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problems with nvda 2017-4 the new update?

Rusty Perez
 

Hi folks, I just updated to the latest NVDA and I'm having some issues
but I'm not sure if it's user error.

Navigating by headings on google and amazon seems to be goofed up.
Yesterday it was fine, today, after the update there seems to be a
problem.

Is any one else having difficulty?

I just went to the NVDA page to find this email list, and navigating
by headings on that page is no problem. Was there a change at Google
or amazon, or an issue with NVDA or theoretically a problem with my
pc?



Thanks!
Rusty


Anyone with a Text File of All NVDA Desktop Commands?

Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
 

It's me again.

Well I'm up-and-running with NVDA.

It's so hard to get use to the different lingo for the reading cursors though.

Still can't figure out what's NVDA's equivalent to JAWS' Virtual cursor. Thinking it's the Review cursor? Can't figure out a way of activating it though. With JAWS I only need tap the [Plus] key on the numpad to activate the Virtual cursor while in a web page.

Yes, that's the reading cursor I use the most (Always reading stuff on-line via Google Chrome.

Guess if I had a text file listing only the Desktop keys for all the various reading/navigation functions of NVDA, I could pick this stuff up a whole lot quicker.

Thanks for any help.


Re: ocr function in nvda.

 

You can get KNFB Reader from here:
https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/store/p/knfb-reader-enterprise/9nblggh5308l
It does a very good job in reading those kinds of image files.
I also have not been able to get NVDA OCR to read image files.
KNFB Reader does the job.

On 12/7/17, Jason Milyo <kb3icc@gmail.com> wrote:
Yeah I have the same issue, it says when the PDF is in an image empty
document this document is in another format which the screen reader cant
read, and when you try to OCR it it only reads part of the document, however
when the document isn’t in an image format it reads the PDF fine.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Karim Lakhani
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 2:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] ocr function in nvda.

Sorry I forgot to change the subject line in my last message asking for help
with a PDF doc.
Hi all,
Does NVDA have a built in OCR feature?
I've got a PDF file which I can't read because it was sent in a PDF format?
Any suggestions on other ideas?
I've heard jaws has this feature does any one know how well it works?
Thanks.


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Re: Design Help, Please

tonea.ctr.morrow@...
 

You have been send a copy!

 

Tonea Morrow

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rayn Darren
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 2:04 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Design Help, Please

 

Hi, I’d be willing to help out too if you would like. Is it possible to see it in action along with the code or is this a private network?

 

Happy to help,

Rayn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of tonea.ctr.morrow@...
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 10:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Design Help, Please

 

I’ve sent you and Gene a private email with sample files. Check your junk folder if you didn’t get it. –Thanks!

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 10:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Design Help, Please

 

Hi Tonea,

Can you provide me (offlist) with a sample of a help documentation that is written with that program? That way I can figure out what’s up and provide suggestions (when sending samples, I prefer HTML or docx).

If links to sections are images and are coded with HTML, then alt text (alternative text) should work across browsers. A good example that illustrate this principle is mobile Twitter page (m.twitter.com) where different Twitter actions are graphics yet NVDA will announce labels. Another example, although a bit more technical, is Python documentation (docs.python.org).

P.S. There is another reason why I request sending samples to me offlist, and that’s for career reasons.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of tonea.ctr.morrow@...
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 6:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Design Help, Please

 

Hello,

 

I’m in the United States, Central time, so it just turned 8 a.m. I’ll be available until 3 p.m.

 

My problem is this, I design help files that accompany software. I want to make sure what I design is readable to screen readers.

 

Having no sensory input problems, I designed the help system for such as myself. Many pages of the help system have a copy of the home screen at the top. It has hot hyperlinks over the image. Thus the viewer can see a typical home screen and select the text or button with which they want help. This enables them to quickly jump to that help page.

 

Now I’m going back and making these things friendly to screen readers. I know they read alt text, which means I need to break apart the image and reassemble it so each text area (which has a hyperlink on top) has its own alt text.

