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Re: Another Libra Office thread

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Well just used it in windows 7. I used the portable version. the best thing about this is that though you kind of install it, it keeps all its paths and registry stuff local and not in the basic system area on your pc, so no issues with uninstalling it, just like the portable nvda.


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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Libra Office thread


hi brian.
my issue was libreoffice crash or unresponsive as i remember if i am
correct which i tested two years ago.

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I downloaded the portable version and stuck it into a folder. On writer it
has more troubles with tables than just not announcing their coordinates as

has been ticketed, and not just the lack of Say all below a visible page or

if too many blank lines occur. it also seems to have issues at boundaries of

tables top and bottom needing some jugling to get into and out of them as
below.

IO - speech.speak (12:18:00.986):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'row 6', u'\xb75\tNo prior
experience of supporting people with sight loss is required ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:01.494):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:01.513):
Caret move detected using bookmarks. Elapsed: 0 ms
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes
(12:18:01.516):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error',
(None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (12:18:01.526):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'as full induction and training will

be provided.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:02.311):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole
(12:18:02.361):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0,
None))
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:02.361):
Focus event. Elapsed: 0 ms
IO - speech.speak (12:18:02.380):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'out of table', u'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:03.719):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole
(12:18:03.765):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0,
None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole
(12:18:03.780):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0,
None))
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:03.877):
Caret didn't move before timeout. Elapsed: 100 ms
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:03.878):
error executing event: caret on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible

object at 0x05BE20B0> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo
File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in _getCaretOffset
RuntimeError: no active caret in this object
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:04.535):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:04.611):
error executing event: caret on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible

object at 0x03133150> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo
File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in _getCaretOffset
RuntimeError: no active caret in this object
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:08.239):
Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 2448 (conhost.exe) (12:18:08.299):
Thread 1108, build\x86_64\remote\ia2Support.cpp, installIA2Support, 86:
Error registering class object, code -2147221008

IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.302):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Taskbar']
IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.342):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'reboot nvda with log terminal']
IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.345):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'80 space', u'blank']
INFO - core.main (12:18:08.454):
Exiting

For those wondering, Symphony was the original name when IBM had the code.
Also on other parts of the program, it seems that the database part is
completely inaccessible giving the impression nothing is on screen after the

basic set up wizard has completed.

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Re: Issues with NVDA on Windows Logon Screen

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I also might suggest that one makes sure the machine has not got the issue which mine had with a file that would not copy over when use current settings on log on screen. That ended up with me having two different configs and the poor old thing got itself confused. You could of course get in if you disabled the log in screen, but one assumes in the case of the person with the issue this is not an option.
If you find the copy current config to system goes on forever, then do an alt tab and you will see errors hidden behind the dialogue on screen. Eventually I renamed the .dic file causing the issue manually by going into my named user option and navigating to the right folder there.


However, I wonder if you installed nvda with the correct user privs in the first place?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with NVDA on Windows Logon Screen


hi.
please check also Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows.

Use NVDA on the Windows logon screen (requires administrator privileges)

and also Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure
screens (requires administrator privileges)

i am not familiar with u.ac, but i think turning on all the items
which i mentioned can help you.
God bless you.

On 9/17/17, Mahesh S. Panicker <maheshspanicker@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi listers,
I have been facing a strange issue with NVDA on the Windows logon
screen. I have an Acer machine running Windows 10. I set NVDA to start
at the logon screen. The user account control promptly appeared and I
clicked yes there. However, when I shut the system down and restarted
it, NVDA didn't launch. However, after I completely turned User
Account Control off, it does start, and starts faster than Jaws would
manage. Is there a way to get it to work on the Windows logon screen
even though UAC is turned on and set to 67 percent?
Regards,

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Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?

