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Re: Firefox not displaying always when first loaded up

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Sorry but we're not all like that.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox not displaying always when first loaded up

 

Time to let go Brian. Did you ever have a stuffed animal growing up as a we boy? Eventually it got all torn up and old. You blind folks can’t let go of things.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 11:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox not displaying always when first loaded up

 

I'm sticking to 52 esr as it has the sounds I want.

Brian

 

bglists@...

Sent via blueyonder.

Please address personal email to:-

briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----

From: "Lino Morales" <linomorales001@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 4:09 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox not displaying always when first loaded up

 

 

Yeah use Firefox 58 beta 16. Yeah it’s a bit slow with NVDA, but hey it

works. Its not as slow as V 57.X

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Payal Kapoor

Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 6:44 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox not displaying always when first loaded up

 

hi,

i have the same problem with the same version of Firefox. however, i

use Windows 10 version 1709 with the latest built and NVDA 2017.4

sometimes by moving away and coming back it loads while at other times

it won't. it is irritating and i've not been able to establish one set

method for it to launch.

it also says "toolbar edit".

it made me wonder if some toolbar had been installed that caused this

to happen. not certain on this either.

thanks for any solutions.

Payal

 

On 1/16/18, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

<bglists@...> wrote:

> IE in recent master snaps, using Firefox 52 esr, when you maybe want to

> look

> at the userguide or what's new and its the first time you have used the

> browser, the screen comes up as unknown and will only respond if you

> either

> switch away and back or hit alt and cancel it.

> I am on windows 7, but did wonder if all the recent fiddling to get the

> latest version of firefox to work might have compromised the esr version

> in

> some way.

>  Has anyone else noticed this at all?  Its not a major hassle as this sort

> of thing is how often things used to work some years ago for me in xp, but

> thought I'd best mention it here before putting electrons on Github.

>  Brian

> bglists@...

> Sent via blueyonder.

> Please address personal email to:-

> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

> in the display name field.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

ely.r@...
 

I will look at that. I have also downloaded the AFB intro from their web site and need to go through it as well. Great to have a wealth of materials available.

Dog guide, General, is saying “time to head to bed,

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 9:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Hi,

Because my tutorial set is strictly on NVDA features, a better tutorial for beginning screen reader users would be Basic Training module from NV Access.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 6:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

I will certainly post the results. I have avoided registry editing since registries appeared. Have you any tutorials to suggest?

 

So interesting about the Zip file. Downloading a file at a time, I was going to ask it you might consider doing just that.

 

I will be doing classes at our local library this spring on PC access and have decided on NVDA as the screen reader choice. There is a wave of us “baby boomer” seniors headed our way and many will lose vision as they age. Most of that generation will be regular long time computer users. At our ages many will no longer have access to rehabilitation equipment support as they will not be in the job market. They are not likely to want to give up their computer use, but may not have the $800 plus to invest in the other options.

 

I have also been working with Windows Magnifier in combination with NVDA as a means to create what Fusion offers, that is a way to move from enlarged display to speech as a process not a leap. In general, the two together work quite well.

 

I am so impressed with what the developers and supporters like you have managed to do. The tuff future ahead is to discover the paths that lead to long term ongoing development. The target does not stand still as demonstrated by the recent browser changes.

Thanks,

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Hi,

You’re welcome anytime. Just in case you do manage to fix this, do let folks know.

As for the tutorial: we’re at home stretch, and if things go as planned, all parts will be packaged into a zip file in February. Speaking of tutorial packaging: expect changes in one or more segments between now and February.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 5:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Joseph,

]Thanks for the response. Just wanted to join in saying huge thanks for “Welcome to NVDA.” Good to have so much information gathered into one place and presented in such a clear manner.

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Hi,

My guess is good as yours: registry.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Repeatedly, I have tried doing the most recent Windows 10 update. Get to the step where the installer asks me to uninstall this program as it cannot. The program at fault is, Window eyes 9.1. It is not listed as an installed program in Programs and Features, “add or remove”. I have searched the entire computer for Window Eyes and GW Micro remains and find nothing.

Is it possible that the installer is finding a remaining entry in the registry?

