling loudly.

  If its a fault in the chip this seems that it could leave Intel
open >> to
  action to give everyone new chips!

  Brian
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Re: Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Edhoari Setiyoso
 

Hi,

Fallback to FF version 53 seems do the trick. Will try update to latest version just before Quantum

Thanks for your help

Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari <dot> s [at] gmail <dot> com

On 04-Jan-18 12:49 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
The situation has improved somewhat in Firefox 58 and later, which NVDA 2018.1 will support (you can still use FF58 with NVDA 2017.4).
Cheers,
oseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edhoari Setiyoso
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 9:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Hi All,

I tried Firefox for couple of weeks now and it feels so sluggish. I think it began with Firefox Quantum, Unfortunately the solution that I found in the mozilla forum is to prevent access for accessibility, effectively rendering it useless with NVDA. Does anyone here has another solution?

Best Regards

--
Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari <dot> s [at] gmail <dot> com






Re: Will this patch to windows for Intel chips impact speed for nvda?

 

Well its for all oses, linux macs maybe even amd cpus, its huge.

We say a 30% slowdown but then no one knows what that means.

Suggestions with games on linux and a few other things running in it suggest that we won't see a problem.

Cloud systems will probably slow down a bit on initial patch.

And every manufacturer is different.

Windows will have a patch next week, mac allready has one about to go, everyone will follow suit from phones to whatnot.

And its not all of a sudden, we are hearing it from the manufacturers now because they are almost ready for this thing to go.

Its complex as hell, but basically the kernal chip has a memmory leak that means people could read data.

Memmory leaks will be fixed going forward but there needs to be a patch reguardless even if the firmwares and such on various chips are patched, most will be if you have a modern pc, I don't though and so for most of us it will be the os alone.

As for slowing nvda down, we can run on slow boxes, I just pitty everything from games to jaws, but then no one knows information is being gleened from articles and such, And we can't do much about it, releases will be done next week and they will be on top of it, theuy have to.

As for it taking 10 years, you do wander, but then let me remind you of the issues with routers, attached storage boxes, and ssl.

Maybe someone saw that coming but maybe they didn't.

On 3/01/2018 11:03 p.m., Antony Stone wrote:
A large number of security flaws (in both software and hardware) do not get
discovered for a long time after they crept into the design.

I think "if the security hole has been in the chips for a decade, I'm not so
sure its that much of an issue" is a dangerous assumption, and not borne out
by Microsoft's sudden activity to patch Windows in such a way that it will
have a definite performance penalty. If the 10-year old security flaw were not
much of a problem, Microsoft wouldn't react in a way that unavoidably impacts
the majority of Windows users.


Antony.

On Wednesday 03 January 2018 at 10:52:15, Brian's Mail list account via
Groups.Io wrote:

https://www.theregister.co.uk/2018/01/02/intel_cpu_design_flaw/

I hope that link works, but its easy to find on that site in any case. I'm
not saying this sounds like paranoia, as I do not know enough to make such
a comment, but if the security hole has been in the chips for a decade,
I'm not so sure its that much of an issue. at any rate I guess all those
out there with AMD chips will be chortling loudly.
If its a fault in the chip this seems that it could leave Intel open to
action to give everyone new chips!
Brian


Re: Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Dennis L <dennisl1982@...>
 

When will NVDA 2018.1 be released?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, January 4, 2018 12:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Hi,
The situation has improved somewhat in Firefox 58 and later, which NVDA 2018.1 will support (you can still use FF58 with NVDA 2017.4).
Cheers,
oseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edhoari Setiyoso
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 9:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Hi All,

I tried Firefox for couple of weeks now and it feels so sluggish. I think it began with Firefox Quantum, Unfortunately the solution that I found in the mozilla forum is to prevent access for accessibility, effectively rendering it useless with NVDA. Does anyone here has another solution?

Best Regards

--
Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari <dot> s [at] gmail <dot> com


Re: Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


I have the latest 57 version, I think its 5 or 6 as in 57.005 or 57.006 and I don't see this sluggishness.

On 1/4/2018 12:47 AM, Lino Morales wrote:
Yes. Run the version 52 ESR or simply wait till V 58 comes out. Download 58 beta build 13 also if you'd like. That's what I'm running now. Its not as slow as V577.3.


On 1/4/2018 12:34 AM, Edhoari Setiyoso wrote:
Hi All,

I tried Firefox for couple of weeks now and it feels so sluggish. I think it began with Firefox Quantum, Unfortunately the solution that I found in the mozilla forum is to prevent access for accessibility, effectively rendering it useless with NVDA. Does anyone here has another solution?

Best Regards


--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

 

Hi,

I guess it is time to ask the wizard (Tyler Spivey) to help us.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 9:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

 

I don't know how well you will hear nvda  if at all but here is a sample of when I accidently had it at 100 percent. I cannot get it to sound like this any longer. Sorry about the crppy audio. Let's just say I was having a bad day. It's attached to my google drive.

