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NVDA is misbehave in text boxes on some websites

Socheat Muth
 

Hello all,


I don't know if the topic like this already created, but I couldn't find it somehow. If this had already been created in the past, I am really sorry.


Anyway, I was browsing audiogames.net forum, and when I want to reply to a topic. So I went into a  text area so that   I can input some texts into it. However, when I arrowing up and down to review what I have typed into the box, NVDA acts like there is nothing in the text box at all. Also sometimes NVDA report the same character twice when I tried edeting character by character by using the left or right arrow keys.


Does anyone know what could be the problem? And if so, is there a fix for it currently?


Thanks.


Re: reading what seems to be a blank email

Gene
 

To see how the program is set and change it, open the view menu, down arrow to message body as and press enter.
Down arrow through the choices.  NVDA calls the items radio menu items, which makes no sense but that's how they are presented to NVDA.  If plain text is checked, you are reading mail in plain text.  My guess is that you are trying to read an HTML message that doesn't have a text variation included and are not seeing anything.  To read the message as HTML In the safest way, up or down arrow to simple HTML and press enter.  The menu will close and you are now reading mail as simple HTML.  That means that the HTML in messages used for formatting them is being used, but nothing in the HTML of any message can run.  So there is no chance of malicious code that may be in a message running.  Use that setting to read mail and you will be able to read any message like this along with all your other mail.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 11:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading what seems to be a blank email

It believe it is in text. How do I check?


On 5/17/2020 7:47 PM, Gene wrote:
Are you reading mail as plain text, simple HTML or HTML?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] reading what seems to be a blank email

I was not sure if this should come on NvDA or thunderbird but am trying
on the NVDA list since I am using NVDA as the screen reader while using
Thunderbird as the mail program. For some reason in the past couple of
weeks a group from which I receive emails from has changed their format.
It acts like it is an image yet I can read it on the Polaris Mini
notetaker. Is there a command I can use to try to get NVDa to read the
email to me? I am willing to forward the email to one of the programmers
for NVDA if you would like to look at it to see what is happening. I am
using the latest version of NVDA and Windows 10 on my laptop.


I would much prefer to be able to read the emails on the laptop than the
notetaker because I would like to access the link in the email from the
laptop.


I would greatly appreciate any assistance that I can receive.


Thank you so very much.



--
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876



-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Re: reading what seems to be a blank email

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

NVDA-t, the type of mail is spoken at the end.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Betsy Grenevitch
Sent: Montag, 18. Mai 2020 06:04
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading what seems to be a blank email

 

It believe it is in text. How do I check?

 

On 5/17/2020 7:47 PM, Gene wrote:

Are you reading mail as plain text, simple HTML or HTML?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:34 PM

Subject: [nvda] reading what seems to be a blank email

 

I was not sure if this should come on NvDA or thunderbird but am trying
on the NVDA list since I am using NVDA as the screen reader while using
Thunderbird as the mail program. For some reason in the past couple of
weeks a group from which I receive emails from has changed their format.
It acts like it is an image yet I can read it on the Polaris Mini
notetaker. Is there a command I can use to try to get NVDa to read the
email to me? I am willing to forward the email to one of the programmers
for NVDA if you would like to look at it to see what is happening. I am
using the latest version of NVDA and Windows 10 on my laptop.


I would much prefer to be able to read the emails on the laptop than the
notetaker because I would like to access the link in the email from the
laptop.


I would greatly appreciate any assistance that I can receive.


Thank you so very much.



--
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Control Usage Assistant, GoldWave, Resource Monitor 20.06 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Version 20.06 of the following add-ons are now available:

  • Control Usage Assistant: NVDA will no longer appear to do nothing or play error tones when you press NVDA+H when focused on certain web elements in browsers such as Chromium Edge.
  • GoldWave and Resource Monitor: localization updates.
  • All three include Flake8 work, and you should notice no changes whatsoever from that.

 

As always, these releases are available from community add-ons website and through Add-on Updater.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: nvda with foxit reader

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Almaric,

I haven't encountered this myself.  Have you tried other PDF files?  If you restart NVDA with add-ons disabled does it still happen?

If you could confirm those things, and then send me a copy of a PDF file to info@..., I can have a look.  Include a brief description so I know what it's about.

Quentin.