Any suggestions would be much appreciated,

Thanks,

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038


Re: Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Hi,

Because my tutorial set is strictly on NVDA features, a better tutorial for beginning screen reader users would be Basic Training module from NV Access.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 6:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

I will certainly post the results. I have avoided registry editing since registries appeared. Have you any tutorials to suggest?

 

So interesting about the Zip file. Downloading a file at a time, I was going to ask it you might consider doing just that.

 

I will be doing classes at our local library this spring on PC access and have decided on NVDA as the screen reader choice. There is a wave of us “baby boomer” seniors headed our way and many will lose vision as they age. Most of that generation will be regular long time computer users. At our ages many will no longer have access to rehabilitation equipment support as they will not be in the job market. They are not likely to want to give up their computer use, but may not have the $800 plus to invest in the other options.

 

I have also been working with Windows Magnifier in combination with NVDA as a means to create what Fusion offers, that is a way to move from enlarged display to speech as a process not a leap. In general, the two together work quite well.

 

I am so impressed with what the developers and supporters like you have managed to do. The tuff future ahead is to discover the paths that lead to long term ongoing development. The target does not stand still as demonstrated by the recent browser changes.

Thanks,

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Hi,

You’re welcome anytime. Just in case you do manage to fix this, do let folks know.

As for the tutorial: we’re at home stretch, and if things go as planned, all parts will be packaged into a zip file in February. Speaking of tutorial packaging: expect changes in one or more segments between now and February.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 5:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Joseph,

]Thanks for the response. Just wanted to join in saying huge thanks for “Welcome to NVDA.” Good to have so much information gathered into one place and presented in such a clear manner.

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Hi,

My guess is good as yours: registry.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Repeatedly, I have tried doing the most recent Windows 10 update. Get to the step where the installer asks me to uninstall this program as it cannot. The program at fault is, Window eyes 9.1. It is not listed as an installed program in Programs and Features, “add or remove”. I have searched the entire computer for Window Eyes and GW Micro remains and find nothing.

Is it possible that the installer is finding a remaining entry in the registry?

Any suggestions would be much appreciated,

Thanks,

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038


Re: Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

ely.r@...
 

I will certainly post the results. I have avoided registry editing since registries appeared. Have you any tutorials to suggest?

 

So interesting about the Zip file. Downloading a file at a time, I was going to ask it you might consider doing just that.

 

I will be doing classes at our local library this spring on PC access and have decided on NVDA as the screen reader choice. There is a wave of us “baby boomer” seniors headed our way and many will lose vision as they age. Most of that generation will be regular long time computer users. At our ages many will no longer have access to rehabilitation equipment support as they will not be in the job market. They are not likely to want to give up their computer use, but may not have the $800 plus to invest in the other options.

 

I have also been working with Windows Magnifier in combination with NVDA as a means to create what Fusion offers, that is a way to move from enlarged display to speech as a process not a leap. In general, the two together work quite well.

 

I am so impressed with what the developers and supporters like you have managed to do. The tuff future ahead is to discover the paths that lead to long term ongoing development. The target does not stand still as demonstrated by the recent browser changes.

Thanks,

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Hi,

You’re welcome anytime. Just in case you do manage to fix this, do let folks know.

As for the tutorial: we’re at home stretch, and if things go as planned, all parts will be packaged into a zip file in February. Speaking of tutorial packaging: expect changes in one or more segments between now and February.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 5:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Joseph,

]Thanks for the response. Just wanted to join in saying huge thanks for “Welcome to NVDA.” Good to have so much information gathered into one place and presented in such a clear manner.

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Hi,

My guess is good as yours: registry.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Repeatedly, I have tried doing the most recent Windows 10 update. Get to the step where the installer asks me to uninstall this program as it cannot. The program at fault is, Window eyes 9.1. It is not listed as an installed program in Programs and Features, “add or remove”. I have searched the entire computer for Window Eyes and GW Micro remains and find nothing.

Is it possible that the installer is finding a remaining entry in the registry?

Any suggestions would be much appreciated,

Thanks,

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038


Re: Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Hi,

You’re welcome anytime. Just in case you do manage to fix this, do let folks know.

