Re: NVDA hot keys equivalent to Window-Eyes
Quentin Christensen
As well as the direct assistance others have provided, another resource you might find useful is the guide that Gene wrote on switching from Window-Eyes to NVDA: https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/Switching-from-Window-Eyes-to-NVDA Regards Quentin.
On Mon, Sep 18, 2017 at 1:16 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote: Hi! --
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Re: how well does NVDA work with outlook 2016
Quentin Christensen
Hi Casey, In general, yes, it should work best with the latest version. I think the main problems at the moment are with Outlook on Windows 10. In any case, do let us know how you go. Regards Quentin.
On Sun, Sep 17, 2017 at 12:28 PM, Casey <cwollner@...> wrote:
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Re: slow NVDA
No issues here. Everything starts up as expected, and all is as snappy as it can be, even more so.
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Re: Thunderbird portable
I would recommend looking through Gene NZ's accessibilitycentral.net section entitled,
Accessible email client Mozilla Thunderbird -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1703, Build 15063 (dot level on request - it changes too often to keep in signature) The opposite of a correct statement is a false statement. But the opposite of a profound truth may well be another profound truth. ~ Niels Bohr
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slow NVDA
Holger Fiallo <hfiallo@...>
I am noticing that new NVDA is slow and takes a long time to move around when I start my PC. This was not an issue in the past. Now it is. Using current W10 and NVDA. Holger Fiallo
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Thunderbird portable
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I just downloaded this in the hope it would give me a fall back if anything happened to my Outlook Express. However I am still struggling with its interface.
Is there a simple to follow from the keyboard tutorial? I have put in my email account, a gmail one on imap for now just to test it, but it keeps on popping up messages about external content in the emails and complaining its not able to get some mail that I know is there and the way to simply read emails without getting involved with today yesterday and sorting seems to be very labour intensive. Is there a way to strip it down, so one can simply use it to see the tree of foldeers, open a folder run up and down the list inside and open and reply to messages without fuss and messing about? Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: Another Libra Office thread
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Well just used it in windows 7. I used the portable version. the best thing about this is that though you kind of install it, it keeps all its paths and registry stuff local and not in the basic system area on your pc, so no issues with uninstalling it, just like the portable nvda.
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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:19 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Another Libra Office thread hi brian.
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Re: Issues with NVDA on Windows Logon Screen
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I also might suggest that one makes sure the machine has not got the issue which mine had with a file that would not copy over when use current settings on log on screen. That ended up with me having two different configs and the poor old thing got itself confused. You could of course get in if you disabled the log in screen, but one assumes in the case of the person with the issue this is not an option.
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If you find the copy current config to system goes on forever, then do an alt tab and you will see errors hidden behind the dialogue on screen. Eventually I renamed the .dic file causing the issue manually by going into my named user option and navigating to the right folder there. However, I wonder if you installed nvda with the correct user privs in the first place? Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:17 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Issues with NVDA on Windows Logon Screen hi.
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Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?
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Yes but I do not want that, and indeed now run 32 bit on my 64 bit windows 7 machine and its far more stable for me at least. It can be done if you download the offline installer, ie the files that install it rather than the stub they use to decide. I think its clever enough that it won't enforce a 64 bit install if a 32 bit is already there. to me the problem is this. Nvda and a lot of other software is 32 bit often they get too use a core and that is that, in 64 bit apps like the 64 bit
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Firefox, it can use many cores and hence slow other things running in those cores as most machines do not multithread but simply time slice the processor. I suspect this is what the problem often is, Microsofts operating system though able to run both types of software is not so clever that it can protect one thing over another. The main thing about using 64 bit apps is that they can use more memory directly addressed from the system than a 32 bit can of course. I'm not sure why any browser would need to have access to such huge lumps of memory myself.. grin. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Sunday, September 17, 2017 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA? hi brian. according to whats new, firefox 64 bit is installed by default on 64 bit computers. ◦ Firefox for Windows 64-bit is now installed by default on 64-bit systems with at least 2GB of RAM ◦ Full installers with advanced installation options are still available https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/55.0/releasenotes/ On 9/17/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote: No 52 on intell chipped xp machines is as far up you can go. I suspect that -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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Re: NVDA Causes Open Office to stop Responding
you can download libreoffice portable from:
www.libreofficeportable.org On 9/17/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote: Does anyone have a link to Libra Office that can be used as a portable -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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Re: Question on a Firefox setting
thanks brian very much for your great information and God bless you.
