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Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?

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You say its in other applications. Is this mainly the context menus? That is often a pointer to some dll not registered if it happens all the time. Also sometimes even the nvda menu itself fails to read.

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Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 4:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?


Hi,


I don't have that one however, I do have something similar. In firefox, and a bunch of other apps on my machine, nvda doesn't read the menu bars, tab controls, or certain textual areas of windows. Really odd, it happened after installing the most recent set of updates for windows 10 version 1607. Called the Microsoft disability answer desk and its got them scratching their heads as well


Tony

On 9/12/2017 11:50 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
Does anyone else have this problem:
Start the latest stable NVDA, open the latest Firefox, restart NVDA, try to arrow through the Firefox page. The arrow keys don’t work, just the tab key.
Thank you,

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Re: More on weird focus events in firefox

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Yes, luckily in Windows 7 this is still quite rare, but I too have seen it. However it seems very bad in Firefox for some odd reason. I think most save dialogues tend to be part of windows, called by the running software and displayed by that software as and when needed. Sometimes the event telling nvda what to do seems to not arrive and hence the confusion. Going away and back makes nvda re evaluate the screen contents in some way

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Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] More on weird focus events in firefox


hello.
i sometimes have this problem in many save dialogs.
i use shift tab or tab many times and it works.
if does not, i press alt tab to go to another application and again
return to save dialog and it works!

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Below is a log of me trying to save a file to a specific folder in Firefox
55. all was going well as I tabbed around the savedialogue. It then stopped

saying anything with tab, shift tab or cursors. I then did an nvda/f1 with
the result below. OK so I know that often moveing away then back to the
active dialogue would probably bring it back but just wondered if anyone who

is on here knows what is going on here, as it seems to be contradicting
itself. ie is it desktop or Firefox,it surely cannot be both, no wonder its

silent....

IO - speech.speak (16:27:36):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Address:
C:\\Users\\Brian\\Downloads tool bar']
IO - speech.speak (16:27:36):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Desktop split button']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:40):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:41):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:42):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+tab
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:44):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:45):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:45):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:46):
Input: kb(desktop):leftArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:46):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:46):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:48):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:48):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:49):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:49):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:59):
Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+f1
INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo
(16:27:59):
Developer info for navigator object:
name: u'Desktop'
role: ROLE_SPLITBUTTON
states: STATE_FOCUSED
isFocusable: False
hasFocus: True
Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x05A42690>
Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class
'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>,
<type 'object'>)
description: None
location: (79, 31, 33, 17)
value: None
appModule: <'firefox' (appName u'firefox', process ID 1116) at address
59acff0>
appModule.productName: u'Firefox'
appModule.productVersion: u'55.0.3'
TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>
windowHandle: 1835988
windowClassName: u'ToolbarWindow32'
windowControlID: 1001
windowStyle: 1442887757
windowThreadID: 3604
windowText: u'Address: C:\\Users\\Brian\\Downloads'
displayText: u''
IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x86f0168 at 5a4ba30>
IAccessibleChildID: 0
IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=1835988, objectID=-4, childID=1
IAccessible accName: u'Desktop'
IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_SPLITBUTTON
IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_HOTTRACKED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED,
STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (132)
IAccessible accDescription: None
IAccessible accValue: None


So there you have it, not an uncommon thing. I use Windows 7 and its 64 bit

pro with 32 bit Firefox, version in the log.
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Re: NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding

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I think you would need to ask them that. However I suspect the uninstaller Open Office are using does not actually put things back as it was correctly, ie not registering dlls or forgetting to restore some to the version it had before.
Personally I do not understand why they do not make a portable version and then no registrations changes would be needed. Always updating and messing about with windows system files have caused all sorts of problems. The maths symbols reader for instance is another bit of dodgy software, even Microsofts demo versions of Office can leave things broken.
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Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 2:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


brian,
can you please explane me whats the reason that libreoffice has not
this problem?
i uninstalled and reinstalled many many times without any problem.

but when i uninstalled openoffice for the first time, brows mode,
navigation quick keys and arrow keys all became impossible for me
using firefox!
God bless you.

