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Re: I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

David Moore
 

That is interesting, Brian!

I do use snooze a lot, but I do have a SSD System drive as you said.

I should just shut the computer down, because it does boot so fast, as you said!

Take care.

David Moore

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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 4:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

I find that this weird problem and usually context menus as well has been

part of windows since at least XP. Its quite rare but often follows a lot of

work with audio editing and multiple windows being open, or if you don't

shut the computer down an use snooze standby or similar a lot.

If like me you have an SSd as the system drive then using these methods to

get fast booting is not really needed anny more.

Brian

 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:45 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

 

Hi guys!

I feel so stupid.

NVDA works fine in the start menu now!

From now on, I will restart my computer.

Thanks guys, NVDA works great in the start menu now!

David Moore

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Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Do you know which version of nvda last worked for you? There has been a very

recent change to the  search part of that area to fix an issue in windows 7.

Brian

 

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Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:16 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

 

Hi Joseph!

I tried restarting NVDA, tried, disabling all add ons, tried disabling all

add ons except for Win10 apps, and so on, and NVDA does nothing in the start

area!

David Moore

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From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:47 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi,

When something like this happens, try the usual troubleshooting steps,

starting with restarting NVDA to see if fixes this. If not fixed, talk to me

on the list so we can troubleshoot this.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David

Moore

Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:39 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi all!

I am running Win10 1709.

I downloaded the latest master development version of NVDA:

Master 14785

I have the latest development version of Win10 apps assentials:

When I press the Windows key, NVDA will not bring up results when I search,

and NVDA will not do anything, in the start area, when I try to tab to the

mike, to the all apps, or any of that. I have to do object navigation in

there, and that does not work well.

I just thought all of you would like to know, and if any of you have noticed

this behavior in the start area with these latest development versions.

Take care, all!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Issues About Skim Reading Filed on GitHub

 

hi.
i am interested in this topic.
i always use say all and also skim reading!
but for me too, character and word navigation, interrupts reading
entire documents and i should use again nvda+down arrow keys to
continue.
is there any solution for this?
i appreciate any help, God bless you all.

On 1/16/18, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Thanks Bhavya!

I just had a quick look and see there is a bit of discussion in that ticket
for anyone else interested in the topic.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@gmail.com>
wrote:

Dear all,
Some of you, members of this NVDA Users International mailing list,
recently shared your observation that character and word navigation
did indeed interrupt say all despite enabling skim reading.
Since Quentin isn't around right now, I thought I'd do the honours for
a change; I've filed a ticket concerning this issue on NVDA's issue
tracker on GitHub, located at
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7879.
This is the URL you may want to visit to monitor any progress made in
regards to this bug report.
Thanks.
P.S. In case you would like to learn doing this yourself for any other
bugs you wish to report or features you'd like to request, feel free
to read Part 0, 1, and 2 of The GitHub Games series at
https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/2017/10/20/the-
github-games-pt-0-background-introduction-and-series-overview/,
https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/2017/10/24/the-
github-games-pt-1-creating-a-new-account/,
and https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/2017/12/21/the-
github-games-pt-2-filing-your-first-ticket/.

--
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Re: I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I find that this weird problem and usually context menus as well has been part of windows since at least XP. Its quite rare but often follows a lot of work with audio editing and multiple windows being open, or if you don't shut the computer down an use snooze standby or similar a lot.
If like me you have an SSd as the system drive then using these methods to get fast booting is not really needed anny more.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window


Hi guys!
I feel so stupid.
NVDA works fine in the start menu now!
From now on, I will restart my computer.
Thanks guys, NVDA works great in the start menu now!
David Moore
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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 3:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

Do you know which version of nvda last worked for you? There has been a very
recent change to the search part of that area to fix an issue in windows 7.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window


Hi Joseph!
I tried restarting NVDA, tried, disabling all add ons, tried disabling all
add ons except for Win10 apps, and so on, and NVDA does nothing in the start
area!
David Moore
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From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

Hi,
When something like this happens, try the usual troubleshooting steps,
starting with restarting NVDA to see if fixes this. If not fixed, talk to me
on the list so we can troubleshoot this.
Cheers,
Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David
Moore
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