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Yes but I do not want that, and indeed now run 32 bit on my 64 bit windows 7 machine and its far more stable for me at least. It can be done if you download the offline installer, ie the files that install it rather than the stub they use to decide. I think its clever enough that it won't enforce a 64 bit install if a 32 bit is already there. to me the problem is this. Nvda and a lot of other software is 32 bit often they get too use a core and that is that, in 64 bit apps like the 64 bit
Firefox, it can use many cores and hence slow other things running in those cores as most machines do not multithread but simply time slice the processor.
I suspect this is what the problem often is, Microsofts operating system though able to run both types of software is not so clever that it can protect one thing over another. The main thing about using 64 bit apps is that they can use more memory directly addressed from the system than a 32 bit can of course.
I'm not sure why any browser would need to have access to such huge lumps of memory myself.. grin.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?


hi brian.
according to whats new, firefox 64 bit is installed by default on 64
bit computers.

◦ Firefox for Windows 64-bit is now installed by default on 64-bit
systems with at least 2GB of RAM
◦ Full installers with advanced installation options are still available

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/55.0/releasenotes/

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No 52 on intell chipped xp machines is as far up you can go. I suspect that

photon is a development of the old version of the engine.
One problem I get on Firefox is the attitude that unless you are careful,
they will install a 64 bit version on 64 bit systems, when all the tests
I've tried tell me that the 32 bit version is just as good and less likely
to crash or hog the processor.

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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?


i am not sure exactly about photon, but read comments in some of
sighted websites and many users were not satisfied with photon!
many wanted to migrate to another browser!

but it does not work on xp and i realy cant test.

On 9/17/17, Nika Tsiklauri <ntsiklauri2@gmail.com> wrote:
hi! zahra, i have tested it there. it works good. personaly for me it did.

i
have not had experiencing the issues with it.



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On Sep 16, 2017, at 13:47, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi Tony


Is it doing the following in short? it will not read any thing in your
browsers except edge in windows 10? can you get to any of the menus in
fire fox etc? Down where the running applications area is does nvda say
unknown as you arrow through that section? If you use the context menu
will it speak any of the items in it? I am wondering if is that bug?


have a look on my nvda audio tutorials page and go to the section on
trouble shooting and look for the heading that says unknown or pane for
windows 10.


I can not remember either but there is a patch etc but can not remember
if
it is on that page as well. it might only be for windows 7 or 8
machines?


have a look at this ticket and read the comments down near the bottom.
The
link to this page is
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243

The steps that fixed a friends computer is on my nvda audio tutorials
page. but check out the comments first for the ticket.


Gene nz





On 16/09/2017 15:20, Tony Ballou wrote:
Hi,


I don't have that one however, I do have something similar. In
firefox,
and a bunch of other apps on my machine, nvda doesn't read the menu
bars,
tab controls, or certain textual areas of windows. Really odd, it
happened after installing the most recent set of updates for windows 10
version 1607. Called the Microsoft disability answer desk and its got
them scratching their heads as well

Tony

On 9/12/2017 11:50 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,

Does anyone else have this problem:

Start the latest stable NVDA, open the latest Firefox, restart NVDA,
try
to arrow through the Firefox page. The arrow keys don’t work, just the
tab key.

Thank you,


Brandon Keith Biggs

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Re: NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding

 

you can download libreoffice portable from:

www.libreofficeportable.org

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Does anyone have a link to Libra Office that can be used as a portable
version? It will solvde an issue with clashing word processores in our
group.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


hi.
libreoffice is fork of openoffice, but now i believe that libreoffice
is very stable in compare to openoffice!it works very better, the
features are more and in some aspects, there catogory is better to
understand.

if you want to download the last stable version of libreoffice for
32bit windows, here you are the link!

now openoffice and libreoffice dont require java and access briedge to
work.

https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.3.6.1/win/x86/LibreOffice_5.3.6.1_Win_x86.msi

On 9/17/17, Howard Traxler <howard@traxlerenterprises.com> wrote:
Hi, I just got here and thanks for letting me in.

