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Re: virtualizing the current window for further review?

Kevin Cussick
 

and think nvda r might do it.

On 26/11/2017 20:27, John Isige wrote:
There is an addon, that gives you a hotkey.
https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/virtualRevision.en.html
On 11/26/2017 14:24, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I didn't' actually see it, but  I thougth there was a  keyboard hot key I could hit to do this, or am I thinking of a different screen reader.

Take care

On Nov 26, 2017, at 12:20 PM, John Isige <gwynn@tds.net> wrote:

There' an addon.


On 11/26/2017 14:19, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Is there  a way of doing this? Can I hit a key stroke that will turn let's say an error window into a virtual buffer for which I can then copy to the clip board?

I thought there was a way to do this but I'm using the laptop layout.

Take care



Re: FW: [win10] nvda, and tutorials

Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>
 

Hi


I just went looking for guides etc done by users etc on both the community website and the nv access website do you reckon i could find them easily?


I think it was quicker for me to do a search with google.


I did go to the cummunity link but way down the page past all the other stuff there was a link to the https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda-community/wiki/Guides

New users would not really have a idea to do that unless they were taken straight to that page.


I think I would rather just be pointed straight to the page from nvda.


I did also look under the nvaccess page as well i could find some info under the get help sectionot the guides.

plus the shop was easy to find. But I think maybe a couple of other sections could go there 2 to make it easier for people to find the type of info by people of the community.

.


Gene nz



On 11/22/2017 10:42 AM, Tony Ballou wrote:
Hi,


Just my take but I think this is a great idea to have that as well as 
links to the accessibility central website is there is a myriad of 
tutorials and information about NVDA there. Think of it as a one-stop shop.


Tony


On 11/20/2017 8:07 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi Quentin,
Any thoughts on this?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: win10@win10.groups.io [mailto:win10@win10.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Monday, November 20, 2017 5:05 PM
To: win10@win10.groups.io
Subject: [win10] nvda, and tutorials

Hi.

It seems to me with all the drama going on on here that a few things need to happen.

Firstly if there isn't a tutorials page on the nvda wiki maybe it needs to be visible, maybe as part of the support page  or download page or even main pages you should have links to the user guide, audio demos of features, audio and text tutorials maybe some sort of faq to.

It would really cut down on all the drama on here if someone wants to fine a tutorial that we can give a centralised location where all links to tutorials on and off site are placed.

Its only a suggestion, I am unsure how to make it a formal proposal but it would be a good way to make most of this stuff go away and would be generally good.

If this stuff exists deep down somewhere maybe it could be brought together somewhere and if someone has a lot of it somewhere else then it should be linked in this central location to.












--
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Re: closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA

Dan Beaver
 

Well, under Firefox ctrl+f4 closes the tab I am currently viewing.  ctrl+w closes the browser.  I have never tried using ctrl+w under Firefox before now.


Under Chrome ctrl+f4 closes the browser and ctrl+w closes the current tab if I have multiple tabs open.


Dan Beaver


On 11/26/2017 2:42 PM, Gene wrote:
What does control w do?  If you have multiple windows opened in other programs, what does control f4 and control w do?
 
Gene

From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA

Wow! Maybe there is something wrong with my system.  I have tried this lots of times because of my habit from using Firefox.  But no matter how many tabs I have open it always closes all of them and terminates Chrome.


Oh well.


Dan Beaver


On 11/26/2017 2:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why control f4 closes the program when there are multiple tabs opened.  Here, it closes the tab I'm in and nothing else.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA

Actually, with multiple tabs open ctrl+f4 closes all tabs.  That is why I was trying to find out what would close just one tab.  It acts like alt+f4 and that surprised me.


Dan Beaver


On 11/26/2017 10:07 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:
CTRL-F4 does indeed work.  In fact ctrl-w used to do something else in chrome, so if it works now, it's a change.
Chris


On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Which is the same for Firefox i seem to recall.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adriani Botez" <adriani.botez@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA


Ctrl + w

Best
Adriani


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 25.11.2017 um 15:08 schrieb Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...>:

Hi,



How do I do this?  I can close the entire browser but not just a tab.  I don't see a way in the help either.



