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Re: Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

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WEll that depends. I don't think XP was as good at doing this as later versions of windows, but obviously its worth a try for a start. Certainly the very cheap creative usb audio dongle managed to work with apparently no software on xp, It was ok as anoutput device, but only had a microphone input, but what do you want for under15 uk pounds.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@ripco.com>
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Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 10:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard


That's a lot of work without trying other options first. We don't know what has been removed but if you have a USB sound card or headphones, connecting them may give you sound. You can buy cheap sound cards for ten U.S. dollars or perhaps less so you can try the experiment for little expense if you don't currently have a sound card. Or you might be able to borrow a sound card or USB headphones.

Gene
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From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 2:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard


I would simply reformat the system and next time don't kill everything




On 10/10/2017 8:27 a.m., Howard Traxler wrote:
I have an older computer running windows XP. Being totally stupid, I
deleted the audio drivers and lots of other stuff that might have been
necessary to run things. It seems that it boots ok but now I'd like
to get it to talk or even to run its alva braille display. I think I
have JAWS 9 on it--which, of course, won't talk or display. But now,
I've created a portable copy of NVDA, thinking that maybe I can
somehow make the machine talk enough to get its drivers back and make
it talk normally again.

Any ideas about this situation? Thank you anybody.

Howard




Re: Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

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Not of much use but way back in the old xt pc days there was a very primative interrrupt driven program that could make the internal pc speaker talk. The snag with it was that in order to do so it pulsed the speaker and took over most of the power of the machine to do it. Totally impractical and sounded very awful.
When cheap sound cards came along the difference was amazing.
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Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard


Agreed. I remember when I made such a mistake almost 20 years ago. Lesson learned.

Take care and be blessed all.

On Oct 9, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

I would simply reformat the system and next time don't kill everything




On 10/10/2017 8:27 a.m., Howard Traxler wrote:
I have an older computer running windows XP. Being totally stupid, I deleted the audio drivers and lots of other stuff that might have been necessary to run things. It seems that it boots ok but now I'd like to get it to talk or even to run its alva braille display. I think I have JAWS 9 on it--which, of course, won't talk or display. But now, I've created a portable copy of NVDA, thinking that maybe I can somehow make the machine talk enough to get its drivers back and make it talk normally again.

Any ideas about this situation? Thank you anybody.

Howard




Re: Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

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Chuckle, Yes never burn your bridges before you are on the other side. If its not that old, you might wish to try windows 7 sp1 instead. Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard


I would simply reformat the system and next time don't kill everything




On 10/10/2017 8:27 a.m., Howard Traxler wrote:
I have an older computer running windows XP. Being totally stupid, I deleted the audio drivers and lots of other stuff that might have been necessary to run things. It seems that it boots ok but now I'd like to get it to talk or even to run its alva braille display. I think I have JAWS 9 on it--which, of course, won't talk or display. But now, I've created a portable copy of NVDA, thinking that maybe I can somehow make the machine talk enough to get its drivers back and make it talk normally again.

Any ideas about this situation? Thank you anybody.

Howard




Re: Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

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I think you are going to need sighted help or a very accommodating cd with the old drivers on it.
Of course you are aware you are now stuck on the 2017.3 version of nvda, or some of the early master and next snaps before the xp system was left behind.

I'm just trying to recall if there used to be some very primitive sound drivers in the windows installer disk. If so it might be possible to use those, but I do not see any way around the problem that to drive the system to install them is going to need sighted help.
Depending on what else is on the system if you do have the media to reinstall and a sighted person then do that.
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Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 8:27 PM
Subject: [nvda] Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard


I have an older computer running windows XP. Being totally stupid, I deleted the audio drivers and lots of other stuff that might have been necessary to run things. It seems that it boots ok but now I'd like to get it to talk or even to run its alva braille display. I think I have JAWS 9 on it--which, of course, won't talk or display. But now, I've created a portable copy of NVDA, thinking that maybe I can somehow make the machine talk enough to get its drivers back and make it talk normally again.

Any ideas about this situation? Thank you anybody.

