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Re: NVDA and Amazon

Kevin <kleeva5@...>
 

Try pressing the return/enter key

 

Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee

 

From: Ron Edwards via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 8:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Amazon

 

Hi all.

 

 

Do Any of you kind people use the above?  I can't even sign in. There is

a sign in button but when I press Return the space bar as I usually

would, nothing happends.

 

 

Any help appreciated.

 

 

Ron

 

 

 

 


NVDA and Amazon

Ron Edwards <facup1927@...>
 

Hi all.


Do Any of you kind people use the above?  I can't even sign in. There is a sign in button but when I press Return the space bar as I usually would, nothing happends.


Any help appreciated.


Ron


Re: code factory Eloquence for NVDA

Kevin <kleeva5@...>
 

AT Guys is not accessible, the first time I tried to check out the site drove me around in circles.  The second time I could not find paypal, I found out it was money order.  I chose that and paypal prompted me to create an account.  I already have an account.  AT Guys sucks!

 

Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee

 

From: Edhoari Setiyoso
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 7:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] code factory Eloquence for NVDA

 

Hi,

I bought a copy of CF through this online shop using Paypal
http://www.atguys.com/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=20&products_id=231

They will send license key to our email after payment verification.

Best Regards

Edhoari Setiyoso

On 01/26/2018 09:13 AM, Kevin wrote:

Anyone know if it can be bought using paypal, after I installed it then pressed buy all it displays is visa or master card.  When I contacted code factory they said they accept paypal so just select paypal in the payment option.  I don’t see an option to use paypal unless it’s somewhere else!

 

Email is golden !!!
Kevin Lee

 

 

 


Re: FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

David Mehler
 

Hello,

Thanks Gene for your answer to my unasked question, which would have
been how do you use sites with captchas (personally I think they are a
bad idea), and your solution will work for me and a friend of mine.

Thanks.
Dave.

On 1/27/18, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
It's your privilege to boycott such sites and to not use Webvism. Why are
you cutting off your nose to spite your face? Of course this system of spam
elimination has been cracked. it's been cracked since Webvism came out.
That doesn't make Webvism useless. Webvism can be used if you use a
portable version of Firefox, 52 or lower, and these days, 52 ESR would be
the one to use because it's still secure and works with the plugin, and the
regular version of Firefox if you want to use the regular one during this
time, for other browsing. You could use the ESR version for everything if
you want. You would use the portable version for sites you need Webvism for
and the other version otherwise. I very seldom use sites that have
captchas. But I'm not going to throw away a perfectly good tool for no
reason.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

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Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 3:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers


Yes I gave up on it and now boycott clueless sites that still pretend its of

any use for security, since it seems many of those sites still get spammers

somebody somewhere has cracked it quite obviously.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "JM Casey" <crystallogic@ca.inter.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 5:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers


HI.

Am I correct in thinking Webvism will be completely useless with Firefox 58?

Not that I'm getting much use of it right now with FF 52 ESR. In fact, it
doesn't appear to really do anything, least of all solve capshas. :)









Re: practice typing word

特種兵
 

About my name is blank, because maybe that is Chinese.
  anyway, letter's end always has my English name too.

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan

Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io 於 2018/1/27 下午 05:26 寫道:

Incidentally, your name seems to be blank on messages to this list. Could be a character set thing.
As for typing. Can you not just use one of the normal phrases and see how much  of a mess you make. I learned to touch type late in life and am always messing up, particularly on  laptop keyboards.
You know.
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog type of stuff.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "特種兵" <afreettears@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] practice typing word


Thanks
 But this looks like too professional
 I just need a software to practice basic typing
 Because most of the software like this use a flash like interface or
technology
 Making the use of guide software can not be successfully accessible
 If anyone can use it, then I can test it without having to download
it one by one
 Without software, I think web pages are acceptable
 Thanks for your recommendation

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan

tonea.ctr.morrow@faa.gov 於 2018/1/25 下午 11:45 寫道:

I looked through browser results, but found either templates, word
processors, or typing tutors. If you are looking to improve your
typing speed in English, you would want a typing tutor and there are
many. Likewise, there are many word processors that offer templates
for writing different types of documents.

