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Re: CD ripping software that works well with NVDA

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Hello,

Exact audio copy and CDex are the two most popular and accessible. I began with CDex and liked it a lot when I still used windows for such things. Exact audio copy is the favourite of purists and audiofiles because out of the box it has extremely strict error checking. CDex can do this, but needs to be set up for it and at that, it takes longer than EAC to rip with strict settings.

Hope this helps,

Erik

On January 28, 2018 9:14:06 AM "Steve Nomer" <swnomer@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,


I have a large number of CDs that need to be ripped. Are there some good
rippers out there that work well with NVDA? Thanks for any suggestions.


Steve


Re: CD ripping software that works well with NVDA

 

Hi
If those are audio cd, use anyburn: http://anyburn.com
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Subject: [nvda] CD ripping software that works well with NVDA


Hi,


I have a large number of CDs that need to be ripped. Are there some good rippers out there that work well with NVDA? Thanks for any suggestions.


Steve



CD ripping software that works well with NVDA

Steve Nomer
 

Hi,


I have a large number of CDs that need to be ripped. Are there some good rippers out there that work well with NVDA? Thanks for any suggestions.


Steve


Re: code factory Eloquence for NVDA

特種兵
 


  Does the sapi5 eloquence support Chinese or mandarin?
  thanks

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan
Josh Kennedy 於 2018/1/28 下午 09:22 寫道:

In your start menu there is an eloquence settings dialog that lets you change voice and stuff. I bought the sapi5 eloquence from atguys and it works very good. 


Re: code factory Eloquence for NVDA

Ann Byrne
 

Can you use it on more than one computer???

At 07:22 AM 1/28/2018, you wrote:
In your start menu there is an eloquence settings dialog that lets you change voice and stuff. I bought the sapi5 eloquence from atguys and it works very good.


Re: code factory Eloquence for NVDA

bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
 

Found it. Thanks.

On 1/28/2018 8:22 AM, Josh Kennedy wrote:
In your start menu there is an eloquence settings dialog that lets you change voice and stuff. I bought the sapi5 eloquence from atguys and it works very good.


Re: code factory Eloquence for NVDA

Josh Kennedy
 

In your start menu there is an eloquence settings dialog that lets you change voice and stuff. I bought the sapi5 eloquence from atguys and it works very good. 


Re: NVDA and Amazon

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Yes its the same bit on the end for the uk site, but to be honest its not a lot different and one often ends up back on the main site to find stuff.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Amazon


is there an access page for the UK?

On 27/01/2018 17:18, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
I've always tried the access site and had good luck with it.




On 1/27/2018 9:15 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Try amazon.com/access <http://amazon.com/access> you will have better luck there.

hope that helps a bit.

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I was just on it a moment ago with firefox 52esr and found no problems adding an item to my basket after logging in. This is the uk site.
Brian

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Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Amazon


Hi all.


Do Any of you kind people use the above? I can't even sign in. There is a sign in button but when I press Return the space bar as I usually would, nothing happends.


Any help appreciated.


Ron


Re: NVDA and Amazon

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Yes customer reviews seem to now be what I can only describe as tonka toy interfaced. What they have done is dumbed it down but in the process made it very hard as it repeats itself all the time whereas before you had simple links forward and back etc. However not sure i trust customer reviews myself.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Amazon


I would second that experience with the standard Amazon site. They messed about with customer reviews that make them more cumbersome to use, but have no issues. Running Windows 10 and have stayed with Firefox 57 but will likely move to 58 this weekend.


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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Amazon

I use Amazon all the time with NVDA 2017.4 and have no real problems. I experience nothing like what you are describing. I am using Windows 10, Firefox 58 with standard settings.



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Do Any of you kind people use the above? I can't even sign in. There
is a sign in button but when I press Return the space bar as I usually
would, nothing happends.


Any help appreciated.


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Re: NVDA and Amazon

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Yes I'm using 7 with the version 52esr and have had no issues other than the usual overclutter issues of many shopping sites really.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Amazon


I use Amazon all the time with NVDA 2017.4 and have no real problems. I experience nothing like what you are describing. I am using Windows 10, Firefox 58 with standard settings.



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Hi all.


Do Any of you kind people use the above? I can't even sign in. There is a sign in button but when I press Return the space bar as I usually would, nothing happends.


Any help appreciated.


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Re: FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

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Hmm, but its a step backwards for no real gain in any way from the users point of view. if the wheel is rolling and the axle still fits who needs a new wheel?
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Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers


How about object nav. If that seems to work I guess use that. As for me I just keep an eye on file size and date modified. It's not that bad really. I do it with the windows sublynux system (ubuntu in my case) so yeah it's not that bad.

On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:23 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Yes exactly, you cannot cursor around if you have had a download spree there is a list of the files in there, when I press up and down I get unknown.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers


Yes, it reads or report the progress bar status but the name of the file you've been dll is not announced. that is the bug that need to be fix. Not unless in the earlier version you have at least a guide to know about what file you are downloading.


Robert Mendoza

On 1/27/2018 7:40 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Yes the dl dialogue speaks for me. I just throw it to the side and check my dl folder after about 2 minutes as I'm on a fast connection over here so for me it is no big deal.

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How do you find it on pages that refresh though? Also does the download dialogue speak for you?
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Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers


Hi, Pascal,



I'm really amazed at how fast FF 58 is. I'm thinking of making it my default browser too.



Rosemarie







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Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 6:31 AM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers



Hi All,

Till two days ago, I was very frustrated with Firefox. Wow, FF58 solved all of them and today I am surfing beautifully with Firefox like never before. I made it again my default.

Blessings

Pascal





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Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers



Same with me!

I am using NVDA latest master development snapshot,

And it works really well with Firefox 58. I am accessing so many programs, apps, and browsers with NVDA verses JAWS. JAWS is getting way behind. NVDA works much better in Edge, for example. I really want to show my gratitude for all you do.