Howard


Re: windows 10 and quentin c’s game room

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That would point to something very strange going on. I know for example that some of those tools for looking at passwords etc, seem to be hit both on incoming and scans or installers. I've had to tell it to ignore one three times.
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Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 8:02 PM
Subject: Re: [NVdA] windows 10 and quentin c’s game room


Know it would not
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Would this not find it again when you try to install it though?
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Subject: Re: [NVdA] windows 10 and quentin c’s game room


OK hears how to fix this trouble once and for all.
You need to go into your windows defender settings and add your down
loads folder to your exclude list and that should fix the trouble . I hope
that this helps.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] windows 10 and quentin c’s game room

Don't know this one. I guess one might judge how good their security and
audience response is by your own experience. If they cannot be bothered to
respond to legitimate concerns, should you even trust that they have not
been hacked. I certainly would not trust such sites, no matter how well
respected the author was.Its the system admins of the site that should be
looking into this as I'd suggest lots of people will use defender/msse
since avast seems to want to take over the universe and make everything non
blind accessible.
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From: " Rebecca Ilniski " <rilniski@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2017 8:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] windows 10 and quentin c’s game room


Hi everyone. I’m using the latest NVDA and windows 10. I want to install
quentin c’sgame room. When I go to download it, my windows defender finds a
trojan win 32 in the file. Anyideawhat I should do because I really would
like to play. I did contact the website team but haven’t heard anything yet.
If you have this software did you have this problem and if so what did you
do?

Rebecca and Zeb
email: rilniski@gmail.com
Twitter: applegirl1994

On Oct 8, 2017, at 3:49 PM, Adriani Botez <adriani.botez@gmail.com> wrote:

I work with nvda in sap and it works great. Gor some purposes I an using
jaws though, together with the screen reader extension which can be
downloaded from the Sap market place and which is free.


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 08.10.2017 um 21:38 schrieb Arno Schuh <arno.schuh@in-trier.de>:

Cobra is available since about 2009. Not from the 90s. It merged from
Blindows (Frank Audiodata) and Virgo (from Baum Retec).
And if you use SAP applications at work you need somebody who can write
the needed scripts to use the SAP applications of your employer.
Who does such things with NVDA? If possible at all to use NVDA with SAP.

Am Sonntag, 8. Oktober 2017 20:08 schrieb Adriani Botez
<adriani.botez@gmail.com>:

I have tried to work with Cobra, but it requires huge power. And I
think in Germany there is a really small group of people who use it,
especially people who began working with it in the 90s or so. Ther
are very rare updates on it, if so at all.

I have a Laptop with Intel Kabilake quadcore 3 GHZ, 16 GB Ram and one
Terabyte SSD hard disk and Cobra still causes big crashes on my
laptop when doing complex tasks. It happens when running jaws as well
but that may occure due to old pieces of code which have not
completely been removed from the source code yet. It is much better
though. NVDA does its job quite good without causing any crashes.

But for every day tasks, NVDA and Jaws are prety the same and crashes
are not occurring at all, or at least not caused by the
screenreaders.


Best
Adriani

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Gesendet: Sonntag, 8. Oktober 2017 05:13
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] A question for users of multiple screenreaders.

I installed cobra, but I just couldn't get it to do anything useful.
It acted like a microsoft product, in that it took over everything,
(and I mean everything), I couldn't get out of it to do anything
else, even when I didn't want to use cobra, I had one heck of a time
getting it to go away so I could start NVDA. Plus, it's keystrokes
are all completely different, and I couldn't manage to get the hang
of it. It looks decent enough, other than the whole taking over your
machine and not allowing you to use anything else thing anyway, but
for me the experience wasn't a very good one, so I finally managed to
get it uninstalled, and I don't plan to try it again. Cobra is made
by a german company. I don't rmemeber what it cost (if I ever knew),
but the demo did not strike me as being the kind of thing I needed,
so I didn't bother to follow up with anything regarding cobra. Your
mileage may vary of course, andyou're of course encouraged to try it
out for yourself, don't just rely on my experiences.


