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Re: New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

mk360
 

NVDA is GPL 2, not 3. The add-on might not be free, unless you use parts of the NVDA code itself, and in that case you can release these portions to the public.

On Fri, Jan 12, 2018 at 6:01 AM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
But there in lies the problem.

We are opensource.

The addons by nature usually need to be free.

In house custom made software is for the company, and unless they do it themselves, it is unlikely they will let someone just get access to their secret software or code certainly even if they do that person would have an aggreement.

Suppose some testers need to test it, they can't.

I am not sure myself where this does it.

There are no rules saying you can't but who knows.



On 11/01/2018 9:45 p.m., Damien Garwood wrote:
Hi Shaun,
NVAccess itself is a registered charity. So while not a business, companies can be more or less be assured of its authenticity. What's more, they do paid support packages, and as they develop and update NVDA itself, I am sure, with appropriate funding, either from donations or as a paid service, they will be able to hire someone to script the necessary components, or else make it themselves.
As for licencing: I have actually often wondered that myself. Licences are far too legalese for me to understand the entire ins and outs, but my understanding is that the GPL forces you to make your software open source, meaning that a paid addon isn't an option unless the addon itself accesses a separate closed-source module. The GPL itself states that you can charge if you wish, but that makes no sense - if you charge someone for a piece of software, which has to be open source, then there is no copy-protection against that. I guess it means for instance if you are hired to make something which is GPL-compatible.
As it is, I don't mind. I choose NVDA over JAWS by principle, due to the fact that, not only does JAWS costs over thirty times more than a cheap monitor, but it also charges for upgrades...
I could rant on about JAWS all day - I've already had to remove four lines of ranting waffle. Bottom line is, NVDA could be closed-source and charged at £30, and I'd gladly get it. I'm not one of these "Everything has to be free!" people, but I do believe we should be able to get like for like in the field of accessibility. A screen reader gives information about the screen, so simple and idealistic logic should dictate that it should cost no more than a screen. I'm so grateful that NVDA has set a new precedence by going a few steps further and making it free and open-source, and I sincerely hope my donations over the years have proved that, at least to a degree.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message----- From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 1:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

The issue is that you need to get someone that writes scripts.

He/she needs to be exposed to the program in question and there is the
issue.

I am not sure if anyone of us have some sort of professional
qualification to write scripts for businesses.

We would need to see the software.

Business x will not give some little hacker on the big internet access
to their software or computer or anything without some assurance.

They will however give access to someone that handles jaws because jaws
is the way and has been for a while and has established writers.

We do ofcause have this for ourselves, but we are not a business, we are
an opensource organisation which just so happen to be able to handle
win10 and office as well as the os itself.

I doubt we could even handle custom software.

And what happens if something goes wrong, I doubt we could last any
sueing or anything.

This is new teritory, and I don't understand it at all.

Do we want to take the next step, vfo is a large established group, it
won't be long till someone suggests jaws.

I am not saying lie down and die but do we even have a strategy to
handle this.

TO the user that said most things are java based, maybe thats what we
must focus on next then.




On 11/01/2018 2:07 p.m., Norman wrote:
Hi.

The problem here is that i don't know who to ask to build a custom addon even if i want to.

I really wish for some field labeling in a program i use a lot but who does this kind of thing?

I know almost nothing about python development and even less about the nvda development structure so getting me to learn it with the limited time i have these days is pointless.


thanks.



On 1/10/2018 4:37 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
I usually don't respond like the one you read below, but I think it must be said:
All I can say is, "this is 2010's." I personally WILL NOT tolerate the kinds of sentiment expressed below. Statements such as, "if you want customized and paid scripts, use JAWS", is, to me, outright unacceptable. I might add that statements like the one I paraphrased is hindrance, not hope, and it builds barriers instead of opening the doors for many. I think one of the reasons why there's really no professional uptake for NVDA (for now) is that we are too comfortable with our comfort zones, thus some may not show willingness to write professional add-ons, but that's changing.
Thus I would like to give my full support to an angel who can and is willing to write and share a custom NVDA add-on for the app in question.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Well you probably should use jaws, people in companies use jaws for that and buy jaws scripts.

Nvda is opensource, I am not sure if anyone would do a payed addon well due to the opensource nature I don't even know if the licence terms allow for someone to make a payed addon for a single user.

True we have synths but even so.