Hi all!
I am running Win10 1709.
I downloaded the latest master development version of NVDA:
Master 14785
I have the latest development version of Win10 apps assentials:
When I press the Windows key, NVDA will not bring up results when I search,
and NVDA will not do anything, in the start area, when I try to tab to the
mike, to the all apps, or any of that. I have to do object navigation in
there, and that does not work well.
I just thought all of you would like to know, and if any of you have noticed
this behavior in the start area with these latest development versions.
Take care, all!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Firefox not displaying always when first loaded up

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

IE in recent master snaps, using Firefox 52 esr, when you maybe want to look at the userguide or what's new and its the first time you have used the browser, the screen comes up as unknown and will only respond if you either switch away and back or hit alt and cancel it.

I am on windows 7, but did wonder if all the recent fiddling to get the latest version of firefox to work might have compromised the esr version in some way.
Has anyone else noticed this at all? Its not a major hassle as this sort of thing is how often things used to work some years ago for me in xp, but thought I'd best mention it here before putting electrons on Github.
Brian

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Re: I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

David Moore
 

Hi guys!

I feel so stupid.

NVDA works fine in the start menu now!

From now on, I will restart my computer.

Thanks guys, NVDA works great in the start menu now!

David Moore

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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 3:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Do you know which version of nvda last worked for you? There has been a very

recent change to the  search part of that area to fix an issue in windows 7.

Brian

 

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----- Original Message -----

From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:16 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

 

Hi Joseph!

I tried restarting NVDA, tried, disabling all add ons, tried disabling all

add ons except for Win10 apps, and so on, and NVDA does nothing in the start

area!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:47 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi,

When something like this happens, try the usual troubleshooting steps,

starting with restarting NVDA to see if fixes this. If not fixed, talk to me

on the list so we can troubleshoot this.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David

Moore

Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:39 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi all!

I am running Win10 1709.

I downloaded the latest master development version of NVDA:

Master 14785

I have the latest development version of Win10 apps assentials:

When I press the Windows key, NVDA will not bring up results when I search,

and NVDA will not do anything, in the start area, when I try to tab to the

mike, to the all apps, or any of that. I have to do object navigation in

there, and that does not work well.

I just thought all of you would like to know, and if any of you have noticed

this behavior in the start area with these latest development versions.

Take care, all!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I'd have thought he would have already tried this, its what I do first when you get menu creeping death syndrome in any version of windows with a screenreader!

Brian

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From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window


Hi,

What about restarting your computer?

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 12:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window



Hi Joseph!

I tried restarting NVDA, tried, disabling all add ons, tried disabling all add ons except for Win10 apps, and so on, and NVDA does nothing in the start area!

David Moore

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From: Joseph Lee <mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window



Hi,

When something like this happens, try the usual troubleshooting steps, starting with restarting NVDA to see if fixes this. If not fixed, talk to me on the list so we can troubleshoot this.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window



Hi all!

I am running Win10 1709.

I downloaded the latest master development version of NVDA:

Master 14785

I have the latest development version of Win10 apps assentials:

When I press the Windows key, NVDA will not bring up results when I search, and NVDA will not do anything, in the start area, when I try to tab to the mike, to the all apps, or any of that. I have to do object navigation in there, and that does not work well.

I just thought all of you would like to know, and if any of you have noticed this behavior in the start area with these latest development versions.

Take care, all!

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10


Re: I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Do you know which version of nvda last worked for you? There has been a very recent change to the search part of that area to fix an issue in windows 7.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window


Hi Joseph!
I tried restarting NVDA, tried, disabling all add ons, tried disabling all add ons except for Win10 apps, and so on, and NVDA does nothing in the start area!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

Hi,
When something like this happens, try the usual troubleshooting steps, starting with restarting NVDA to see if fixes this. If not fixed, talk to me on the list so we can troubleshoot this.
Cheers,
Joseph

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

Hi all!
I am running Win10 1709.
I downloaded the latest master development version of NVDA:
Master 14785
I have the latest development version of Win10 apps assentials:
When I press the Windows key, NVDA will not bring up results when I search, and NVDA will not do anything, in the start area, when I try to tab to the mike, to the all apps, or any of that. I have to do object navigation in there, and that does not work well.
I just thought all of you would like to know, and if any of you have noticed this behavior in the start area with these latest development versions.
Take care, all!
David Moore
Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: Factory Reset

Stephen Costigan
 

Hi John,

Thank you, my issue is because of updates as well.