I just tried the News app with JAWS 2018 and NVDA, and NVDA works much better. I am using NVDA more and more to do just what I want to do.

Also, NVDA lets me know, in the mail app, as I type, when I made a spelling mistake. I can just press Shift+F10 to correct it.

That is beautiful.

David Moore

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Subject: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers



Respected friends, as you are well aware that Mozilla has updated its browser FF58 on January 23rd 2018 as it promised!

I’m very much delighted to let you know that NVDA is well a head of all screen reader regarding the use of FF58.

The matter of fact is that I have JAWS 18.4530, JAWS 2018.1712.54, narrator and NVDA 2017.4.

I have tested FF58 with all of them and I found out that Fire Fox 58 is working the best with NVDA 2017.4.

I really couldn’t understand that even then Freedomscientific/VFO is charging hundreds and thousands of US Dollars from visually challenged people and from different agencies which are helping visually challenged people, why they haven’t come up with JAWS update before releasing of Fire Fox 58!

This fundamental question is enough to convince those people and agencies which are giving hundreds and thousands of Dollars to Freedomscientific/VFo, should donate a hand some amount of money to NVAccess as well so it can work for the betterment of visually challenged people better than before!

In short all I can say is “East and west, NVDA is the best”

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Re: NVDA and Amazon

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One other thing I have found on some web sites with dodgy controls is that nvda numpad enter can often work when other things do not, but having tried both the sites of Amazon yesterday, I have had no trouble logging in other than my terrible typing!


The main annoyance on their site revolves around that hugely complicated shop by department and fiddle about part of a page. Sometimes you seem to randomly fall into it and something has been changed without you noticing. I suspect that it is due to the way parts of some of their pages do refresh and confuse things.

The annoying tendency recently to find that the one product you really need is for prime customers only is a growing annoyance too.
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Try amazon.com/access <http://amazon.com/access> you will have better luck there.

hope that helps a bit.

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I was just on it a moment ago with firefox 52esr and found no problems adding an item to my basket after logging in. This is the uk site.
Brian

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Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Amazon


Hi all.


Do Any of you kind people use the above? I can't even sign in. There is a sign in button but when I press Return the space bar as I usually would, nothing happends.


Any help appreciated.


Ron



Re: Welcome to NVDA 2018: part 9 (add-ons) posted, completepackages for parts 6 and 7 (provisional)

 

Hi,

Touchscreen: demonstrated throughout the tutorial set. Enhanced Touch Gestures add-on is covered briefly while talking about NVDA Remote add-on. I’ll update the website accordingly.

ObjPad: highly unlikely for a while.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of kavein thran
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 10:48 PM
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: part 9 (add-ons) posted, completepackages for parts 6 and 7 (provisional)

 

Wonderful, it will be nice if the nvda touch screen support is reviewed and nvda touch gestures addon is demonstrated.

Also, the addon that emulates jawscursor aka obj 
Navigation can be demonstrated 

Thanks

Sent from my iPhone


On 28 Jan 2018, at 11:24 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

At the moment there are two planned: NVDA and Windows 10 on ARM, and NVDA as a Windows Store app. There won’t be demos, but they’ll include information people will need to know as they encounter NVDA in those situations. One of them ties into what’s coming in NVDA 2018.1, the other is from 2017.4.

 

Specifically:

  • NVDA and Windows 10 on ARM will talk about ARM processors, concept of emulation, why this development is important, and performance considerations.
  • NVDA as a Windows Store app will discuss how classic desktop apps are converted, advantages and limitations and so on.

 

Additional sections upon request… or maybe not. I’ll elaborate in February.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of kavein thran
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: part 9 (add-ons) posted, completepackages for parts 6 and 7 (provisional)

 

Hi Joseph, thanks for all the good works you’ve done. Really appreciate it so much.

 

What are the next addendums?

 

Sent from my iPhone


On 28 Jan 2018, at 7:59 AM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Hi Joseph!

Same goes with me. You will help so many, because I will recommend your tutorials on many Facebook groups, and so many people I know who are interested to have NVDA be at least their back-up screen reader.

I will really listen to all of this myself to prepare myself for certification.

Thank you for all of your time and effort to put these tutorials together in such a understandable way!

David Moore

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From: matthew dyer
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: part 9 (add-ons) posted, completepackages for parts 6 and 7 (provisional)

 

Hi,

 

Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together.  I am planning to get a hold of this and keep it around for anyone who might be interested.  I will give all of this a listen as I think It will give me a better understanding on how this all works and will help me in teaching others who might need help.

 

Thank you again,.

 

 





On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

 

Ladies and gentlemen,

 

I’m delighted to announce the completion of component-based version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set! I’ll explain what I just said in just a moment.

 

Before I go any further, I’d like to take a moment to thank everyone for your continued support and encouragement. The last six weeks have been a challenging yet fun period. In the midst of adjusting to new semester schedule (at Cal State Los Angeles), attending speech and debate competitions, going over add-ons and dealing with NVDA translation issues, I always looked forward to today’s milestone. There are a couple things to be done (including minor edits), but for all intents and purposes, you can now use the 2018 edition of my tutorial set as a handy reference and a teaching tool when training new NVDA users.

 

Today’s milestone means:

 

  • Component-based tutorial set: as promised last year, each segment are separate mp3 files. As of today, all nine sections in the main tutorial set are done. There might be changes in February once NVDA 2018.1 nears completion (if a message changes (especially in NVDA preferences, edits will be done).
  • Usage: as a free tutorial set, anyone is welcome to use the tutorial however they wish (including possible text transcriptions, converting them into a DAISY book, citing in other tutorials, etc.).