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I think at the moment if this is an in house piece of software its
going to be hard to do it, as really the employer needs to contact
somebody and pay for it to be done I'd suggest. In a small market like
one company, it is I think legitimate to expect it to be paid for as
usage is unlikely to be very large.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniele Casarola"
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?


Hi,
I'm Daniele from Italy.

I need a new add-on for NVDA to make my job accessible. I'm not a
programmer and I don't know how to do.

I've tried to send an email to the man NVDA website, but I didn't
receive answer.

Do you know somebody offering this kind of service?

Thank you very much.

Daniele.




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Re: New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Adriani Botez
 

A custom script writer could charge something, I agree. But a screen reader itself should be financed by sponsoring and donations. Not by obligatory payments from users.


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 12.01.2018 um 10:09 schrieb Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com>:

And how does it work when screen reader x doesn't cost.

The tools to code don't cost, and if its an inhouse program the only thing one can charge is time and level of difficulty.

But after that in house script x can not be released outside the company, I am not sure about special scripts mixed in with the opensource thing, but if its never released then I guess it technically doesn't matter there are loads of scripts on repos not linked to nvda community main archive after all.




On 12/01/2018 12:12 a.m., Adriani Botez wrote:
Your statement (taken word by word) can cause missunderstandings. Why should
I pay twice for a screen, only because I need a screen reader?


Best
Adriani

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Botez
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2018 12:10
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Hey Damien,

I think you wanted to say that a screen reader should not cause any costs at
all except the costs of the screen itself. Right?

Best
Adriani


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Garwood
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2018 11:15
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Hi,
Are you kidding me! You can seriously get thousands of dollar screens? That
is crazy, and something I've never heard of.
No, I'm talking about bog standard screens, that generally sighted people
would buy with a computer without even thinking.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Damien Garwood <damien@dcpendleton.plus.com> wrote:
A screen reader gives information about the screen, so simple and
idealistic logic should dictate that it should cost no more than a
screen.
Well, but what screen. Some screens are thousands of dollars, lol.















Re: Online Metronome accessible via NVDA

Chris Mullins
 

Hi           

I can’t get any of these to work.  I have to use firefox because of flash and it says flash isn’t installed but I know it is, so there is something wrong somewhere.  Similarly with the webmetronome which was also recommended.  Anyone know of non-flash based metronomes?

 

Cheers

Chris

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of brandon
Sent: 10 January 2018 22:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Online Metronome accessible via NVDA

 

try this

 

http://a.bestmetronome.com/

 

On 1/10/2018 1:43 PM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

Does anyone know of a web site with an NVDA accessible metronome, preferably with a drum beat?

 

Cheers

Chris

 


Re: Using Windows 10 calendar.

 

its called calendar

You need to go to apps and accounts, link your ms and your google accounts to it to fully use it then you can use that as a sort of shell.

On 12/01/2018 4:53 p.m., John Isige wrote:
Anybody got anything on this? I swear I saw a post about it, unless I'm confusing it with mail, a while back. At the time I didn't need a calendar/reminder program, and now I do. I figure if Windows has got something built in, I may as well try that first.



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Re: trouble with signing in on windows 10

 

Well usually its due to a power setting, you can set this to not go to sleep or not require a password to sign in however if its a family computer then there may be some security reasons you don't want this.

If its for admin purposes make a power plan that has everything set how you want it including fast startup, and switch to it when you go on there.

Then switch it back.

On my friend's gaming system all users have both a gaming graphics profile, a fan profile and such in their user accounts, and will switch to all of these, when they log out the system goes to normal till someone logs in and switchs over again.

On 12/01/2018 2:53 p.m., marvin kotler wrote:
Good evening list; first, running the latest nvda and windows 10 1709. Was given this computer by a family member; it is a desktop. The trouble I am having is when I sign into windows using a pin or four digits, that goes all right, but if I let the computer sit a few minutes, it returns back to default lock screen and I have to sign in again. If anyone has any advice on how I can fix things so the computer keeps on running without me having to sign in again, I would like to know how to do this; thanks.
Marv


Re: Unknown Content in Firefox

 

waterfox works, at any rate 58 or 59 will be your best bet but beta and alpha software will not be a good idea in a corperate environment.

On 12/01/2018 8:39 a.m., Tim Harshbarger wrote:
Unfortunately, it appears rolling back to an older version of Firefox or to switching to Firefox ESR isn't much of an option in our current environment. We're in a corporate environment where that type of thing is carefully controlled.