To launch narrator is it Ctrl Windows key and enter.

Regards,

Stephen

On 16/01/2018 06:20, John Isige wrote:
You can launch narrator, but you might need a USB audio device. It goes
to mine, though I have multiple audio devices, so maybe if I pulled it,
the internal sound card would work instead. Use Narrator to set up, then
when you're booted, launch your portable copy of NVDA and then tell it
to install and check the box about using portable settings on your
installed copy. Be sure to tell it to keep all the addons and such when
you generate your portable copy. I had to reset twice within a week
because of a dumb Windows update thing, and that's what I did. Hope that
helps.


On 1/15/2018 17:39, Stephen Costigan wrote:
Hi,

I need to do a factory reset on my Laptop, if i create a portable copy
of NVDA can i launch it  to help me through the initial setup screens or
can Microsoft narrator be launch.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Stephen






Re: Free & Good OCR Software for Image Scanned PDFs

Sally Kiebdaj
 

Hello Brian,


Thank you for this information.


May I get some help off-list with this program?


For starters, I can't seem to get any menus to open.


Please write me at fiddle.pup@... if you have time to help trouble shoot.


Thanks!

Sally


On 1/10/2018 9:51 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
The question of OCR scanning Image Scanned PDFs that one knows contain text comes up again and again.  If you don't want to invest some huge amount of money in a fully dedicated specialty OCR suite there is an excellent option available for free from Tracker Software:  PDF-XChange Viewer.

This software is not 100% accessible, but what you need to perform an OCR scan on an Image Scanned PDF is.

You have nothing to lose but a few minutes time to test out either PDF-XChange Viewer (which uses the "old Windows interface style" and I know to be accessible for running OCR) or the free edition of PDF-XChange Editor to check out whether it suits your needs.  I personally prefer PDF-XChange Viewer.  Here are the step-by-step instructions I wrote for a client who was a grad student who kept having old image scanned PDFs assigned for reading by various professors on how to OCR process them using PDF-XChange Viewer:

Used when you receive a PDF that was scanned without Optical Character Recognition.  For reading stick to Adobe Reader or other reader of your choice as PDF-XChange Viewer is not 100% accessible.

1.     Open PDF-XChange Viewer from your start menu or the desktop.

2.     ALT+F, O  Open a file, you’ll need to know where it is and navigate there in the Open Dialog, which is very much like Windows Explorer.

3.     CTRL+SHIFT+C  Perform optical character recognition on the file.  This will be quick for small files, 20 pages or less, but will take some time for very large files, hundreds of pages.  Listen for the process to complete.

4.     ALT+F, S  Save the file over itself with the OCR text now included.  If you wish to save the file under a different name and keep the original use ALT+F, A Save As to do this instead.

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Re: I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

David Moore
 

I will try that right now!

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 3:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi,

What about restarting your computer?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 12:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi Joseph!

I tried restarting NVDA, tried, disabling all add ons, tried disabling all add ons except for Win10 apps, and so on, and NVDA does nothing in the start area!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi,

When something like this happens, try the usual troubleshooting steps, starting with restarting NVDA to see if fixes this. If not fixed, talk to me on the list so we can troubleshoot this.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi all!

I am running Win10 1709.

I downloaded the latest master development version of NVDA:

Master 14785

I have the latest development version of Win10 apps assentials:

When I press the Windows key, NVDA will not bring up results when I search, and NVDA will not do anything, in the start area,  when I try to tab to the mike, to the all apps, or any of that. I have to do object navigation in there, and that does not work well.