 

Speaking of sections: the ninth (and for now, final) section of welcome to NVDA 2018 is now available. This section has gone one of the most extensive edits, as it talks about NVDA add-ons. As always, the section (and components) can be found at www.josephsl.net/tutorials.

 

Also, complete packages for parts 6 and 7 (both concerning NVDA preferences) are now available:

 

 

Note that complete packages for parts 8 and 9 aren’t up yet. They will go up along with addenda soon. Once features for NVDA 2018.1 are frozen (early February), a zip file containing complete packages, addenda, and an overall introduction and changelog (part 0) will be posted, marking the end of this project. This also means the 2015 edition will be removed from the website. Stay tuned as I’ll also be making an announcement regarding this tutorial set and others.

 

Now for the fun part:

 

Changelog for part 9 (NVDA add-ons) from 2015:

 

  • Completely redone.
  • In add-ons manager segment, added steps on how to enable or disable individual add-ons.
  • Features new and updated add-ons (some prominent, others subtle): GoldWave (updated and used to demonstrate disabling individual add-ons), Systray List (updated), Resource Monitor (updated), DictationBridge (new), Golden Cursor (new), Remote Support (new), Windows 10 App Essentials (new), SentenceNav (new and used during introduction to community add-ons website).
  • GoldWave: the effects of disabling and enabling individual add-ons are demonstrated.
  • SentenceNav: brief demonstration while reading add-ons website content.
  • Systray List: no major changes except for user interface.
  • Resource Monitor: added coverage of system uptime (NVDA+Shift+7) and clarified Windows 10 release announcements for Windows version information (NVDA+Shift+6).
  • Remote Support: basics, including controlling remote computer, muting remote speech, sending clipboard data and add-on options are covered (did not cover remote braille and secure screen considerations due to time constraints).
  • Golden Cursor: covers mouse manipulation via keyboard, mouse arrows, jumping to, saving, and viewing saved mouse positions, changing mouse movement unit, toggling mouse movement restrictions, add-on options.
  • DictationBridge: basic dictation, clicking controls, key presses, installing NVDA commands for Windows Speech Recognition, performing NVDA commands via voice.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: updating add-on, emoji panel, Skype universal app.
  • Final remarks: links to NVDA users list, GitHub, and NV Access websites are provided, along with information on NVDACon.
  • It will take almost two hours to traverse all segments.

 

Last minute changes on other sections:

  • Part 1 (introduction) has seen file renames to better reflect file content.
  • Tutorial version is now 2018.1 with 2017.4 features included.
  • Introduction for part 6 (NVDA Preferences I) has been updated to say that first half of preferences will cover touch interaction.

 

Overall tutorial set statistics:

  • Total duration: slightly more than 13 hours (minus upcoming addenda).
  • Average duration per section: almost 90 minutes.
  • Average segment duration: 7 minutes.
  • Shortest section: part 1 (Introduction).
  • Longest section: part 4 (NVDA and the web).
  • Longest thematic section: NVDA preferences (parts 6 and 7, which combined runs for over three hours).

 

Up next:

  • Complete packages for parts 8 and 9 will be published, with part 9 divided into two parts. These will go up next week.
  • Addenda: two addendum recordings are planned and will go up soon.
  • The “real” complete package (a zip file) along with part 0 (changelog) will be published once NVDA 2018.1 feature set is frozen in February (for resident translators, this means shortly after start of translatable string freeze).
  • The 2015 edition of Welcome to NVDA will be removed.

 

Thank you and enjoy the tutorial set.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 


Re: Welcome to NVDA 2018: part 9 (add-ons) posted, completepackages for parts 6 and 7 (provisional)

kavein thran
 

Wonderful, it will be nice if the nvda touch screen support is reviewed and nvda touch gestures addon is demonstrated.
Also, the addon that emulates jawscursor aka obj 
Navigation can be demonstrated 
Thanks
Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Jan 2018, at 11:24 AM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,

At the moment there are two planned: NVDA and Windows 10 on ARM, and NVDA as a Windows Store app. There won’t be demos, but they’ll include information people will need to know as they encounter NVDA in those situations. One of them ties into what’s coming in NVDA 2018.1, the other is from 2017.4.

 

Specifically:

  • NVDA and Windows 10 on ARM will talk about ARM processors, concept of emulation, why this development is important, and performance considerations.
  • NVDA as a Windows Store app will discuss how classic desktop apps are converted, advantages and limitations and so on.

 

Additional sections upon request… or maybe not. I’ll elaborate in February.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of kavein thran
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: part 9 (add-ons) posted, completepackages for parts 6 and 7 (provisional)

 

Hi Joseph, thanks for all the good works you’ve done. Really appreciate it so much.

 

What are the next addendums?

 

Sent from my iPhone


On 28 Jan 2018, at 7:59 AM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Hi Joseph!

Same goes with me. You will help so many, because I will recommend your tutorials on many Facebook groups, and so many people I know who are interested to have NVDA be at least their back-up screen reader.

I will really listen to all of this myself to prepare myself for certification.

Thank you for all of your time and effort to put these tutorials together in such a understandable way!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: matthew dyer
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: part 9 (add-ons) posted, completepackages for parts 6 and 7 (provisional)

 

Hi,

 

Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together.  I am planning to get a hold of this and keep it around for anyone who might be interested.  I will give all of this a listen as I think It will give me a better understanding on how this all works and will help me in teaching others who might need help.

 

Thank you again,.

 

 




On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

 

Ladies and gentlemen,

 

I’m delighted to announce the completion of component-based version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set! I’ll explain what I just said in just a moment.