On 10/7/2017 4:27 PM, John Isige wrote:
Quite right! I didn't mention many other screenreaders because, I
suspect for many on the list, jaws is the other screenreader they're
likely to install, at least, that's my recollection of people who've
advocated for multiple screenreaders. Plus Narrator is built right
into Windows, so you always have it whether you want it or not, so to
speak. You don't have to do anything particularly special about it,
it's nothing you have to go and find and install.

I'm also not sure how fully-featured Narrator is, though I understand
they're really working on improving it. I did see an older article
the other day where somebody claimed to be using it as their primary
screenreader, they were quite taken with the idea that it was the
only one that worked with Microsoft Edge. But I keep hearing
conflicting opinions, some say Microsoft intends for Narrator to be
a full-fledged screenreader at some point, others say that's not
what they're trying to do at all. But anyway, it wasn't my intent to
slight Narrator, or any other screenreader for that matter. By all
means, if you've got experiences with something that does something
NVDA can't, in terms of accessibility to a particular program or
something, I'd love to hear it. The other day for instance, I saw
reference to a screenreader called Cobra. I've never even heard of
it before and have no idea if it's still being used, but if you use
Cobra and it gave you access to an antivirus program NVDA doesn't,
for example, I would love to hear about it.













Re: failure when installing Microsoft Speech Platform Voices

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Has anything been run like for example a registry cleaner? There were issues about getting the 32 bit and 64 bit parts mixed up I seem to recall, but the web site seems to suggest it will work on 10, it certainly does on 7.
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Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 7:41 PM
Subject: [nvda] failure when installing Microsoft Speech Platform Voices


A few days ago I asked about installing Microsoft Speech Platform voices.

The synthesizer shows up in my list of options, but when I select it, I get an error message telling me that it cannot be loaded.

Any suggestions?

Thanks.

Vicki


Re: something people should be aware of

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Hi


It says it in the link that was given. It is going to be part of skype but looks more like the metro apps at present. We will find out shortly how much it gets used .


I will be looking forwards to playing with it not much different from using a voice assistant on your phone i guess.


Gene nz



On 10/10/2017 3:19 PM, zahra wrote:
hi.
i opened the link and only the informations were about cortana!
where can i read the informations about skype?

On 10/10/17, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:
Hi


does not worry me. At present it will be for apple devices and android
ones.it did not mention windows devices nor windows computers as of yet.


it does not say any thing about the desk top version of skype either.


Gene nz


On 10/10/2017 1:55 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

was reading skype blogs and found this.

https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/10/09/introducing-cortana-skype-microsofts-intelligent-assistant-comes-chat-window/

I really hope that there will be a way to make this shove right off if one
wants to.

There is nothing worse than something bringing up suggestions and thinking
what to say, if I want this now then I can put several bits of spyware and
ransom ware on my system, and forget about skype.

While I see a benifit in this, I really hope we can envoke this at will, if
not then maybe I will have to use windows xp for skype instead <sigh>






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Re: How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


the edge browser does not open even if i click on a pdf file i stopped that when it first happened. It only opens in adobe reader now and also disabled opening a pdf document in a browsers that i use.


Gene nz



On 10/10/2017 4:27 PM, Roger Stewart wrote:
This won't work in Win 10!  Edge is so aggressive it takes control of PDF files even if you have Firefox as your default browser.  I've found no way around this except to copy a link to your desired pdf reader into your sento folder and then it will appear in the context menu.  Then you do a right click or application key and arrow to open with and then choose Acrobat Reader to open it.

Roger









On 10/9/2017 5:04 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

hi


the first thing i would do is in the defaults apps change the browser from edge to another one. that should stop it from opening in edge.


use the windows key + letter I then go to apps press enter key then down to default apps. Locate the browser and change it from edge to another if on there.


the next thing i would do is locate the pdf document then use the applications key. Arrow down to open with adobe dc reader then press the enter key It may give you the option to keep it as default.