 

 



On Jan 3, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

 

Ah Ok. I'm no longer in the insider program so guess I'll have to wait for this one.

Take care and thanks.


On Jan 3, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
Go to Settings/Ease of Access/Narrator and change the rate to above 80. At
the moment the overall rate is tied to that setting, but I'll ask around to
see if we can change that (requires Windows 10 Version 1709).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

Hello to all. This happens on the stable and next builds. I just reinstalled
windows on my computer and nvda as well. I made sure the system voice was at
Narrator is set to 70.  The one core voices for nvda are still way way way
too slow. I don't see the voice boost anywhere. How can I change this again'
I've actually forgotten how.

Take care all.




 


Re: one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

Thanks. just swimingly. I don't remember doing this last time, but maybe it was already done for me? I don't know. lol! thanks so much and have a happy wednesday.

On Jan 3, 2018, at 9:23 PM, Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...> wrote:

That's not the setting you want.
Go to Settings, Time & Language, Speech. Adjust the speed there.
On 1/3/2018 9:20 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Thanks. I already did this just now and it didn't work. It never sped up it is still very very slow and my slider for nvda one core and narrator and the default voice are all at 100 percent. Other steps? I can try and attach a log if I can generate one really quickly before I crash for the night.

Thanks.

On Jan 3, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
Go to Settings/Ease of Access/Narrator and change the rate to above 80. At
the moment the overall rate is tied to that setting, but I'll ask around to
see if we can change that (requires Windows 10 Version 1709).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

Hello to all. This happens on the stable and next builds. I just reinstalled
windows on my computer and nvda as well. I made sure the system voice was at
Narrator is set to 70.  The one core voices for nvda are still way way way
too slow. I don't see the voice boost anywhere. How can I change this again'
I've actually forgotten how.

Take care all.













Re: Latest Firefox is extremely slow

 

Hi,
The situation has improved somewhat in Firefox 58 and later, which NVDA 2018.1 will support (you can still use FF58 with NVDA 2017.4).
Cheers,
oseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Edhoari Setiyoso
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 9:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Hi All,

I tried Firefox for couple of weeks now and it feels so sluggish. I think it began with Firefox Quantum, Unfortunately the solution that I found in the mozilla forum is to prevent access for accessibility, effectively rendering it useless with NVDA. Does anyone here has another solution?

Best Regards

--
Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari <dot> s [at] gmail <dot> com


Re: Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Lino Morales
 

Yes. Run the version 52 ESR or simply wait till V 58 comes out. Download 58 beta build 13 also if you'd like. That's what I'm running now. Its not as slow as V577.3.

On 1/4/2018 12:34 AM, Edhoari Setiyoso wrote:
Hi All,

I tried Firefox for couple of weeks now and it feels so sluggish. I think it began with Firefox Quantum, Unfortunately the solution that I found in the mozilla forum is to prevent access for accessibility, effectively rendering it useless with NVDA. Does anyone here has another solution?

Best Regards


Re: Mozilla Apps Enhancements add-on is out #addonrelease

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Group,


The first manifestation of this add on did not work with the columns rearrangement.  However this second manifestation works a lot better.  I have a number of folders and for some reason, some columns do not show up as visible when I use the options list within the Thunderbird columns area.  Once I check them and then move them up very slowly, I get the proper order I desire.  This is a great add on for Thunderbird as opposed to the convoluted method of using object navigation to rearrange the columns.  I was never able to accomplish the rearrangement using the object navigation method.




On 1/3/2018 8:27 PM, Gerardo Corripio wrote:
Bravo! I've used it since it was first released about 2 months ago, and and it's awesome! Give it a go!

Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone 5S de Telcel

El 03/01/2018, a la(s) 7:20 p. m., Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> escribió:

Hi Mozilla fans,

 

A brand new add-on named Mozilla Apps Enhancements by Javi Dominguez is now up. This adds useful keyboard commands for Firefox and Thunderbird.

 

Details can be found at:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph


-- 
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Robert Mendoza
 

I believe there are still some issue for screen reader in Quantum version instead.  use the Firefox ESR


Robert Mendoza

On 1/4/2018 1:34 PM, Edhoari Setiyoso wrote:
Hi All,

I tried Firefox for couple of weeks now and it feels so sluggish. I think it began with Firefox Quantum, Unfortunately the solution that I found in the mozilla forum is to prevent access for accessibility, effectively rendering it useless with NVDA. Does anyone here has another solution?

Best Regards


Latest Firefox is extremely slow

Edhoari Setiyoso
 

Hi All,

I tried Firefox for couple of weeks now and it feels so sluggish. I think it began with Firefox Quantum, Unfortunately the solution that I found in the mozilla forum is to prevent access for accessibility, effectively rendering it useless with NVDA. Does anyone here has another solution?

Best Regards

--
Edhoari Setiyoso
edhoari <dot> s [at] gmail <dot> com


Re: one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

I don't know how well you will hear nvda  if at all but here is a sample of when I accidently had it at 100 percent. I cannot get it to sound like this any longer. Sorry about the crppy audio. Let's just say I was having a bad day. It's attached to my google drive.

