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Re: Question about using quick books with NVDA

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I don't know but our charity is now using this software and the chair is visually impaired.
So if anyone can tell us a good route to go, then please do so. I'm sure I saw talk on this on the add ons site some months back but it was not an issue then.
Brian

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From: "chris judge" <chrisjudge1967@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 10:11 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about using quick books with NVDA


Good morning everyone.



I have a client who has just lost most of her vision. She worked as an
accountant and used a program called quick books. In my experience we have
had terrible success with screen readers and accounting software in the
past. Does anyone know if this has changed. Can NVDA be made to work with
quick books? If not, is there any accounting software that will work with
NVdA, or any other screen reader? Thanks for any help you can give.


Re: Firefox 57 from an NVDA user's perspective - Marco's Accessibility Blog

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So how come whe I downloaded it and installed it it just said unknown. the checkboxes had not been touched at all?
I think this is the main problem. some get it to work while others say only its menus do not also of course the show stopper for me is add ons as well.
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From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 10:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 57 from an NVDA user's perspective - Marco's Accessibility Blog


Hi!
I just upgraded to beta 14 of Firefox 57 to get a first-hand impression of
the slowness, or performance issue, that seems to be plaguing early
adopters. While I agree that it seems to be slower where page loading and
general responsiveness are concerned, I also find that stability and
reliability are great, including complex web pages. It takes some getting
used to but isn't altogether an unpleasant experience as it is quite
deterministic.
Greetings,
Felix

Michel Such <michel.such@free.fr> schrieb am Di., 7. Nov. 2017 um 16:43 Uhr:

Very interesting article:

https://www.marcozehe.de/2017/11/07/firefox-57-nvda-users-perspective/


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Re: Firefox 57 from an NVDA user's perspective - Marco's Accessibility Blog

Andy
 


What does "deterministic" mean?
 
Andy
 

----- Original Message -----
From: Felix G.
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 2:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox 57 from an NVDA user's perspective - Marco's Accessibility Blog

Hi!
I just upgraded to beta 14 of Firefox 57 to get a first-hand impression of the slowness, or performance issue, that seems to be plaguing early adopters. While I agree that it seems to be slower where page loading and general responsiveness are concerned, I also find that stability and reliability are great, including complex web pages. It takes some getting used to but isn't altogether an unpleasant experience as it is quite deterministic.
Greetings,
Felix

Michel Such <michel.such@...> schrieb am Di., 7. Nov. 2017 um 16:43 Uhr:
Very interesting article:

https://www.marcozehe.de/2017/11/07/firefox-57-nvda-users-perspective/


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Re: Question about using quick books with NVDA

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Hi, I my self am curious as to weather NVDA can be made to work with Quickbooks pro 2015, in the main screens such as create invoice screen, and the menues of quickbooks.
If it can, and if any one with some technical know how can assist, I'd be happy  to try it out. since we also are running quickbooks here, and I'm prevented from using it, due to the screen reader not working with it. There was a JFW project if memory serves, but I am not sure if NVDA also had one.
 



Re: Apology for NVDA and File Explorer advice

David Griffith
 

There are definitely some things that Exporer ++  can do that ~File Explorer cannot.

For example

You can save a directory listing of files.

You can copy a folder or file path to the clipboard.

You can copy a column of file information to the clipboard.

You can split files.

You can merge files.

You can “destroy” files to delete at least to,some extent securely.

You can set up bookmarks for tabs of windows in file explorer meaning you can navigate to frequently accessed folders easily.

If you set it up in prefernces you can set the program so it treats any zip file as a normal windows folder making it unnecessary  most of the time to unzip files. You just browse them in the way you would any other folder in Windows.

You can do all of these things in Windows Explorer but normally you need third party utilities to do these things.  Explorer ++  does these all natively and of course the main benefit is that it is freeware.

There are probably other things that it can do which others will know about. I thinkg given it is free it is a useful tool to have anyway.

 

David Griffith

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From: Mary Otten
Sent: 08 November 2017 15:16
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Apology for NVDA and File Explorer advice

 

 Hi David,
Thank you for making that clarification. Now I am curious whether there are features in that other program that you recommended that you think make it a good adjunct to file explorer, things you can’t do at all with FileExplorer, or can  do more efficiently with that other program.
Mary

 

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On Nov 8, 2017, at 7:13 AM, David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> wrote:

Recently I stated that NVDA was sluggish for me with File Explorer on large drives. However I noticed when going through File Explorer settings for something else that somehow the Preview Pane option had been turned on. I don’t know how this happened as I normally always turn it off. Anyway since making this change NVDA has sped up to a perfectly acceptable level on File Explorer so I thought I should make this clarification.