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 1:23 PM <lutztiger.luigi@...> wrote:

Hi all,

 

I’m on the lookout for a fine pdf reader which isn’t adobe. I’ve come across foxit reader who advertise themselves being quite accessible on both JAWS and nvda.

 

I’ve tried to read 2 pdf files with it, but all spaces seem to have been removed. Neither nvda nor jaws seems to be able to detect the spaces in the text. The same pdfs work just fine on adobe or Microsoft edge, so I’m confident the file itself is not the issue.

 

Did anyone have the same problem so far and has any solutions? I’ve used the latest release of both nvda and foxit reader.

 

Best,

almaric



--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: reading what seems to be a blank email

Betsy Grenevitch
 

It believe it is in text. How do I check?


On 5/17/2020 7:47 PM, Gene wrote:
Are you reading mail as plain text, simple HTML or HTML?
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] reading what seems to be a blank email

I was not sure if this should come on NvDA or thunderbird but am trying
on the NVDA list since I am using NVDA as the screen reader while using
Thunderbird as the mail program. For some reason in the past couple of
weeks a group from which I receive emails from has changed their format.
It acts like it is an image yet I can read it on the Polaris Mini
notetaker. Is there a command I can use to try to get NVDa to read the
email to me? I am willing to forward the email to one of the programmers
for NVDA if you would like to look at it to see what is happening. I am
using the latest version of NVDA and Windows 10 on my laptop.


I would much prefer to be able to read the emails on the laptop than the
notetaker because I would like to access the link in the email from the
laptop.


I would greatly appreciate any assistance that I can receive.


Thank you so very much.



--
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876



-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Accessibility of go to meeting or Google meetings with NVDA

Cecelia Rodriguez <cessbraille@...>
 

Sent from my iPhone Our go to meeting or Google meetings accessible with NVDA?


Re: Joseph Lee's add-ons: version 20.06 stable releases coming next week, no add-on snapshots throughout June

Betsy Grenevitch
 

Joseph, congratulations for your recognition for your work. Thank you for all you do for those of us who use NVDA. Please enjoy some time away and stay well.



On 5/16/2020 3:23 AM, Cordelia Scharpf wrote:

Congratulations, Joseph, on your great accomplishments! Thank you very much for all the great work you have done and for tons of helpful bits of advice you have offered on top of your coursework and all. You deserve a break to recharge and lots of fresh air!

 

Keep well,

Cordelia  

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jesse Farquharson
Sent: Saturday, May 16, 2020 7:59 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Joseph Lee's add-ons: version 20.06 stable releases coming next week, no add-on snapshots throughout June

 

Take care of yourself, man. This is a difficult time for everyone and I don't blame you for stepping back. Thanks for all the work you do.

 

On Sat, May 16, 2020 at 1:56 AM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hello everyone,

 

First, thank you everyone for celebrating the news noted on recent In-Process blog post. I accept the All-American Team recognition solemnly, knowing that it means a lot to the blindness community, and for folks here, to the wider NVDA community.

 

Second, people who regularly visit NVDA community add-ons website may have noticed changes for entries such as Add-on Updater, Resource Monitor, and StationPlaylist. Those keeping an eye on version changes may have noticed a new entry named “20.06”. I’m delighted to announce that version 20.06 for stable channel subscribers is on its way for the following add-ons, to be released next week:

  • Add-on Updater
  • Control Usage Assistant
  • Enhanced Touch Gestures
  • GoldWave
  • Object Location Tones
  • Resource Monitor
  • StationPlaylist
  • Windows 10 App Essentials

 

For people reading the changelog might be wondering what the following entry means:

 

Resolved potential bugs with Flake8.

 

Flake8 is a tool used to check coding style for Python projects. NV Access and code contributors have been using this tool for months so NVDA screen reader source code can conform to certain coding styles used by wider Python community. Flake8 is also useful for discovering potential and actual bugs, as some of the more recent bug fixes in StationPlaylist were due to Flake8 flagging code that may lead to problems.

 

For many of you, you won’t notice any changes (apart from users of StationPlaylist). Because I know that many of you are impacted by COVID-19 (including physical distancing), I won’t release all eight updates at once – it’ll be done in waves, starting with Enhanced Touch Gestures and ending with Add-on Updater.