It not there it should give you the option to choose another app then press the enter key. Under the list there pick adobe dc reader then the next time you tab it will give you the option a check box to use that program every time make sure it is checked then tab down to ok and press the enter key.


Now you should be right.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 10/10/2017 10:47 AM, Nevzat Adil wrote:
Hello everyone,

I have no idea how it happened, but for sometime now Microsoft Edge
reads my PDF files instead of Acrobat Reader DC, something I do not
caer for.
I'd like to set Acrobat Reader DC as my default reader for PDF files.
Will someone instruct me how to do this?
My screen reader is NVDA and  OS Windows 10.
Thanks.
Nevzat




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Re: looking for a ocr program for a flat bed canner

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


Is your software for your scanner not accessible? or did you pick one up without the software?


The software i actually brought when it was 30 kiwi dollars was the knfb reader software. it works well on my windows 10 machine. Because i already own it i can not tell you what the current price is for it. It works well with my scanners and my camera.


But the question was not for ocr software you pay for.


Do you want to just scan it or do you want to also ocr it? so you can get the text out of it.


Windows comes with scanner and fax software that should work with your scanner.


I know i have also after she has scanned it used the nvda ocr thingy to rip the text out of it but is only a page at a time. Still good if it is just a bill.


I just had a look and there is menus there you can navigate with nvda. How ever i did not do a scan with it but am guessing it will for you.


Otherwise i use the knfb reader software.


There should be some others that are free.


I have used some others before but forget there names. Maybe some one else can point you in the right direction but will depend if it is through the store or via the net.


Gene nz

On 10/10/2017 7:12 PM, Bobby Vinton wrote:

Hay I was wondering iif you know of any free scanning soft ware to scan news papers or just mail.  Pleese let me know if any of you find any thing that will work with windows 10

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


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Re: Please, give me your LibreOffice issues

Quentin Christensen
 

Thanks Zahra and Michael,

Zahra, I know I have some of yours already so I've set your comments aside so I get everything once in one list.

Also re that say all issue, I found in the LibreOffice bugs, a reference to an earlier issue of ours (filed for Open Office) re the say all bug, so I've closed the later issue on our system (the one you commented on Zahra), referring back to the earlier one - It doesn't mean it's fixed, or that it won't be, just keeping everything tidy, and yes, I agree with both of you, this is one of the more important issues with NVDA in LibreOffice.

Michael, re enhancements, no problem, keep them coming - and indeed, catching up to features in Microsoft Office is quite a reasonable request.

Regards

Quentin.

On Tue, Oct 10, 2017 at 4:55 PM, Michel Such <michel.such@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin,


Obviously, the first issue is with sayAll which stops at the first paragraph boundary, and the same problem happens when scrolling with braille.

Then, it would be nice if we could have the same navigation facilities we have for example in MSWord (quick navigation etc), but these are more enhancements than issues.




Le 10/10/2017 à 03:08, Quentin Christensen a écrit :
Hi everyone,

I'm having a look at our LibreOffice issues, and also LibreOffice's NVDA issues.  So, if anyone has any bugs or issues with LibreOffice and NVDA, now would be a great time to raise them so I can capture the current state of play.

I have been working through our issues tagged with LibreOffice: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/labels/libreoffice

and The Document Foundation's issues with NVDA: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=nvda

If you haven't already reported an issue in either of those places, even if you've previously raised it here, please let me know, just to make sure I don't miss it.

Regards

Quentin.

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Re: something people should be aware of

 

True jean.

And it looks like in any case ms seem to be on the verge of chucking that away.

Hopefully before it does die I will be able to get the full link.

I really do hope that skype classic can be kept about even if it was only for those that liked the classic interface.

For myself skype is reasonably rocky as it is.

The only reason its at all accessible as I stay within the contacts and message group tabs.

Get past the main tab tree and its a mess.

On 10/10/2017 2:09 p.m., Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi


does not worry me. At present it will be for apple devices and android ones.it did not mention windows devices nor windows computers as of yet.


it does not say any thing about the desk top version of skype either.