I will have to ask him, but I think he is still on Windows 7.

I'm not sure how easy it would be to do, but does updating to Windows 10 actually fix the problem?
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox

If the menues work and he is using windows 7, then I believe there is an
issue here. The best plan is to downndate firefox to version 52 ESR and then
see if that works. If it does, then its the bug due to the new Quantum
interface and some windows 7 machine systems, notably 32 firefox on 64 bit
7.
If it fails to work on that version ie 52, then the problem is in the
unregistered dlls, I'd say but in that case I'd expect IE11 to be stuffed as
well.

You need to just change one thing at a time. Try the old version of Firefox
first and report back.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 1:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] Unknown Content in Firefox


Hi,

I have a coworker who needs to be able to use NVDA and Firefox-we use it as
part of our accessibility testing. Everyone else seems to be able to use
NVDA 2017.3 (or 2017.4) with Firefox 57 with no problems.

However, every time he tries to use NVDA 2017.4 with Firefox 57, NVDA says
the content of the page is "unknown". He says it works ok in Chrome and IE
11. He was also having the problem with NVDA 2017.3.

So far, we have tried de-installing NVDA and re-installing it as well as
de-installing Firefox and re-installing it. Neither action fixed the
problem.

Has anyone else run into this problem and been able to resolve it? If not,
does anyone have any suggestions for what we might try next?

Thanks,
Tim










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Re: New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

 

And how does it work when screen reader x doesn't cost.

The tools to code don't cost, and if its an inhouse program the only thing one can charge is time and level of difficulty.

But after that in house script x can not be released outside the company, I am not sure about special scripts mixed in with the opensource thing, but if its never released then I guess it technically doesn't matter there are loads of scripts on repos not linked to nvda community main archive after all.

On 12/01/2018 12:12 a.m., Adriani Botez wrote:
Your statement (taken word by word) can cause missunderstandings. Why should
I pay twice for a screen, only because I need a screen reader?


Best
Adriani

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Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Adriani
Botez
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2018 12:10
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Hey Damien,

I think you wanted to say that a screen reader should not cause any costs at
all except the costs of the screen itself. Right?

Best
Adriani


-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] Im Auftrag von Damien
Garwood
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 11. Januar 2018 11:15
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Hi,
Are you kidding me! You can seriously get thousands of dollar screens? That
is crazy, and something I've never heard of.
No, I'm talking about bog standard screens, that generally sighted people
would buy with a computer without even thinking.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Damien Garwood <damien@dcpendleton.plus.com> wrote:
A screen reader gives information about the screen, so simple and
idealistic logic should dictate that it should cost no more than a
screen.
Well, but what screen. Some screens are thousands of dollars, lol.













Re: OK I give up, Github settings

 

Hello Brian,

When you're signed in GitHub, go to this URL address:

https://github.com/settings/notifications

Then find the check box labeled "Include your own updates" and check it if it is not checked already. I don't see a button for applying/saving the settings for this section, so I presume they get applied/saved automatically.

Hope this helps.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev


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I was told you can set it so you do get your own. It is important for me to be able to hive off a thread  from email if I never see my own half of it is missing.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] OK I give up, Github settings


No you will never  get your own. I don't worry about that as I check he websie. But I alwasy assume they have ben sent.

On Jan 11, 2018, at 12:53 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:

All I get is everyone elses posts and messages, not my own. Of course if you use google as an email providor you get your own emails back by default from google.
No it seems to be defaulted to only send emails not from you.
brian

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It should just work. It does for me, and I don't remember setting anything up almost 8 or 9 years ago when I started using github.

On Jan 10, 2018, at 3:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:

Somebody helpfully posted here a while ago some instructions on how to get githubs issue tracker to send out emails to the person who is sending either the originating post or and subsequent comments by them. I went to the place after logging in and set it to send me emails. its still not doing it on my account.
I go back in and cannot see what I set the last time.
I'd imagine if the system could be set so anyone who posts by email or puts in a comment on the site, who has an account for the list should automatically get the  comment sent back as part of the list. That would seem common sense to me, but its not happening, so at the moment, after some months, maybe I accidentally find a comment to me saying can you tell us this or that. I post that via emai, but I've no idea if its actually on the site till I log in and go through the emails and posts.
If it came back in the list as it does here, I'd be more happy that I have actually done what was asked.
Anyone?
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Re: New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

 

I agree, the company if its in house would have to do it themselves or comission someone to do it themselves.