Is Open Office and Libra Office the same thing? Some years ago, I tried

to

use open office and had no success. Just now I installed Libra Office on

my

XP machine and it seems to work ok with JAWS. Having problems with ms
office so was thinking of using Libra Office on my win10 machine with
NVDA.

Anyone had experience with that? Thanks.

Howard

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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


I don't think so actually. I know plenty of sighted people using Open
Office and Libra Office with no issues

My feeling on this is that its getting very complicated to hook into
processes that are both part of windows and may also be being used by
applications.Those with long memories will remember display chain
drivers

in XP and earlier, where any piece of software that needed access to
the
screen output had to hook in through a piece of software loaded at boot
time. The snag often was that some software did not do this well and
the
whole thing slowed down or fell over.
If you are screen scraping this video monitoring was often the only way

to

get at content for screenreaders. I can well recall that some upper end
graphics cards used by gamers had non standard drivers and the display
chain programs never worked right on them.
I suspect these days especially with ported programs like Open Office
that

there are similar issues due to the portability of some of the code to
other operating systems.
Just my thoughts.
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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


Obviously they are funded by microsoft and want you to buy microsoft
office.




On 15/09/2017 9:03 p.m., zahra wrote:
some antivirus consider openoffice libreoffice as trojen.

i mean aa.v antivirus and i read in the website:

www.libreofficeportable.org

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Never heard of this happening. Are you sure some dodgy anti virus
has
not
just hidden it for you?
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Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 12:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


After installing NVDA Open Office stopped responding. I have a Dell
Inspiron running Windows 10. Also, I can no longer find NVDA on my
computer. I donated 15.00 two times and downloaded NVDA. Now it
is
gone.

What are the solutions?

Jerry Schoen

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Re: Question on a Firefox setting

 

thanks brian very much for your great information and God bless you.

On 9/17/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
To be honest why did they even change the engine, the only issues I have
with this current release is that every so often mozilla defocuses and
needs restarting when running any mozilla app, the system will semi
freez to from time to time but its not to bad.

There is also the fact the address bar converts to a list when killing
addresses but thats not an issue bar twitter and I worked round that.




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The other thing is that it also allows you to set it to update on
various update channels, such as beta or release versions.
The issue with 56 is really one of where it focuses by default. It has
a work around but is just annoying. I'm no6t certain why it was not
back ported, but then programmers can sometimes work in mysterious ways.
There is nothing wrong with 55, and indeed on the older operating
systems now not supported by nvda, you can only have 52 or 48
depending on your processor and they seem to work OK as well.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox setting


I know it's in there somewhere probably under Options which may be in
Tools but the options has many tabs and one of them has a check box
for automatically downloading and installing updates and I have mine
unchecked but I can always do updates manually at any time.  When I
hear of a version that isn't very screen reader friendly, I just wait
a few weeks or maybe a month or so until the next update comes out
and then get that.

Hope this helps you locate it but maybe someone else here can give
you more exact instructions as to how to get to that little check box.

Roger









On 9/16/2017 12:02 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi list,
After reading the list discussion about Firefox v56, I am wondering
how to adjust the setting to avoid automatic updates.

I use NVDA exclusively as my screen reader.
I am using Firefox 55.3, 32bit on a Windows7 machine.

How can I set Firefox to let me know about available updates tut to
let me manually decide whether or not to update?

Thanks!
LM










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Re: Another Libra Office thread

 

hi brian.
my issue was libreoffice crash or unresponsive as i remember if i am
correct which i tested two years ago.

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I downloaded the portable version and stuck it into a folder. On writer it
has more troubles with tables than just not announcing their coordinates as

has been ticketed, and not just the lack of Say all below a visible page or

if too many blank lines occur. it also seems to have issues at boundaries of

tables top and bottom needing some jugling to get into and out of them as
below.