As for the tutorial: we’re at home stretch, and if things go as planned, all parts will be packaged into a zip file in February. Speaking of tutorial packaging: expect changes in one or more segments between now and February.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 5:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Joseph,

]Thanks for the response. Just wanted to join in saying huge thanks for “Welcome to NVDA.” Good to have so much information gathered into one place and presented in such a clear manner.

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Hi,

My guess is good as yours: registry.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Repeatedly, I have tried doing the most recent Windows 10 update. Get to the step where the installer asks me to uninstall this program as it cannot. The program at fault is, Window eyes 9.1. It is not listed as an installed program in Programs and Features, “add or remove”. I have searched the entire computer for Window Eyes and GW Micro remains and find nothing.

Is it possible that the installer is finding a remaining entry in the registry?

Any suggestions would be much appreciated,

Thanks,

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038


Re: Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

ely.r@...
 

Joseph,

]Thanks for the response. Just wanted to join in saying huge thanks for “Welcome to NVDA.” Good to have so much information gathered into one place and presented in such a clear manner.

Rick

 

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Hi,

My guess is good as yours: registry.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Repeatedly, I have tried doing the most recent Windows 10 update. Get to the step where the installer asks me to uninstall this program as it cannot. The program at fault is, Window eyes 9.1. It is not listed as an installed program in Programs and Features, “add or remove”. I have searched the entire computer for Window Eyes and GW Micro remains and find nothing.

Is it possible that the installer is finding a remaining entry in the registry?

Any suggestions would be much appreciated,

Thanks,

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038


Re: Keyboard Shortcuts List

 

Hi,

I’ll take care of that. Which edition do you need: latest release, latest public beta, latest alpha, or latest really unstable build? I can do one of these because I have all of them on my computer. It’s a matter of choosing which one you need and uploading to my website.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Keyboard Shortcuts List

 

I realized that I can't send you the most current list.  I don't have a computer set up to be able to run the latest NVDA.  I have a Windows 7 machine that I almost never use online and I've never updated it to Service Pack 1.  My other machines are XP.  So I can send you one that isn't too old but I hope someone will send a newer page.  But this should have most of the keys used in the current edition. 

 

I'll be sending the page in the next ten or fifteen minutes, unless there is some unexpected problem.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 3:27 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Keyboard Shortcuts List

 

Yes, Gene, I would really appreciate that. If the web page is maintained, I’d rather have that. Thus when NVDA changes something, our people looking at the key list will see the changes instead of falling behind.

 

Thank you.

 

Tonea

 

----- Original Message -----

If you don't have NVDA installed, I can send the list of shortcut keys to you.  The quick reference is a web page and I should be able to send you an html copy, if that would make the formatting better, rather than a text copy.  Probably, if you use combinations such as alt shift and a letter, you shouldn't duplicate any NVDA commands.  I haven't looked at the laptop commands, but I've never heard any alt shift commands discussed when laptop commands are discussed here, nor have I seen any in my very slight looking.

 

Gene

 


Re: Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Hi,

My guess is good as yours: registry.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of ely.r@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 1:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

 

Repeatedly, I have tried doing the most recent Windows 10 update. Get to the step where the installer asks me to uninstall this program as it cannot. The program at fault is, Window eyes 9.1. It is not listed as an installed program in Programs and Features, “add or remove”. I have searched the entire computer for Window Eyes and GW Micro remains and find nothing.

Is it possible that the installer is finding a remaining entry in the registry?

Any suggestions would be much appreciated,

Thanks,

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038


Re: Keyboard Shortcuts List

Gene
 

I realized that I can't send you the most current list.  I don't have a computer set up to be able to run the latest NVDA.  I have a Windows 7 machine that I almost never use online and I've never updated it to Service Pack 1.  My other machines are XP.  So I can send you one that isn't too old but I hope someone will send a newer page.  But this should have most of the keys used in the current edition. 
 
I'll be sending the page in the next ten or fifteen minutes, unless there is some unexpected problem.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Keyboard Shortcuts List

Yes, Gene, I would really appreciate that. If the web page is maintained, I’d rather have that. Thus when NVDA changes something, our people looking at the key list will see the changes instead of falling behind.