Gene nz


On 10/10/2017 1:55 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi.

was reading skype blogs and found this.

https://blogs.skype.com/news/2017/10/09/introducing-cortana-skype-microsofts-intelligent-assistant-comes-chat-window/

I really hope that there will be a way to make this shove right off if one wants to.

There is nothing worse than something bringing up suggestions and thinking what to say, if I want this now then I can put several bits of spyware and ransom ware on my system, and forget about skype.

While I see a benifit in this, I really hope we can envoke this at will, if not then maybe I will have to use windows xp for skype instead <sigh>






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looking for a ocr program for a flat bed canner

Bobby Vinton
 

Hay I was wondering iif you know of any free scanning soft ware to scan news papers or just mail.  Pleese let me know if any of you find any thing that will work with windows 10

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Please, give me your LibreOffice issues

Michel Such
 

Hi Quentin,


Obviously, the first issue is with sayAll which stops at the first paragraph boundary, and the same problem happens when scrolling with braille.

Then, it would be nice if we could have the same navigation facilities we have for example in MSWord (quick navigation etc), but these are more enhancements than issues.




Le 10/10/2017 à 03:08, Quentin Christensen a écrit :
Hi everyone,

I'm having a look at our LibreOffice issues, and also LibreOffice's NVDA issues.  So, if anyone has any bugs or issues with LibreOffice and NVDA, now would be a great time to raise them so I can capture the current state of play.

I have been working through our issues tagged with LibreOffice: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/labels/libreoffice

and The Document Foundation's issues with NVDA: https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=nvda

If you haven't already reported an issue in either of those places, even if you've previously raised it here, please let me know, just to make sure I don't miss it.

Regards

Quentin.

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Re: Resilio Sync Service?

Bobby Vinton
 

Well I don’t like resilio sync service at all because you have to get a computer pass word to use it.  Butt You should try sync thing.  Sync thing is just like bittorrent sync butt it is web based and you down load it as a zip file and just install it as a portible version.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Earle Zwicker
Sent: Monday, October 9, 2017 11:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Resilio Sync Service?

 

How did you get resillio to work in Windows? I haven't had any luck with it. The only way I could get it to work was to set it up as a service.

 

Earle

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

> On Oct 9, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Matt Turner <meturner2214@...> wrote:

>

> Hi folks.

>

> I got it working under windows.

>

> I'm using the web GUI, but there are a few things confusing me on the local page.

>

> Anyone else use this?

>

>

>

>

 

 

 


Re: Resilio Sync Service?

Earle Zwicker
 

How did you get resillio to work in Windows? I haven't had any luck with it. The only way I could get it to work was to set it up as a service.

Earle

Sent from my iPhone

On Oct 9, 2017, at 11:00 AM, Matt Turner <meturner2214@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi folks.

I got it working under windows.

I'm using the web GUI, but there are a few things confusing me on the local page.

Anyone else use this?




Re: How to set Acrobat Reader DC for PDF files

Roger Stewart
 

This won't work in Win 10!  Edge is so aggressive it takes control of PDF files even if you have Firefox as your default browser.  I've found no way around this except to copy a link to your desired pdf reader into your sento folder and then it will appear in the context menu.  Then you do a right click or application key and arrow to open with and then choose Acrobat Reader to open it.

Roger









On 10/9/2017 5:04 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

hi


the first thing i would do is in the defaults apps change the browser from edge to another one. that should stop it from opening in edge.


use the windows key + letter I then go to apps press enter key then down to default apps. Locate the browser and change it from edge to another if on there.


the next thing i would do is locate the pdf document then use the applications key. Arrow down to open with adobe dc reader then press the enter key It may give you the option to keep it as default.


It not there it should give you the option to choose another app then press the enter key. Under the list there pick adobe dc reader then the next time you tab it will give you the option a check box to use that program every time make sure it is checked then tab down to ok and press the enter key.


Now you should be right.


hope it helps.