IO - speech.speak (12:18:00.986):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'row 6', u'\xb75\tNo prior
experience of supporting people with sight loss is required ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:01.494):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:01.513):
Caret move detected using bookmarks. Elapsed: 0 ms
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes
(12:18:01.516):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error',
(None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (12:18:01.526):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'as full induction and training will

be provided.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:02.311):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole
(12:18:02.361):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0,
None))
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:02.361):
Focus event. Elapsed: 0 ms
IO - speech.speak (12:18:02.380):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'out of table', u'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:03.719):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole
(12:18:03.765):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0,
None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole
(12:18:03.780):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0,
None))
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:03.877):
Caret didn't move before timeout. Elapsed: 100 ms
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:03.878):
error executing event: caret on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible

object at 0x05BE20B0> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo
File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in _getCaretOffset
RuntimeError: no active caret in this object
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:04.535):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:04.611):
error executing event: caret on
<NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible

object at 0x03133150> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo
File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in _getCaretOffset
RuntimeError: no active caret in this object
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:08.239):
Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 2448 (conhost.exe) (12:18:08.299):
Thread 1108, build\x86_64\remote\ia2Support.cpp, installIA2Support, 86:
Error registering class object, code -2147221008

IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.302):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Taskbar']
IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.342):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'reboot nvda with log terminal']
IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.345):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'80 space', u'blank']
INFO - core.main (12:18:08.454):
Exiting

For those wondering, Symphony was the original name when IBM had the code.
Also on other parts of the program, it seems that the database part is
completely inaccessible giving the impression nothing is on screen after the

basic set up wizard has completed.

Brian

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Re: Issues with NVDA on Windows Logon Screen

 

hi.
please check also Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows.

Use NVDA on the Windows logon screen (requires administrator privileges)

and also Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure
screens (requires administrator privileges)

i am not familiar with u.ac, but i think turning on all the items
which i mentioned can help you.
God bless you.

On 9/17/17, Mahesh S. Panicker <maheshspanicker@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi listers,
I have been facing a strange issue with NVDA on the Windows logon
screen. I have an Acer machine running Windows 10. I set NVDA to start
at the logon screen. The user account control promptly appeared and I
clicked yes there. However, when I shut the system down and restarted
it, NVDA didn't launch. However, after I completely turned User
Account Control off, it does start, and starts faster than Jaws would
manage. Is there a way to get it to work on the Windows logon screen
even though UAC is turned on and set to 67 percent?
Regards,

--
Dr. Mahesh S. Panicker
Assistant Professor,
Department of Political Science,
Lady Shri Ram College for Women,
Lajpat Nagar
New Delhi 110024



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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: NVDA hot keys equivalent to Window-Eyes

Rui Fontes
 

Hi!

If I am not mistaken:

Read active window Control-shift- w
NVDA + B

Speak summary control-shift-s
I suppose this function is not available in NVDA!


Title/status of current active programme control-shift t
NVDA+T


status line control-insert-s
NVDA+End


highlighted block control-shift-m If you mean the selected text, NVDA+Shift+UpArrow


field data control-shift-d
field name control-shift-n

I suppose both are included in NVDA+Tab.

Rui


Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?

 

hi brian.
according to whats new, firefox 64 bit is installed by default on 64
bit computers.

◦ Firefox for Windows 64-bit is now installed by default on 64-bit
systems with at least 2GB of RAM
◦ Full installers with advanced installation options are still available

https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/55.0/releasenotes/

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<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
No 52 on intell chipped xp machines is as far up you can go. I suspect that

photon is a development of the old version of the engine.
One problem I get on Firefox is the attitude that unless you are careful,
they will install a 64 bit version on 64 bit systems, when all the tests
I've tried tell me that the 32 bit version is just as good and less likely
to crash or hog the processor.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?


i am not sure exactly about photon, but read comments in some of
sighted websites and many users were not satisfied with photon!
many wanted to migrate to another browser!

but it does not work on xp and i realy cant test.

