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Re: NVDA links and buttons on websites

Gene
 

The person didn't make any such qualifications. The question was how to deal with links and buttons that don't work with either enter or NVDA backslash. See the message last in this thread.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Laughing Thunder
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 12:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA links and buttons on websites

Perhaps, but it sounds like the original poster was talking about elements that don’t even work or identify themselves as buttons at all. For those you have to use the mouse to interact with them.
On Jul 16, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Gianluigi Coppelletti <gianluigi@uicparma.it> wrote:

Hi,

what about using focus mode?

I encounter this issue in the backend of a cms that I use every day. Usually, to solve this problem, I press nvda+spacebar then I tab to the required button and I press enter.

For me it works.

Hth.

Bye.

Gigi

Il 16/07/2020 12.44, Hettie ha scritto:
Hi all

Is there any solution for links and buttons that doesn't react to the enter key on certain websites? Pressing the NVDA key and slash on the keypad doesn't work either. A friend of mine started at a new job and this presents a major problem for him.


Hettie




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Laughingthunder


Re: McAfee Antivirus does not work with NVDA

Gene
 

I should add that since this was done, Avast has become less accessible and I don't think it is sufficiently accessible to be used with any screen-reader.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Berry
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 12:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] McAffee Antivirus does not work with NVDA

It does work with JAWS and there is really no reason why it couldn't
work with NVDA.



On 7/16/2020 7:11 AM, Gene wrote:
That's not surprising. Increasing numbers of antivirus programs don't work with screen-readers. It may work with JAWS; you might want to try JAWS to see but I'm far from optimistic.

If you are using Windows 10, Windows Defender is highly rated and well thought of. If Malware Bytes is still accessible, you may want to use that as well.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Scott Berry
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 7:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] McAffee Antivirus does not work with NVDA

Hello there,


It looks as though the new McAffee antivirus doesn't work with N'Vda.
It simply says: "Chrome: Cannot read old Chrome."







Re: McAfee Antivirus does not work with NVDA

Gene
 

It depends. Years ago, Avast wasn't accessible with screen-readers. In order to allow information to reach JAWS from Avast, the developers explicitly told Avast to let JAWS see the information. Without that explicit exception, allowing information to reach the screen-reader was stopped by the self defense system of NVDA.

I'm not saying the same situation exists today, but it can't be assumed that because an antivirus program works with one screen-reader that it will work with others.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Scott Berry
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 12:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] McAffee Antivirus does not work with NVDA

It does work with JAWS and there is really no reason why it couldn't
work with NVDA.



On 7/16/2020 7:11 AM, Gene wrote:
That's not surprising. Increasing numbers of antivirus programs don't work with screen-readers. It may work with JAWS; you might want to try JAWS to see but I'm far from optimistic.

If you are using Windows 10, Windows Defender is highly rated and well thought of. If Malware Bytes is still accessible, you may want to use that as well.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Scott Berry
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 7:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] McAffee Antivirus does not work with NVDA

Hello there,


It looks as though the new McAffee antivirus doesn't work with N'Vda.
It simply says: "Chrome: Cannot read old Chrome."







Re: strange little problem using nvda help and whats new.

CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...>
 

Hello.
You need to configure Edge for open files *.htm and *.html.
Regards.
Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.
Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual en el
uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.
Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

Musicien (pianist) and also help to users with a visual disability in the use of screen readers and technology.
Certified expert in screen reader NVDA.



El mié., 15 de jul. de 2020 a la(s) 15:49, Kevin Cussick via groups.io (the.big.white.shepherd=googlemail.com@groups.io) escribió:
Hi all,   I have MS edge as the default browser,   but each time I hit
nvda h then the letter n for WATS new firefox opens why? and Yes it is
set to edge as default.




Re: office 2019 word and nvda

CARLOS-ESTEBAN <carlosestebanpianista@...>
 

Hello.
I use Office 2019 and I no have this problem.
Well, if the problem is also with others screen readers, somme update of Office 2019 have a bug.
A possible solution is open a program of Office (Word, Excel for example), go to the tab account and install updates.
But is possible that the cause is other.
Regards.

Carlos Esteban Martínez Macías.
Músico (pianista) y también ayuda a usuarios con discapacidad visual en el
uso de lectores de pantalla y tecnología.
Experto certificado en el lector de pantalla NVDA.

Musicien (pianist) and also help to users with a visual disability in the use of screen readers and technology.
Certified expert in screen reader NVDA.



El jue., 16 de jul. de 2020 a la(s) 10:50, Laughing Thunder (laughingthunder26@...) escribió:
Yep! It’s definitely an issue. I’ve had it happen several times already, and I have someone at work who uses Jaws  and reports the same issue as well.
> On Jul 15, 2020, at 10:14 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
>
> Hi.
>
> I have not got a log for this but it happens every time I open office 2019 and then after closing it.
>
> Nvda will stop responding for 10 seconds like look as if it just died but will eventually come back.
>
> After that, nvda will not read the search box in windows properly in the start menu till I restart nvda.
>
> I am not an office user though just an admin for a few systems with it.
>
> Its happened on a couple systems and now another user on another list I am on reports this.
>
> So I think it can be reproduced.
>
>
> I have yet to look for a log, but since its happened on 3 other occasions I thought I'd ask here and see if someone else can confirm it for me and either get me to report it or set the ticket.
>
>
>
>
>


--
Laughingthunder




Re: NVDA links and buttons on websites

 

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 01:21 PM, Laughing Thunder wrote:
but it sounds like the original poster was talking about elements that don’t even work or identify themselves as buttons at all.
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What follows is not a criticism of you, but a general observation:  This why I ask, again and again, for URLs to be provided if at all possible.