On 9/16/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Obviously they are funded by microsoft and want you to buy microsoft
office.




On 15/09/2017 9:03 p.m., zahra wrote:
some antivirus consider openoffice libreoffice as trojen.

i mean aa.v antivirus and i read in the website:

www.libreofficeportable.org

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Never heard of this happening. Are you sure some dodgy anti virus has
not
just hidden it for you?
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Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 12:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


After installing NVDA Open Office stopped responding. I have a Dell
Inspiron running Windows 10. Also, I can no longer find NVDA on my
computer. I donated 15.00 two times and downloaded NVDA. Now it is
gone.

What are the solutions?

Jerry Schoen

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Re: NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding

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I don't think so actually. I know plenty of sighted people using Open Office and Libra Office with no issues

My feeling on this is that its getting very complicated to hook into processes that are both part of windows and may also be being used by applications.Those with long memories will remember display chain drivers in XP and earlier, where any piece of software that needed access to the screen output had to hook in through a piece of software loaded at boot time. The snag often was that some software did not do this well and the whole thing slowed down or fell over.
If you are screen scraping this video monitoring was often the only way to get at content for screenreaders. I can well recall that some upper end graphics cards used by gamers had non standard drivers and the display chain programs never worked right on them.
I suspect these days especially with ported programs like Open Office that there are similar issues due to the portability of some of the code to other operating systems.
Just my thoughts.
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Sent: Saturday, September 16, 2017 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


Obviously they are funded by microsoft and want you to buy microsoft office.




On 15/09/2017 9:03 p.m., zahra wrote:
some antivirus consider openoffice libreoffice as trojen.

i mean aa.v antivirus and i read in the website:

www.libreofficeportable.org

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Never heard of this happening. Are you sure some dodgy anti virus has not
just hidden it for you?
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Subject: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


After installing NVDA Open Office stopped responding. I have a Dell
Inspiron running Windows 10. Also, I can no longer find NVDA on my
computer. I donated 15.00 two times and downloaded NVDA. Now it is gone.

What are the solutions?

Jerry Schoen

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Re: NVDA's "Modern" Sounds

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I think that no matter what you do, somebody will not like it. certainly some very tinny sounding and rattle laptops can have issues with the old ones.
However at the moment at least one cannot change the 'logo' bit of music at the start.. I quite like it and it does not impact on start up time, indeed it seems to help you figure out if the machine is running slow as its the first thing to start and multitasks with other stuff.

Also of course beeps for progress bars and updates is a sound generated live in the code, and hence not changeable. I suppose one could ask for this to be done some other way though as its most not subtle.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's "Modern" Sounds


I consider the new sounds modern. The do do do do has ben around since I think 2007 when nvda was first released. Funny. When I first heard nvda I told my friend to turn it off. I hated it. The overtones just hurt my ears over skype. Now I use nvda as my main thingy.. Hehahahahaha!
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However I do not think this matters as its multi tasking as sounds are played in any case. I'm not convinced the new sounds could be called modern, some sound like some of the games sounds you used to get from the old AY chips in 1980s computer consoles and computers!
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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's "Modern" Sounds


I think it's because the new wav files are smaller and shorter. The starting
and ending sounds are brief, and don't take nearly a second to play like the
old ones did.
Travis
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Sent: Thursday, September 14, 2017 7:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA's "Modern" Sounds


It was. I now have the files. They were in there for one update and that was
it. It actually felt faster with the new sounds, sounded all star trecky
and stuff. I loved it.
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They were actually only ever in the next branch in fact. as others say
they have them, I wont confuse the situation by doing any dropbox links.
Brian

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No. The NVDA sounds were changed in a master snap, but then changed back
to default. I would like to find those sounds.
On 9/13/2017 19:28, Dr. arvind singh brar wrote:
hello,

you can get the audio themes from the link belowb
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/AudioThemes3D.en.html


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Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?

 

hi.
did you test with previous versions of nvda like nvda 2017.1?

i realy love this version and have no important issue with it.