 

Not knowing how screen readers work, is that the best method? I need something that will work with the most common screen readers. If they read hyperlink text, does breaking the image apart just create more reading? Am I cluttering the audible page with this approach? Or, should I have my hyperlinks have their own tooltips? The maker of the software I use, Help and Manual, has made the offer:

 

Begin Quote: It's important to remember that every graphic can only have one tooltip. You can add additional tooltips with hotspot links, but they currently only have the tip in a title= attribute, not in an alt= attribute (let us know if screen readers need that as well and we'll add it). However, if you add hotspot tooltips the hotspots are not really part of the image. They are in a special "image map" that positions their clickable areas over the image. If you are going to use hotspots to implement multiple tooltips in a single graphic it would be important to test it out with current screen readers first to see how they handle them -- they would need to read the image maps in the "correct" order and respond accordingly.

 

--Tim Green, Monday, November 27, 2017, 5:29 p.m. End Quote

 

So, H&M is willing to add alt=attribute support, if it will help the screen readers process an image map better than a tiled image.

 

I thought I’d ask experts, since I don’t know. What do you think?

 

Tonea Morrow

 

Tonea Morrow

Technical Writer

MCSG/SAIC | Desk: 405-954-7152

MMAC: Base Maintenance Building 15

Enterprise Services Center (ESC)

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Availability (appointments outside these)

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Tu

7:30 a – 3:30p

We

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Re: pdf and OCR

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


you will notice in the latest version of nvda there should be a menu called windows 10 ocr i think it is. Locate that and set your language.


After that make sure the item you want is in focus then use the nvda key + letter R

It will start recognizing what ever it is say a pdf and when finished it will bring up a little window. Here you can use your arrow keys etc to navigate the text etc. It can also be copied and pasted etc.


To be on the safe side make sure you have the latest version of nvda so that feature is in it. I do not think that feature was windows version pacific so that feature was in nvda.


Gene nz



On 12/8/2017 8:57 AM, Karim Lakhani wrote:
Yes I do  have a win 10 system and the latest version of NVDA, can you please tell me how to invoke this feature?
Thanks.
 
 
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trouble downloading 2017.4

Hi


nzGene.iteverwhatocrtoRletter+keynvdatheuseversion10windowsthewithDo you have a windows 10 machine if so NVDA has a ocr function built into it.


Earlier versions of Windows it is a separate add on you need to install.


if it is the second one to read the text it is done on the numeric keypad.


If it is the first one it brings the text into a window and can be navigated with arrow keys nzGene.


Also


On 12/8/2017 8:34 AM, Karim Lakhani wrote:
Hi all,
Does NVDA have a built in OCR feature?
I've got a PDF file which I can't read because it was sent in a PDF format?
Any suggestions on other ideas?
I've heard jaws has this feature does any one know how well it works?
Thanks.
 

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Design Help, Please

Rayn Darren
 

Hi, I’d be willing to help out too if you would like. Is it possible to see it in action along with the code or is this a private network?

 

Happy to help,

Rayn

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of tonea.ctr.morrow@...
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 10:07 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Design Help, Please

 

I’ve sent you and Gene a private email with sample files. Check your junk folder if you didn’t get it. –Thanks!

 

Tonea Morrow

Technical Writer

MCSG/SAIC | Desk: 405-954-7152

MMAC: Base Maintenance Building 15

Enterprise Services Center (ESC)

6500 S. MacArthur Blvd, OKC, OK  73169

tonea.ctr.morrow@... | www.esc.gov

Availability (appointments outside these)

Mo

7a – 5 p

If I take a lunch, I’ll be here later. If I take a kid to a doctor, I’ll be here later on Friday.

Tu

7:30 a – 3:30p

We

7:30 a – 3p

Th

7:30 a – 3:30p

Fr

7:30 a – 2p

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 10:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Design Help, Please

 

Hi Tonea,

Can you provide me (offlist) with a sample of a help documentation that is written with that program? That way I can figure out what’s up and provide suggestions (when sending samples, I prefer HTML or docx).