 

Before I go any further, I’d like to take a moment to thank everyone for your continued support and encouragement. The last six weeks have been a challenging yet fun period. In the midst of adjusting to new semester schedule (at Cal State Los Angeles), attending speech and debate competitions, going over add-ons and dealing with NVDA translation issues, I always looked forward to today’s milestone. There are a couple things to be done (including minor edits), but for all intents and purposes, you can now use the 2018 edition of my tutorial set as a handy reference and a teaching tool when training new NVDA users.

 

Today’s milestone means:

 

  • Component-based tutorial set: as promised last year, each segment are separate mp3 files. As of today, all nine sections in the main tutorial set are done. There might be changes in February once NVDA 2018.1 nears completion (if a message changes (especially in NVDA preferences, edits will be done).
  • Usage: as a free tutorial set, anyone is welcome to use the tutorial however they wish (including possible text transcriptions, converting them into a DAISY book, citing in other tutorials, etc.).

 

Speaking of sections: the ninth (and for now, final) section of welcome to NVDA 2018 is now available. This section has gone one of the most extensive edits, as it talks about NVDA add-ons. As always, the section (and components) can be found at www.josephsl.net/tutorials.

 

Also, complete packages for parts 6 and 7 (both concerning NVDA preferences) are now available:

 

 

Note that complete packages for parts 8 and 9 aren’t up yet. They will go up along with addenda soon. Once features for NVDA 2018.1 are frozen (early February), a zip file containing complete packages, addenda, and an overall introduction and changelog (part 0) will be posted, marking the end of this project. This also means the 2015 edition will be removed from the website. Stay tuned as I’ll also be making an announcement regarding this tutorial set and others.

 

Now for the fun part:

 

Changelog for part 9 (NVDA add-ons) from 2015:

 

  • Completely redone.
  • In add-ons manager segment, added steps on how to enable or disable individual add-ons.
  • Features new and updated add-ons (some prominent, others subtle): GoldWave (updated and used to demonstrate disabling individual add-ons), Systray List (updated), Resource Monitor (updated), DictationBridge (new), Golden Cursor (new), Remote Support (new), Windows 10 App Essentials (new), SentenceNav (new and used during introduction to community add-ons website).
  • GoldWave: the effects of disabling and enabling individual add-ons are demonstrated.
  • SentenceNav: brief demonstration while reading add-ons website content.
  • Systray List: no major changes except for user interface.
  • Resource Monitor: added coverage of system uptime (NVDA+Shift+7) and clarified Windows 10 release announcements for Windows version information (NVDA+Shift+6).
  • Remote Support: basics, including controlling remote computer, muting remote speech, sending clipboard data and add-on options are covered (did not cover remote braille and secure screen considerations due to time constraints).
  • Golden Cursor: covers mouse manipulation via keyboard, mouse arrows, jumping to, saving, and viewing saved mouse positions, changing mouse movement unit, toggling mouse movement restrictions, add-on options.
  • DictationBridge: basic dictation, clicking controls, key presses, installing NVDA commands for Windows Speech Recognition, performing NVDA commands via voice.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: updating add-on, emoji panel, Skype universal app.
  • Final remarks: links to NVDA users list, GitHub, and NV Access websites are provided, along with information on NVDACon.
  • It will take almost two hours to traverse all segments.

 

Last minute changes on other sections:

  • Part 1 (introduction) has seen file renames to better reflect file content.
  • Tutorial version is now 2018.1 with 2017.4 features included.
  • Introduction for part 6 (NVDA Preferences I) has been updated to say that first half of preferences will cover touch interaction.

 

Overall tutorial set statistics:

  • Total duration: slightly more than 13 hours (minus upcoming addenda).
  • Average duration per section: almost 90 minutes.
  • Average segment duration: 7 minutes.
  • Shortest section: part 1 (Introduction).
  • Longest section: part 4 (NVDA and the web).
  • Longest thematic section: NVDA preferences (parts 6 and 7, which combined runs for over three hours).

 

Up next:

  • Complete packages for parts 8 and 9 will be published, with part 9 divided into two parts. These will go up next week.
  • Addenda: two addendum recordings are planned and will go up soon.
  • The “real” complete package (a zip file) along with part 0 (changelog) will be published once NVDA 2018.1 feature set is frozen in February (for resident translators, this means shortly after start of translatable string freeze).
  • The 2015 edition of Welcome to NVDA will be removed.

 

Thank you and enjoy the tutorial set.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 


Re: Welcome to NVDA 2018: part 9 (add-ons) posted, completepackages for parts 6 and 7 (provisional)

 

Hi,

At the moment there are two planned: NVDA and Windows 10 on ARM, and NVDA as a Windows Store app. There won’t be demos, but they’ll include information people will need to know as they encounter NVDA in those situations. One of them ties into what’s coming in NVDA 2018.1, the other is from 2017.4.

 

Specifically:

  • NVDA and Windows 10 on ARM will talk about ARM processors, concept of emulation, why this development is important, and performance considerations.
  • NVDA as a Windows Store app will discuss how classic desktop apps are converted, advantages and limitations and so on.

 

Additional sections upon request… or maybe not. I’ll elaborate in February.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of kavein thran
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 7:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: part 9 (add-ons) posted, completepackages for parts 6 and 7 (provisional)

 

Hi Joseph, thanks for all the good works you’ve done. Really appreciate it so much.

 

What are the next addendums?

 

Sent from my iPhone


On 28 Jan 2018, at 7:59 AM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Hi Joseph!

Same goes with me. You will help so many, because I will recommend your tutorials on many Facebook groups, and so many people I know who are interested to have NVDA be at least their back-up screen reader.

I will really listen to all of this myself to prepare myself for certification.

Thank you for all of your time and effort to put these tutorials together in such a understandable way!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: matthew dyer
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: part 9 (add-ons) posted, completepackages for parts 6 and 7 (provisional)

 

Hi,

 

Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together.  I am planning to get a hold of this and keep it around for anyone who might be interested.  I will give all of this a listen as I think It will give me a better understanding on how this all works and will help me in teaching others who might need help.