 

Thank you.

 

Tonea

 

----- Original Message -----

If you don't have NVDA installed, I can send the list of shortcut keys to you.  The quick reference is a web page and I should be able to send you an html copy, if that would make the formatting better, rather than a text copy.  Probably, if you use combinations such as alt shift and a letter, you shouldn't duplicate any NVDA commands.  I haven't looked at the laptop commands, but I've never heard any alt shift commands discussed when laptop commands are discussed here, nor have I seen any in my very slight looking.

 

Gene

 


Re: The length of a stop

Gene
 

the following message was sent to me by Tonea off list    .  I'm sending it to the list, with her permission, because it is of more general interest.

 

Gene

 

I checked out Windows Narrator and heard your problem on my own sample writing. The only thing I can think of is to code it as HTML. There should be a way to pause with HTML since they have timed forms and such. Just code it to pause for 1 second. I say that without knowing HTML, sorry.

 

A different approach is to see if you can insert a sound. If the screen reader reached the end of the line and read a silent sound file of one-half of one second and then continued, then the pause would be longer than a period by itself.

 

Just trying to offer ideas, even if I can’t offer a solution.

 

Tonea


Re: Keyboard Shortcuts List

tonea.ctr.morrow@...
 

If it makes it past the security scanners, I can accept attachments. But, no, I can’t do drop boxes.

 

Thanks,

 

Tonea

 


Re: Keyboard Shortcuts List

Gene
 

I've never checked for a web page.  I got the impression from discussion here that there isn't an independent web page but I don't know.  If there isn't, I'll send you the file.  But can you accept attachments or do you need to get it in some other way such as a Drop box linkk?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 3:27 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Keyboard Shortcuts List

Yes, Gene, I would really appreciate that. If the web page is maintained, I’d rather have that. Thus when NVDA changes something, our people looking at the key list will see the changes instead of falling behind.

 

Thank you.

 

Tonea

 

----- Original Message -----

If you don't have NVDA installed, I can send the list of shortcut keys to you.  The quick reference is a web page and I should be able to send you an html copy, if that would make the formatting better, rather than a text copy.  Probably, if you use combinations such as alt shift and a letter, you shouldn't duplicate any NVDA commands.  I haven't looked at the laptop commands, but I've never heard any alt shift commands discussed when laptop commands are discussed here, nor have I seen any in my very slight looking.

 

Gene

 


Re: Factory Reset

Sarah k Alawami
 

In my case I don't think that would work. I have to  hold down f7 to bring up the list of tasks for  my custom computer. I think I did not get narrator to start and I had to have aira guide me through the install. That's fine,

On Jan 16, 2018, at 1:00 PM, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


a couple of ways to start narrator


One is through the earch box type narrator then press the enter key


Older versions of windows is the windows key + enter key


The latest version of windows is the ctrl key + windows key + the enter key on windows 10 version 1709


Gene nz



On 1/16/2018 8:03 PM, Stephen Costigan wrote:
Hi John,

Thank you, my issue is because of updates as well.

To launch narrator is it Ctrl Windows key and enter.

Regards,

Stephen


On 16/01/2018 06:20, John Isige wrote:
You can launch narrator, but you might need a USB audio device. It goes
to mine, though I have multiple audio devices, so maybe if I pulled it,
the internal sound card would work instead. Use Narrator to set up, then
when you're booted, launch your portable copy of NVDA and then tell it
to install and check the box about using portable settings on your
installed copy. Be sure to tell it to keep all the addons and such when
you generate your portable copy. I had to reset twice within a week
because of a dumb Windows update thing, and that's what I did. Hope that
helps.


On 1/15/2018 17:39, Stephen Costigan wrote:
Hi,

I need to do a factory reset on my Laptop, if i create a portable copy
of NVDA can i launch it  to help me through the initial setup screens or
can Microsoft narrator be launch.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Stephen









--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Issue installing latest Windows 10 update

ely.r@...
 