If links to sections are images and are coded with HTML, then alt text (alternative text) should work across browsers. A good example that illustrate this principle is mobile Twitter page (m.twitter.com) where different Twitter actions are graphics yet NVDA will announce labels. Another example, although a bit more technical, is Python documentation (docs.python.org).

P.S. There is another reason why I request sending samples to me offlist, and that’s for career reasons.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of tonea.ctr.morrow@...
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 6:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Design Help, Please

 

Hello,

 

I’m in the United States, Central time, so it just turned 8 a.m. I’ll be available until 3 p.m.

 

My problem is this, I design help files that accompany software. I want to make sure what I design is readable to screen readers.

 

Having no sensory input problems, I designed the help system for such as myself. Many pages of the help system have a copy of the home screen at the top. It has hot hyperlinks over the image. Thus the viewer can see a typical home screen and select the text or button with which they want help. This enables them to quickly jump to that help page.

 

Now I’m going back and making these things friendly to screen readers. I know they read alt text, which means I need to break apart the image and reassemble it so each text area (which has a hyperlink on top) has its own alt text.

 

Not knowing how screen readers work, is that the best method? I need something that will work with the most common screen readers. If they read hyperlink text, does breaking the image apart just create more reading? Am I cluttering the audible page with this approach? Or, should I have my hyperlinks have their own tooltips? The maker of the software I use, Help and Manual, has made the offer:

 

Begin Quote: It's important to remember that every graphic can only have one tooltip. You can add additional tooltips with hotspot links, but they currently only have the tip in a title= attribute, not in an alt= attribute (let us know if screen readers need that as well and we'll add it). However, if you add hotspot tooltips the hotspots are not really part of the image. They are in a special "image map" that positions their clickable areas over the image. If you are going to use hotspots to implement multiple tooltips in a single graphic it would be important to test it out with current screen readers first to see how they handle them -- they would need to read the image maps in the "correct" order and respond accordingly.

 

--Tim Green, Monday, November 27, 2017, 5:29 p.m. End Quote

 

So, H&M is willing to add alt=attribute support, if it will help the screen readers process an image map better than a tiled image.

 

I thought I’d ask experts, since I don’t know. What do you think?

 

Tonea Morrow

 

Tonea Morrow

Technical Writer

MCSG/SAIC | Desk: 405-954-7152

MMAC: Base Maintenance Building 15

Enterprise Services Center (ESC)

6500 S. MacArthur Blvd, OKC, OK  73169

tonea.ctr.morrow@... | www.esc.gov

Availability (appointments outside these)

Mo

7a – 5 p

If I take a lunch, I’ll be here later. If I take a kid to a doctor, I’ll be here later on Friday.

Tu

7:30 a – 3:30p

We

7:30 a – 3p

Th

7:30 a – 3:30p

Fr

7:30 a – 2p

 

 


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pdf and OCR

Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
 

Yes I do  have a win 10 system and the latest version of NVDA, can you please tell me how to invoke this feature?
Thanks.
 
 
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene New Zealand
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 12:42 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trouble downloading 2017.4

Hi


nzGene.iteverwhatocrtoRletter+keynvdatheuseversion10windowsthewithDo you have a windows 10 machine if so NVDA has a ocr function built into it.


Earlier versions of Windows it is a separate add on you need to install.


if it is the second one to read the text it is done on the numeric keypad.


If it is the first one it brings the text into a window and can be navigated with arrow keys nzGene.


Also


On 12/8/2017 8:34 AM, Karim Lakhani wrote:
Hi all,
Does NVDA have a built in OCR feature?
I've got a PDF file which I can't read because it was sent in a PDF format?
Any suggestions on other ideas?
I've heard jaws has this feature does any one know how well it works?
Thanks.
 

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which locations (or location) is near to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Browsing hierarchical tree of comments

Gene
 

That's good.  I haven't used such formats.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, December 07, 2017 1:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Browsing hierarchical tree of comments

Gene, I'm sorry I missed your question. I tried deducing the level of comment by its contents, but I found it was too hard. Some posts have several hundreds of comments. Every top level comment might have a tree of a few dozen replies. And depending on the topic of the post, sometimes it is not clear at all whether the comment is a top level one or a reply. Also my brain gets tired of trying to deduce the level of the comment. Now since I get the offset of a comment directly, it is going to be much easier for my brain, since I would need to listen and only compare the number (offset being equal to the top-level comment offset).