 

Thank you again,.

 

 




On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

 

Ladies and gentlemen,

 

I’m delighted to announce the completion of component-based version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set! I’ll explain what I just said in just a moment.

 

Before I go any further, I’d like to take a moment to thank everyone for your continued support and encouragement. The last six weeks have been a challenging yet fun period. In the midst of adjusting to new semester schedule (at Cal State Los Angeles), attending speech and debate competitions, going over add-ons and dealing with NVDA translation issues, I always looked forward to today’s milestone. There are a couple things to be done (including minor edits), but for all intents and purposes, you can now use the 2018 edition of my tutorial set as a handy reference and a teaching tool when training new NVDA users.

 

Today’s milestone means:

 

  • Component-based tutorial set: as promised last year, each segment are separate mp3 files. As of today, all nine sections in the main tutorial set are done. There might be changes in February once NVDA 2018.1 nears completion (if a message changes (especially in NVDA preferences, edits will be done).
  • Usage: as a free tutorial set, anyone is welcome to use the tutorial however they wish (including possible text transcriptions, converting them into a DAISY book, citing in other tutorials, etc.).

 

Speaking of sections: the ninth (and for now, final) section of welcome to NVDA 2018 is now available. This section has gone one of the most extensive edits, as it talks about NVDA add-ons. As always, the section (and components) can be found at www.josephsl.net/tutorials.

 

Also, complete packages for parts 6 and 7 (both concerning NVDA preferences) are now available:

 

 

Note that complete packages for parts 8 and 9 aren’t up yet. They will go up along with addenda soon. Once features for NVDA 2018.1 are frozen (early February), a zip file containing complete packages, addenda, and an overall introduction and changelog (part 0) will be posted, marking the end of this project. This also means the 2015 edition will be removed from the website. Stay tuned as I’ll also be making an announcement regarding this tutorial set and others.

 

Now for the fun part:

 

Changelog for part 9 (NVDA add-ons) from 2015:

 

  • Completely redone.
  • In add-ons manager segment, added steps on how to enable or disable individual add-ons.
  • Features new and updated add-ons (some prominent, others subtle): GoldWave (updated and used to demonstrate disabling individual add-ons), Systray List (updated), Resource Monitor (updated), DictationBridge (new), Golden Cursor (new), Remote Support (new), Windows 10 App Essentials (new), SentenceNav (new and used during introduction to community add-ons website).
  • GoldWave: the effects of disabling and enabling individual add-ons are demonstrated.
  • SentenceNav: brief demonstration while reading add-ons website content.
  • Systray List: no major changes except for user interface.
  • Resource Monitor: added coverage of system uptime (NVDA+Shift+7) and clarified Windows 10 release announcements for Windows version information (NVDA+Shift+6).
  • Remote Support: basics, including controlling remote computer, muting remote speech, sending clipboard data and add-on options are covered (did not cover remote braille and secure screen considerations due to time constraints).
  • Golden Cursor: covers mouse manipulation via keyboard, mouse arrows, jumping to, saving, and viewing saved mouse positions, changing mouse movement unit, toggling mouse movement restrictions, add-on options.
  • DictationBridge: basic dictation, clicking controls, key presses, installing NVDA commands for Windows Speech Recognition, performing NVDA commands via voice.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: updating add-on, emoji panel, Skype universal app.
  • Final remarks: links to NVDA users list, GitHub, and NV Access websites are provided, along with information on NVDACon.
  • It will take almost two hours to traverse all segments.

 

Last minute changes on other sections:

  • Part 1 (introduction) has seen file renames to better reflect file content.
  • Tutorial version is now 2018.1 with 2017.4 features included.
  • Introduction for part 6 (NVDA Preferences I) has been updated to say that first half of preferences will cover touch interaction.

 

Overall tutorial set statistics:

  • Total duration: slightly more than 13 hours (minus upcoming addenda).
  • Average duration per section: almost 90 minutes.
  • Average segment duration: 7 minutes.
  • Shortest section: part 1 (Introduction).
  • Longest section: part 4 (NVDA and the web).
  • Longest thematic section: NVDA preferences (parts 6 and 7, which combined runs for over three hours).

 

Up next:

  • Complete packages for parts 8 and 9 will be published, with part 9 divided into two parts. These will go up next week.
  • Addenda: two addendum recordings are planned and will go up soon.
  • The “real” complete package (a zip file) along with part 0 (changelog) will be published once NVDA 2018.1 feature set is frozen in February (for resident translators, this means shortly after start of translatable string freeze).
  • The 2015 edition of Welcome to NVDA will be removed.

 

Thank you and enjoy the tutorial set.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 


Re: Welcome to NVDA 2018: part 9 (add-ons) posted, completepackages for parts 6 and 7 (provisional)

kavein thran
 

Hi Joseph, thanks for all the good works you’ve done. Really appreciate it so much.


What are the next addendums?

Sent from my iPhone

On 28 Jan 2018, at 7:59 AM, David Moore <jesusloves1966@...> wrote:

Hi Joseph!

Same goes with me. You will help so many, because I will recommend your tutorials on many Facebook groups, and so many people I know who are interested to have NVDA be at least their back-up screen reader.

I will really listen to all of this myself to prepare myself for certification.

Thank you for all of your time and effort to put these tutorials together in such a understandable way!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: matthew dyer
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: part 9 (add-ons) posted, completepackages for parts 6 and 7 (provisional)

 

Hi,

 

Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together.  I am planning to get a hold of this and keep it around for anyone who might be interested.  I will give all of this a listen as I think It will give me a better understanding on how this all works and will help me in teaching others who might need help.

 

Thank you again,.

 

 



On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

 

Ladies and gentlemen,

 

I’m delighted to announce the completion of component-based version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set! I’ll explain what I just said in just a moment.