Repeatedly, I have tried doing the most recent Windows 10 update. Get to the step where the installer asks me to uninstall this program as it cannot. The program at fault is, Window eyes 9.1. It is not listed as an installed program in Programs and Features, “add or remove”. I have searched the entire computer for Window Eyes and GW Micro remains and find nothing.

Is it possible that the installer is finding a remaining entry in the registry?

Any suggestions would be much appreciated,

Thanks,

Rick

Dr. Rick Ely

TVI, Vision Consultant

451 Rocky Hill Road

Florence, MA 01062

&413()  727-3038


Re: Duplicate messages in my thunderbird email client

tonea.ctr.morrow@...
 

Maybe I missed it, but I didn’t see a follow-up on this. Bear with me, please.

 

I have a personal email address for non-work stuff. My cell phone is set to check with Google and show me anything I haven’t read. I can delete from my cell phone, but it only effects my phone. However, I use my home computer to pop in and it downloads the messages and them deletes them from the google server. Thus, they can no longer be seen by my phone’s email reader.

 

I’m wondering if your pop settings are not deleting from the server. Thus, you connect and get messages 1-5, and then five minutes later you get them again because they are still on the server.

 

It was just a thought…I’m no expert.

 

If you can’t find the help you need by the end of the week, let me know privately and I will personally find out by going and talking to an expert I do know.

 

Tonea

 

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, January 15, 2018 5:09 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Duplicate messages in my thunderbird email client

 

Not come across that before. The only time I did was when the server was slow in acknowledging that a message has been downloaded, but that is quite rare.

 

Might be worth looking at the headers and seeing what is different.

Brian

 

bglists@...

Sent via blueyonder.

Please address personal email to:-

briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

in the display name field.

 

----- Original Message -----

From: "Dr. arvind singh brar" <arvindsinghbrar@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Sunday, January 14, 2018 6:31 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Duplicate messages in my thunderbird email client

 

 

Hello again,

 

It happens to all messages and i use pop3

Any solutions?

 

> On 13 Jan 2018, at 23.39, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

> <bglists@...> wrote:

>    This message is eligible for Automatic Cleanup!

> (bglists@...) Add cleanup rule | More info

> Are these all messages, or just messages from yourself to, say this list

> and to others.

> Google always seems to send back an email to the sender every time you

> send one, but if this was the case then I'd not expect to see any

> duplicates from anyone on the list but yourself.

> I'll pass this over to other Tbird experts, but are you using Imap or pop3

> collection? If its Imap then not a lot you can do about it, but Pop3

> should be able to be filtered by rules you set up so the  returns go to

> another folder of your choice.

> Note though that I find it very handy to use imap for looking at the raw

> incoming stream and the spam folders.

> Brian

 

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dr. arvind singh brar"

> <arvindsinghbrar@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Saturday, January 13, 2018 1:50 PM

> Subject: [nvda] Duplicate messages in my thunderbird email client

> Hello friends,

> I am facing a strange issue in my thunderbird email client where i am

> getting duplicate messages

> All the messages in my inbox is followed by a duplicate,

> I waas wondering if there was a way to remove duplicate messages from

> appearing in my inbox?

> Any help would be greatly appreciated,

> Thank you so much 'alvin from singaporre;

 


Re: Keyboard Shortcuts List

tonea.ctr.morrow@...
 

Yes, Gene, I would really appreciate that. If the web page is maintained, I’d rather have that. Thus when NVDA changes something, our people looking at the key list will see the changes instead of falling behind.

 

Thank you.

 

Tonea

 

----- Original Message -----

If you don't have NVDA installed, I can send the list of shortcut keys to you.  The quick reference is a web page and I should be able to send you an html copy, if that would make the formatting better, rather than a text copy.  Probably, if you use combinations such as alt shift and a letter, you shouldn't duplicate any NVDA commands.  I haven't looked at the laptop commands, but I've never heard any alt shift commands discussed when laptop commands are discussed here, nor have I seen any in my very slight looking.

 

Gene

 


Re: Keyboard Shortcuts List

tonea.ctr.morrow@...
 