I just thought all of you would like to know, and if any of you have noticed this behavior in the start area with these latest development versions.

Take care, all!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 


Re: I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi,

What about restarting your computer?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 12:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi Joseph!

I tried restarting NVDA, tried, disabling all add ons, tried disabling all add ons except for Win10 apps, and so on, and NVDA does nothing in the start area!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi,

When something like this happens, try the usual troubleshooting steps, starting with restarting NVDA to see if fixes this. If not fixed, talk to me on the list so we can troubleshoot this.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi all!

I am running Win10 1709.

I downloaded the latest master development version of NVDA:

Master 14785

I have the latest development version of Win10 apps assentials:

When I press the Windows key, NVDA will not bring up results when I search, and NVDA will not do anything, in the start area,  when I try to tab to the mike, to the all apps, or any of that. I have to do object navigation in there, and that does not work well.

I just thought all of you would like to know, and if any of you have noticed this behavior in the start area with these latest development versions.

Take care, all!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 


Re: Issues About Skim Reading Filed on GitHub

Quentin Christensen
 

Thanks Bhavya!

I just had a quick look and see there is a bit of discussion in that ticket for anyone else interested in the topic.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Dec 27, 2017 at 6:39 PM, Bhavya shah <bhavya.shah125@...> wrote:
Dear all,
Some of you, members of this NVDA Users International mailing list,
recently shared your observation that character and word navigation
did indeed interrupt say all despite enabling skim reading.
Since Quentin isn't around right now, I thought I'd do the honours for
a change; I've filed a ticket concerning this issue on NVDA's issue
tracker on GitHub, located at
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/7879.
This is the URL you may want to visit to monitor any progress made in
regards to this bug report.
Thanks.
P.S. In case you would like to learn doing this yourself for any other
bugs you wish to report or features you'd like to request, feel free
to read Part 0, 1, and 2 of The GitHub Games series at
https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/2017/10/20/the-github-games-pt-0-background-introduction-and-series-overview/,
https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/2017/10/24/the-github-games-pt-1-creating-a-new-account/,
and https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/2017/12/21/the-github-games-pt-2-filing-your-first-ticket/.

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E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@...
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Re: I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

David Moore
 

Hi Joseph!

I tried restarting NVDA, tried, disabling all add ons, tried disabling all add ons except for Win10 apps, and so on, and NVDA does nothing in the start area!

David Moore

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From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi,

When something like this happens, try the usual troubleshooting steps, starting with restarting NVDA to see if fixes this. If not fixed, talk to me on the list so we can troubleshoot this.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi all!

I am running Win10 1709.

I downloaded the latest master development version of NVDA:

Master 14785

I have the latest development version of Win10 apps assentials:

When I press the Windows key, NVDA will not bring up results when I search, and NVDA will not do anything, in the start area,  when I try to tab to the mike, to the all apps, or any of that. I have to do object navigation in there, and that does not work well.

I just thought all of you would like to know, and if any of you have noticed this behavior in the start area with these latest development versions.

Take care, all!

David Moore

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Re: I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi,

When something like this happens, try the usual troubleshooting steps, starting with restarting NVDA to see if fixes this. If not fixed, talk to me on the list so we can troubleshoot this.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Moore
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 11:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

 

Hi all!

I am running Win10 1709.

I downloaded the latest master development version of NVDA:

Master 14785

I have the latest development version of Win10 apps assentials:

When I press the Windows key, NVDA will not bring up results when I search, and NVDA will not do anything, in the start area,  when I try to tab to the mike, to the all apps, or any of that. I have to do object navigation in there, and that does not work well.

I just thought all of you would like to know, and if any of you have noticed this behavior in the start area with these latest development versions.

Take care, all!

David Moore

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I Cannot get NVDA to work in the Start Window

David Moore
 

Hi all!

I am running Win10 1709.

I downloaded the latest master development version of NVDA:

Master 14785

I have the latest development version of Win10 apps assentials:

When I press the Windows key, NVDA will not bring up results when I search, and NVDA will not do anything, in the start area,  when I try to tab to the mike, to the all apps, or any of that. I have to do object navigation in there, and that does not work well.