Thanks.



Dan Beaver








--
Christopher Bartlett




Re: virtualizing the current window for further review?

 

Hi,
You might be thinking of both: a different screen reader which does provide
a command to do it, and an NVDA add-on that simu8lates it. Actually, come to
think of it, there is a third way (with NVDA 2017.3 and later), but if NVDA
can cope with invisible objects on screen.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k
Alawami
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 12:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] virtualizing the current window for further review?

I didn't' actually see it, but I thougth there was a keyboard hot key I
could hit to do this, or am I thinking of a different screen reader.

Take care

On Nov 26, 2017, at 12:20 PM, John Isige <gwynn@tds.net> wrote:

There' an addon.


On 11/26/2017 14:19, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Is there a way of doing this? Can I hit a key stroke that will turn
let's say an error window into a virtual buffer for which I can then copy to
the clip board?

I thought there was a way to do this but I'm using the laptop layout.

Take care



Re: what NVDA echos

 

Hi,

One way to find out: try it with Espeak NG set as the synthesizer.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Dan Beaver
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 12:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos

 

Hi Gene,

 

I too am seeing the same weirdness.  I am running NVDA 2017-3 and the MS One core voice David.  It is reading cup from his email as Cuban Pesos.  He had it spelled with lower case letters and still it says Cuban Pesos.

 

This is not the only weirdness i have experienced in several of the synthesizers.  This is also not the only word that it says in a strange way.  I tend to fix them by making speech dictionary changes to correct them.  I have tried to find the offending dictionary entries so I could just remove them but have not been able to find one in most cases.

 

Hope this helps.

 

Dan Beaver

 

On 11/26/2017 2:38 PM, Gene wrote:

If cup is the abbreviation for Cuban pesos, adding an s may cause it not to be recognized since it isn't the correct form.  Are you objecting to the slash or the Cuban Pesos?  How is your punctuation set?  You will have to set it to none not to hear the slash. 

 

Also, let's be sure nothing is being overlooked.  It is unlikely that the word cup would be read as Cuban pesos by any synthesizer or screen-reader.  If it were, then any time the word cup were found in text, it would be read as Cuban pesos as in "My Cuban pesos runneth over."  So check the recipe.  How, exactly is it written?  Is it written as cup or as cp?  Is it small letters or capitalized? 


Gene

Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:07 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos

 

Well I removed decaccess32 and using the one core voice David and still
hearing 1 slash 2 cuban pesos flour. for the following line.
1/2 cup flour.
And if I add s to cup, it says it correctly.  Stilled baffled!

On 11/26/2017 10:35 AM, John Isige wrote:
> I don't hear that, it reads fine for me. But with SAPI 5 Code Factory
> Eloquence, HTML headings can get pretty messed up, e.g. if heading one
> is Mary it will read as like "March stwan Mary", because it's
> interpreting the heading number as a date, I think. So you can get some
> odd stuff, depending on the synth you're using.
>
>
> On 11/26/2017 12:08, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Depends on the route you took to obtain that synthesizer (if it's the
>> one I'm thinking of).
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Brice Mijares
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:48 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos
>>
>> Do you recommend removing access 32? Also, I have speech rate set at
>> 90 and it's still slow. Thank you.
>>
>> On 11/26/2017 9:41 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm thinking Espeak NG won't have this problem for now. Most of the
>>> things you hear (well, for cases like the one outlined below) is
>>> controlled by speech synthesizers.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Brice Mijares
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:36 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos
>>>
>>> I think access 32 with one core voice David, I think. Thank you.
>>>
>>> On 11/26/2017 9:30 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> What synthesizer are you using?
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Joseph
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>>> Brice Mijares
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:10 AM
>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>> Subject: [nvda] what NVDA echos
>>>>
>>>> The next line ,
>>>> 1/2 cup flour
>>>> is echoed by NVDA as 1 slash 2 Cuban pesos flour. Does anyone else
>>>> using NVDA hear it that way? I am baffled.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
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Re: virtualizing the current window for further review?