Again, I don’t have the software and am in the process of getting it approved for my computer. In order to share the shortcut key list with my entire department, I will need to be pointed to where the list is maintained outside the software or I will need someone to send me a copy. Please remember, the goal of the list is to get sighted people who don’t have NVDA to not use your keyboard shortcuts for their own software, thus reserving those keystrokes for NVDA users.

 

Thanks!

 

Tonea

 

 

----Original Message----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:12 PM

Hi,

Yes: provided that you’ve got NVDA installed, click NVDA icon on the notification area, go to Help, then Commands Quick Reference.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of tonea.ctr.morrow@...
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 12:02 PM

I was reviewing accessibility standards and came across this.

 

Quote:

[We] must not develop or implement IT solutions or services in a way that disrupts or disables assistive technology or a platform software’s accessibility features and keyboard shortcuts. End Quote.

 

Is there a list of NVDA keyboard shortcuts? I need to make sure we have copy of the list so we don’t re-assign them within our software. If anyone can point me to the same list for JAWS, that would be a bonus!

 

Thanks,

 

Tonea

 

 


Re: Keyboard Shortcuts List

Gene
 

If you don't have NVDA installed, I can send the list of shortcut keys to you.  The quick reference is a web page and I should be able to send you an html copy, if that would make the formatting better, rather than a text copy.  Probably, if you use combinations such as alt shift and a letter, you shouldn't duplicate any NVDA commands.  I haven't looked at the laptop commands, but I've never heard any alt shift commands discussed when laptop commands are discussed here, nor have I seen any in my very slight looking.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: mk360
Sent: Tuesday, January 16, 2018 2:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Keyboard Shortcuts List

On the NVDA menu under help you can see the key commands. also you can see these on the Input gestures dialog.


Regards,

mk.


El 16/01/2018 a las 17:02, tonea.ctr.morrow@... escribió:

I was reviewing accessibility standards and came across this.

 

Quote:

[We] must not develop or implement IT solutions or services in a way that disrupts or disables assistive technology or a platform software’s accessibility features and keyboard shortcuts. End Quote.

 

Is there a list of NVDA keyboard shortcuts? I need to make sure we have copy of the list so we don’t re-assign them within our software. If anyone can point me to the same list for JAWS, that would be a bonus!

 

Thanks,

 

Tonea

 



Re: Factory Reset

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


a couple of ways to start narrator


One is through the earch box type narrator then press the enter key


Older versions of windows is the windows key + enter key


The latest version of windows is the ctrl key + windows key + the enter key on windows 10 version 1709


Gene nz



On 1/16/2018 8:03 PM, Stephen Costigan wrote:
Hi John,

Thank you, my issue is because of updates as well.

To launch narrator is it Ctrl Windows key and enter.

Regards,

Stephen


On 16/01/2018 06:20, John Isige wrote:
You can launch narrator, but you might need a USB audio device. It goes
to mine, though I have multiple audio devices, so maybe if I pulled it,
the internal sound card would work instead. Use Narrator to set up, then
when you're booted, launch your portable copy of NVDA and then tell it
to install and check the box about using portable settings on your
installed copy. Be sure to tell it to keep all the addons and such when
you generate your portable copy. I had to reset twice within a week
because of a dumb Windows update thing, and that's what I did. Hope that
helps.


On 1/15/2018 17:39, Stephen Costigan wrote:
Hi,

I need to do a factory reset on my Laptop, if i create a portable copy
of NVDA can i launch it  to help me through the initial setup screens or
can Microsoft narrator be launch.

Any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Regards

Stephen











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Re: Keyboard Shortcuts List

mk360
 

On the NVDA menu under help you can see the key commands. also you can see these on the Input gestures dialog.


Regards,

mk.


El 16/01/2018 a las 17:02, tonea.ctr.morrow@... escribió:

I was reviewing accessibility standards and came across this.

 

Quote:

[We] must not develop or implement IT solutions or services in a way that disrupts or disables assistive technology or a platform software’s accessibility features and keyboard shortcuts. End Quote.

 

Is there a list of NVDA keyboard shortcuts? I need to make sure we have copy of the list so we don’t re-assign them within our software. If anyone can point me to the same list for JAWS, that would be a bonus!

 

Thanks,

 

Tonea