If, however, you are looking for a software program that teaches the
basic formats for different types of letters that you would write to
other people, I think that has gone the way of the 1980’s. There are
websites, seminars and classes, but not much in software packages. I
only found one.

Merrit Software offers this one:

https://www.meritsoftware.com/software/business_letter_punch_online/index.php

This is not an endorsement, just information on what I found.

Tonea

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 7:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] practice typing word

Hi all,

Is there any software can be used to practice playing English letters

It is better to use software than web pages

Then nvda can be accessible

Thanks for the offer

--

thank you for much

Logo Kuo from Taiwan



Re: FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

Gene
 

It's your privilege to boycott such sites and to not use Webvism.  Why are you cutting off your nose to spite your face?  Of course this system of spam elimination has been cracked.  it's been cracked since Webvism came out.  That doesn't make Webvism useless.  Webvism can be used if you use a portable version of Firefox, 52 or lower, and these days, 52 ESR would be the one to use because it's still secure and works with the plugin, and the regular version of Firefox if you want to use the regular one during this time, for other browsing.  You could use the ESR version for everything if you want.  You would use the portable version for sites you need Webvism for and the other version otherwise.  I very seldom use sites that have captchas.  But I'm not going to throw away a perfectly good tool for no reason. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 3:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

Yes I gave up on it and now boycott clueless sites that still pretend its of
any use for security, since it seems many of those sites still get spammers
somebody somewhere has cracked it quite obviously.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "JM Casey" <crystallogic@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 5:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers


HI.

Am I correct in thinking Webvism will be completely useless with Firefox 58?
Not that I'm getting much use of it right now with FF 52 ESR. In fact, it
doesn't appear to really do anything, least of all solve capshas. :)









Re: Firefox odd one

Gene
 

The ESR version doesn't update to a regular version of the program.  The point of the ESR is to provide security updates and leave the actual program the same for a year.  Hence the description, extended release.  It will upgraqde to the next enxtended realease version whn it becomes available. 
 
If you are behind, running an old version, it is common to have to update to an intermediate version, then you immediately update again.  You will then have the current version. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 3:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox odd one

You will probably find that as the esr came out after yours even though it
has an earlier number they have stopped it from updating to58. I had a
similar issue from 54 to 57. Personally I'd try to go back to 52 and allow
it to update the ESR to the latest fixes. I find this version works great
and none of the drawbacks you get in the new Quantum interface system.
 I'm sure they will fix it, but although 58 is actually working mostly,
those who read hear will know the problems I still have with its design and
usability. If none of this matters simply download the latest 58 version and
see what you think. Apart from having to reinstall add ons if you go back
nothing else gets lost.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 5:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] Firefox odd one


>I just checked for a Firefox update and was told it wanted to upgrade from
>54 to 56 but NOT to 58.  Why is it doing that if 58 is now a stable
>release?  I don't want to get the one that isn't working right with screen
>readers.
>
>
> Thanks.
>
>
> Roger
>
>
>
>
>




Re: How to copy without losing Text styles?

Gene
 

Try it and see.  I would think its actions would be identical to copying anything to the clipboard.  But why does it matter?  It is intended for use in areas were you can't copy the regular way, such as where there is no cursor.  Copying an error message in a dialog is an example, or the name of a file in the Windows Explorer list. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 10:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to copy without losing Text styles?

hello.
does using copy with nvda f9 and f10, preserve formatting and style?

On 1/26/18, Shasa <shasa@...> wrote:
> Unfortunately, what you say is not happening.
> 26/01/2018 21:13 tarihinde David Griffith yazdı:
>>
>> I think these instructions will apply to all versions of Word though I
>> use word 2010.
>>
>>  1. Select and copy the text from the web page.
>>  2. Now go to Word and where you want to paste in the text hit the
>>     application key.
>>  3. Cursor down to Paste options and then right arrow to the option
>>     which includes something like retain source formatting and press
>>     enter.
>>
>> Hopefully that will give you a better result.
>>
>> David Griffith
>>
>> My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
>> http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
>> My Blind hammer Blog
>> https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts
>>
>> *From: *Shasa <mailto:shasa@...>
>> *Sent: *26 January 2018 16:26
>> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> *Subject: *[nvda] How to copy without losing Text styles?
>>
>> Greetings from friends,
>>
>> When we copy from files such as Microsoft Word Document, the text
>> remains the same.
>> But when I copy a contents from the web page, the heads and images in
>> the text and  format disappear.
>> I use the Shift + Down arrow keys to make a copy. I choose the text.
>> Then copy it with Ctrl + C.
>>
>> What should I do to make a smooth copy?
>>
>>
>
>