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On 9/17/17, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:
To be honest why did they even change the engine, the only issues I have --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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Re: Another Libra Office thread
hi brian.
my issue was libreoffice crash or unresponsive as i remember if i am correct which i tested two years ago. On 9/17/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote: I downloaded the portable version and stuck it into a folder. On writer it -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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Re: Issues with NVDA on Windows Logon Screen
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please check also Automatically start NVDA after I log on to Windows. Use NVDA on the Windows logon screen (requires administrator privileges) and also Use currently saved settings on the logon and other secure screens (requires administrator privileges) i am not familiar with u.ac, but i think turning on all the items which i mentioned can help you. God bless you.
On 9/17/17, Mahesh S. Panicker <maheshspanicker@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi listers, --
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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Re: NVDA hot keys equivalent to Window-Eyes
Rui Fontes
Hi!
If I am not mistaken: Read active window Control-shift- w NVDA + B Speak summary control-shift-s I suppose this function is not available in NVDA! Title/status of current active programme control-shift t NVDA+T status line control-insert-s NVDA+End highlighted block control-shift-m If you mean the selected text, NVDA+Shift+UpArrow field data control-shift-d field name control-shift-n I suppose both are included in NVDA+Tab. Rui
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Re: Does Anyone Else Have This Bug in Firefox Using NVDA?
hi brian.
according to whats new, firefox 64 bit is installed by default on 64 bit computers. ◦ Firefox for Windows 64-bit is now installed by default on 64-bit systems with at least 2GB of RAM ◦ Full installers with advanced installation options are still available https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/55.0/releasenotes/ On 9/17/17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote: No 52 on intell chipped xp machines is as far up you can go. I suspect that -- we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation. holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107. in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is: indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation. best website for studying islamic book in different languages www.al-islam.org
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Re: NVDA hot keys equivalent to Window-Eyes
Gene
Read title bar is NVdA key t. The NVDA key is
either insert by default.
Read current window is NVDA key b. But
this may not read the same things, sometimes more, sometimes less, sometimes
other information than what you expect, sometimes much less, for reasons I don't
know, because of how it works. It reads every object in the current
screen. If that produces the results you want, that's fine but this may be
an example of where, a fair amount of time, knowing how to use screen review and
object navigation may be far better alternatives than just issuing this
command.
Gene
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Subject: [nvda] NVDA hot keys equivalent
to Window-Eyes
As an ex-user of Window-Eyes and now a total confirmed user of NVDA, could someone please tell me the equivalent keys for the following Window-Eyes hot keys? Read active window Control-shift- w Speak summary control-shift-s Title/status of current active programme control-shift t status line control-insert-s highlighted block control-shift-m field data control-shift-d field name control-shift-n Thanks and regards, Akbar
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Issues with NVDA on Windows Logon Screen
Mahesh S. Panicker
Hi listers,
I have been facing a strange issue with NVDA on the Windows logon screen. I have an Acer machine running Windows 10. I set NVDA to start at the logon screen. The user account control promptly appeared and I clicked yes there. However, when I shut the system down and restarted it, NVDA didn't launch. However, after I completely turned User Account Control off, it does start, and starts faster than Jaws would manage. Is there a way to get it to work on the Windows logon screen even though UAC is turned on and set to 67 percent? Regards, -- Dr. Mahesh S. Panicker Assistant Professor, Department of Political Science, Lady Shri Ram College for Women, Lajpat Nagar New Delhi 110024
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NVDA hot keys equivalent to Window-Eyes
Akbar S. Currim <raahzam@...>
Hi,
As an ex-user of Window-Eyes and now a total confirmed user of NVDA, could someone please tell me the equivalent keys for the following Window-Eyes hot keys? Read active window Control-shift- w Speak summary control-shift-s Title/status of current active programme control-shift t status line control-insert-s highlighted block control-shift-m field data control-shift-d field name control-shift-n Thanks and regards, Akbar
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Another Libra Office thread
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I downloaded the portable version and stuck it into a folder. On writer it has more troubles with tables than just not announcing their coordinates as has been ticketed, and not just the lack of Say all below a visible page or if too many blank lines occur. it also seems to have issues at boundaries of tables top and bottom needing some jugling to get into and out of them as below.