On 9/16/17, Nika Tsiklauri <ntsiklauri2@gmail.com> wrote:
I am sometimes experiencing this issue too. I switch to Google Chrome, and
actually it's less frequently to happen there. also, NVDA crashes when the
browser stops responding. no speech is made, and I have to actually hard
restart my PC.



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On Sep 16, 2017, at 09:33, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:

hi.
yes. firefox 57 recieves many changes.
firefox nightly means development version that the programmers use
most for resolving any issues before release of stable version.

firefox engin is changed from gecko to photon in firefox 57.

hope that help, God bless you all.

On 9/16/17, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi,


I don't have that one however, I do have something similar. In firefox,
and
a bunch of other apps on my machine, nvda doesn't read the menu bars,
tab
controls, or certain textual areas of windows. Really odd, it happened
after installing the most recent set of updates for windows 10 version
1607.
Called the Microsoft disability answer desk and its got them scratching
their heads as well


Tony

On 9/12/2017 11:50 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
Does anyone else have this problem:
Start the latest stable NVDA, open the latest Firefox, restart NVDA, try
to
arrow through the Firefox page. The arrow keys don’t work, just the tab
key.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs<http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;



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Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?

Nika Tsiklauri
 

I am sometimes experiencing this issue too. I switch to Google Chrome, and actually it's less frequently to happen there. also, NVDA crashes when the browser stops responding. no speech is made, and I have to actually hard restart my PC.



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On Sep 16, 2017, at 09:33, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:

hi.
yes. firefox 57 recieves many changes.
firefox nightly means development version that the programmers use
most for resolving any issues before release of stable version.

firefox engin is changed from gecko to photon in firefox 57.

hope that help, God bless you all.

On 9/16/17, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi,


I don't have that one however, I do have something similar. In firefox, and
a bunch of other apps on my machine, nvda doesn't read the menu bars, tab
controls, or certain textual areas of windows. Really odd, it happened
after installing the most recent set of updates for windows 10 version 1607.
Called the Microsoft disability answer desk and its got them scratching
their heads as well


Tony

On 9/12/2017 11:50 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
Does anyone else have this problem:
Start the latest stable NVDA, open the latest Firefox, restart NVDA, try to
arrow through the Firefox page. The arrow keys don’t work, just the tab
key.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs<http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;



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Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?

 

hi.
yes. firefox 57 recieves many changes.
firefox nightly means development version that the programmers use
most for resolving any issues before release of stable version.

firefox engin is changed from gecko to photon in firefox 57.

hope that help, God bless you all.

On 9/16/17, Tony Ballou <cyberpro224@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi,


I don't have that one however, I do have something similar. In firefox, and
a bunch of other apps on my machine, nvda doesn't read the menu bars, tab
controls, or certain textual areas of windows. Really odd, it happened
after installing the most recent set of updates for windows 10 version 1607.
Called the Microsoft disability answer desk and its got them scratching
their heads as well


Tony

On 9/12/2017 11:50 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:
Hello,
Does anyone else have this problem:
Start the latest stable NVDA, open the latest Firefox, restart NVDA, try to
arrow through the Firefox page. The arrow keys don’t work, just the tab
key.
Thank you,

Brandon Keith Biggs<http://brandonkeithbiggs.com/>;



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Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


I don't have that one however, I do have something similar.  In firefox, and a bunch of other apps on my machine, nvda doesn't read the menu bars, tab controls, or certain textual areas of windows.  Really odd, it happened after installing the most recent set of updates for windows 10 version 1607.  Called the Microsoft disability answer desk and its got them scratching their heads as well


Tony


On 9/12/2017 11:50 AM, Brandon Keith Biggs wrote:

Hello,

Does anyone else have this problem:

Start the latest stable NVDA, open the latest Firefox, restart NVDA, try to arrow through the Firefox page. The arrow keys don’t work, just the tab key.

Thank you,




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Re: Accessible antivirus programs

Tony Ballou
 

Hi,


Give malware bytes a look.


Tony


On 9/13/2017 5:24 PM, Greg Rhodes wrote:

Looking for an NVDA-friendly paid antivirus program. Suggestions?