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Re: practice typing word

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Incidentally, your name seems to be blank on messages to this list. Could be a character set thing.
As for typing. Can you not just use one of the normal phrases and see how much of a mess you make. I learned to touch type late in life and am always messing up, particularly on laptop keyboards.
You know.
The quick brown fox jumped over the lazy dog type of stuff.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "特種兵" <afreettears@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] practice typing word


Thanks
But this looks like too professional
I just need a software to practice basic typing
Because most of the software like this use a flash like interface or
technology
Making the use of guide software can not be successfully accessible
If anyone can use it, then I can test it without having to download
it one by one
Without software, I think web pages are acceptable
Thanks for your recommendation

thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan

tonea.ctr.morrow@faa.gov 於 2018/1/25 下午 11:45 寫道:

I looked through browser results, but found either templates, word
processors, or typing tutors. If you are looking to improve your
typing speed in English, you would want a typing tutor and there are
many. Likewise, there are many word processors that offer templates
for writing different types of documents.

If, however, you are looking for a software program that teaches the
basic formats for different types of letters that you would write to
other people, I think that has gone the way of the 1980’s. There are
websites, seminars and classes, but not much in software packages. I
only found one.

Merrit Software offers this one:

https://www.meritsoftware.com/software/business_letter_punch_online/index.php

This is not an endorsement, just information on what I found.

Tonea

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 7:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] practice typing word

Hi all,

Is there any software can be used to practice playing English letters

It is better to use software than web pages

Then nvda can be accessible

Thanks for the offer

--

thank you for much

Logo Kuo from Taiwan


Re: FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

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Yes exactly, you cannot cursor around if you have had a download spree there is a list of the files in there, when I press up and down I get unknown.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Mendoza" <lowvisiontek@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers


Yes, it reads or report the progress bar status but the name of the file you've been dll is not announced. that is the bug that need to be fix. Not unless in the earlier version you have at least a guide to know about what file you are downloading.


Robert Mendoza

On 1/27/2018 7:40 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Yes the dl dialogue speaks for me. I just throw it to the side and check my dl folder after about 2 minutes as I'm on a fast connection over here so for me it is no big deal.

On Jan 26, 2018, at 8:02 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

How do you find it on pages that refresh though? Also does the download dialogue speak for you?
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers


Hi, Pascal,



I'm really amazed at how fast FF 58 is. I'm thinking of making it my default browser too.



Rosemarie







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 6:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers



Hi All,

Till two days ago, I was very frustrated with Firefox. Wow, FF58 solved all of them and today I am surfing beautifully with Firefox like never before. I made it again my default.

Blessings

Pascal





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers



Same with me!

I am using NVDA latest master development snapshot,

And it works really well with Firefox 58. I am accessing so many programs, apps, and browsers with NVDA verses JAWS. JAWS is getting way behind. NVDA works much better in Edge, for example. I really want to show my gratitude for all you do.

I just tried the News app with JAWS 2018 and NVDA, and NVDA works much better. I am using NVDA more and more to do just what I want to do.

Also, NVDA lets me know, in the mail app, as I type, when I made a spelling mistake. I can just press Shift+F10 to correct it.

That is beautiful.

David Moore

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Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 8:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers



Respected friends, as you are well aware that Mozilla has updated its browser FF58 on January 23rd 2018 as it promised!

I’m very much delighted to let you know that NVDA is well a head of all screen reader regarding the use of FF58.

The matter of fact is that I have JAWS 18.4530, JAWS 2018.1712.54, narrator and NVDA 2017.4.

I have tested FF58 with all of them and I found out that Fire Fox 58 is working the best with NVDA 2017.4.