On 9/17/17, Nika Tsiklauri <ntsiklauri2@gmail.com> wrote:
hi! zahra, i have tested it there. it works good. personaly for me it did.

i
have not had experiencing the issues with it.



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2017, at 13:47, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi Tony


Is it doing the following in short? it will not read any thing in your
browsers except edge in windows 10? can you get to any of the menus in
fire fox etc? Down where the running applications area is does nvda say
unknown as you arrow through that section? If you use the context menu
will it speak any of the items in it? I am wondering if is that bug?


have a look on my nvda audio tutorials page and go to the section on
trouble shooting and look for the heading that says unknown or pane for
windows 10.


I can not remember either but there is a patch etc but can not remember
if
it is on that page as well. it might only be for windows 7 or 8
machines?


have a look at this ticket and read the comments down near the bottom.
The
link to this page is
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243

The steps that fixed a friends computer is on my nvda audio tutorials
page. but check out the comments first for the ticket.


Gene nz





On 16/09/2017 15:20, Tony Ballou wrote:
Hi,


I don't have that one however, I do have something similar. In
firefox,
and a bunch of other apps on my machine, nvda doesn't read the menu
bars,
tab controls, or certain textual areas of windows. Really odd, it
happened after installing the most recent set of updates for windows 10
version 1607. Called the Microsoft disability answer desk and its got
them scratching their heads as well

Tony

On 9/12/2017 11:50 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,

Does anyone else have this problem:

Start the latest stable NVDA, open the latest Firefox, restart NVDA,
try
to arrow through the Firefox page. The arrow keys don’t work, just the
tab key.

Thank you,


Brandon Keith Biggs

Virus-free. www.avast.com
--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries
(Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,
please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed
the NVDA expert exam.

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org







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we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: NVDA hot keys equivalent to Window-Eyes

Gene
 

Read title bar is NVdA key t.  The NVDA key is either insert by default.
Read current window is NVDA key b.  But this may not read the same things, sometimes more, sometimes less, sometimes other information than what you expect, sometimes much less, for reasons I don't know, because of how it works.  It reads every object in the current screen.  If that produces the results you want, that's fine but this may be an example of where, a fair amount of time, knowing how to use screen review and object navigation may be far better alternatives than just issuing this command.
 
Gene
----- OriginaL Message -----

Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 9:06 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA hot keys equivalent to Window-Eyes

Hi,

As an ex-user of Window-Eyes and now a total confirmed user of NVDA,
could someone please tell me the equivalent keys for the following
Window-Eyes hot keys?


Read active window  Control-shift- w
Speak summary  control-shift-s
Title/status of current active programme control-shift t
status line  control-insert-s
highlighted block  control-shift-m
field data  control-shift-d
field name  control-shift-n
Thanks and regards,
Akbar



Issues with NVDA on Windows Logon Screen

Mahesh S. Panicker
 

Hi listers,
I have been facing a strange issue with NVDA on the Windows logon
screen. I have an Acer machine running Windows 10. I set NVDA to start
at the logon screen. The user account control promptly appeared and I
clicked yes there. However, when I shut the system down and restarted
it, NVDA didn't launch. However, after I completely turned User
Account Control off, it does start, and starts faster than Jaws would
manage. Is there a way to get it to work on the Windows logon screen
even though UAC is turned on and set to 67 percent?
Regards,

--
Dr. Mahesh S. Panicker
Assistant Professor,
Department of Political Science,
Lady Shri Ram College for Women,
Lajpat Nagar
New Delhi 110024


NVDA hot keys equivalent to Window-Eyes

Akbar S. Currim <raahzam@...>
 

Hi,

As an ex-user of Window-Eyes and now a total confirmed user of NVDA,
could someone please tell me the equivalent keys for the following
Window-Eyes hot keys?