 

Speaking of add-on updates, I must confess that I’m exhausted after going through a confusing spring term in college. Therefore I will not be working on add-on maintenance in June so I can get some fresh air (i.e. taking a break). For users of StationPlaylist and Windows 10 App Essentials, this means no development snapshots in June; fortunately everything required for the next stable version (20.07) is done – all that needs to be done is release it after the break. I’ll still be around on NVDA list – it’s just that I’m taking a break from NVDA world for a while.

 

Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

-- 
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Re: reading what seems to be a blank email

Gene
 

Are you reading mail as plain text, simple HTML or HTML?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, May 17, 2020 6:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] reading what seems to be a blank email

I was not sure if this should come on NvDA or thunderbird but am trying
on the NVDA list since I am using NVDA as the screen reader while using
Thunderbird as the mail program. For some reason in the past couple of
weeks a group from which I receive emails from has changed their format.
It acts like it is an image yet I can read it on the Polaris Mini
notetaker. Is there a command I can use to try to get NVDa to read the
email to me? I am willing to forward the email to one of the programmers
for NVDA if you would like to look at it to see what is happening. I am
using the latest version of NVDA and Windows 10 on my laptop.


I would much prefer to be able to read the emails on the laptop than the
notetaker because I would like to access the link in the email from the
laptop.


I would greatly appreciate any assistance that I can receive.


Thank you so very much.



--
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876




Re: reading what seems to be a blank email

 

Betsy,

          I'm not an NVDA developer but would be curious to take a look at one of those messages if the content of same is not private.  Feel free to send me one if you'd like me to do so.  The Reply to Sender link at the end of this message will fire up a blank message in your e-mail or webmail.  Just snag the To address and use it for forwarding if you are so inclined.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


reading what seems to be a blank email

Betsy Grenevitch
 

I was not sure if this should come on NvDA or thunderbird but am trying on the NVDA list since I am using NVDA as the screen reader while using Thunderbird as the mail program. For some reason in the past couple of weeks a group from which I receive emails from has changed their format. It acts like it is an image yet I can read it on the Polaris Mini notetaker. Is there a command I can use to try to get NVDa to read the email to me? I am willing to forward the email to one of the programmers for NVDA if you would like to look at it to see what is happening. I am using the latest version of NVDA and Windows 10 on my laptop.


I would much prefer to be able to read the emails on the laptop than the notetaker because I would like to access the link in the email from the laptop.


I would greatly appreciate any assistance that I can receive.


Thank you so very much.



--
Betsy Grenevitch
678-862-3876


Re: Office 365 with NVDA

 

On Sun, May 17, 2020 at 05:59 PM, enes sarıbaş wrote:
The accessibility improvements more than justify this.
That really depends on whether they're in features you actually use.   Office has been very accessible for a very long time, and 365 has all of its base DNA in Office 2016 and 2019.

I seldom hear complaints of lack of accessibility in either one of those, and both are still being actively supported.  Given how inexpensively Office 2016 and 2019 can be obtained on the grey market, if I were looking to economize going "the old fashioned way" would be what doing.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: Office 365 with NVDA

enes sarıbaş
 

The accessibility improvements more than justify this. Office 365 is considerably more accessible over time, and has features that never make it into the three year releases of office.

On 5/13/2020 10:41 AM, Gene wrote:
I would think that, considering the legitimagte places to get Office cheaply, that subscribing for a monthly fee may be considerably more costly over time.  Unless you need the most current version for some reason, the subscription model seems like a bad deal to me. 
 
Those who know the prices of buying Office and subscribing to it may be able to give examples of cost
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2020 10:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

I know I won’t  move from 2016 to 2019 or 365,  but I will continue to get updates to 2016.

2016 is not dead,  it is still alive in the software world.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: May-13-20 7:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Yes, you wont get 2019 or 365 automatically, you will stay with 2016. With a 365 subscription you always get the newest release of Office.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Monte Single
Sent: Mittwoch, 13. Mai 2020 14:43
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Hi,

 

I have Office 2016,  it gets updates at no extra cost.

Am I missing something?

Thanks,

Monte

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of heaven.lists92@...
Sent: May-13-20 6:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

Dear Denis

 

The main advantage of Microsoft 365 is that Office stays up-to-date at no extra cost.