 

Before I go any further, I’d like to take a moment to thank everyone for your continued support and encouragement. The last six weeks have been a challenging yet fun period. In the midst of adjusting to new semester schedule (at Cal State Los Angeles), attending speech and debate competitions, going over add-ons and dealing with NVDA translation issues, I always looked forward to today’s milestone. There are a couple things to be done (including minor edits), but for all intents and purposes, you can now use the 2018 edition of my tutorial set as a handy reference and a teaching tool when training new NVDA users.

 

Today’s milestone means:

 

  • Component-based tutorial set: as promised last year, each segment are separate mp3 files. As of today, all nine sections in the main tutorial set are done. There might be changes in February once NVDA 2018.1 nears completion (if a message changes (especially in NVDA preferences, edits will be done).
  • Usage: as a free tutorial set, anyone is welcome to use the tutorial however they wish (including possible text transcriptions, converting them into a DAISY book, citing in other tutorials, etc.).

 

Speaking of sections: the ninth (and for now, final) section of welcome to NVDA 2018 is now available. This section has gone one of the most extensive edits, as it talks about NVDA add-ons. As always, the section (and components) can be found at www.josephsl.net/tutorials.

 

Also, complete packages for parts 6 and 7 (both concerning NVDA preferences) are now available:

 

 

Note that complete packages for parts 8 and 9 aren’t up yet. They will go up along with addenda soon. Once features for NVDA 2018.1 are frozen (early February), a zip file containing complete packages, addenda, and an overall introduction and changelog (part 0) will be posted, marking the end of this project. This also means the 2015 edition will be removed from the website. Stay tuned as I’ll also be making an announcement regarding this tutorial set and others.

 

Now for the fun part:

 

Changelog for part 9 (NVDA add-ons) from 2015:

 

  • Completely redone.
  • In add-ons manager segment, added steps on how to enable or disable individual add-ons.
  • Features new and updated add-ons (some prominent, others subtle): GoldWave (updated and used to demonstrate disabling individual add-ons), Systray List (updated), Resource Monitor (updated), DictationBridge (new), Golden Cursor (new), Remote Support (new), Windows 10 App Essentials (new), SentenceNav (new and used during introduction to community add-ons website).
  • GoldWave: the effects of disabling and enabling individual add-ons are demonstrated.
  • SentenceNav: brief demonstration while reading add-ons website content.
  • Systray List: no major changes except for user interface.
  • Resource Monitor: added coverage of system uptime (NVDA+Shift+7) and clarified Windows 10 release announcements for Windows version information (NVDA+Shift+6).
  • Remote Support: basics, including controlling remote computer, muting remote speech, sending clipboard data and add-on options are covered (did not cover remote braille and secure screen considerations due to time constraints).
  • Golden Cursor: covers mouse manipulation via keyboard, mouse arrows, jumping to, saving, and viewing saved mouse positions, changing mouse movement unit, toggling mouse movement restrictions, add-on options.
  • DictationBridge: basic dictation, clicking controls, key presses, installing NVDA commands for Windows Speech Recognition, performing NVDA commands via voice.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: updating add-on, emoji panel, Skype universal app.
  • Final remarks: links to NVDA users list, GitHub, and NV Access websites are provided, along with information on NVDACon.
  • It will take almost two hours to traverse all segments.

 

Last minute changes on other sections:

  • Part 1 (introduction) has seen file renames to better reflect file content.
  • Tutorial version is now 2018.1 with 2017.4 features included.
  • Introduction for part 6 (NVDA Preferences I) has been updated to say that first half of preferences will cover touch interaction.

 

Overall tutorial set statistics:

  • Total duration: slightly more than 13 hours (minus upcoming addenda).
  • Average duration per section: almost 90 minutes.
  • Average segment duration: 7 minutes.
  • Shortest section: part 1 (Introduction).
  • Longest section: part 4 (NVDA and the web).
  • Longest thematic section: NVDA preferences (parts 6 and 7, which combined runs for over three hours).

 

Up next:

  • Complete packages for parts 8 and 9 will be published, with part 9 divided into two parts. These will go up next week.
  • Addenda: two addendum recordings are planned and will go up soon.
  • The “real” complete package (a zip file) along with part 0 (changelog) will be published once NVDA 2018.1 feature set is frozen in February (for resident translators, this means shortly after start of translatable string freeze).
  • The 2015 edition of Welcome to NVDA will be removed.

 

Thank you and enjoy the tutorial set.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 


Re: Welcome to NVDA 2018: part 9 (add-ons) posted, completepackages for parts 6 and 7 (provisional)

David Moore
 

Hi Joseph!

Same goes with me. You will help so many, because I will recommend your tutorials on many Facebook groups, and so many people I know who are interested to have NVDA be at least their back-up screen reader.

I will really listen to all of this myself to prepare myself for certification.

Thank you for all of your time and effort to put these tutorials together in such a understandable way!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: matthew dyer
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Welcome to NVDA 2018: part 9 (add-ons) posted, completepackages for parts 6 and 7 (provisional)

 

Hi,

 

Thank you so much for taking the time to put this together.  I am planning to get a hold of this and keep it around for anyone who might be interested.  I will give all of this a listen as I think It will give me a better understanding on how this all works and will help me in teaching others who might need help.

 

Thank you again,.

 

 



On Jan 27, 2018, at 1:46 PM, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

 

Ladies and gentlemen,

 

I’m delighted to announce the completion of component-based version of Welcome to NVDA 2018 tutorial set! I’ll explain what I just said in just a moment.