I really couldn’t understand that even then Freedomscientific/VFO is charging hundreds and thousands of US Dollars from visually challenged people and from different agencies which are helping visually challenged people, why they haven’t come up with JAWS update before releasing of Fire Fox 58!

This fundamental question is enough to convince those people and agencies which are giving hundreds and thousands of Dollars to Freedomscientific/VFo, should donate a hand some amount of money to NVAccess as well so it can work for the betterment of visually challenged people better than before!

In short all I can say is “East and west, NVDA is the best”

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

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Re: FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

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Strange, could not get it to work in windows 7, but who knows.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 11:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers


Yes the dl dialogue speaks for me. I just throw it to the side and check my dl folder after about 2 minutes as I'm on a fast connection over here so for me it is no big deal.

On Jan 26, 2018, at 8:02 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

How do you find it on pages that refresh though? Also does the download dialogue speak for you?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 12:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers


Hi, Pascal,



I'm really amazed at how fast FF 58 is. I'm thinking of making it my default browser too.



Rosemarie







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 6:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers



Hi All,

Till two days ago, I was very frustrated with Firefox. Wow, FF58 solved all of them and today I am surfing beautifully with Firefox like never before. I made it again my default.

Blessings

Pascal





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 9:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers



Same with me!

I am using NVDA latest master development snapshot,

And it works really well with Firefox 58. I am accessing so many programs, apps, and browsers with NVDA verses JAWS. JAWS is getting way behind. NVDA works much better in Edge, for example. I really want to show my gratitude for all you do.

I just tried the News app with JAWS 2018 and NVDA, and NVDA works much better. I am using NVDA more and more to do just what I want to do.

Also, NVDA lets me know, in the mail app, as I type, when I made a spelling mistake. I can just press Shift+F10 to correct it.

That is beautiful.

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10



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Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2018 8:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers



Respected friends, as you are well aware that Mozilla has updated its browser FF58 on January 23rd 2018 as it promised!

I’m very much delighted to let you know that NVDA is well a head of all screen reader regarding the use of FF58.

The matter of fact is that I have JAWS 18.4530, JAWS 2018.1712.54, narrator and NVDA 2017.4.

I have tested FF58 with all of them and I found out that Fire Fox 58 is working the best with NVDA 2017.4.

I really couldn’t understand that even then Freedomscientific/VFO is charging hundreds and thousands of US Dollars from visually challenged people and from different agencies which are helping visually challenged people, why they haven’t come up with JAWS update before releasing of Fire Fox 58!

This fundamental question is enough to convince those people and agencies which are giving hundreds and thousands of Dollars to Freedomscientific/VFo, should donate a hand some amount of money to NVAccess as well so it can work for the betterment of visually challenged people better than before!

In short all I can say is “East and west, NVDA is the best”

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1





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Re: A weird problem with NVDA

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Can you take the machine back to before the problem started at all?
I nearly always set up a restore point manually when I do any new install.

It definitely sounds like the missing dll issue we have seen before, but maybe its actually missing this time or changed in some way so it won't work even when registered.
What anti virus are you using, and are any other bits of software affected other than those which work with html?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 8:01 PM
Subject: [nvda] A weird problem with NVDA


Hi: I'm new to this list so thought I'd throw out my problem for your consideration. As of a little over a week ago, NVDA stopped reading web pages-with any browser-; doesn't read context menus; start menus and taskbars; the bodies of emails-both received and written-; things in my control panel. It does read my desktop and system tray and folder lists. I have uninstalled and reinstalled it. I have done the thing suggested on the tutorials list to re-register the dl files. I am using windows 10 64-bit fall creator's edition. NVDA didn't have any problem with any updates. the only thing I installed recently was a dictionary program that turned out not to work with Windows 10. It just says :unknown" or is silent. I'm using a different screen reader to write this.Any suggestions?


Re: displaying file information in folders

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In 10 it says something like make all folders of this type look the same. However of this type seems to be the problem!
Brian

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Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] displaying file information in folders


Hi Gene and anyone else interested,

Thanks. Itr's so weird as some folders are displaying the way I want and
others are not. If anyone here knows how to make this universal for all
folders, please help as I just don't remember? I can't even find details
other than a check box, which I have checked.