I just thought all of you would like to know, and if any of you have noticed this behavior in the start area with these latest development versions.

Take care, all!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: NVDA tech Support

Quentin Christensen
 

I try to keep up with the list at least every couple of days.  I have been on leave for the past month so am only just starting to catch up, but that is the exception rather than the rule.

I certainly try to pick up on messages which have not been replied to.  If I see a thread with 50 messages and I'm busy and the last time I looked at the thread it had wandered off course into an unrelated discussion, I might not go back to it - which is why if you have a new question, it's best to start a new thread unless it really is related to the conversation and not hijacking someone else's question.

We do have, as was mentioned, paid telephone support, with both an Australian and a US number, and certainly, one thing I have in my mind to look at this year, is how useful that is, why people do or don't take it up, and how we can improve our support into the future.

I do encourage people to write to the list rather than me personally with support queries, but that is because while I will still see it on here and answer it, others may see it and respond earlier.

Regards

Quentin.

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A lot of the unanswered issues are simply because from the info given, there is no answer. also of course it could be that this person has some difference on their machine that only they have.

Its very hard if you have an issue to be very more helpful quite often.
For example I seem to be one of just two people who find updates to nvda do often lock up on the reboot. Its going to be impossible for anyone working on the code to fix it if they cannot see it going on.

Brian

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Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 9:00 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA tech Support



NVDA tech support may be best provided by groups at the national level given the different needs and language barriers.  A headquarter group may be used to provide support to national groups as needed.  In this large group list, many questions often remain unanswered.
Season's blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Saturday, December 23, 2017 2:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] I'm dissappointed

Hmmm how would one go about doing this.

Firstly you would need some way to handle this.

I guess if it was all done via skype it could be done but I certainly do not have time to sit round on a  waiting for calls on nvda.

For mail ie email we have this list for global support and the tech lists at least in new zealand do handle nvda questions and issues if they get posted there.

There is the blind organisation I am in and they have an accessibility centre of sorts that covers all support I suspose nvda to but who knows.

Its an organisation so like all of them they want you to use jaws but who knows a lot of that has changed a lot.




On 24/12/2017 8:22 a.m., Rui Fontes wrote:
I think the better solution is each NVDA country community having some
kind of support center, by phone or by mail...

At least in Portugal we serve as a kind of support center for NVDA...
by phone, Skype or mail...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 18:55 de 23/12/2017, Shaun Everiss escreveu:
Well nvda  does not use a traditional support line, the email list is
support for most part.

I think there is a toll call service in australia that the devs run
which you can buy, all reader groups have a trained tech support call
centre, we have mike and maybe other devs doing support but its not a
full support group.

Being that this is opensource and not payed for like jaws I am not
sure how we can fix this shortfall.

Technically I guess we can have groups on skype and or whats app for
nvda support but you really need someone to pick up that phone and
dial support.

Here is the thing, a number of  devs and a few are payed but most of
us are not.

Having used jaws, and dolphin products while I have needed support
for most of my comercial product use its never been that much and
email has been most of it but if I need a responce the phone is
always the best especially if the computer does not work right.




On 24/12/2017 4:43 a.m., susan@... wrote:
I am a teacher of students with visual impairments. One of my
students is learning to use a screen reader and I decided to adopt
NVDA. Tireless hours training have been spent training myself
through videos, websites, youtubes, etc. I started training my
student and implementing it with his school work. We have found what
works one day does not always work the next day. What has been
frustrating is how difficult it is to get tech support for NVDA on
the spot as we sometimes need in the educational setting. We have
very limited hours in a school day to complete our training and work
with students with visual impairments. Their curriculum extends
beyond the core curriculum as we all know and efficiency with
support is critical. I am starting to use JAWS with my student and
it has been seemless and working well. I really want to adopt NVDA
but it has been very frustrating. We teach our students to
brainstorm and contact tech support when needed but NVDA does not
make it easy for our students to do this. Our students are the
future of NVDA as future screen readers. Thoughts?