IO - speech.speak (12:18:00.986): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'row 6', u'\xb75\tNo prior experience of supporting people with sight loss is required '] IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:01.494): Input: kb(desktop):downArrow DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:01.513): Caret move detected using bookmarks. Elapsed: 0 ms DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2Attributes (12:18:01.516): IAccessibleObject.attributes COMError (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0, None)) IO - speech.speak (12:18:01.526): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'as full induction and training will be provided.'] IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:02.311): Input: kb(desktop):downArrow DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:18:02.361): accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0, None)) DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:02.361): Focus event. Elapsed: 0 ms IO - speech.speak (12:18:02.380): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'out of table', u'blank'] IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:03.719): Input: kb(desktop):downArrow DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:18:03.765): accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0, None)) DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (12:18:03.780): accRole failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None, None, None, 0, None)) DEBUG - editableText.EditableText._hasCaretMoved (12:18:03.877): Caret didn't move before timeout. Elapsed: 100 ms ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:03.878): error executing event: caret on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible object at 0x05BE20B0> with extra args of {} Traceback (most recent call last): File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__ File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__ File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in _getCaretOffset RuntimeError: no active caret in this object IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:04.535): Input: kb(desktop):downArrow ERROR - eventHandler.executeEvent (12:18:04.611): error executing event: caret on <NVDAObjects.Dynamic_SymphonyParagraphSymphonyTextEditableTextWithAutoSelectDetectionIAccessible object at 0x03133150> with extra args of {} Traceback (most recent call last): File "eventHandler.pyc", line 143, in executeEvent File "eventHandler.pyc", line 91, in __init__ File "eventHandler.pyc", line 98, in next File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 432, in event_caret File "treeInterceptorHandler.pyc", line 153, in makeTextInfo File "compoundDocuments.pyc", line 197, in __init__ File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyc", line 1018, in makeTextInfo File "textInfos\offsets.pyc", line 298, in __init__ File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyc", line 156, in _getCaretOffset RuntimeError: no active caret in this object IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (12:18:08.239): Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+r DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 2448 (conhost.exe) (12:18:08.299): Thread 1108, build\x86_64\remote\ia2Support.cpp, installIA2Support, 86: Error registering class object, code -2147221008 IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.302): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Taskbar'] IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.342): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'reboot nvda with log terminal'] IO - speech.speak (12:18:08.345): Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'80 space', u'blank'] INFO - core.main (12:18:08.454): Exiting For those wondering, Symphony was the original name when IBM had the code. Also on other parts of the program, it seems that the database part is completely inaccessible giving the impression nothing is on screen after the basic set up wizard has completed. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal email to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: Question on a Firefox setting
To be honest why did they even change the engine, the only issues I have with this current release is that every so often mozilla defocuses and needs restarting when running any mozilla app, the system will semi freez to from time to time but its not to bad.
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There is also the fact the address bar converts to a list when killing addresses but thats not an issue bar twitter and I worked round that.
On 17/09/2017 8:58 p.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
The other thing is that it also allows you to set it to update on various update channels, such as beta or release versions.
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