Tony


On 12/6/2017 4:39 PM, Gene wrote:
I ask a question in this message and make a few comments but the second half of the message discusses what might be a related command, at least in terms of how you would program it.  Perhaps if there is enough interest on the list, the developers will work on it soon. 
 
The review cursor by default if you are using object navigation follows the system cursor.  But what I'm saying is if you only want to read the top level comments, then don't you have to move to every comment and measure the distance?  My question is how that is better than reading a few words of each comment to see if you want to continue.  But maybe you have to read enough of each comment that it is slower enough to matter. 
 
Evidently, the speak position command has more functions than in the old version of NVDA I use.  So you are correct that to hear the numbers, you have to issue the command twice.
Also, the idea of being able to jump to the next occurrence of text starting a certain point from the left of the screen might be related to another feature NVDA should have.  If you have a page with two or three columns or more and you want to only read one column, you should be able to define a start point and an end point farther to the right.  Then you could read and only have that defineed column read.  ASAP had a read column feature in JAWS.  I seldo had to use it but I would imagine it was very useful to some people,  Consider one use with NVDA:
Suppose you got a poorly formatted PDF document where pages didn't decolumnize properly.  Rather than have decolumnization occur, if you could just have the page recognized with no decolumnization and set the columns yourself, you might be able to read such documents. 
 
Genea distance from the left of the screen
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 6:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Browsing hierarchical tree of comments

I am an NVDA newbie, so I don't know how or why this works, but it works for me. I tried it on both Reddit and Hacker News in Google Chrome and Firefox. I don't have to press any extra buttons to route the review cursor, perhaps the review cursor just follows the system cursor in my case.


After your email I tried pressing Insert+Delete only once, and it indeed speaks the horizontal offset of current object in (I assume) pixels. After pressing it twice it speaks the horizontal offset in percentage of the screen width. So either way can be used.


I like your idea about NVDA addon that would let you jump between paragraphs with the same offset. I might try to write such a plugin myself when I have some free time.


Tony



On 12/6/2017 3:33 PM, Gene wrote:
I haven't tried this but I don't see how using the cursor location feature would help much.  You would still have to move to the beginning of each comment and check the distance.  If that would save you time in not having to read any of the comment, I don't know but having to move to the next comment and check the distance of each comment would seem to be cumbersome and perhaps not much easier than reading a bit of each comment to see if it’s a reply.  but those who try this may explain that I'm wrong and why. 
 
Perhaps what we need, if this can be done, is a feature or a plugin you can set to look for text that starts a certain distance from the left side of the screen and then be able to jump to the next text that starts at the same number of pixels from the left of the screen.  You could issue a next and a back command to move to these items.  So the idea may lead to a good solution if such a feature can be developed.
 
By the way, you don't have to issue the command twice.  It does the same thing if issued once or more times.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2017 4:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Browsing hierarchical tree of comments

I've been playing with NVDA and just discovered a simple solution: press
Insert + Numpad Delete twice (Report review cursor location) and it will
tell you the distance from the left edge of the screen. The greater the
distance - the deeper the level of the comment.


I think in theory something can be done on the client side to make the
comments more readable for screenreader users.. You can write a browser
plugin that would modify a page to include the level of the comment
explicitly for example. But this is only in theory: my knowledge of
javascript/HTML/CSS is too poor to write it myself.