Read active window Control-shift- w
Speak summary control-shift-s
Title/status of current active programme control-shift t
status line control-insert-s
highlighted block control-shift-m
field data control-shift-d
field name control-shift-n
Thanks and regards,
Akbar


Another Libra Office thread

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I downloaded the portable version and stuck it into a folder. On writer it has more troubles with tables than just not announcing their coordinates as has been ticketed, and not just the lack of Say all below a visible page or if too many blank lines occur. it also seems to have issues at boundaries of tables top and bottom needing some jugling to get into and out of them as below.

IO - speech.speak (12:18:00.986):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'row 6', u'\xb75\tNo prior experience of supporting people with sight loss is required ']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:01.494):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:01.513):
Caret move detected using bookmarks. Elapsed: 0 ms
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes (12:18:01.516):
IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (12:18:01.526):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'as full induction and training will be provided.']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:02.311):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:18:02.361):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:02.361):
Focus event. Elapsed: 0 ms
IO - speech.speak (12:18:02.380):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'out of table', u'blank']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:03.719):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:18:03.765):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:18:03.780):
accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:03.877):
Caret didn't move before timeout. Elapsed: 100 ms
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:03.878):
error executing event: caret on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible object at 0x05BE20B0> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo
File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in _getCaretOffset
RuntimeError: no active caret in this object
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:04.535):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:04.611):
error executing event: caret on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible object at 0x03133150> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret
File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo
File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo
File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in _getCaretOffset
RuntimeError: no active caret in this object
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:08.239):
Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 2448 (conhost.exe) (12:18:08.299):
Thread 1108, build\x86_64\remote\ia2Support.cpp, installIA2Support, 86:
Error registering class object, code -2147221008

IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.302):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Taskbar']
IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.342):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'reboot nvda with log terminal']
IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.345):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'80 space', u'blank']
INFO - core.main (12:18:08.454):
Exiting

For those wondering, Symphony was the original name when IBM had the code.
Also on other parts of the program, it seems that the database part is completely inaccessible giving the impression nothing is on screen after the basic set up wizard has completed.

Brian

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Re: Question on a Firefox setting

 

To be honest why did they even change the engine, the only issues I have with this current release is that every so often mozilla defocuses and needs restarting when running any mozilla app, the system will semi freez to from time to time but its not to bad.

There is also the fact the address bar converts to a list when killing addresses but thats not an issue bar twitter and I worked round that.

On 17/09/2017 8:58 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
The other thing is that it also allows you to set it to update on various update channels, such as beta or release versions.
The issue with 56 is really one of where it focuses by default. It has a work around but is just annoying. I'm no6t certain why it was not back ported, but then programmers can sometimes work in mysterious ways.
There is nothing wrong with 55, and indeed on the older operating systems now not supported by nvda, you can only have 52 or 48 depending on your processor and they seem to work OK as well.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox setting


I know it's in there somewhere probably under Options which may be in Tools but the options has many tabs and one of them has a check box for automatically downloading and installing updates and I have mine unchecked but I can always do updates manually at any time.  When I hear of a version that isn't very screen reader friendly, I just wait a few weeks or maybe a month or so until the next update comes out and then get that.

Hope this helps you locate it but maybe someone else here can give you more exact instructions as to how to get to that little check box.

Roger









On 9/16/2017 12:02 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi list,
After reading the list discussion about Firefox v56, I am wondering how to adjust the setting to avoid automatic updates.

I use NVDA exclusively as my screen reader.
I am using Firefox 55.3, 32bit on a Windows7 machine.

How can I set Firefox to let me know about available updates tut to let me manually decide whether or not to update?

Thanks!
LM







Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

No 52 on intell chipped xp machines is as far up you can go. I suspect that photon is a development of the old version of the engine.
One problem I get on Firefox is the attitude that unless you are careful, they will install a 64 bit version on 64 bit systems, when all the tests I've tried tell me that the 32 bit version is just as good and less likely to crash or hog the processor.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 3:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?


i am not sure exactly about photon, but read comments in some of
sighted websites and many users were not satisfied with photon!
many wanted to migrate to another browser!

but it does not work on xp and i realy cant test.