Even if one of us that is good enough were comisioned they couldn't really reveal it on here.

On that note, there isn't even a register of writers to write scripts like this.

The other issue, if the origional poster is posting himself to see, thats fine, however your admin may have other ideas.

Ie jaws.

Now if you asked your admin, thats fine, in short ask and see what they say.

Its likely a company aint going to share with a local community though.

On 11/01/2018 10:05 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
My feeling on this one  is that the main issue for the post when it first appeared was we did not know the application or the needs of the poster. If it was a special app, that only exists as it was commissioned by the company using it, then to me its only right that that company should make it accessible themselves, even if that means paying somebody to do it. if on the other hand its a mainstream app which has not been covered and the company is willing under their licence to let a scripter have a copy, then I see no real barriers to somebody doing it.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?


Hi,
I usually don't respond like the one you read below, but I think it must be said:
All I can say is, "this is 2010's." I personally WILL NOT tolerate the kinds of sentiment expressed below. Statements such as, "if you want customized and paid scripts, use JAWS", is, to me, outright unacceptable. I might add that statements like the one I paraphrased is hindrance, not hope, and it builds barriers instead of opening the doors for many. I think one of the reasons why there's really no professional uptake for NVDA (for now) is that we are too comfortable with our comfort zones, thus some may not show willingness to write professional add-ons, but that's changing.
Thus I would like to give my full support to an angel who can and is willing to write and share a custom NVDA add-on for the app in question.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Well you probably should use jaws, people in companies use jaws for that and buy jaws scripts.

Nvda is opensource, I am not sure if anyone would do a payed addon well due to the opensource nature I don't even know if the licence terms allow for someone to make a payed addon for a single user.

True we have synths but even so.




On 10/01/2018 11:19 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I think at the moment if this is an in house piece of software its
going to be hard to do it, as really the employer needs to contact
somebody and pay for it to be done I'd suggest. In a small market like
one company, it is I think legitimate to expect it to be paid for as
usage is unlikely to be very large.

Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?


Hi,
I'm Daniele from Italy.

I need a new add-on for NVDA to make my job accessible. I'm not a
programmer and I don't know how to do.

I've tried to send an email to the man NVDA website, but I didn't
receive answer.

Do you know somebody offering this kind of service?

Thank you very much.

Daniele.




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Re: New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

 

But there in lies the problem.

We are opensource.

The addons by nature usually need to be free.

In house custom made software is for the company, and unless they do it themselves, it is unlikely they will let someone just get access to their secret software or code certainly even if they do that person would have an aggreement.

Suppose some testers need to test it, they can't.

I am not sure myself where this does it.

There are no rules saying you can't but who knows.

On 11/01/2018 9:45 p.m., Damien Garwood wrote:
Hi Shaun,
NVAccess itself is a registered charity. So while not a business, companies can be more or less be assured of its authenticity. What's more, they do paid support packages, and as they develop and update NVDA itself, I am sure, with appropriate funding, either from donations or as a paid service, they will be able to hire someone to script the necessary components, or else make it themselves.
As for licencing: I have actually often wondered that myself. Licences are far too legalese for me to understand the entire ins and outs, but my understanding is that the GPL forces you to make your software open source, meaning that a paid addon isn't an option unless the addon itself accesses a separate closed-source module. The GPL itself states that you can charge if you wish, but that makes no sense - if you charge someone for a piece of software, which has to be open source, then there is no copy-protection against that. I guess it means for instance if you are hired to make something which is GPL-compatible.
As it is, I don't mind. I choose NVDA over JAWS by principle, due to the fact that, not only does JAWS costs over thirty times more than a cheap monitor, but it also charges for upgrades...
I could rant on about JAWS all day - I've already had to remove four lines of ranting waffle. Bottom line is, NVDA could be closed-source and charged at £30, and I'd gladly get it. I'm not one of these "Everything has to be free!" people, but I do believe we should be able to get like for like in the field of accessibility. A screen reader gives information about the screen, so simple and idealistic logic should dictate that it should cost no more than a screen. I'm so grateful that NVDA has set a new precedence by going a few steps further and making it free and open-source, and I sincerely hope my donations over the years have proved that, at least to a degree.
Cheers.
Damien.
-----Original Message----- From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 1:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

The issue is that you need to get someone that writes scripts.