John Isige
 

There is an addon, that gives you a hotkey.


https://addons.nvda-project.org/addons/virtualRevision.en.html

On 11/26/2017 14:24, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
I didn't' actually see it, but I thougth there was a keyboard hot key I could hit to do this, or am I thinking of a different screen reader.

Take care

On Nov 26, 2017, at 12:20 PM, John Isige <gwynn@tds.net> wrote:

There' an addon.


On 11/26/2017 14:19, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Is there a way of doing this? Can I hit a key stroke that will turn let's say an error window into a virtual buffer for which I can then copy to the clip board?

I thought there was a way to do this but I'm using the laptop layout.

Take care


Re: what NVDA echos

Dan Beaver
 

Hi Gene,


I too am seeing the same weirdness.  I am running NVDA 2017-3 and the MS One core voice David.  It is reading cup from his email as Cuban Pesos.  He had it spelled with lower case letters and still it says Cuban Pesos.


This is not the only weirdness i have experienced in several of the synthesizers.  This is also not the only word that it says in a strange way.  I tend to fix them by making speech dictionary changes to correct them.  I have tried to find the offending dictionary entries so I could just remove them but have not been able to find one in most cases.


Hope this helps.


Dan Beaver


On 11/26/2017 2:38 PM, Gene wrote:
If cup is the abbreviation for Cuban pesos, adding an s may cause it not to be recognized since it isn't the correct form.  Are you objecting to the slash or the Cuban Pesos?  How is your punctuation set?  You will have to set it to none not to hear the slash. 
 
Also, let's be sure nothing is being overlooked.  It is unlikely that the word cup would be read as Cuban pesos by any synthesizer or screen-reader.  If it were, then any time the word cup were found in text, it would be read as Cuban pesos as in "My Cuban pesos runneth over."  So check the recipe.  How, exactly is it written?  Is it written as cup or as cp?  Is it small letters or capitalized? 

Gene
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos

Well I removed decaccess32 and using the one core voice David and still
hearing 1 slash 2 cuban pesos flour. for the following line.
1/2 cup flour.
And if I add s to cup, it says it correctly.  Stilled baffled!

On 11/26/2017 10:35 AM, John Isige wrote:
> I don't hear that, it reads fine for me. But with SAPI 5 Code Factory
> Eloquence, HTML headings can get pretty messed up, e.g. if heading one
> is Mary it will read as like "March stwan Mary", because it's
> interpreting the heading number as a date, I think. So you can get some
> odd stuff, depending on the synth you're using.
>
>
> On 11/26/2017 12:08, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Depends on the route you took to obtain that synthesizer (if it's the
>> one I'm thinking of).
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Brice Mijares
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:48 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos
>>
>> Do you recommend removing access 32? Also, I have speech rate set at
>> 90 and it's still slow. Thank you.
>>
>> On 11/26/2017 9:41 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm thinking Espeak NG won't have this problem for now. Most of the
>>> things you hear (well, for cases like the one outlined below) is
>>> controlled by speech synthesizers.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Brice Mijares
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:36 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos
>>>
>>> I think access 32 with one core voice David, I think. Thank you.
>>>
>>> On 11/26/2017 9:30 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> What synthesizer are you using?
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Joseph
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>>> Brice Mijares
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:10 AM
>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>> Subject: [nvda] what NVDA echos
>>>>
>>>> The next line ,
>>>> 1/2 cup flour
>>>> is echoed by NVDA as 1 slash 2 Cuban pesos flour. Does anyone else
>>>> using NVDA hear it that way? I am baffled.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: what NVDA echos

John Isige
 

This is synth dependent. Under the one core voices I get Cuban Pesos too, but under Eloquence it reads just fine. Also under eSpeak NG, Rh Voice, Svox Pico, and Nuance Vocalizer. All of those read as cup the drinking vessel, not Cuban Pesos.

On 11/26/2017 13:07, Brice Mijares wrote:
Well I removed decaccess32 and using the one core voice David and still hearing 1 slash 2 cuban pesos flour. for the following line.
1/2 cup flour.
And if I add s to cup, it says it correctly. Stilled baffled!