 

Before I go any further, I’d like to take a moment to thank everyone for your continued support and encouragement. The last six weeks have been a challenging yet fun period. In the midst of adjusting to new semester schedule (at Cal State Los Angeles), attending speech and debate competitions, going over add-ons and dealing with NVDA translation issues, I always looked forward to today’s milestone. There are a couple things to be done (including minor edits), but for all intents and purposes, you can now use the 2018 edition of my tutorial set as a handy reference and a teaching tool when training new NVDA users.

 

Today’s milestone means:

 

  • Component-based tutorial set: as promised last year, each segment are separate mp3 files. As of today, all nine sections in the main tutorial set are done. There might be changes in February once NVDA 2018.1 nears completion (if a message changes (especially in NVDA preferences, edits will be done).
  • Usage: as a free tutorial set, anyone is welcome to use the tutorial however they wish (including possible text transcriptions, converting them into a DAISY book, citing in other tutorials, etc.).

 

Speaking of sections: the ninth (and for now, final) section of welcome to NVDA 2018 is now available. This section has gone one of the most extensive edits, as it talks about NVDA add-ons. As always, the section (and components) can be found at www.josephsl.net/tutorials.

 

Also, complete packages for parts 6 and 7 (both concerning NVDA preferences) are now available:

 

 

Note that complete packages for parts 8 and 9 aren’t up yet. They will go up along with addenda soon. Once features for NVDA 2018.1 are frozen (early February), a zip file containing complete packages, addenda, and an overall introduction and changelog (part 0) will be posted, marking the end of this project. This also means the 2015 edition will be removed from the website. Stay tuned as I’ll also be making an announcement regarding this tutorial set and others.

 

Now for the fun part:

 

Changelog for part 9 (NVDA add-ons) from 2015:

 

  • Completely redone.
  • In add-ons manager segment, added steps on how to enable or disable individual add-ons.
  • Features new and updated add-ons (some prominent, others subtle): GoldWave (updated and used to demonstrate disabling individual add-ons), Systray List (updated), Resource Monitor (updated), DictationBridge (new), Golden Cursor (new), Remote Support (new), Windows 10 App Essentials (new), SentenceNav (new and used during introduction to community add-ons website).
  • GoldWave: the effects of disabling and enabling individual add-ons are demonstrated.
  • SentenceNav: brief demonstration while reading add-ons website content.
  • Systray List: no major changes except for user interface.
  • Resource Monitor: added coverage of system uptime (NVDA+Shift+7) and clarified Windows 10 release announcements for Windows version information (NVDA+Shift+6).
  • Remote Support: basics, including controlling remote computer, muting remote speech, sending clipboard data and add-on options are covered (did not cover remote braille and secure screen considerations due to time constraints).
  • Golden Cursor: covers mouse manipulation via keyboard, mouse arrows, jumping to, saving, and viewing saved mouse positions, changing mouse movement unit, toggling mouse movement restrictions, add-on options.
  • DictationBridge: basic dictation, clicking controls, key presses, installing NVDA commands for Windows Speech Recognition, performing NVDA commands via voice.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: updating add-on, emoji panel, Skype universal app.
  • Final remarks: links to NVDA users list, GitHub, and NV Access websites are provided, along with information on NVDACon.
  • It will take almost two hours to traverse all segments.

 

Last minute changes on other sections:

  • Part 1 (introduction) has seen file renames to better reflect file content.
  • Tutorial version is now 2018.1 with 2017.4 features included.
  • Introduction for part 6 (NVDA Preferences I) has been updated to say that first half of preferences will cover touch interaction.

 

Overall tutorial set statistics:

  • Total duration: slightly more than 13 hours (minus upcoming addenda).
  • Average duration per section: almost 90 minutes.
  • Average segment duration: 7 minutes.
  • Shortest section: part 1 (Introduction).
  • Longest section: part 4 (NVDA and the web).
  • Longest thematic section: NVDA preferences (parts 6 and 7, which combined runs for over three hours).

 

Up next:

  • Complete packages for parts 8 and 9 will be published, with part 9 divided into two parts. These will go up next week.
  • Addenda: two addendum recordings are planned and will go up soon.
  • The “real” complete package (a zip file) along with part 0 (changelog) will be published once NVDA 2018.1 feature set is frozen in February (for resident translators, this means shortly after start of translatable string freeze).
  • The 2015 edition of Welcome to NVDA will be removed.

 

Thank you and enjoy the tutorial set.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 


Re: code factory Eloquence for NVDA

bob jutzi <jutzi1@...>
 

Using the belink, I was able to download and install the trial; however, there doesn't seem to be a way to change to a specific Eloquence voice. I think the default is Reed; however, it's at a higher pitch than I'm used to.