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Re: Factory Reset

John Isige
 

You can launch narrator, but you might need a USB audio device. It goes
to mine, though I have multiple audio devices, so maybe if I pulled it,
the internal sound card would work instead. Use Narrator to set up, then
when you're booted, launch your portable copy of NVDA and then tell it
to install and check the box about using portable settings on your
installed copy. Be sure to tell it to keep all the addons and such when
you generate your portable copy. I had to reset twice within a week
because of a dumb Windows update thing, and that's what I did. Hope that
helps.

On 1/15/2018 17:39, Stephen Costigan wrote:
Hi,

I need to do a factory reset on my Laptop, if i create a portable copy
of NVDA can i launch it  to help me through the initial setup screens or
can Microsoft narrator be launch.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Stephen



Re: Nvda sleep. Mode

Quentin Christensen
 

The other thing I was going to add to the thread through, was the difference between sleep mode and speech mode.

Sleep mode is toggled with either NVDA+shift+s or NVDA+shift+z as discussed already.  It stops anything from being passed to NVDA while in the current application.  If you alt+tab to something else, it will automatically start reading it (unless the other application is another window from this application).  It stays like that until you either press the keystroke again, or exit the application.

Speech mode doesn't change what happens, but rather whether you hear it or not.  If you turn speech mode to "off" and then press NVDA+f12, it will still report the time, it's just that you won't hear it - it will be in the speech viewer if you have that running, and it will display it on a connected Braille display.

If you are in speech mode: off, it's like you turned your speakers off but NVDA is still working and responding to input and commands.  If you are in sleep mode, it's like NVDA isn't running at all.

On Tue, Jan 16, 2018 at 5:05 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
I was going to check whether you were using INSERT or CAPS LOCK as your NVDA modifier key - if you can get in and out of input help mode etc, then I assume you know what your NVDA key is though so that's probably not it.  I've seen keyboards which didn't work with four key keystrokes, but there are enough three key keystrokes even in the sighted world that I would be (ok only a little) surprised if there were many keyboards which couldn't handle three key keystrokes.

Could it be something with needing the Fn key maybe for your NVDA modifier key perhaps, in which case it could potentially be the four key limitation.

Otherwise, the other thing that crops up from time to time is that Windows thinks you have a modifier key held down even when you don't.  In that case it usually manifests it in other ways (as if every single key you press also had CONTROL held down for instance) and the usual fix I use is to mash the modifier keys a few times to "unstick" it.

After that, I'm running out of ideas.

On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 4:40 AM, Dr. arvind singh brar <arvindsinghbrar@...> wrote:
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On 24 Dec 2017, at 00.26, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:

Hi

You definitely have your keyboard layout set to “laptop”?

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dr. arvind singh brar
Sent: 23 December 2017 16:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda sleep. Mode

 

Hi there,

I tried pressing nvda shift z but nothing happens,

I even tried it input help on but pressing those key combination did nothing,

So i uninstalled and re-installed nvda just to see if there would be any difference, but the results were the same,

Really frustrating, i really do not know where i am going wrong,

*sigh*

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NvDA+Shift+s toggles sleep mode with Desktop keyboard layout and

NVDA+Shift+z toggles sleep mode with laptop keyboard layout.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dr. arvind singh brar
Sent: 22 December 2017 20:09
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda sleep. Mode

 

No i'm using the laptop keyboard

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On 23 Dec 2017, at 03.02, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Are you using an external keyboard? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:32 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda sleep. Mode

 

Hello

Pressing nvda +shift +s, nvda says selected and does not goes to sleep,

I am using a laptop by the way,

Thanks

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On 23 Dec 2017, at 01.27, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

What guide are you referring to?  Do you mean the guide you purchase?  If so, and if you are reporting the command as it exists accurately in the guide, that is the second incorrect command I've seen discussed in the paid for guide in about the last six months.  I'm not sure what the other one was but it wasn't discussed here.  The correct command is NVDA key shift s. 

 

I seem to recall that the other incorrect command had to do with a screen review or object navigation command. 