On 11/26/2017 10:35 AM, John Isige wrote:
I don't hear that, it reads fine for me. But with SAPI 5 Code Factory Eloquence, HTML headings can get pretty messed up, e.g. if heading one is Mary it will read as like "March stwan Mary", because it's interpreting the heading number as a date, I think. So you can get some odd stuff, depending on the synth you're using.


On 11/26/2017 12:08, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Depends on the route you took to obtain that synthesizer (if it's the one I'm thinking of).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos

Do you recommend removing access 32? Also, I have speech rate set at 90 and it's still slow. Thank you.

On 11/26/2017 9:41 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
I'm thinking Espeak NG won't have this problem for now. Most of the things you hear (well, for cases like the one outlined below) is controlled by speech synthesizers.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos

I think access 32 with one core voice David, I think. Thank you.

On 11/26/2017 9:30 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
What synthesizer are you using?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what NVDA echos

The next line ,
1/2 cup flour
is echoed by NVDA as 1 slash 2 Cuban pesos flour. Does anyone else using NVDA hear it that way? I am baffled.


















Re: virtualizing the current window for further review?

Sarah k Alawami
 

I didn't' actually see it, but I thougth there was a keyboard hot key I could hit to do this, or am I thinking of a different screen reader.

Take care

On Nov 26, 2017, at 12:20 PM, John Isige <gwynn@tds.net> wrote:

There' an addon.


On 11/26/2017 14:19, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Is there a way of doing this? Can I hit a key stroke that will turn let's say an error window into a virtual buffer for which I can then copy to the clip board?

I thought there was a way to do this but I'm using the laptop layout.

Take care



Re: what NVDA echos

Brice Mijares
 

I just wrote the following line in notepad.
1/2 cup flour.
it read perfectly using window Eyes and Jaws, but NVDA says Cuban Peso for the word cup. You'd want the / mark to know it's .5cup No big deal knowing that It has something to do with NVDA since no other screen reader says Cuban Pesos. Thanks

On 11/26/2017 11:38 AM, Gene wrote:

If cup is the abbreviation for Cuban pesos, adding an s may cause it not to be recognized since it isn't the correct form.  Are you objecting to the slash or the Cuban Pesos? How is your punctuation set?  You will have to set it to none not to hear the slash.
Also, let's be sure nothing is being overlooked.  It is unlikely that the word cup would be read as Cuban pesos by any synthesizer or screen-reader.  If it were, then any time the word cup were found in text, it would be read as Cuban pesos as in "My Cuban pesos runneth over."  So check the recipe.  How, exactly is it written?  Is it written as cup or as cp?  Is it small letters or capitalized?
Gene
*From:* Brice Mijares <mailto:bricemijares@att.net>
*Sent:* Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:07 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos
Well I removed decaccess32 and using the one core voice David and still
hearing 1 slash 2 cuban pesos flour. for the following line.
1/2 cup flour.
And if I add s to cup, it says it correctly.  Stilled baffled!
On 11/26/2017 10:35 AM, John Isige wrote:
> I don't hear that, it reads fine for me. But with SAPI 5 Code Factory
> Eloquence, HTML headings can get pretty messed up, e.g. if heading one
> is Mary it will read as like "March stwan Mary", because it's
> interpreting the heading number as a date, I think. So you can get some
> odd stuff, depending on the synth you're using.
>
>
> On 11/26/2017 12:08, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Depends on the route you took to obtain that synthesizer (if it's the
>> one I'm thinking of).
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Brice Mijares
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:48 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos
>>
>> Do you recommend removing access 32? Also, I have speech rate set at
>> 90 and it's still slow. Thank you.
>>
>> On 11/26/2017 9:41 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm thinking Espeak NG won't have this problem for now. Most of the
>>> things you hear (well, for cases like the one outlined below) is
>>> controlled by speech synthesizers.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Brice Mijares
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:36 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos
>>>
>>> I think access 32 with one core voice David, I think. Thank you.
>>>
>>> On 11/26/2017 9:30 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> What synthesizer are you using?
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Joseph
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>>> Brice Mijares
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:10 AM
>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>> Subject: [nvda] what NVDA echos
>>>>
>>>> The next line ,
>>>> 1/2 cup flour
>>>> is echoed by NVDA as 1 slash 2 Cuban pesos flour. Does anyone else
>>>> using NVDA hear it that way? I am baffled.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


Re: virtualizing the current window for further review?