 

Kind regards

 

Heaven

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Dennis L
Sent: Wednesday, 13 May 2020 05:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Office 365 with NVDA

 

What are the advantages and disadvantages  of Office 365 with NVDA?  Will it find my account in office 2016?


Re: Hosting Zoom Meetings with NVDA

Luke Davis
 

Thanks Robert, perfect!

Luke

On Sun, 17 May 2020, Robert Kingett wrote:

There's a free DAISY training book that answers all your questions. See below link.
https://mosen.org/zoom/


Re: Hosting Zoom Meetings with NVDA

CARLOS-ESTEBAN
 

Hello.

Zoom is very accessible with NVDA. NVDA read the chat messages, all alerts and the program can use with tab.

Regards.

 

 

Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Luke Davis
Enviado: domingo, 17 de mayo de 2020 11:08
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: [nvda] Hosting Zoom Meetings with NVDA

 

Hello

 

Has anyone here ever hosted a Zoom meeting with NVDA? If so, can you speak to

the process, the accessibility, any particular quirks that apply to using NVDA

with the presenter interface (assuming there is some kind of presenter

interface), and so on?

 

I don't want this to go off topic to other screen readers on list (feel free to

respond privately with any more general Zoom presenter accessibility comments),

but I may be asked to host some upcoming Zoom meetings, for which I will be

using NVDA.

 

Thanks

 

Luke

 

 

 


Re: Hosting Zoom Meetings with NVDA

 

There's a free DAISY training book that answers all your questions. See below link.

https://mosen.org/zoom/


Hosting Zoom Meetings with NVDA

Luke Davis
 

Hello

Has anyone here ever hosted a Zoom meeting with NVDA? If so, can you speak to the process, the accessibility, any particular quirks that apply to using NVDA with the presenter interface (assuming there is some kind of presenter interface), and so on?

I don't want this to go off topic to other screen readers on list (feel free to respond privately with any more general Zoom presenter accessibility comments), but I may be asked to host some upcoming Zoom meetings, for which I will be using NVDA.

Thanks

Luke


Re: Need tips and tricks on the use of Google Docs with NVDA

Kerryn Gunness
 

yu can also try
 
hi
from accessibility central
Using NVDA with Google programs by Roger Benz
The following NVDA Youtube tutorials are courtesy of Roger Benz from Google. They cover Google Drive, Google Docs, Google Sheets and Google Slides. To listen to these tutorials, please click on the link following each of the titles below:
Switch to the new Google Drive using a screen reader https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mBDxYOR7CFY&feature=youtu.be
Getting started with Google Drive using a screen reader https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TDaZgDXBsWI&feature=youtu.be
Getting started with Google Docs using a screen reader https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LPzSAqhHqQk&feature=youtu.be
Getting started with Google Sheets using a screen reader https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oCYT63b_m88&feature=youtu.be
Getting started with Google Slides using a screen reader https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWZVQ-vldEk&feature=youtu.be
 

On 3/15/2020 4:17 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
nvda and google docs, sheets drive etc
all google apps
can nvda work with them?
where do i get the tutorial
thanks
 


nvda with foxit reader

lutztiger.luigi@...
 

Hi all,

 

I’m on the lookout for a fine pdf reader which isn’t adobe. I’ve come across foxit reader who advertise themselves being quite accessible on both JAWS and nvda.

 

I’ve tried to read 2 pdf files with it, but all spaces seem to have been removed. Neither nvda nor jaws seems to be able to detect the spaces in the text. The same pdfs work just fine on adobe or Microsoft edge, so I’m confident the file itself is not the issue.

 

Did anyone have the same problem so far and has any solutions? I’ve used the latest release of both nvda and foxit reader.

 

Best,

almaric


Re: Need tips and tricks on the use of Google Docs with NVDA

Ishant Rajput <ishantrajput11@...>
 

On Sun, 17 May, 2020, 8:16 am Ibrahim Abedrabbo, <abedrabboibrahim@...> wrote:

Hi Folks,

I will be forced to use Google Docs as one of my distant instruction tools. I have never used google docs before. How accessible is Google Docs with NVDA?

I hope those of you who have used Google Docs with NVDA would share their experience with me and give me some tricks and tips and works around to use it effectively.

 

Regards,

 

Ibrahim