On Jan 3, 2018, at 9:17 PM, Sarah Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote:

Ah Ok. I'm no longer in the insider program so guess I'll have to wait for this one.

Take care and thanks.

On Jan 3, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
Go to Settings/Ease of Access/Narrator and change the rate to above 80. At
the moment the overall rate is tied to that setting, but I'll ask around to
see if we can change that (requires Windows 10 Version 1709).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

Hello to all. This happens on the stable and next builds. I just reinstalled
windows on my computer and nvda as well. I made sure the system voice was at
Narrator is set to 70.  The one core voices for nvda are still way way way
too slow. I don't see the voice boost anywhere. How can I change this again'
I've actually forgotten how.

Take care all.







Re: one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

Tyler Spivey
 

That's not the setting you want.
Go to Settings, Time & Language, Speech. Adjust the speed there.

On 1/3/2018 9:20 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Thanks. I already did this just now and it didn't work. It never sped up it is still very very slow and my slider for nvda one core and narrator and the default voice are all at 100 percent. Other steps? I can try and attach a log if I can generate one really quickly before I crash for the night.

Thanks.

On Jan 3, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Go to Settings/Ease of Access/Narrator and change the rate to above 80. At
the moment the overall rate is tied to that setting, but I'll ask around to
see if we can change that (requires Windows 10 Version 1709).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

Hello to all. This happens on the stable and next builds. I just reinstalled
windows on my computer and nvda as well. I made sure the system voice was at
Narrator is set to 70. The one core voices for nvda are still way way way
too slow. I don't see the voice boost anywhere. How can I change this again'
I've actually forgotten how.

Take care all.







Re: one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

Thanks. I already did this just now and it didn't work. It never sped up it is still very very slow and my slider for nvda one core and narrator and the default voice are all at 100 percent. Other steps? I can try and attach a log if I can generate one really quickly before I crash for the night.

Thanks.

On Jan 3, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Go to Settings/Ease of Access/Narrator and change the rate to above 80. At
the moment the overall rate is tied to that setting, but I'll ask around to
see if we can change that (requires Windows 10 Version 1709).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

Hello to all. This happens on the stable and next builds. I just reinstalled
windows on my computer and nvda as well. I made sure the system voice was at
Narrator is set to 70. The one core voices for nvda are still way way way
too slow. I don't see the voice boost anywhere. How can I change this again'
I've actually forgotten how.

Take care all.





Re: one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

Ah Ok. I'm no longer in the insider program so guess I'll have to wait for this one.

Take care and thanks.

On Jan 3, 2018, at 9:11 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
Go to Settings/Ease of Access/Narrator and change the rate to above 80. At
the moment the overall rate is tied to that setting, but I'll ask around to
see if we can change that (requires Windows 10 Version 1709).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

Hello to all. This happens on the stable and next builds. I just reinstalled
windows on my computer and nvda as well. I made sure the system voice was at
Narrator is set to 70. The one core voices for nvda are still way way way
too slow. I don't see the voice boost anywhere. How can I change this again'
I've actually forgotten how.

Take care all.





Re: one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

 

Hi,
Go to Settings/Ease of Access/Narrator and change the rate to above 80. At
the moment the overall rate is tied to that setting, but I'll ask around to
see if we can change that (requires Windows 10 Version 1709).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, January 3, 2018 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

Hello to all. This happens on the stable and next builds. I just reinstalled
windows on my computer and nvda as well. I made sure the system voice was at
Narrator is set to 70. The one core voices for nvda are still way way way
too slow. I don't see the voice boost anywhere. How can I change this again'
I've actually forgotten how.

Take care all.


one core voices are too slow when I choose them with nvda

Sarah k Alawami
 

Hello to all. This happens on the stable and next builds. I just reinstalled windows on my computer and nvda as well. I made sure the system voice was at Narrator is set to 70. The one core voices for nvda are still way way way too slow. I don't see the voice boost anywhere. How can I change this again' I've actually forgotten how.

Take care all.


Re: Mozilla Apps Enhancements add-on is out #addonrelease

Robert Mendoza
 

also, like in Mozilla to suggest if the report of nvda for reading non-address should be empty instead of saying none insecure connection. to make more accurate of giving reports and less of confusion to the users.


Robert Mendoza
On 1/4/2018 10:16 AM, Robert Mendoza wrote:

I tested this and it works well. However, in Thunderbird when I pressed control+ shift + 6 it announces only the time, not the date. Also, like to ask if we could customize the date format settings as well.

Robert Mendoza
On 1/4/2018 9:20 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi Mozilla fans,

 

A brand new add-on named Mozilla Apps Enhancements by Javi Dominguez is now up. This adds useful keyboard commands for Firefox and Thunderbird.

 

Details can be found at:

https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/mozillaScripts.en.html

 

Enjoy.

Cheers,

Joseph