John Isige
 

There' an addon.

On 11/26/2017 14:19, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Is there a way of doing this? Can I hit a key stroke that will turn let's say an error window into a virtual buffer for which I can then copy to the clip board?

I thought there was a way to do this but I'm using the laptop layout.

Take care


virtualizing the current window for further review?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Is there a way of doing this? Can I hit a key stroke that will turn let's say an error window into a virtual buffer for which I can then copy to the clip board?

I thought there was a way to do this but I'm using the laptop layout.

Take care


Re: closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA

Gene
 

What does control w do?  If you have multiple windows opened in other programs, what does control f4 and control w do?
 
Gene

From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA

Wow! Maybe there is something wrong with my system.  I have tried this lots of times because of my habit from using Firefox.  But no matter how many tabs I have open it always closes all of them and terminates Chrome.


Oh well.


Dan Beaver


On 11/26/2017 2:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why control f4 closes the program when there are multiple tabs opened.  Here, it closes the tab I'm in and nothing else.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA

Actually, with multiple tabs open ctrl+f4 closes all tabs.  That is why I was trying to find out what would close just one tab.  It acts like alt+f4 and that surprised me.


Dan Beaver


On 11/26/2017 10:07 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:
CTRL-F4 does indeed work.  In fact ctrl-w used to do something else in chrome, so if it works now, it's a change.
Chris


On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Which is the same for Firefox i seem to recall.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adriani Botez" <adriani.botez@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA


Ctrl + w

Best
Adriani


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 25.11.2017 um 15:08 schrieb Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...>:

Hi,



How do I do this?  I can close the entire browser but not just a tab.  I don't see a way in the help either.



Thanks.



Dan Beaver








--
Christopher Bartlett



Re: what NVDA echos

Gene
 

If cup is the abbreviation for Cuban pesos, adding an s may cause it not to be recognized since it isn't the correct form.  Are you objecting to the slash or the Cuban Pesos?  How is your punctuation set?  You will have to set it to none not to hear the slash. 
 
Also, let's be sure nothing is being overlooked.  It is unlikely that the word cup would be read as Cuban pesos by any synthesizer or screen-reader.  If it were, then any time the word cup were found in text, it would be read as Cuban pesos as in "My Cuban pesos runneth over."  So check the recipe.  How, exactly is it written?  Is it written as cup or as cp?  Is it small letters or capitalized? 

Gene

Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos

Well I removed decaccess32 and using the one core voice David and still
hearing 1 slash 2 cuban pesos flour. for the following line.
1/2 cup flour.
And if I add s to cup, it says it correctly.  Stilled baffled!

On 11/26/2017 10:35 AM, John Isige wrote:
> I don't hear that, it reads fine for me. But with SAPI 5 Code Factory
> Eloquence, HTML headings can get pretty messed up, e.g. if heading one
> is Mary it will read as like "March stwan Mary", because it's
> interpreting the heading number as a date, I think. So you can get some
> odd stuff, depending on the synth you're using.
>
>
> On 11/26/2017 12:08, Joseph Lee wrote:
>> Hi,
>> Depends on the route you took to obtain that synthesizer (if it's the
>> one I'm thinking of).
>> Cheers,
>> Joseph
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>> Brice Mijares
>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:48 AM
>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>> Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos
>>
>> Do you recommend removing access 32? Also, I have speech rate set at
>> 90 and it's still slow. Thank you.
>>
>> On 11/26/2017 9:41 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> I'm thinking Espeak NG won't have this problem for now. Most of the
>>> things you hear (well, for cases like the one outlined below) is
>>> controlled by speech synthesizers.
>>> Cheers,
>>> Joseph
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>> Brice Mijares
>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:36 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos
>>>
>>> I think access 32 with one core voice David, I think. Thank you.
>>>
>>> On 11/26/2017 9:30 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> What synthesizer are you using?
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Joseph
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
>>>> Brice Mijares
>>>> Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:10 AM
>>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>> Subject: [nvda] what NVDA echos
>>>>
>>>> The next line ,
>>>> 1/2 cup flour
>>>> is echoed by NVDA as 1 slash 2 Cuban pesos flour. Does anyone else
>>>> using NVDA hear it that way? I am baffled.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: what NVDA echos

Brice Mijares
 

brilliant idea. , I'll give it a shot. Thank you.