Gene nz



On 10/10/2017 10:47 AM, Nevzat Adil wrote:
Hello everyone,

I have no idea how it happened, but for sometime now Microsoft Edge
reads my PDF files instead of Acrobat Reader DC, something I do not
caer for.
I'd like to set Acrobat Reader DC as my default reader for PDF files.
Will someone instruct me how to do this?
My screen reader is NVDA and  OS Windows 10.
Thanks.
Nevzat




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Re: Windows 10 is Very, Very Broken

 

just disable active x in your browser completely and dont worry about anything!
God bless you all!

On 10/10/17, Kenny Peyattt jr. <p.wildcat1234@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi Noah Have you got a iso on a flash drive to boot from and reformat?
Kenny Peyatt jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, October 04, 2017 7:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows 10 is Very, Very Broken

You might have to reformat. Are you backed up?

Take care.

On Oct 4, 2017, at 2:26 PM, Noah Carver via Groups.Io
<ntclists=aol.com@groups.io> wrote:

Hello List,

So, my Windows 10 is really pitching a fit! This all started when I had to
forse shut down my win10 machine using the power butten, because of a
total system hang. Then, I turned the machine back on. But NVDA did not
come back to life. I tried turning on Narrator, and it wouldn't talk.
So I asked my dad to come and look at my screen. According to him, even
when I pressed keys on the keyboard, the log in box wouldn't appear.
I've tried ctrl alt del, I’ve tried rebooting, nothing works. Any help
would be greatly appreciated. I have a radio show in two days, and I have
no backup machine.

Cheers,

Noah Carver








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Re: Getting NVDA to Talk without sound caard

 

hi.
just reinstall your sound card driver by the help of one sighted person!
hope that help, God bless you.

On 10/10/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
The thing that you need to know is that windows 3.1 in fact up to 98se
did not use any services as such.

You could delete just about anything and almost everything and it would
run fine.

They were just advanced dos shells.

From xp up this changed a lot.

You need a lot of services and startups and tasks a lot of things.

if you kill everything things will not work.

If you have backups its another thing but you must not kill things for
no reason.

User accounts are quite hardy things but they can be dammaged by malware
or if you delete any tasks or registry entries for them with hex values.

You can also corrupt them if you try to transfer things without doing it
the propper way.

In win10, you should be able to make windows store the data most of it
in another location leaving it able for you to clear the data folders of
files if you so choose and leave the settings alone.

However even if you can do it, chances are you are messing it by just
doing so.

I do family work a lot of computer stuff and one of my uncles had a
virus which mangled his account.

In another case my uncle the same one decided to transfer his account
without doing the proper procedure, that is, make an account log in,
then restart, log in, and set permitions for the other folders, move the
account to another account, login with that, clear the temp and the
other account.

Then reinstall any user apps that use the account spacifically and then
the thing works.

For those using office running things will just for most programs just
transfer them over and make new settings.

He didn't do any of this and just because he could transfered the entire
thing over.

And it worked, except that it didn't the new account was broken and the
other account was more broken.

The system guy he brought the system from suggested he reformat.

He didn't have time so took the system to me.

In both cases I had to recreate the 2 user accounts, reinstall all the
user apps mainly dropbox google drive and other cloud services that were
effected then everything else just worked.

It took me 2-3 hours each time.

Now if you have a second drive in the box and configure things then its
possible to simply do what he did but remember that you must make a new
account and never transfer settings at all.




On 10/10/2017 10:20 a.m., Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Agreed. I remember when I made such a mistake almost 20 years ago. Lesson
learned.

Take care and be blessed all.

On Oct 9, 2017, at 12:33 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

I would simply reformat the system and next time don't kill everything




On 10/10/2017 8:27 a.m., Howard Traxler wrote:
I have an older computer running windows XP. Being totally stupid, I
deleted the audio drivers and lots of other stuff that might have been
necessary to run things. It seems that it boots ok but now I'd like to
get it to talk or even to run its alva braille display. I think I have
JAWS 9 on it--which, of course, won't talk or display. But now, I've
created a portable copy of NVDA, thinking that maybe I can somehow make
the machine talk enough to get its drivers back and make it talk
normally again.

Any ideas about this situation? Thank you anybody.