 



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Re: Malwarebytes

Tony Ballou
 

Hi don,


It's about the most accessible antivirus program out right now and works
quite  well with nvda. there's a guide for using it at the accessibility
central website.


Tony

On 9/14/2017 8:49 AM, Don H wrote:
I am running NVDA 2017-3 on a Win 10 system.  It has been a while
since I tried Malwarebytes  but the last time I did it was not very
accessible with a screen reader.  Is that still the case?
Thanks




Re: Weather Plus 4.5 14.09.2017 wind data incorrect

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I also vote for the decimal point.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 7:06 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather Plus 4.5 14.09.2017 wind data incorrect

 

I vote for decimal point.

 

Dan Beaver

 

On 9/15/2017 9:14 AM, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi Dan,

 

Damn, I know, but use the comma myself, many have asked really.

We do so, let's put it to a vote.

comma yes or comma no?

If no one participates I'll leave the comma, after all, separates only 2 decimal places.

 

Cheers

Adriano

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Dan Beaver

Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 2:59 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather Plus 4.5 14.09.2017 wind data incorrect

 

Hmmm, why not a decimal point instead of a comma?  It would be more standard.

 

 

dan Beaver

 

On 9/15/2017 8:13 AM, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi Dan,

 

Are 4,35 mph, note the comma.

 

Cheers

Adriano

 

----- Original Message -----

From: Dan Beaver

Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 1:41 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather Plus 4.5 14.09.2017 wind data incorrect

 

Hi,

I installed the new update and when I press NVDA+w the wind data is incorrect.  I live in Lawrenceburg Kentucky and it says the wind is East Southeast at 435 mph.

I can promise it isn't blowing that hard. ;-))

Thanks.


Dan Beaver

 

 


Can anyone tell where to get nvda braille table .ctb file?

Muklesur Rahman
 

Hello group, I need .ctb braille file that nvda uses. Where to get
that file. I searched to nvda directory folder but not getting. please
suggest me if anyone knows.
Thank you.


Re: Weather Plus 4.5 14.09.2017 update available

Lisa P Geibel
 

Hi Gene and anyone else interested,

I have used this add on for quite some time and never had issues with updating it till this version in Windows 10. It looks like I was able to update it that time and my city appears in the city list as the only one, but I get nothing when I hit NVDA+w even though all check boxes are checked and I should hear something. The volume appears to be high enough I should hear something as well. Guess I'll give up on this one this time.

Lisa E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@... Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1 Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429 Philmore box shared with hubby: 773-572-7897 Big Brother update line is option 1 of our box and the breaking TV News updates line is option 9 of our box. You can hear our wedding with option 2. God bless everyone!!!

On 9/14/17 11:50 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Lisa


is this the first time you have used this add on? If it is and it is installed use the nvda key + letter n to get into nvda preferences. Arrow to general settings then down to the weather plus add on.


n

When you get to the add on a sub menu will come off it and say nset and manage your settings press the enter key on it.

the next screen will give you a whole eahp of options. The very first place where it lands will let you put in a town or ciy etc. In my case i say put hawera then tabbed to a button that says Test
This testing the validity of city woeID entry and find the name of city assigned, or v then pressed the space bar. It will then come up with some results. You can then arrow down the results and when you find the one you want use the tab key so it lands on the ok button then press the space bar.

it will then take you back to where you typed in the name of the town or city tab once it will land you on a button that will give you details to make sure it is the correct town or city tab again and it will give you the option to add it to the list press the space bar on it.

You can also keep on tabbing and there will be other options to choose from just use the space bar to check or uncheck the boxes you want to hear. make sure you tab to the ok button then press the space bar for it to take affect.

You can also preset that place as your default when you press the nvda key + letter W

You can also add more places by repeating the steps to add more places.

If you say added 4 you can get to them quickly by pressing the nvda key + ctrl key + shift key + letter W then arrow down the list to the one you want to hear from with nvda key + W.

hope the above helps.

Gene nz

 
On 15/09/2017 13:45, Lisa P Geibel wrote:

Hi,

I just downloaded the add on directly from the link provided and I'm told I'm running the correct version when I check for updates, but when I try to get a report with insert+w, I hear nothing. Please help?