He/she needs to be exposed to the program in question and there is the
issue.

I am not sure if anyone of us have some sort of professional
qualification to write scripts for businesses.

We would need to see the software.

Business x will not give some little hacker on the big internet access
to their software or computer or anything without some assurance.

They will however give access to someone that handles jaws because jaws
is the way and has been for a while and has established writers.

We do ofcause have this for ourselves, but we are not a business, we are
an opensource organisation which just so happen to be able to handle
win10 and office as well as the os itself.

I doubt we could even handle custom software.

And what happens if something goes wrong, I doubt we could last any
sueing or anything.

This is new teritory, and I don't understand it at all.

Do we want to take the next step, vfo is a large established group, it
won't be long till someone suggests jaws.

I am not saying lie down and die but do we even have a strategy to
handle this.

TO the user that said most things are java based, maybe thats what we
must focus on next then.




On 11/01/2018 2:07 p.m., Norman wrote:
Hi.

The problem here is that i don't know who to ask to build a custom addon even if i want to.

I really wish for some field labeling in a program i use a lot but who does this kind of thing?

I know almost nothing about python development and even less about the nvda development structure so getting me to learn it with the limited time i have these days is pointless.


thanks.



On 1/10/2018 4:37 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
I usually don't respond like the one you read below, but I think it must be said:
All I can say is, "this is 2010's." I personally WILL NOT tolerate the kinds of sentiment expressed below. Statements such as, "if you want customized and paid scripts, use JAWS", is, to me, outright unacceptable. I might add that statements like the one I paraphrased is hindrance, not hope, and it builds barriers instead of opening the doors for many. I think one of the reasons why there's really no professional uptake for NVDA (for now) is that we are too comfortable with our comfort zones, thus some may not show willingness to write professional add-ons, but that's changing.
Thus I would like to give my full support to an angel who can and is willing to write and share a custom NVDA add-on for the app in question.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 1:03 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?

Well you probably should use jaws, people in companies use jaws for that and buy jaws scripts.

Nvda is opensource, I am not sure if anyone would do a payed addon well due to the opensource nature I don't even know if the licence terms allow for someone to make a payed addon for a single user.

True we have synths but even so.




On 10/01/2018 11:19 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I think at the moment if this is an in house piece of software its
going to be hard to do it, as really the employer needs to contact
somebody and pay for it to be done I'd suggest. In a small market like
one company, it is I think legitimate to expect it to be paid for as
usage is unlikely to be very large.

Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Daniele Casarola"
<casaroladaniele@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2018 7:26 AM
Subject: [nvda] New custom NVDA Add-on. Who ask to?


Hi,
I'm Daniele from Italy.

I need a new add-on for NVDA to make my job accessible. I'm not a
programmer and I don't know how to do.

I've tried to send an email to the man NVDA website, but I didn't
receive answer.

Do you know somebody offering this kind of service?

Thank you very much.

Daniele.




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Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [nvda] OK I give up, Github settings

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How have you achieved this?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kristin K" <kristin.knudson@cvshealth.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:13 PM
Subject: Re: [EXTERNAL] Re: [nvda] OK I give up, Github settings


I get mine.

Kristin Knudson | Senior Accessibility Analyst
c 410-294-3228

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 4:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [EXTERNAL] Re: [nvda] OK I give up, Github settings

No you will never get your own. I don't worry about that as I check he websie. But I alwasy assume they have ben sent.


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All I get is everyone elses posts and messages, not my own. Of course if you use google as an email providor you get your own emails back by default from google.
No it seems to be defaulted to only send emails not from you.
brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com<mailto:marrie12@gmail.com>>
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Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OK I give up, Github settings


It should just work. It does for me, and I don't remember setting anything up almost 8 or 9 years ago when I started using github.


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Somebody helpfully posted here a while ago some instructions on how to get githubs issue tracker to send out emails to the person who is sending either the originating post or and subsequent comments by them. I went to the place after logging in and set it to send me emails. its still not doing it on my account.
I go back in and cannot see what I set the last time.
I'd imagine if the system could be set so anyone who posts by email or puts in a comment on the site, who has an account for the list should automatically get the comment sent back as part of the list. That would seem common sense to me, but its not happening, so at the moment, after some months, maybe I accidentally find a comment to me saying can you tell us this or that. I post that via emai, but I've no idea if its actually on the site till I log in and go through the emails and posts.
If it came back in the list as it does here, I'd be more happy that I have actually done what was asked.
Anyone?
Brian

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Re: OK I give up, Github settings

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I was told you can set it so you do get your own. It is important for me to be able to hive off a thread from email if I never see my own half of it is missing.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 9:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OK I give up, Github settings


No you will never get your own. I don't worry about that as I check he websie. But I alwasy assume they have ben sent.