Tony





On 12/6/2017 11:29 AM, Bill Dengler wrote:
> I’m interested in this as well, but suspect it requires changes on the site’s end.
>
> Bill
>
>> On Dec 6, 2017, at 7:00 PM, Tony Malykh <anton.malykh@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi everyone,
>>
>> Many websites have tree-like structure of comments. For
>> example, reddit, hacker news, and probably a lot more websites are
>> like this. Sometimes I would like to read some comments, but for
>> example I would like to read only the top-level comments, and not the
>> deeper levels, because that would be the replies to the top-level
>> comments, and they are typically not as interesting. Is there any way
>> to achieve this with NVDA?
>>
>> So, for example, I would like to have a key combination to jump to the
>> next same level comment. Right now I can only jump to the next comment
>> of any level by searching a keyword ("up vote" or something, that
>> appears next to every comment), and then I'd have to deduce in my mind
>> what level comment is this. It is very tedious to browse comments this way.
>>
>> Another way that might help me would be to figure out the level of the
>> current comment. At least I'd be able to move down through the
>> comments without reading them and without trying to deduce its level
>> from the contents.
>>
>> I can use Firefox, Google Chrome and IE, so I'd be happy to find a solution that works in any of these browsers.
>>
>> Any advice would be appreciated!
>> Tony
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>






Re: Installing eclipse

Lino Morales
 

What does program do anyway?

On 12/3/2017 5:08 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
is there not an issue over the 32 Access bridge not being available any more though, or was I asleep during the last debate on here about this?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Jaffar Sidek" <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, December 03, 2017 1:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Installing eclipse


HI. Do not download the .exe version as the installer is not at all accessible. Download the .zip version, then if you already have the latest Java installed, unzip it to your main drive, drive C in most cases. Also, remember to switch access bridge on. To do that, go to Ease Of Access center, navigate to the link that says "Use your computer without a display" or something to that effect, then go to the access bridge check box and check it. That should do the trick. Cheers!


On 3/12/2017 8:12 AM, Tony Malykh wrote:
Hello everyone,


I've heard that Eclipse is a popular IDE among VI people, so I've decided to give it a try. However, it's installer doesn't seem to be accessible to me. How do you guys install it?


So I successfully installed JDK 9 64-bit (since eclipse installer asked for it).


I downloaded an official Eclipse oxygen 64-bit installer from here:

http://www.eclipse.org/downloads/

And when I start it, it shows me a window with unlabelled buttons, editboxes, etc.


Am I doing anything wrong? Any suggestions will be appreciated.


Thank you

Tony







uestion about Miranda IMq

Jessica D <jldail13@...>
 

Hi,

Recently, I’ve heard a lot of talk about Miranda IM.

Can anyone tell me if google works with it?

 

Thanks,

Jesscica

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


New questions [was: Re: [nvda] Trouble downloading 2017.4]

Antony Stone
 

Please start a new thread, instead of hijacking a totally unrelated topic,
when asking a new question.

Thanks,


Antony.

On Thursday 07 December 2017 at 20:34:13, Karim Lakhani wrote:

Hi all,
Does NVDA have a built in OCR feature?
I've got a PDF file which I can't read because it was sent in a PDF format?
Any suggestions on other ideas?
I've heard jaws has this feature does any one know how well it works?
Thanks.
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Re: Trouble downloading 2017.4

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


nzGene.iteverwhatocrtoRletter+keynvdatheuseversion10windowsthewithDo you have a windows 10 machine if so NVDA has a ocr function built into it.


Earlier versions of Windows it is a separate add on you need to install.


if it is the second one to read the text it is done on the numeric keypad.


If it is the first one it brings the text into a window and can be navigated with arrow keys nzGene.


Also


On 12/8/2017 8:34 AM, Karim Lakhani wrote:
Hi all,
Does NVDA have a built in OCR feature?
I've got a PDF file which I can't read because it was sent in a PDF format?
Any suggestions on other ideas?
I've heard jaws has this feature does any one know how well it works?
Thanks.
 

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Re: updating to the latest snap, but still waiting for the update to finish

Lenron
 

I like to run the next build snap shots or the master builds.

On 12/7/17, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
I have UAC turned off completely , have since the windows 7 days. so that
was not the case. When I restarted it helped. dunno what happened there but
there yah go.