On 9/17/17, Nika Tsiklauri <ntsiklauri2@gmail.com> wrote:
hi! zahra, i have tested it there. it works good. personaly for me it did. i
have not had experiencing the issues with it.



Sent from my iPhone

On Sep 16, 2017, at 13:47, Gene New Zealand
<hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:

hi Tony


Is it doing the following in short? it will not read any thing in your
browsers except edge in windows 10? can you get to any of the menus in
fire fox etc? Down where the running applications area is does nvda say
unknown as you arrow through that section? If you use the context menu
will it speak any of the items in it? I am wondering if is that bug?


have a look on my nvda audio tutorials page and go to the section on
trouble shooting and look for the heading that says unknown or pane for
windows 10.


I can not remember either but there is a patch etc but can not remember if
it is on that page as well. it might only be for windows 7 or 8 machines?


have a look at this ticket and read the comments down near the bottom. The
link to this page is
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2807#issuecomment-320149243

The steps that fixed a friends computer is on my nvda audio tutorials
page. but check out the comments first for the ticket.


Gene nz





On 16/09/2017 15:20, Tony Ballou wrote:
Hi,


I don't have that one however, I do have something similar. In firefox,
and a bunch of other apps on my machine, nvda doesn't read the menu bars,
tab controls, or certain textual areas of windows. Really odd, it
happened after installing the most recent set of updates for windows 10
version 1607. Called the Microsoft disability answer desk and its got
them scratching their heads as well

Tony

On 9/12/2017 11:50 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,

Does anyone else have this problem:

Start the latest stable NVDA, open the latest Firefox, restart NVDA, try
to arrow through the Firefox page. The arrow keys don’t work, just the
tab key.

Thank you,


Brandon Keith Biggs

Virus-free. www.avast.com
--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related
material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you
are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a
copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out
which locations (or location) is near to you please visit
http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa
People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,
please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The
certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified
individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed
the NVDA expert exam.

--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Does anyone have a link to Libra Office that can be used as a portable version? It will solvde an issue with clashing word processores in our group.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 3:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


hi.
libreoffice is fork of openoffice, but now i believe that libreoffice
is very stable in compare to openoffice!it works very better, the
features are more and in some aspects, there catogory is better to
understand.

if you want to download the last stable version of libreoffice for
32bit windows, here you are the link!

now openoffice and libreoffice dont require java and access briedge to work.

https://downloadarchive.documentfoundation.org/libreoffice/old/5.3.6.1/win/x86/LibreOffice_5.3.6.1_Win_x86.msi

On 9/17/17, Howard Traxler <howard@traxlerenterprises.com> wrote:
Hi, I just got here and thanks for letting me in.

Is Open Office and Libra Office the same thing? Some years ago, I tried to

use open office and had no success. Just now I installed Libra Office on my

XP machine and it seems to work ok with JAWS. Having problems with ms
office so was thinking of using Libra Office on my win10 machine with NVDA.

Anyone had experience with that? Thanks.

Howard

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


I don't think so actually. I know plenty of sighted people using Open
Office and Libra Office with no issues

My feeling on this is that its getting very complicated to hook into
processes that are both part of windows and may also be being used by
applications.Those with long memories will remember display chain drivers

in XP and earlier, where any piece of software that needed access to the
screen output had to hook in through a piece of software loaded at boot
time. The snag often was that some software did not do this well and the
whole thing slowed down or fell over.
If you are screen scraping this video monitoring was often the only way to

get at content for screenreaders. I can well recall that some upper end
graphics cards used by gamers had non standard drivers and the display
chain programs never worked right on them.
I suspect these days especially with ported programs like Open Office that

there are similar issues due to the portability of some of the code to
other operating systems.
Just my thoughts.
Brian
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From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


Obviously they are funded by microsoft and want you to buy microsoft
office.