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All I get is everyone elses posts and messages, not my own. Of course if you use google as an email providor you get your own emails back by default from google.
No it seems to be defaulted to only send emails not from you.
brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com <mailto:marrie12@gmail.com>>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>>
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 6:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OK I give up, Github settings


It should just work. It does for me, and I don't remember setting anything up almost 8 or 9 years ago when I started using github.

On Jan 10, 2018, at 3:55 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Somebody helpfully posted here a while ago some instructions on how to get githubs issue tracker to send out emails to the person who is sending either the originating post or and subsequent comments by them. I went to the place after logging in and set it to send me emails. its still not doing it on my account.
I go back in and cannot see what I set the last time.
I'd imagine if the system could be set so anyone who posts by email or puts in a comment on the site, who has an account for the list should automatically get the comment sent back as part of the list. That would seem common sense to me, but its not happening, so at the moment, after some months, maybe I accidentally find a comment to me saying can you tell us this or that. I post that via emai, but I've no idea if its actually on the site till I log in and go through the emails and posts.
If it came back in the list as it does here, I'd be more happy that I have actually done what was asked.
Anyone?
Brian

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Re: Using Windows 10 calendar.

David Moore
 

Hi,

You bet it will!

You can ask Cortana to remind you as well.

To put the calendar into month view, it is Alt+CTRL+4 on the numbers row. It is not the command that I said in the last message.

Have a great one!

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Isige
Sent: Friday, January 12, 2018 1:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using Windows 10 calendar.

 

Thanks! Does it do reminders too? That is, if I set an event for next

Friday, will it make a sound or pop something up or whatever to remind

me that I have something coming up? Or will I just have to open it and

check every day?

 

 

On 1/11/2018 23:52, David Moore wrote:

> Hi!

> The Calendar app is very accessible that is built into windows 10.

> Just open it, and press Alt+F4 to get into month view, and you can

> arrow left and right to forward or backward by one day, and up and

> down arrow to go back a week or ahead a week.

> You can just enter on the day, and type your event in there, and press

> enter.

> When you arrow to a day, it will tell you how many events there are

> for that day. Just start tabbing to each event, and you can press

> enter to open that event!

> It is accessible with all screen readers.

> Have a great one,

> David Moore

> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

> Windows 10

> *From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@...>

> *Sent: *Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:53 PM

> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> *Subject: *[nvda] Using Windows 10 calendar.

> Anybody got anything on this? I swear I saw a post about it, unless I'm

> confusing it with mail, a while back. At the time I didn't need a

> calendar/reminder program, and now I do. I figure if Windows has got

> something built in, I may as well try that first.

>

 

 

 

 


Re: Using Windows 10 calendar.

John Isige
 

Thanks! Does it do reminders too? That is, if I set an event for next Friday, will it make a sound or pop something up or whatever to remind me that I have something coming up? Or will I just have to open it and check every day?

On 1/11/2018 23:52, David Moore wrote:

Hi!

The Calendar app is very accessible that is built into windows 10.

Just open it, and press Alt+F4 to get into month view, and you can arrow left and right to forward or backward by one day, and up and down arrow to go back a week or ahead a week.

You can just enter on the day, and type your event in there, and press enter.

When you arrow to a day, it will tell you how many events there are for that day. Just start tabbing to each event, and you can press enter to open that event!

It is accessible with all screen readers.

Have a great one,

David Moore

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

*From: *John Isige <mailto:gwynn@tds.net>
*Sent: *Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:53 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *[nvda] Using Windows 10 calendar.

Anybody got anything on this? I swear I saw a post about it, unless I'm

confusing it with mail, a while back. At the time I didn't need a

calendar/reminder program, and now I do. I figure if Windows has got

something built in, I may as well try that first.


Re: Using Windows 10 calendar.

David Moore
 

Hi!

The Calendar app is very accessible that is built into windows 10.

Just open it, and press Alt+F4 to get into month view, and you can arrow left and right to forward or backward by one day, and up and down arrow to go back a week or ahead a week.