On 11/26/2017 11:25 AM, Dan Beaver wrote:
If you open the NVDA preferences and then open the default speech dictionary you can fix this.
I did by specifying cup as the new entry.  Next I entered cuhp as the replacement string.
It now speaks it correctly.
Hope this helps.
Dan Beaver
On 11/26/2017 2:07 PM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Well I removed decaccess32 and using the one core voice David and still hearing 1 slash 2 cuban pesos flour. for the following line.
1/2 cup flour.
And if I add s to cup, it says it correctly.  Stilled baffled!

On 11/26/2017 10:35 AM, John Isige wrote:
I don't hear that, it reads fine for me. But with SAPI 5 Code Factory Eloquence, HTML headings can get pretty messed up, e.g. if heading one is Mary it will read as like "March stwan Mary", because it's interpreting the heading number as a date, I think. So you can get some odd stuff, depending on the synth you're using.


On 11/26/2017 12:08, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Depends on the route you took to obtain that synthesizer (if it's the one I'm thinking of).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos

Do you recommend removing access 32? Also, I have speech rate set at 90 and it's still slow. Thank you.

On 11/26/2017 9:41 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
I'm thinking Espeak NG won't have this problem for now. Most of the things you hear (well, for cases like the one outlined below) is controlled by speech synthesizers.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos

I think access 32 with one core voice David, I think. Thank you.

On 11/26/2017 9:30 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
What synthesizer are you using?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what NVDA echos

The next line ,
1/2 cup flour
is echoed by NVDA as 1 slash 2 Cuban pesos flour. Does anyone else using NVDA hear it that way? I am baffled.




















Re: what NVDA echos

Dan Beaver
 

If you open the NVDA preferences and then open the default speech dictionary you can fix this.


I did by specifying cup as the new entry.  Next I entered cuhp as the replacement string.


It now speaks it correctly.


Hope this helps.


Dan Beaver


On 11/26/2017 2:07 PM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Well I removed decaccess32 and using the one core voice David and still hearing 1 slash 2 cuban pesos flour. for the following line.
1/2 cup flour.
And if I add s to cup, it says it correctly.  Stilled baffled!

On 11/26/2017 10:35 AM, John Isige wrote:
I don't hear that, it reads fine for me. But with SAPI 5 Code Factory Eloquence, HTML headings can get pretty messed up, e.g. if heading one is Mary it will read as like "March stwan Mary", because it's interpreting the heading number as a date, I think. So you can get some odd stuff, depending on the synth you're using.


On 11/26/2017 12:08, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Depends on the route you took to obtain that synthesizer (if it's the one I'm thinking of).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos

Do you recommend removing access 32? Also, I have speech rate set at 90 and it's still slow. Thank you.

On 11/26/2017 9:41 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
I'm thinking Espeak NG won't have this problem for now. Most of the things you hear (well, for cases like the one outlined below) is controlled by speech synthesizers.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos

I think access 32 with one core voice David, I think. Thank you.

On 11/26/2017 9:30 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
What synthesizer are you using?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what NVDA echos

The next line ,
1/2 cup flour
is echoed by NVDA as 1 slash 2 Cuban pesos flour. Does anyone else using NVDA hear it that way? I am baffled.






























Re: closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA

Dan Beaver
 

Wow! Maybe there is something wrong with my system.  I have tried this lots of times because of my habit from using Firefox.  But no matter how many tabs I have open it always closes all of them and terminates Chrome.


Oh well.