Howard





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www.al-islam.org


Re: screen readers

 

hi.
just set screen saver to none and read any pages that you need with sayAll.
nvda stopss working after some minutes when you use sayAll, if screen
saver is active, says unknown and you need to press insert or capslock
plus down arrow keys to continue reading.
i use windows xp and dont know where exactly screen saver is, but you
can search and find it easily,
for me who use xp, screen saver is in control panel, display, settings.
hope that help,
God bless you!

On 10/10/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
In NVDA, you can't use numpad end as a part of the read status line command.
You can use either insert but you would use end on the main keyboard.

Many commands are the same or similar between JAWS and NVDA when using the
desktop layout. I don't use the laptop layout and I can't comment on that.


Rather than change or try to change many commands in NVDA, I think your time
would be far better used learning the NVDA commands.

Read to end, using the default desktop layout is NVDA key, which by default
is either insert, down arrow. Not down arrow on the numpad, down arrow on
the main keyboard. That's roughly equivalent to the command people use in
JAWS for read to end. People generally use nnumpad insert numpad down arrow
for read to end. In NVDA, you are using down arrow on the main keyboard.
You can't use down arrow on the numpad because NVDA uses that command for
read current character. I gave the read status line command before and you
use end on the main keyboard for the same reason. The numpad end key is
used for screen review.

If you aren't well familiar with NVDA commands, you may change commands only
to find later you have stopped important other commands you want to use. I
would strongly recommend against changing commands until you know NVDA well
enough to understand what the consequences may be.

If you want to know where to see NVDA commands listed in the NVDA
documentation, list members can discuss that. But in general, I believe it
is better, and it may be significantly better depending on what you are
using and how, to learn the actual screen-reader commands and only then
making changes if still desired.

I went through unnecessary work when I was learning NVDA to change the read
to end command. I didn't know that you can set the caps lock key to work as
an NVDA key. So I changed Read to end to a command I liked more only to
find it was unnecessary as I learned more about NVDA. Once I found out
about using the caps lock as an NVDA key, I started using caps lock down
arrow for read to end, which is as convenient as the command I wasted time
setting before I knew about the caps lock.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Monte Single
Sent: Monday, October 09, 2017 6:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] screen readers


I use insert plus end to hear number of messages. A lot of the key strokes
are the same especially for all the basic windows stuff, reading documents,
folders, lists, and web pages.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Karim
Lakhani
Sent: October-09-17 4:44 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] screen readers



Hello all,

Can I get NVDA to use jaws commands?

when it comes to navigating data?

I know that window eyes had a setting to configure the setting like you
were using the jaws program?

NVDA works real well but not having the experience like checking messages,
like you do with jaws.

insert down always gave the amount of messages.

I'm not sure why I'm having a real hard time with NVDA not being my primary
synthesizers.

thanks for the list and as a Canadian happy thanks giving!



Thanks.





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$$$$

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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
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best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: Please, give me your LibreOffice issues

 

hi quentin.
i reported some bugs in libreoffice including not supporting sayAll,
issues with diacritics, etc.
but i have issues with reading footnotes and i dont know if its
reported previously or not.

i am not familiar with tables, but i read in the list that there are
some accessibility issues using tables in libreoffice.
i also think that offline help is not accessible for screen reader
users and i reported it previously.
also in the list i read that libreoffice has issues with spell checker
for accessibility usage.
i now remember these things, but i remember that i reported many
things and i dont remember them at the moment.

On 10/10/17, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi everyone,

I'm having a look at our LibreOffice issues, and also LibreOffice's NVDA
issues. So, if anyone has any bugs or issues with LibreOffice and NVDA,
now would be a great time to raise them so I can capture the current state
of play.

I have been working through our issues tagged with LibreOffice:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/labels/libreoffice

and The Document Foundation's issues with NVDA:
https://bugs.documentfoundation.org/buglist.cgi?quicksearch=nvda

If you haven't already reported an issue in either of those places, even if
you've previously raised it here, please let me know, just to make sure I
don't miss it.

Regards

Quentin.

--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org