Lisa E-Mail: lisapgeibel429@... Facebook: http://facebook.com/ldporter1 Twitter: http://twitter.com/LisaLisa429 Philmore box shared with hubby: 773-572-7897 Big Brother update line is option 1 of our box and the breaking TV News updates line is option 9 of our box. You can hear our wedding with option 2. God bless everyone!!!
On 9/14/17 9:38 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

Hi Adriano


The problem i was having now is fixed i downloaded the new add on and installed it and it is up and running again as usual.


Gene nz



On 15/09/2017 09:59, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi to every one,

Changes in this version:
* Improved update algorithm; now the link to update is directly read from manifest url.
In this way, Weather Plus should always find the base url even in the event of a change.

Weather Plus can update alone, however, it is possible to download
manually from the following links:
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus4.5.nvda-addon
or from page:
http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus/
or from page:
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/weatherPlus.en.html

Cheers
Adriano

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Re: More on weird focus events in firefox

 

hello.
i sometimes have this problem in many save dialogs.
i use shift tab or tab many times and it works.
if does not, i press alt tab to go to another application and again
return to save dialog and it works!

On 9/15/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Below is a log of me trying to save a file to a specific folder in Firefox
55. all was going well as I tabbed around the savedialogue. It then stopped

saying anything with tab, shift tab or cursors. I then did an nvda/f1 with
the result below. OK so I know that often moveing away then back to the
active dialogue would probably bring it back but just wondered if anyone who

is on here knows what is going on here, as it seems to be contradicting
itself. ie is it desktop or Firefox,it surely cannot be both, no wonder its

silent....

IO - speech.speak (16:27:36):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Address:
C:\\Users\\Brian\\Downloads tool bar']
IO - speech.speak (16:27:36):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Desktop split button']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:40):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:41):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:42):
Input: kb(desktop):shift+tab
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:44):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:45):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:45):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:46):
Input: kb(desktop):leftArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:46):
Input: kb(desktop):rightArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:46):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:48):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:48):
Input: kb(desktop):upArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:49):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:49):
Input: kb(desktop):tab
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (16:27:59):
Input: kb(desktop):NVDA+f1
INFO - globalCommands.GlobalCommands.script_navigatorObject_devInfo
(16:27:59):
Developer info for navigator object:
name: u'Desktop'
role: ROLE_SPLITBUTTON
states: STATE_FOCUSED
isFocusable: False
hasFocus: True
Python object: <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible object at 0x05A42690>
Python class mro: (<class 'NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible'>, <class
'NVDAObjects.window.Window'>, <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObject'>, <class
'baseObject.ScriptableObject'>, <class 'baseObject.AutoPropertyObject'>,
<type 'object'>)
description: None
location: (79, 31, 33, 17)
value: None
appModule: <'firefox' (appName u'firefox', process ID 1116) at address
59acff0>
appModule.productName: u'Firefox'
appModule.productVersion: u'55.0.3'
TextInfo: <class 'NVDAObjects.NVDAObjectTextInfo'>
windowHandle: 1835988
windowClassName: u'ToolbarWindow32'
windowControlID: 1001
windowStyle: 1442887757
windowThreadID: 3604
windowText: u'Address: C:\\Users\\Brian\\Downloads'
displayText: u''
IAccessibleObject: <POINTER(IAccessible) ptr=0x86f0168 at 5a4ba30>
IAccessibleChildID: 0
IAccessible event parameters: windowHandle=1835988, objectID=-4, childID=1
IAccessible accName: u'Desktop'
IAccessible accRole: ROLE_SYSTEM_SPLITBUTTON
IAccessible accState: STATE_SYSTEM_HOTTRACKED, STATE_SYSTEM_FOCUSED,
STATE_SYSTEM_VALID (132)
IAccessible accDescription: None
IAccessible accValue: None


So there you have it, not an uncommon thing. I use Windows 7 and its 64 bit

pro with 32 bit Firefox, version in the log.
Brian

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Re: NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding

 

brian,
can you please explane me whats the reason that libreoffice has not
this problem?
i uninstalled and reinstalled many many times without any problem.

but when i uninstalled openoffice for the first time, brows mode,
navigation quick keys and arrow keys all became impossible for me
using firefox!
God bless you.