On 15/09/2017 9:03 p.m., zahra wrote:
some antivirus consider openoffice libreoffice as trojen.

i mean aa.v antivirus and i read in the website:

www.libreofficeportable.org

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<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Never heard of this happening. Are you sure some dodgy anti virus has
not
just hidden it for you?
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 12:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


After installing NVDA Open Office stopped responding. I have a Dell
Inspiron running Windows 10. Also, I can no longer find NVDA on my
computer. I donated 15.00 two times and downloaded NVDA. Now it is
gone.

What are the solutions?

Jerry Schoen

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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
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Re: Question on a Firefox setting

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The other thing is that it also allows you to set it to update on various update channels, such as beta or release versions.
The issue with 56 is really one of where it focuses by default. It has a work around but is just annoying. I'm no6t certain why it was not back ported, but then programmers can sometimes work in mysterious ways.
There is nothing wrong with 55, and indeed on the older operating systems now not supported by nvda, you can only have 52 or 48 depending on your processor and they seem to work OK as well.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
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Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 7:36 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Question on a Firefox setting


I know it's in there somewhere probably under Options which may be in Tools but the options has many tabs and one of them has a check box for automatically downloading and installing updates and I have mine unchecked but I can always do updates manually at any time. When I hear of a version that isn't very screen reader friendly, I just wait a few weeks or maybe a month or so until the next update comes out and then get that.

Hope this helps you locate it but maybe someone else here can give you more exact instructions as to how to get to that little check box.

Roger









On 9/16/2017 12:02 PM, Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi list,
After reading the list discussion about Firefox v56, I am wondering how to adjust the setting to avoid automatic updates.

I use NVDA exclusively as my screen reader.
I am using Firefox 55.3, 32bit on a Windows7 machine.

How can I set Firefox to let me know about available updates tut to let me manually decide whether or not to update?

Thanks!
LM




Re: regarding ms access

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yes indeed but does the cursoring around in that field now work?
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Subject: Re: [nvda] regarding ms access


F2 allows you to edit any field.
Cindy


On September 15, 2017 4:39:03 AM "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"
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Not really, its a bit of a mixed up bit of software. As I said previously
trying to make a database and add macros can be basically a pathway to
insanity, but databases built by the sighted can be mostly accessible if
designed correctly, except for editing the entry fields.
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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] regarding ms access


I've heard of a lot of trouble with microsoft access and data bases over
the years. In fact a student I know had to drop a class bcause of
inaccessibility of access, and they were using jaws, and this was in 2012..
I hope someone else has better news.
On Sep 14, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Ravi Paswan <ravipaswan32@gmail.com> wrote:

hello group member I am facing a problime with using a NVDA I am doing the
MS access but NVDA is not supported the MS access program I am try the all
MS office version I have practical in MS access 2007, 2010, 2013, & 2016
but nvda is not working so please tel me how to solve this problem?






Re: regarding ms access

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F2 allows you to edit any field.
Cindy


On September 15, 2017 4:39:03 AM "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io"
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Not really, its a bit of a mixed up bit of software. As I said previously
trying to make a database and add macros can be basically a pathway to
insanity, but databases built by the sighted can be mostly accessible if
designed correctly, except for editing the entry fields.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] regarding ms access


I've heard of a lot of trouble with microsoft access and data bases over
the years. In fact a student I know had to drop a class bcause of
inaccessibility of access, and they were using jaws, and this was in 2012..
I hope someone else has better news.
On Sep 14, 2017, at 11:15 AM, Ravi Paswan <ravipaswan32@gmail.com> wrote:

hello group member I am facing a problime with using a NVDA I am doing the
MS access but NVDA is not supported the MS access program I am try the all
MS office version I have practical in MS access 2007, 2010, 2013, & 2016
but nvda is not working so please tel me how to solve this problem?




how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016

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Hi how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016?

I have the version 17.03 and I am running windows seven.

So is ther anything to whatch out for when using that program?

Or does it work just as it is with NVDA the latest version?