On 1/26/2018 1:10 PM, Gene wrote:
Change to details view for how files are displayed. If you don't
remember how, ask here. I'm not sure how the interface is set up in
Windows 10 but you get to the setting somewhat differently, as far as
I know.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Lisa P Geibel <mailto:lisapgeibel429@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Friday, January 26, 2018 11:49 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* [nvda] displaying file information in folders

Hi,

Thanks to all for help with the TBird addon. It's done and now I'm back
with another issue that I should know since I've done it before. I've
looked in the control panel and in different folders in the view tab,
but can't seem to find how to make it tell me when right arrowing on a
file the name, file type and so on. Can anyone please help with this and
sorry for all the questions, but it's been so long since I've done this,
I just don't remember.


On 1/26/2018 12:14 PM, JM Casey wrote:
HI.

Am I correct in thinking Webvism will be completely useless with
Firefox 58? Not that I'm getting much use of it right now with FF 52
ESR. In fact, it doesn't appear to really do anything, least of all
solve capshas. :)





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Re: FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

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Actually, it seems to be around 48, the last time that add on worked according to a friend.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 6:08 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers


You can use an older portable version of Firefox with Webvisum only on sites you need it for. You can use the current version you would already have for general browsing. And this is not related to the new versions of Firefox. Firefox made some security changes after version 52 that made it not work with many plugins, including Webvism.

Gene.
----- Original Message -----

From: bob jutzi
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 11:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers


If Webvisum is no longer an option, what other choices exist for solving
Captias?

On 1/26/2018 12:41 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Ok, cheers. Well, good riddence.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Dennis L
*Sent:* January 26, 2018 12:26 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

Yes you are

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On January 26, 2018 12:14:57 PM "JM Casey" <crystallogic@ca.inter.net
<mailto:crystallogic@ca.inter.net>> wrote:

HI.

Am I correct in thinking Webvism will be completely useless with
Firefox 58? Not that I'm getting much use of it right now with FF 52
ESR. In fact, it doesn't appear to really do anything, least of all
solve capshas. :)


Re: displaying file information in folders

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Which version of Windows?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lisa P Geibel" <lisapgeibel429@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 5:49 PM
Subject: [nvda] displaying file information in folders


Hi,

Thanks to all for help with the TBird addon. It's done and now I'm back with another issue that I should know since I've done it before. I've looked in the control panel and in different folders in the view tab, but can't seem to find how to make it tell me when right arrowing on a file the name, file type and so on. Can anyone please help with this and sorry for all the questions, but it's been so long since I've done this, I just don't remember.


On 1/26/2018 12:14 PM, JM Casey wrote:
HI.

Am I correct in thinking Webvism will be completely useless with Firefox 58? Not that I'm getting much use of it right now with FF 52 ESR. In fact, it doesn't appear to really do anything, least of all solve capshas. :)




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Re: FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

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Really, the one I saw was glitchy and sounded like an Indian with polish accent speaking English.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "JM Casey" <crystallogic@ca.inter.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 5:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers


I don't know. Some people apparently use an app on their phones with an
actual person on the other end. Seems excessive to me. The audio ones really
do seem to be getting better. I was pleasantly surprised when I signed up to
ImDB the other week.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of bob
jutzi
Sent: January 26, 2018 12:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

If Webvisum is no longer an option, what other choices exist for solving
Captias?

On 1/26/2018 12:41 PM, JM Casey wrote:
Ok, cheers. Well, good riddence.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of
*Dennis L
*Sent:* January 26, 2018 12:26 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

Yes you are

Sent from my Android phone using Aqua Mail

On January 26, 2018 12:14:57 PM "JM Casey" <crystallogic@ca.inter.net
<mailto:crystallogic@ca.inter.net>> wrote:

HI.

Am I correct in thinking Webvism will be completely useless with
Firefox 58? Not that I'm getting much use of it right now with FF 52
ESR. In fact, it doesn't appear to really do anything, least of all
solve capshas. :)






Re: FireFox 58 And Screen Readers

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Yes I gave up on it and now boycott clueless sites that still pretend its of any use for security, since it seems many of those sites still get spammers somebody somewhere has cracked it quite obviously.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "JM Casey" <crystallogic@ca.inter.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 5:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] FireFox 58 And Screen Readers


HI.