On 9/16/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
Obviously they are funded by microsoft and want you to buy microsoft
office.




On 15/09/2017 9:03 p.m., zahra wrote:
some antivirus consider openoffice libreoffice as trojen.

i mean aa.v antivirus and i read in the website:

www.libreofficeportable.org

On 9/15/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Never heard of this happening. Are you sure some dodgy anti virus has
not
just hidden it for you?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Schoen via Groups.Io" <jschoen91711=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 12:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


After installing NVDA Open Office stopped responding. I have a Dell
Inspiron running Windows 10. Also, I can no longer find NVDA on my
computer. I donated 15.00 two times and downloaded NVDA. Now it is
gone.

What are the solutions?

Jerry Schoen

Sent from Mail for Windows 10



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al-islam.org


Re: weather plus app

mr. Chikodinaka Nickarandidum Oguledo
 

weather + add on no longer wokWorks with NVDA! sed Josoff Lee

On 9/15/17, Don H <lmddh50@adams.net> wrote:
To say the least it seems that the weather plus app update is always
troublesome.  I keep getting a notice that a  weather plus update is
available despite the fact that I have the latest version installed.
What is different about this app to cause update issues?





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Re: NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding

 

Obviously they are funded by microsoft and want you to buy microsoft office.

On 15/09/2017 9:03 p.m., zahra wrote:
some antivirus consider openoffice libreoffice as trojen.

i mean aa.v antivirus and i read in the website:

www.libreofficeportable.org

On 9/15/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
Never heard of this happening. Are you sure some dodgy anti virus has not
just hidden it for you?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jerry Schoen via Groups.Io" <jschoen91711=yahoo.com@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 12:58 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding


After installing NVDA Open Office stopped responding. I have a Dell
Inspiron running Windows 10. Also, I can no longer find NVDA on my
computer. I donated 15.00 two times and downloaded NVDA. Now it is gone.

What are the solutions?

Jerry Schoen

Sent from Mail for Windows 10



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Re: app news

Lino Morales
 

Did you set the app to receive breaking news alerts? I don't use that app, but I've set it up in the past to do this. I primarily use TW Blue which is a Twitter client.


On 9/15/2017 8:09 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
   
        Thanks but I want to use the news app from W10. I am not interested in twitter. I want to get help figure what is the problem with news app not giving me notification about current news.
From: Lino Morales
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] app news
 

A better solution is use Twitter for news. Works out great.


On 9/15/2017 7:36 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
   
Yes. However when I go to it nothing there.
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 5:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] app news
 
Can you get to the action center with windows plus a? If you act on an action right with windows v you should still be able to do what you want. No issues here.
On Sep 15, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...> wrote:
 
 

Hi, all
Help with this. I am using W10, NVDA. The news app is not consistent, There are times I get news messages from notification but it goes weeks without getting any. Before I was able to get news notification all the time. Now weeks goes without any. What can I check. Help, help.
Holger Fiallo
 



Re: app news

Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
 

   
        Thanks but I want to use the news app from W10. I am not interested in twitter. I want to get help figure what is the problem with news app not giving me notification about current news.

From: Lino Morales
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 6:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] app news
 

A better solution is use Twitter for news. Works out great.


On 9/15/2017 7:36 PM, Holger Fiallo wrote:
   
Yes. However when I go to it nothing there.
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Friday, September 15, 2017 5:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] app news
 
Can you get to the action center with windows plus a? If you act on an action right with windows v you should still be able to do what you want. No issues here.
On Sep 15, 2017, at 2:41 PM, Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...> wrote:
 
 

Hi, all
Help with this. I am using W10, NVDA. The news app is not consistent, There are times I get news messages from notification but it goes weeks without getting any. Before I was able to get news notification all the time. Now weeks goes without any. What can I check. Help, help.
Holger Fiallo