On Dec 7, 2017, at 3:59 AM, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi
I had this with the 2017.4 release and it turned out to be a UAC window
in
the background waiting for permission to allow the install.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah
k
Alawami
Sent: 7 December 2017 05:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] updating to the latest snap, but still waiting for the
update to finish

I think I have a very broken nvda update. I followed the directions. The
update downloaded, however I still hear the beeps saying it's updating
etc
et etc. I tried to close out but no joy. Narrator is not telling me much
either. Running nvda latest snap on windows 10 pro..

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Re: ocr function in nvda.

Jason Milyo
 

Yeah I have the same issue, it says when the PDF is in  an image empty document this document is in another format which the screen reader cant read, and when you try to OCR it it only reads part of the document, however when the document isn’t in an image format it reads the PDF fine.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Karim Lakhani
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 2:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] ocr function in nvda.

 

Sorry I forgot to change the subject line in my last message asking for help with a PDF doc.

Hi all,

Does NVDA have a built in OCR feature?

I've got a PDF file which I can't read because it was sent in a PDF format?

Any suggestions on other ideas?

I've heard jaws has this feature does any one know how well it works?

Thanks.

 

 

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Re: Trouble downloading 2017.4

Tony James <megatronjames@...>
 

Hi, there is a website that will automatically convert PDF to other formats.  Its call robobraille.org. Its free


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 2:34:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trouble downloading 2017.4
 
Hi all,
Does NVDA have a built in OCR feature?
I've got a PDF file which I can't read because it was sent in a PDF format?
Any suggestions on other ideas?
I've heard jaws has this feature does any one know how well it works?
Thanks.
 


ocr function in nvda.

Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
 

Sorry I forgot to change the subject line in my last message asking for help with a PDF doc.
Hi all,
Does NVDA have a built in OCR feature?
I've got a PDF file which I can't read because it was sent in a PDF format?
Any suggestions on other ideas?
I've heard jaws has this feature does any one know how well it works?
Thanks.
 
 

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SKYPE goldenace4
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Re: Trouble downloading 2017.4

Karim Lakhani <karim.lakhani@...>
 

Hi all,
Does NVDA have a built in OCR feature?
I've got a PDF file which I can't read because it was sent in a PDF format?
Any suggestions on other ideas?
I've heard jaws has this feature does any one know how well it works?
Thanks.
 


Re: What about Configuration Profiles?

 

Hi,
Ah that: the thing you hear about are for add-on developers. Specifically, add-ons can now react to configuration profile changes without resorting to hacks. Several add-ons are taking advantage of that at the moment, including Emoticons 6.0 and an upcoming release of Enhanced Touch Gestures.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: Thursday, December 7, 2017 11:25 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] What about Configuration Profiles?

I had been hearing that Configuration Profiles had gained several enhancements in 2017.4. I just read through the What's New for this release and nothing is mentioned at all about this. I had thought several things can now be profiles specific that weren't previously configurable. Am I missing something? Maybe if I read the complete help file it will mention these changes.


Thanks.


Roger


Re: Trouble downloading 2017.4

Arlene
 

Hello: I go to the help to see if there are any. But I halso have it set up to update if there’s any out! Windows 7 sp 2. Or shell I say what 7 has for it’s latest sp

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris
Sent: December-07-17 9:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Trouble downloading 2017.4

 

Its under the help menu, check for updates

 

 

From: John J. Boyer
Sent: 07 December 2017 17:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Trouble downloading 2017.4

 

NVDA gave me a dialogue for downloading 2017.4. I started the doenload and received a message saying to wait for setup

to load. Then my Braille display showed all spaces. Nothing I did got any response. I shut down the machine with the

power button, waited a while and turned it back on. NVDA started. The log shows that it is still running 217.3. I can't

find a place in the menus to retry the download.

 

How do I retry the download?

 

Thanks,

John

 

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What about Configuration Profiles?

Roger Stewart
 

I had been hearing that Configuration Profiles had gained several enhancements in 2017.4. I just read through the What's New for this release and nothing is mentioned at all about this. I had thought several things can now be profiles specific that weren't previously configurable. Am I missing something? Maybe if I read the complete help file it will mention these changes.


Thanks.


Roger