Educated conjecture is indeed valuable, but it is still no substitute for having an actual example to attempt to work with as far as determining what is actually happening, and that's the thing no one participating on this topic knows, including me.

It is exceptionally difficult to give focused, accurate advice based on an abstract example that has uncertain behavior occurring.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: NVDA links and buttons on websites

Laughing Thunder
 

Perhaps, but it sounds like the original poster was talking about elements that don’t even work or identify themselves as buttons at all. For those you have to use the mouse to interact with them.

On Jul 16, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Gianluigi Coppelletti <gianluigi@uicparma.it> wrote:

Hi,

what about using focus mode?

I encounter this issue in the backend of a cms that I use every day. Usually, to solve this problem, I press nvda+spacebar then I tab to the required button and I press enter.

For me it works.

Hth.

Bye.

Gigi

Il 16/07/2020 12.44, Hettie ha scritto:
Hi all

Is there any solution for links and buttons that doesn't react to the enter key on certain websites? Pressing the NVDA key and slash on the keypad doesn't work either. A friend of mine started at a new job and this presents a major problem for him.


Hettie



--
Laughingthunder


Re: NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

Laughing Thunder
 

Use the button to copy your current configuration to the logon screen in the general category of the NVDA settings. That should get it working. NVDA uses a completely different configuration on the login and control alt delete screens.


On Jul 16, 2020, at 12:18 PM, Cristina Ebetiuc <ebetiucristina@...> wrote:



Thanks Brian!

I managed now to make NVDA reacting in security fields. How can I make Braille work ther, too?

Greetings

 

Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10

 

Von: Brian Vogel
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2020 19:13
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

 

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 01:01 PM, Cristina Ebetiuc wrote:

I have activated that but somehow it does not work. Why?

I presume you mean you have managed to bring up Task Manager, but it's not behaving as expected.  There were some significant changes in Task Manager with the introduction of Windows 10, and there is a lot of material on the group archive here, as well as the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users archive, about dealing with Task Manager under Windows 10.

Searching the NVDA Group Archive

Searching the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group Archive
 
If by "does not work" you mean that Task Manager is not appearing, then, please, try the alternate invocation shortcut, CTRL+SHIFT+ESC that was offered by Gene.  It is highly unlikely that it would not work to bring up Task Manager if CTRL+ALT+DEL is not working.

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

 


--
Laughingthunder


Re: NVDA links and buttons on websites

Gianluigi Coppelletti
 

Hi,

what about using focus mode?

I encounter this issue in the backend of a cms that I use every day. Usually, to solve this problem, I press nvda+spacebar then I tab to the required button and I press enter.

For me it works.

Hth.

Bye.

Gigi

Il 16/07/2020 12.44, Hettie ha scritto:
Hi all

Is there any solution for links and buttons that doesn't react to the enter key on certain websites? Pressing the NVDA key and slash on the keypad doesn't work either. A friend of mine started at a new job and this presents a major problem for him.


Hettie



Re: NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

Cristina Ebetiuc
 

Thanks Brian!

I managed now to make NVDA reacting in security fields. How can I make Braille work ther, too?

Greetings

 

Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10

 

Von: Brian Vogel
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2020 19:13
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

 

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 01:01 PM, Cristina Ebetiuc wrote:

I have activated that but somehow it does not work. Why?

I presume you mean you have managed to bring up Task Manager, but it's not behaving as expected.  There were some significant changes in Task Manager with the introduction of Windows 10, and there is a lot of material on the group archive here, as well as the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users archive, about dealing with Task Manager under Windows 10.

Searching the NVDA Group Archive

Searching the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group Archive
 
If by "does not work" you mean that Task Manager is not appearing, then, please, try the alternate invocation shortcut, CTRL+SHIFT+ESC that was offered by Gene.  It is highly unlikely that it would not work to bring up Task Manager if CTRL+ALT+DEL is not working.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

 


Re: NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

Laughing Thunder
 

If NVDA is installed on the computer, you need to enable the option to use NVDA on the windows logon screen first. if you are using a portable copy and you can’t install it to the computer, then you don’t have this option available to you.


On Jul 16, 2020, at 11:27 AM, Cristina Ebetiuc <ebetiucristina@...> wrote:



Hello!

NVDA does not react when I press ctrl+alt+delete to see the taskmanage, and other Options. Is ther a solving?

Thanks and greetings

 

Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10

 


--
Laughingthunder


Re: NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

 

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 01:01 PM, Cristina Ebetiuc wrote:
I have activated that but somehow it does not work. Why?
I presume you mean you have managed to bring up Task Manager, but it's not behaving as expected.  There were some significant changes in Task Manager with the introduction of Windows 10, and there is a lot of material on the group archive here, as well as the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users archive, about dealing with Task Manager under Windows 10.