You can just enter on the day, and type your event in there, and press enter.

When you arrow to a day, it will tell you how many events there are for that day. Just start tabbing to each event, and you can press enter to open that event!

It is accessible with all screen readers.

Have a great one,

David Moore

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: John Isige
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 10:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Using Windows 10 calendar.

 

Anybody got anything on this? I swear I saw a post about it, unless I'm

confusing it with mail, a while back. At the time I didn't need a

calendar/reminder program, and now I do. I figure if Windows has got

something built in, I may as well try that first.

 

 

 

 


Using Windows 10 calendar.

John Isige
 

Anybody got anything on this? I swear I saw a post about it, unless I'm confusing it with mail, a while back. At the time I didn't need a calendar/reminder program, and now I do. I figure if Windows has got something built in, I may as well try that first.


Re: trouble with signing in on windows 10

Jacob Kruger
 

In windows start menu search box, type in power options, and, look for the relevant control panel/settings item, and, in the window that should come up when you then hit enter, you can make changes to when the display turns off, when the PC locks itself, etc.


HTH


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile, but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2018/01/12 03:53, marvin kotler wrote:

Good evening list; first, running the latest nvda and windows 10 1709.  Was given this computer by a family member; it is a desktop.  The trouble I am having is when I sign into windows using a pin or four digits, that goes all right, but if I let the computer sit a few minutes, it returns back to default lock screen and I have to sign in again.  If anyone has any advice on how I can fix things so the computer keeps on running without me having to sign in again, I would like to know how to do this; thanks.
Marv


Re: trouble with signing in on windows 10

Gene
 

I don't know where this setting is and I don't have Windows 10 so I can't check.  But there is a setting you can change so Windows won't ask for a password when it comes out of the computer being locked.  You may want to turn both lock after a time of disuse off and also turn the logon requirement off.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 11, 2018 8:16 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] trouble with signing in on windows 10

Hi


depending what you do on my machine here i have it so when windows starts it just goes into windows and by passes the log on screen.


I do have direction of how to get rid of it if you want them on my website.


The second if i remember right can be found under the power managerment part in windows in the control panel


Or in the search box in windows type power m and it should come up with power management.  When you go into the power mangerment part i have it so my pc does not go to sleep or others set it for a hour etc You can also adjust it for the monitor etc which i make longer 2. Actually I just turn off the monitor for that most of the time.


gene nz

On 1/12/2018 2:53 PM, marvin kotler wrote:
Good evening list; first, running the latest nvda and windows 10 1709.  Was given this computer by a family member; it is a desktop.  The trouble I am having is when I sign into windows using a pin or four digits, that goes all right, but if I let the computer sit a few minutes, it returns back to default lock screen and I have to sign in again.  If anyone has any advice on how I can fix things so the computer keeps on running without me having to sign in again, I would like to know how to do this; thanks.
Marv

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: trouble with signing in on windows 10

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


depending what you do on my machine here i have it so when windows starts it just goes into windows and by passes the log on screen.


I do have direction of how to get rid of it if you want them on my website.


The second if i remember right can be found under the power managerment part in windows in the control panel


Or in the search box in windows type power m and it should come up with power management.  When you go into the power mangerment part i have it so my pc does not go to sleep or others set it for a hour etc You can also adjust it for the monitor etc which i make longer 2. Actually I just turn off the monitor for that most of the time.

 

gene nz

On 1/12/2018 2:53 PM, marvin kotler wrote:
Good evening list; first, running the latest nvda and windows 10 1709.  Was given this computer by a family member; it is a desktop.  The trouble I am having is when I sign into windows using a pin or four digits, that goes all right, but if I let the computer sit a few minutes, it returns back to default lock screen and I have to sign in again.  If anyone has any advice on how I can fix things so the computer keeps on running without me having to sign in again, I would like to know how to do this; thanks.
Marv

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


trouble with signing in on windows 10

marvin kotler
 

Good evening list; first, running the latest nvda and windows 10 1709.  Was given this computer by a family member; it is a desktop.  The trouble I am having is when I sign into windows using a pin or four digits, that goes all right, but if I let the computer sit a few minutes, it returns back to default lock screen and I have to sign in again.  If anyone has any advice on how I can fix things so the computer keeps on running without me having to sign in again, I would like to know how to do this; thanks.
Marv