On 1/27/2018 5:37 PM, Kevin wrote:
But the reason I email, is because I don’t use the phone!
Not everyone enjoys using the telephone
Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee
*From: *Sarah k Alawami <mailto:marrie12@gmail.com>
*Sent: *Saturday, January 27, 2018 2:06 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] code factory Eloquence for NVDA
I have had nothing but good experiences wiht them. I ordered somethingn from them and had some issues, I called them back and they helped me resolve the thing in a few monutes,
Take care
On Jan 27, 2018, at 11:28 AM, ely.r@comcast.net
<mailto:ely.r@comcast.net> wrote:
I had the same phone experience. They are small and do training that
takes them away from the store operation. Leave a phone message and
tell them you have been trying to reach them. When you were taken to
PayPal, there should have been a link to sign in. I did this months
ago but had no problems with PayPal.
Dr. Rick Ely
TVI, Vision Consultant
451 Rocky Hill Road
Florence, MA 01062
&413() 727-3038
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io]*On Behalf
Of*Kevin
*Sent:*Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:50 PM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] code factory Eloquence for NVDA
I’m using IE 11
I did find the paypal link but it was labeled Money order.
When I pressed that paypal prompted me to create an account. I
already have an account.
Plus they don’t answer when someone contacts them!
Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee
*From:*Sarah k Alawami <mailto:marrie12@gmail.com>
*Sent:*Saturday, January 27, 2018 9:20 AM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] code factory Eloquence for NVDA
Are you sure? I'm aboe to order from there a lot. It's very
accessible to me. Are we sure this is just a browser having a bad day?
On Jan 27, 2018, at 8:26 AM, Kevin <kleeva5@gmail.com
<mailto:kleeva5@gmail.com>> wrote:
AT Guys is not accessible, the first time I tried to check out
the site drove me around in circles. The second time I could
not find paypal, I found out it was money order. I chose that
and paypal prompted me to create an account. I already have an
account. AT Guys sucks!
Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee
*From:*Edhoari Setiyoso <mailto:edhoari.s@gmail.com>
*Sent:*Thursday, January 25, 2018 7:01 PM
*To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:*Re: [nvda] code factory Eloquence for NVDA
Hi,
I bought a copy of CF through this online shop using Paypal
http://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=231
They will send license key to our email after payment verification.
Best Regards
Edhoari Setiyoso
On 01/26/2018 09:13 AM, Kevin wrote:
Anyone know if it can be bought using paypal, after I
installed it then pressed buy all it displays is visa or
master card. When I contacted code factory they said they
accept paypal so just select paypal in the payment option. I don’t see an option to use paypal unless it’s somewhere else!
Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee


Re: code factory Eloquence for NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

I actually can't remember, did you try AtGuys as their website is accessible and I had no problems wit it at all. I was able to pay with pay pal.

On Jan 27, 2018, at 2:37 PM, Kevin <kleeva5@...> wrote:

But the reason I email, is because I don’t use the phone!
Not everyone enjoys using the telephone
 
Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee
 
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 2:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] code factory Eloquence for NVDA
 
I have had nothing but good experiences with them. I ordered something from them and had some issues, I called them back and they helped me resolve the thing in a few monutes,
 
Take care


On Jan 27, 2018, at 11:28 AM, ely.r@... wrote:
 
I had the same phone experience. They are small and do training that takes them away from the store operation. Leave a phone message and tell them you have been trying to reach them. When you were taken to PayPal, there should have been a link to sign in. I did this months ago but had no problems with PayPal. 
 
Dr. Rick Ely 
TVI, Vision Consultant 
451 Rocky Hill Road 
Florence, MA 01062
&413()  727-3038 
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] code factory Eloquence for NVDA
 
I’m using IE 11
I did find the paypal link but it was labeled Money order.
When I pressed that paypal prompted me to create an account.  I already have an account.
Plus they don’t answer when someone contacts them!
 
Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee
 
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 9:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] code factory Eloquence for NVDA
 
Are you sure? I'm aboe to order from there a lot. It's very accessible to me. Are we sure this is just a browser having a bad day?
 
On Jan 27, 2018, at 8:26 AM, Kevin <kleeva5@...> wrote:
 
AT Guys is not accessible, the first time I tried to check out the site drove me around in circles.  The second time I could not find paypal, I found out it was money order.  I chose that and paypal prompted me to create an account.  I already have an account.  AT Guys sucks!
 
Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee
 
From: Edhoari Setiyoso
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] code factory Eloquence for NVDA
 

Hi,

I bought a copy of CF through this online shop using Paypal
http://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=231

They will send license key to our email after payment verification.

Best Regards


Edhoari Setiyoso
On 01/26/2018 09:13 AM, Kevin wrote:
Anyone know if it can be bought using paypal, after I installed it then pressed buy all it displays is visa or master card.  When I contacted code factory they said they accept paypal so just select paypal in the payment option.  I don’t see an option to use paypal unless it’s somewhere else!
 
Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee
 
 
 
 
 
 

 


Re: code factory Eloquence for NVDA

Kevin <kleeva5@...>
 

But the reason I email, is because I don’t use the phone!

Not everyone enjoys using the telephone

 

Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 2:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] code factory Eloquence for NVDA

 

I have had nothing but good experiences wiht them. I ordered somethingn from them and had some issues, I called them back and they helped me resolve the thing in a few monutes,

 

Take care



On Jan 27, 2018, at 11:28 AM, ely.r@... wrote:

 

I had the same phone experience. They are small and do training that takes them away from the store operation. Leave a phone message and tell them you have been trying to reach them. When you were taken to PayPal, there should have been a link to sign in. I did this months ago but had no problems with PayPal. 

 

Dr. Rick Ely 

TVI, Vision Consultant 

451 Rocky Hill Road 

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kevin
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] code factory Eloquence for NVDA

 

I’m using IE 11

I did find the paypal link but it was labeled Money order.

When I pressed that paypal prompted me to create an account.  I already have an account.

Plus they don’t answer when someone contacts them!

 

Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 9:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] code factory Eloquence for NVDA

 

Are you sure? I'm aboe to order from there a lot. It's very accessible to me. Are we sure this is just a browser having a bad day?

 

On Jan 27, 2018, at 8:26 AM, Kevin <kleeva5@...> wrote:

 

AT Guys is not accessible, the first time I tried to check out the site drove me around in circles.  The second time I could not find paypal, I found out it was money order.  I chose that and paypal prompted me to create an account.  I already have an account.  AT Guys sucks!

 

Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee

 

From: Edhoari Setiyoso
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] code factory Eloquence for NVDA

 

Hi,

I bought a copy of CF through this online shop using Paypal
http://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=231

They will send license key to our email after payment verification.

Best Regards


Edhoari Setiyoso

On 01/26/2018 09:13 AM, Kevin wrote:

Anyone know if it can be bought using paypal, after I installed it then pressed buy all it displays is visa or master card.  When I contacted code factory they said they accept paypal so just select paypal in the payment option.  I don’t see an option to use paypal unless it’s somewhere else!

 

Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee