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Re: how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

Craig
 

Hi.

 

I have no probs with nvda and outlook 2016 on win 10 machine.

No problems

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Casey
Sent: Monday, 18 September 2017 11:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

 

Hi well I am using it now with windows seven.

I can tell you this much.

When you are in your mailbox list don’t use control y

Cause it will make your outlook crash or NVDA not respond.

At least it did on my system anyway.

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

 

Hi Casey,

 

In general, yes, it should work best with the latest version.  I think the main problems at the moment are with Outlook on Windows 10.  In any case, do let us know how you go.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:

Hi how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016?

I have the version 17.03 and I am running windows seven.

So is ther anything to whatch out for when using that program?

Or does it work just as it is with NVDA the latest version?

 

 



 

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NVDA doesn't identify the desk top

Nikos Demetriou
 

Hi all.
I have got a small issue which doesn't impact in any way the use of my computer, but I always wanted to find out why.
I am using windows 10 with the latest updates and the windows 10 essentials addon.
When I go to the desk top, nvda says folder view list instead of identifying the desk top correctly.
On my windows 7 machine it works correctly.
I don't know if it has got something to do with my display settings.
As I said it is not something major but I find it a bit strange.
Thanks in advance.
Nikos
Re: weather plus app

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi,
Which version are you using?
The last one is the 4.5 15.09.2017.
Pay attention to the date.
And... don't listen to what he says mr. Chikodinaka, because it is not true.

Cheers
Adriano

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@adams.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 12:34 AM
Subject: [nvda] weather plus app


To say the least it seems that the weather plus app update is always troublesome. I keep getting a notice that a weather plus update is available despite the fact that I have the latest version installed. What is different about this app to cause update issues?




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Re: how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Quentin,

 

Wow, this is good to know. I just had a problem earlier with outlook crashing. Since I have it in my downloads folder, I did a clean install and that fixed the problem. I'm using outlook 2013.

 

Rosemarie

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

 

Ah, that was the crash I was hoping was only on Windows 10.  Ok, if it's the same thing, the best workaround we've found so far is to use control+shift+tab to get to the folder list, then select your folder from there.

 

Control+y, or using control+1, control+2 etc, or even clicking on folders with the mouse all seem to produce this crash.  From what we've found, it's something Microsoft have changed in Outlook recently.

 

 

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:

Hi well I am using it now with windows seven.

I can tell you this much.

When you are in your mailbox list don’t use control y

Cause it will make your outlook crash or NVDA not respond.

At least it did on my system anyway.

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

 

Hi Casey,

 

In general, yes, it should work best with the latest version.  I think the main problems at the moment are with Outlook on Windows 10.  In any case, do let us know how you go.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:

Hi how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016?

I have the version 17.03 and I am running windows seven.

So is ther anything to whatch out for when using that program?

Or does it work just as it is with NVDA the latest version?

 

 



 

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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

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Re: slow NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

If 2017 works best for you on XP then I'd stay with it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 10:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] slow NVDA

2017.1 is the best version for me.
i decided to use it forever.

On 9/18/17, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
No issues here. Everything starts up as expected, and all is as
snappy as it can be, even more so.

Take care
On Sep 17, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@rcn.com> wrote:



I am noticing that new NVDA is slow and takes a long time to move
around when I start my PC. This was not an issue in the past. Now it
is. Using current W10 and NVDA.
Holger Fiallo

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Re: Issues with NVDA on Windows Logon Screen

zahra
 

hi.
i checked Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure
screens (requires administrator privileges) but dont recieve error.
whats the problem with activating this option?

On 9/17/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I also might suggest that one makes sure the machine has not got the issue
which mine had with a file that would not copy over when use current
settings on log on screen. That ended up with me having two different
configs and the poor old thing got itself confused. You could of course get

in if you disabled the log in screen, but one assumes in the case of the
person with the issue this is not an option.
If you find the copy current config to system goes on forever, then do an
alt tab and you will see errors hidden behind the dialogue on screen.
Eventually I renamed the .dic file causing the issue manually by going into

my named user option and navigating to the right folder there.


However, I wonder if you installed nvda with the correct user privs in the
first place?
Brian

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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with NVDA on Windows Logon Screen


hi.
please check also Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows.

Use NVDA on the Windows logon screen (requires administrator privileges)

and also Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure
screens (requires administrator privileges)

i am not familiar with u.ac, but i think turning on all the items
which i mentioned can help you.
God bless you.

On 9/17/17, Mahesh S. Panicker <maheshspanicker@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi listers,
I have been facing a strange issue with NVDA on the Windows logon
screen. I have an Acer machine running Windows 10. I set NVDA to start
at the logon screen. The user account control promptly appeared and I
clicked yes there. However, when I shut the system down and restarted
it, NVDA didn't launch. However, after I completely turned User
Account Control off, it does start, and starts faster than Jaws would
manage. Is there a way to get it to work on the Windows logon screen
even though UAC is turned on and set to 67 percent?
Regards,

--
Dr. Mahesh S. Panicker
Assistant Professor,
Department of Political Science,
Lady Shri Ram College for Women,
Lajpat Nagar
New Delhi 110024




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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org






--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org
Re: slow NVDA

zahra
 

2017.1 is the best version for me.
i decided to use it forever.

On 9/18/17, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
No issues here. Everything starts up as expected, and all is as snappy as
it can be, even more so.

Take care
On Sep 17, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@rcn.com> wrote:



I am noticing that new NVDA is slow and takes a long time to move around
when I start my PC. This was not an issue in the past. Now it is. Using
current W10 and NVDA.
Holger Fiallo
--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org
Re: how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

Cristóbal
 

TO be clear, is this with only the stand alone Outlook 2016 program or Office 365 as well?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

 

Ah, that was the crash I was hoping was only on Windows 10.  Ok, if it's the same thing, the best workaround we've found so far is to use control+shift+tab to get to the folder list, then select your folder from there.

 

Control+y, or using control+1, control+2 etc, or even clicking on folders with the mouse all seem to produce this crash.  From what we've found, it's something Microsoft have changed in Outlook recently.

 

 

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:

Hi well I am using it now with windows seven.

I can tell you this much.

When you are in your mailbox list don’t use control y

Cause it will make your outlook crash or NVDA not respond.

At least it did on my system anyway.

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

 

Hi Casey,

 

In general, yes, it should work best with the latest version.  I think the main problems at the moment are with Outlook on Windows 10.  In any case, do let us know how you go.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:

Hi how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016?

I have the version 17.03 and I am running windows seven.

So is ther anything to whatch out for when using that program?

Or does it work just as it is with NVDA the latest version?

 

 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

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Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 
Re: how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

Quentin Christensen
 

Ah, that was the crash I was hoping was only on Windows 10.  Ok, if it's the same thing, the best workaround we've found so far is to use control+shift+tab to get to the folder list, then select your folder from there.

Control+y, or using control+1, control+2 etc, or even clicking on folders with the mouse all seem to produce this crash.  From what we've found, it's something Microsoft have changed in Outlook recently.


On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 11:30 AM, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:

Hi well I am using it now with windows seven.

I can tell you this much.

When you are in your mailbox list don’t use control y

Cause it will make your outlook crash or NVDA not respond.

At least it did on my system anyway.

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

 

Hi Casey,

 

In general, yes, it should work best with the latest version.  I think the main problems at the moment are with Outlook on Windows 10.  In any case, do let us know how you go.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:

Hi how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016?

I have the version 17.03 and I am running windows seven.

So is ther anything to whatch out for when using that program?

Or does it work just as it is with NVDA the latest version?

 

 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 
Re: how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

Casey <cwollner@...>
 

Hi well I am using it now with windows seven.

I can tell you this much.

When you are in your mailbox list don’t use control y

Cause it will make your outlook crash or NVDA not respond.

At least it did on my system anyway.

 

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 7:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

 

Hi Casey,

 

In general, yes, it should work best with the latest version.  I think the main problems at the moment are with Outlook on Windows 10.  In any case, do let us know how you go.

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:

Hi how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016?

I have the version 17.03 and I am running windows seven.

So is ther anything to whatch out for when using that program?

Or does it work just as it is with NVDA the latest version?

 

 



 

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 
a bit off top, question about free youtube to mp3 converter

Dan Thompson
 

I use NVDA  for everything and am so greatful for all the programers/developers.

Question, I need a list to contact regarding the Free youtube to mp3 converter.  I have put together a book called “making computers fun” that includes a chapter using that [program with NVDA  for low vision or totally blind seniors.  However, with the recent upgrade, I don’t want to remain too much off topic to long.  But in short the results of keystrokes that once worked are not.  I have tried contacting support with no help.  Does anyone use the program extensively and would be willing to communicate with me off list?  Thanks for the modoriator’s patience and those listers getting this message.

The book is just about to go to the printer and may need that chpter rewritten.

 

 

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Re: NVDA hot keys equivalent to Window-Eyes

Quentin Christensen
 

As well as the direct assistance others have provided, another resource you might find useful is the guide that Gene wrote on switching from Window-Eyes to NVDA: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/Switching-from-Window-Eyes-to-NVDA

Regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:
Hi!

If I am not mistaken:

Read active window  Control-shift- w
 NVDA + B

Speak summary  control-shift-s
I suppose this function is not available in NVDA!


Title/status of current active programme control-shift t
 NVDA+T


status line  control-insert-s
NVDA+End


highlighted block  control-shift-m If you mean the selected text, NVDA+Shift+UpArrow


field data  control-shift-d
field name  control-shift-n

 I suppose both are included in NVDA+Tab.

Rui








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Re: how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Casey,

In general, yes, it should work best with the latest version.  I think the main problems at the moment are with Outlook on Windows 10.  In any case, do let us know how you go.

Regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:

Hi how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016?

I have the version 17.03 and I am running windows seven.

So is ther anything to whatch out for when using that program?

Or does it work just as it is with NVDA the latest version?

 

 




--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 
Re: slow NVDA

Sarah k Alawami
 

No issues here. Everything  starts up as expected, and all is as snappy as it can be, even more so.

Take care

On Sep 17, 2017, at 9:49 AM, Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...> wrote:

       

I am noticing that new NVDA is slow and takes a long time to move around when I start my PC. This was not an issue in the past. Now it is. Using current W10 and NVDA.
Holger Fiallo
Re: Thunderbird portable

Brian Vogel
 

I would recommend looking through Gene NZ's accessibilitycentral.net section entitled, 
Accessible email client Mozilla Thunderbird
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slow NVDA

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

       

I am noticing that new NVDA is slow and takes a long time to move around when I start my PC. This was not an issue in the past. Now it is. Using current W10 and NVDA.
Holger Fiallo
Thunderbird portable

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I just downloaded this in the hope it would give me a fall back if anything happened to my Outlook Express. However I am still struggling with its interface.
Is there a simple to follow from the keyboard tutorial? I have put in my email account, a gmail one on imap for now just to test it, but it keeps on popping up messages about external content in the emails and complaining its not able to get some mail that I know is there and the way to simply read emails without getting involved with today yesterday and sorting seems to be very labour intensive. Is there a way to strip it down, so one can simply use it to see the tree of foldeers, open a folder run up and down the list inside and open and reply to messages without fuss and messing about?
Brian

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Re: Another Libra Office thread

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well just used it in windows 7. I used the portable version. the best thing about this is that though you kind of install it, it keeps all its paths and registry stuff local and not in the basic system area on your pc, so no issues with uninstalling it, just like the portable nvda.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Libra Office thread


hi brian.
my issue was libreoffice crash or unresponsive as i remember if i am
correct which i tested two years ago.

On 9/17/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
I downloaded the portable version and stuck it into a folder. On writer it
has more troubles with tables than just not announcing their coordinates as

has been ticketed, and not just the lack of Say all below a visible page or

if too many blank lines occur. it also seems to have issues at boundaries of

tables top and bottom needing some jugling to get into and out of them as
below.

IO - speech.speak (12:18:00.986):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'row 6', u'\xb75\tNo prior
experience of supporting people with sight loss is required ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:01.494):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:01.513):
Caret move detected using bookmarks. Elapsed: 0 ms
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes
(12:18:01.516):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error',
(None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (12:18:01.526):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'as full induction and training will

be provided.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:02.311):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole
(12:18:02.361):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0,
None))
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:02.361):
Focus event. Elapsed: 0 ms
IO - speech.speak (12:18:02.380):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'out of table', u'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:03.719):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole
(12:18:03.765):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0,
None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole
(12:18:03.780):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0,
None))
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:03.877):
Caret didn't move before timeout. Elapsed: 100 ms
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:03.878):
error executing event: caret on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible

object at 0x05BE20B0> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo
File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in _getCaretOffset
RuntimeError: no active caret in this object
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:04.535):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:04.611):
error executing event: caret on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible

object at 0x03133150> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo
File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in _getCaretOffset
RuntimeError: no active caret in this object
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:08.239):
Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 2448 (conhost.exe) (12:18:08.299):
Thread 1108, build\x86_64\remote\ia2Support.cpp, installIA2Support, 86:
Error registering class object, code -2147221008

IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.302):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Taskbar']
IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.342):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'reboot nvda with log terminal']
IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.345):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'80 space', u'blank']
INFO - core.main (12:18:08.454):
Exiting

For those wondering, Symphony was the original name when IBM had the code.
Also on other parts of the program, it seems that the database part is
completely inaccessible giving the impression nothing is on screen after the

basic set up wizard has completed.

Brian

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Re: Issues with NVDA on Windows Logon Screen

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I also might suggest that one makes sure the machine has not got the issue which mine had with a file that would not copy over when use current settings on log on screen. That ended up with me having two different configs and the poor old thing got itself confused. You could of course get in if you disabled the log in screen, but one assumes in the case of the person with the issue this is not an option.
If you find the copy current config to system goes on forever, then do an alt tab and you will see errors hidden behind the dialogue on screen. Eventually I renamed the .dic file causing the issue manually by going into my named user option and navigating to the right folder there.


However, I wonder if you installed nvda with the correct user privs in the first place?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with NVDA on Windows Logon Screen


hi.
please check also Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows.

Use NVDA on the Windows logon screen (requires administrator privileges)

and also Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure
screens (requires administrator privileges)

i am not familiar with u.ac, but i think turning on all the items
which i mentioned can help you.
God bless you.

On 9/17/17, Mahesh S. Panicker <maheshspanicker@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi listers,
I have been facing a strange issue with NVDA on the Windows logon
screen. I have an Acer machine running Windows 10. I set NVDA to start
at the logon screen. The user account control promptly appeared and I
clicked yes there. However, when I shut the system down and restarted
it, NVDA didn't launch. However, after I completely turned User
Account Control off, it does start, and starts faster than Jaws would
manage. Is there a way to get it to work on the Windows logon screen
even though UAC is turned on and set to 67 percent?
Regards,

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Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?

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Yes but I do not want that, and indeed now run 32 bit on my 64 bit windows 7 machine and its far more stable for me at least. It can be done if you download the offline installer, ie the files that install it rather than the stub they use to decide. I think its clever enough that it won't enforce a 64 bit install if a 32 bit is already there. to me the problem is this. Nvda and a lot of other software is 32 bit often they get too use a core and that is that, in 64 bit apps like the 64 bit
Firefox, it can use many cores and hence slow other things running in those cores as most machines do not multithread but simply time slice the processor.
I suspect this is what the problem often is, Microsofts operating system though able to run both types of software is not so clever that it can protect one thing over another. The main thing about using 64 bit apps is that they can use more memory directly addressed from the system than a 32 bit can of course.
I'm not sure why any browser would need to have access to such huge lumps of memory myself.. grin.
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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?


hi brian.
according to whats new, firefox 64 bit is installed by default on 64
bit computers.

◦ Firefox for Windows 64-bit is now installed by default on 64-bit
systems with at least 2GB of RAM
◦ Full installers with advanced installation options are still available

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/55.0/releasenotes/

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No 52 on intell chipped xp machines is as far up you can go. I suspect that

photon is a development of the old version of the engine.
One problem I get on Firefox is the attitude that unless you are careful,
they will install a 64 bit version on 64 bit systems, when all the tests
I've tried tell me that the 32 bit version is just as good and less likely
to crash or hog the processor.

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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?


i am not sure exactly about photon, but read comments in some of
sighted websites and many users were not satisfied with photon!
many wanted to migrate to another browser!

but it does not work on xp and i realy cant test.

On 9/17/17, Nika Tsiklauri <ntsiklauri2@gmail.com> wrote:
hi! zahra, i have tested it there. it works good. personaly for me it did.

i
have not had experiencing the issues with it.



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On Sep 16, 2017, at 13:47, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi Tony


Is it doing the following in short? it will not read any thing in your
browsers except edge in windows 10? can you get to any of the menus in
fire fox etc? Down where the running applications area is does nvda say
unknown as you arrow through that section? If you use the context menu
will it speak any of the items in it? I am wondering if is that bug?


have a look on my nvda audio tutorials page and go to the section on
trouble shooting and look for the heading that says unknown or pane for
windows 10.


I can not remember either but there is a patch etc but can not remember
if
it is on that page as well. it might only be for windows 7 or 8
machines?


have a look at this ticket and read the comments down near the bottom.
The
link to this page is
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243

The steps that fixed a friends computer is on my nvda audio tutorials
page. but check out the comments first for the ticket.


Gene nz





On 16/09/2017 15:20, Tony Ballou wrote:
Hi,


I don't have that one however, I do have something similar. In
firefox,
and a bunch of other apps on my machine, nvda doesn't read the menu
bars,
tab controls, or certain textual areas of windows. Really odd, it
happened after installing the most recent set of updates for windows 10
version 1607. Called the Microsoft disability answer desk and its got
them scratching their heads as well

Tony

On 9/12/2017 11:50 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,

Does anyone else have this problem:

Start the latest stable NVDA, open the latest Firefox, restart NVDA,
try
to arrow through the Firefox page. The arrow keys don’t work, just the
tab key.

Thank you,


Brandon Keith Biggs

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