Am I correct in thinking Webvism will be completely useless with Firefox 58? Not that I'm getting much use of it right now with FF 52 ESR. In fact, it doesn't appear to really do anything, least of all solve capshas. :)


Re: Firefox odd one

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You will probably find that as the esr came out after yours even though it has an earlier number they have stopped it from updating to58. I had a similar issue from 54 to 57. Personally I'd try to go back to 52 and allow it to update the ESR to the latest fixes. I find this version works great and none of the drawbacks you get in the new Quantum interface system.
I'm sure they will fix it, but although 58 is actually working mostly, those who read hear will know the problems I still have with its design and usability. If none of this matters simply download the latest 58 version and see what you think. Apart from having to reinstall add ons if you go back nothing else gets lost.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 5:04 PM
Subject: [nvda] Firefox odd one


I just checked for a Firefox update and was told it wanted to upgrade from 54 to 56 but NOT to 58. Why is it doing that if 58 is now a stable release? I don't want to get the one that isn't working right with screen readers.


Thanks.


Roger




Re: navigating between frames

The Gamages
 

Hello Zarah,

That works a treat, thank you very much.



Best Regards, Jim.

-----Original Message-----
From: zahra
Sent: Saturday, January 27, 2018 4:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] navigating between frames

hello.
single letter navigation is not supported in libreoffice.
but try press f5 and select the third item which is text frame.
if nvda says, collapse just you can expand it, using down arrow to
find your desire and press enter to activate it.
hope that help, God bless you all.

On 1/26/18, The Gamages <james.gamage@btinternet.com> wrote:
Hello Ollie,
##############thank you for that, unfortunately it doesn't work here,
these are obviously not normal frames, although NVDA anounces them as
such when the mouse is positioned over them.



Best Regards, Jim.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mallard
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 3:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] navigating between frames

Hello,


I don't know whether this would apply here, but the single-letter
command for frames is m and shift+m respectively, to move forward and
backward one frame at a time.


hth,

Ciao,

Ollie





Il 26/01/2018 14:07, The Gamages ha scritto:
Hello,
I am experimenting with labels in Libre office writer, I have a sheet
of labels on screen, NVDA announces these as frames, I can’t see the
screen but I can use the physical mouse and NVDA announces the number
of the frame, left clicking gets me into the frame and I can type
into
it and read it back.
The problem, is using keyboard shortcuts to go between these frrames,
does anyone know of the shortcut to navigate between frames?
Any comments would be appreciated.
Best Regards, Jim.







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Re: practice typing word

Kevin <kleeva5@...>
 

Try typing talking tuter

http://tech.aph.org/tt_info.htm

 

Email is golden !!!
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From: 特種兵
Sent: Friday, January 26, 2018 8:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] practice typing word

 

  Thanks
  But this looks like too professional
  I just need a software to practice basic typing
  Because most of the software like this use a flash like interface or technology
  Making the use of guide software can not be successfully accessible
  If anyone can use it, then I can test it without having to download it one by one
  Without software, I think web pages are acceptable
  Thanks for your recommendation


thank you for much
Logo Kuo from Taiwan

tonea.ctr.morrow@... 2018/1/25 下午 11:45 寫道:

I looked through browser results, but found either templates, word processors, or typing tutors. If you are looking to improve your typing speed in English, you would want a typing tutor and there are many. Likewise, there are many word processors that offer templates for writing different types of documents.

 

If, however, you are looking for a software program that teaches the basic formats for different types of letters that you would write to other people, I think that has gone the way of the 1980’s. There are websites, seminars and classes, but not much in software packages. I only found one.

Merrit Software offers this one:

https://www.meritsoftware.com/software/business_letter_punch_online/index.php

This is not an endorsement, just information on what I found.

 

Tonea

 

-----Original Message-----
Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2018 7:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] practice typing word

Hi all,

 

  Is there any software can be used to practice playing English letters

  It is better to use software than web pages

  Then nvda can be accessible

  Thanks for the offer

 

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thank you for much

Logo Kuo from Taiwan