Dan Beaver


On 11/26/2017 2:07 PM, Gene wrote:
I don't know why control f4 closes the program when there are multiple tabs opened.  Here, it closes the tab I'm in and nothing else.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA

Actually, with multiple tabs open ctrl+f4 closes all tabs.  That is why I was trying to find out what would close just one tab.  It acts like alt+f4 and that surprised me.


Dan Beaver


On 11/26/2017 10:07 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:
CTRL-F4 does indeed work.  In fact ctrl-w used to do something else in chrome, so if it works now, it's a change.
Chris


On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Which is the same for Firefox i seem to recall.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adriani Botez" <adriani.botez@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA


Ctrl + w

Best
Adriani


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 25.11.2017 um 15:08 schrieb Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...>:

Hi,



How do I do this?  I can close the entire browser but not just a tab.  I don't see a way in the help either.



Thanks.



Dan Beaver








--
Christopher Bartlett



Re: what NVDA echos

Brice Mijares
 

Well I removed decaccess32 and using the one core voice David and still hearing 1 slash 2 cuban pesos flour. for the following line.
1/2 cup flour.
And if I add s to cup, it says it correctly. Stilled baffled!

On 11/26/2017 10:35 AM, John Isige wrote:
I don't hear that, it reads fine for me. But with SAPI 5 Code Factory Eloquence, HTML headings can get pretty messed up, e.g. if heading one is Mary it will read as like "March stwan Mary", because it's interpreting the heading number as a date, I think. So you can get some odd stuff, depending on the synth you're using.
On 11/26/2017 12:08, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Depends on the route you took to obtain that synthesizer (if it's the one I'm thinking of).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:48 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos

Do you recommend removing access 32? Also, I have speech rate set at 90 and it's still slow. Thank you.

On 11/26/2017 9:41 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
I'm thinking Espeak NG won't have this problem for now. Most of the things you hear (well, for cases like the one outlined below) is controlled by speech synthesizers.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] what NVDA echos

I think access 32 with one core voice David, I think. Thank you.

On 11/26/2017 9:30 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
What synthesizer are you using?
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Brice Mijares
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 9:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] what NVDA echos

The next line ,
1/2 cup flour
is echoed by NVDA as 1 slash 2 Cuban pesos flour. Does anyone else using NVDA hear it that way? I am baffled.















Re: closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA

Gene
 

I don't know why control f4 closes the program when there are multiple tabs opened.  Here, it closes the tab I'm in and nothing else.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Sunday, November 26, 2017 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA

Actually, with multiple tabs open ctrl+f4 closes all tabs.  That is why I was trying to find out what would close just one tab.  It acts like alt+f4 and that surprised me.


Dan Beaver


On 11/26/2017 10:07 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:
CTRL-F4 does indeed work.  In fact ctrl-w used to do something else in chrome, so if it works now, it's a change.
Chris


On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Which is the same for Firefox i seem to recall.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adriani Botez" <adriani.botez@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA


Ctrl + w

Best
Adriani


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 25.11.2017 um 15:08 schrieb Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...>:

Hi,



How do I do this?  I can close the entire browser but not just a tab.  I don't see a way in the help either.



Thanks.



Dan Beaver








--
Christopher Bartlett


Re: closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA

Dan Beaver
 

Actually, with multiple tabs open ctrl+f4 closes all tabs.  That is why I was trying to find out what would close just one tab.  It acts like alt+f4 and that surprised me.


Dan Beaver


On 11/26/2017 10:07 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:
CTRL-F4 does indeed work.  In fact ctrl-w used to do something else in chrome, so if it works now, it's a change.
Chris


On Sat, Nov 25, 2017 at 3:40 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Which is the same for Firefox i seem to recall.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Adriani Botez" <adriani.botez@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 25, 2017 2:14 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] closing tabs under Chrome with NVDA


Ctrl + w

Best
Adriani


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 25.11.2017 um 15:08 schrieb Dan Beaver <dbeaver888@...>:

Hi,



How do I do this?  I can close the entire browser but not just a tab.  I don't see a way in the help either.



Thanks.



Dan Beaver








--
Christopher Bartlett