Searching the NVDA Group Archive

Searching the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group Archive
 
If by "does not work" you mean that Task Manager is not appearing, then, please, try the alternate invocation shortcut, CTRL+SHIFT+ESC that was offered by Gene.  It is highly unlikely that it would not work to bring up Task Manager if CTRL+ALT+DEL is not working.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: McAfee Antivirus does not work with NVDA

Scott Berry
 

It does work with JAWS and there is really no reason why it couldn't work with NVDA.

On 7/16/2020 7:11 AM, Gene wrote:
That's not surprising.  Increasing numbers of antivirus programs don't work with screen-readers.  It may work with JAWS; you might want to try JAWS to see but I'm far from optimistic.

If you are using Windows 10, Windows Defender is highly rated and well thought of.  If Malware Bytes is still accessible, you may want to use that as well.

Gene
-----Original Message----- From: Scott Berry
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 7:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] McAffee Antivirus does not work with NVDA

Hello there,


It looks as though the new McAffee antivirus doesn't work with N'Vda.
It simply says:  "Chrome:  Cannot read old Chrome."






Re: NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

Cristina Ebetiuc
 

Hello!

I have activated that but somehow it does not work. Why?

 

Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10

 

Von: Brian Vogel
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Juli 2020 18:36
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

 

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:31 PM, Gene wrote:

To bring up the task manager, the command, for many versions of Windows has been control shift escape.

While this is indeed true, CTRL+ALT+Delete has never been removed as an invocation for Task Manager.  It should invoke Task Manager in all versions of Windows, up through and including the latest versions of Windows 10.

It's all I've ever used, and still use.  As is so often the case with Windows, there is more than one way (in this case, shortcut) to achieve the same ends.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 

 


Re: NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

 

On Thu, Jul 16, 2020 at 12:31 PM, Gene wrote:
To bring up the task manager, the command, for many versions of Windows has been control shift escape.
While this is indeed true, CTRL+ALT+Delete has never been removed as an invocation for Task Manager.  It should invoke Task Manager in all versions of Windows, up through and including the latest versions of Windows 10.

It's all I've ever used, and still use.  As is so often the case with Windows, there is more than one way (in this case, shortcut) to achieve the same ends.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform.  Now, you simply declare your own truth.

      ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019

 

 


Re: NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

Chris
 

We’ve moved on from XP

 

Its now ctrl+shift+esc

 

 

From: Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: 16 July 2020 17:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

 

Hello!

NVDA does not react when I press ctrl+alt+delete to see the taskmanage, and other Options. Is ther a solving?

Thanks and greetings

 

Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10

 

 


Re: NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

 

Hi,

To open Task Manager, press Control+Shift+Escape.

In order for nVDA to respond when you press Control+Alt+Delete, NVDA must be configured to load in secure screens (NVDA settings/General).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 9:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

 

Hello!

NVDA does not react when I press ctrl+alt+delete to see the taskmanage, and other Options. Is ther a solving?

Thanks and greetings

 

Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10

 


Re: NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

Gene
 

I don't know what, if anything control alt delete does in Windows 10. To bring up the task manager, the command, for many versions of Windows has been control shift escape.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Cristina Ebetiuc
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 11:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete



Hello!

NVDA does not react when I press ctrl+alt+delete to see the taskmanage, and other Options. Is ther a solving?

Thanks and greetings



Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10


NVDA does not react when pressing ctrl+alt+delete

Cristina Ebetiuc
 

Hello!

NVDA does not react when I press ctrl+alt+delete to see the taskmanage, and other Options. Is ther a solving?

Thanks and greetings

 

Gesendet von Mail für Windows 10

 


Re: Minor thing — NVDA and Windows Hello

 

Hi,
I bet NVDA is handling all events at once for this situation. Fixing this is a bit hard:
1. This is hardware-specific: a system with an IR (infrared) camera must be required to troubleshoot this problem.
2. This requires troubleshooting secure screen code, as these messages are announced by login prompt window.
The thing is, I don't have an IR camera equipped system - my ThinkPad includes a fingerprint reader, which does allow Windows Hello to work.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 8:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Minor thing — NVDA and Windows Hello

I wouldn't assume it’s a bug. Screen-readers function in complex environments and at times things happen that cause minor anomalies that don't matter. I suspect in this case, that the screen-reader is repeating because of something visual that is occurring such as the messages flashing on screen. It would be interesting to have a sighted person look at the screen and see if something that can be seen is causing the repeated behavior.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Luke Robinett
Sent: Thursday, July 16, 2020 10:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Minor thing — NVDA and Windows Hello

My work laptop is running Windows 10 Pro and has Windows Hello enabled for face recognition at the logon screen. There are three messages spoken aloud as the system attempts to authenticate you: ”looking for you,” ”making sure it’s you” and ”hello (username).” NVDA repeats each of these three phrases exactly 3 times. Not a big deal and certainly doesn’t impede functionality, but obviously a bug so I thought I would share.

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