 

Even if people know the correct command, it is important to report incorrect commands in instructional material NVDA creates or links to.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:14 PM

Subject: [nvda] Nvda sleep. Mode

 

Hello. 

I have a question

I read in the nvda guide that pressing nvda + shift + z will put nvda to sleep,

But when i press it nothing happens,

So how do i put nvda to sleep?

Thanks

 

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Re: Nvda sleep. Mode

Quentin Christensen
 

I was going to check whether you were using INSERT or CAPS LOCK as your NVDA modifier key - if you can get in and out of input help mode etc, then I assume you know what your NVDA key is though so that's probably not it.  I've seen keyboards which didn't work with four key keystrokes, but there are enough three key keystrokes even in the sighted world that I would be (ok only a little) surprised if there were many keyboards which couldn't handle three key keystrokes.

Could it be something with needing the Fn key maybe for your NVDA modifier key perhaps, in which case it could potentially be the four key limitation.

Otherwise, the other thing that crops up from time to time is that Windows thinks you have a modifier key held down even when you don't.  In that case it usually manifests it in other ways (as if every single key you press also had CONTROL held down for instance) and the usual fix I use is to mash the modifier keys a few times to "unstick" it.

After that, I'm running out of ideas.

On Sun, Dec 24, 2017 at 4:40 AM, Dr. arvind singh brar <arvindsinghbrar@...> wrote:
Yes it's a 100% laptop keyboard layout

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On 24 Dec 2017, at 00.26, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:

Hi

You definitely have your keyboard layout set to “laptop”?

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dr. arvind singh brar
Sent: 23 December 2017 16:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda sleep. Mode

 

Hi there,

I tried pressing nvda shift z but nothing happens,

I even tried it input help on but pressing those key combination did nothing,

So i uninstalled and re-installed nvda just to see if there would be any difference, but the results were the same,

Really frustrating, i really do not know where i am going wrong,

*sigh*

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NvDA+Shift+s toggles sleep mode with Desktop keyboard layout and

NVDA+Shift+z toggles sleep mode with laptop keyboard layout.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dr. arvind singh brar
Sent: 22 December 2017 20:09
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda sleep. Mode

 

No i'm using the laptop keyboard

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On 23 Dec 2017, at 03.02, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Are you using an external keyboard? 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:32 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda sleep. Mode

 

Hello

Pressing nvda +shift +s, nvda says selected and does not goes to sleep,

I am using a laptop by the way,

Thanks

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On 23 Dec 2017, at 01.27, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

What guide are you referring to?  Do you mean the guide you purchase?  If so, and if you are reporting the command as it exists accurately in the guide, that is the second incorrect command I've seen discussed in the paid for guide in about the last six months.  I'm not sure what the other one was but it wasn't discussed here.  The correct command is NVDA key shift s. 

 

I seem to recall that the other incorrect command had to do with a screen review or object navigation command. 

 

Even if people know the correct command, it is important to report incorrect commands in instructional material NVDA creates or links to.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Friday, December 22, 2017 12:14 PM

Subject: [nvda] Nvda sleep. Mode

 

Hello. 

I have a question

I read in the nvda guide that pressing nvda + shift + z will put nvda to sleep,

But when i press it nothing happens,

So how do i put nvda to sleep?

Thanks

 

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Re: Nvda sleep mode

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi there,

Are you asking what NVDA sleep mode is and / or how to use it?

To turn sleep mode on press NVDA+shift+s, or if you have NVDA in laptop keyboard layout, press NVDA+shift+z.

From that point, NVDA will completely ignore everything in that program until you close it. It will behave as if NVDA wasn't running at all.  When you alt+tab to another program, NVDA will read the ALT+TAB window and the other program normally (unless the other program is another instance of the "sleeping" program.  You can press the keystroke again (NVDA+shift+s / NVDA+shift+z) to turn sleep mode off.

Sleep mode is particularly useful in self-voicing programs.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sat, Dec 23, 2017 at 12:05 PM, Dr. arvind singh brar <arvindsinghbrar@...> wrote:
Thousand apologies for bringing the issue of the list,
Thank you for the education
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