David Griffith

 

 

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Re: Apology for NVDA and File Explorer advice

Mary Otten <motten53@...>
 

 Hi David,
Thank you for making that clarification. Now I am curious whether there are features in that other program that you recommended that you think make it a good adjunct to file explorer, things you can’t do at all with FileExplorer, or can  do more efficiently with that other program.
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 8, 2017, at 7:13 AM, David Griffith <daj.griffith@...> wrote:

Recently I stated that NVDA was sluggish for me with File Explorer on large drives. However I noticed when going through File Explorer settings for something else that somehow the Preview Pane option had been turned on. I don’t know how this happened as I normally always turn it off. Anyway since making this change NVDA has sped up to a perfectly acceptable level on File Explorer so I thought I should make this clarification.

David Griffith

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 


Apology for NVDA and File Explorer advice

David Griffith
 

Recently I stated that NVDA was sluggish for me with File Explorer on large drives. However I noticed when going through File Explorer settings for something else that somehow the Preview Pane option had been turned on. I don’t know how this happened as I normally always turn it off. Anyway since making this change NVDA has sped up to a perfectly acceptable level on File Explorer so I thought I should make this clarification.

David Griffith

 

 

My Blind Access and Guide dog Blog
http://dgriffithblog.wordpress.com/
My Blind hammer Blog
https://www.westhamtillidie.com/authors/blind-hammer/posts

 


Re: NVDA and Win10 App Essentials.

 

Hi,

When encountering errors like this, press NVDA+F1 to open Log Viewer, look for the last error text, and copy and paste the traceback.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: Wednesday, November 8, 2017 3:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Win10 App Essentials.

 

Hi Joseph,

Please, how does one get a log? 

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 11:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Win10 App Essentials.

 

Hi,

I need a log please.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 5:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Win10 App Essentials.

 

Hi Quentin,

First I would like to thank you for the kind and gentle manner you answer questions on this list.  Second, (issue previously reported) each time I update the Win10 App Essentials, my synthesizer defaults to the MSFT Sound Mapper and I am left without speech.  It is annoying but fixable.  However, I am helping a newly blind person and It is happening on her computer and the experience is more frustrating.  It usually happens after a reboot.  I would appreciate someone looks into the issue.

Very much appreciated

Blessings

Pascal  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 7:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on sapi 5 problem

 

Anna should be able to be used by other programs, but if your talk clip program is loading anna and preventing it from being used by NVDA as well.  If Narrator is able to use Anna where NVDA isn't, maybe it's found a way of accessing it that we aren't using.

 

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Tony James <megatronjames@...> wrote:

Hi, I typically use the sapi4 mike voice.  I was actually asking because another program uses the sapi5 anna voice to generate talk clips for my clip zip, oh me recently and hasn’t been able to access the anna voice even though narrator uses her fine.  Is it possible that some setting is blocking this voice from being used by any other programs?

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 7:28:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on sapi 5 problem

 

Hi Tony,

 

Do you have sluggishness using NVDA with the default eSpeak NG voice?  NVDA should be able to use most SAPI 5 voices.  Microsoft Anna is a voice that Microsoft included with Windows 7 and should definitely work.  If you have commercial software installed which comes with other SAPI 5 voices, it's possible NVDA may see those but the voice might give an error when you try to use it.  I've encountered this with programs such as Zoomtext and Talking Typer.  The issue with those is they install the voices as standard SAPI 5 voices, but then restrict them so that they won't work if being used by a program other than the one they came with.

 

Otherwise, do you have any other programs running which may want to use the SAPI 5 synthesizer?  NVDA can run into problems if another program is trying to use the same synthesizer at the same time (if they are both running, even if both are not trying to speak at once).  The workaround is to set one program to use a different synthesizer.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Tony James <megatronjames@...> wrote:

Hi, a while ago I posted about not being able to use SPAI5 with nvda.  last week I had to launch narrator because nvda was being sluggish and narrator started without a single problem.  I ran it again a few minutes ago without a single hitch.  narrator is set to use anna, but i can't seem to use this voice with any other programs.  does anyone no whats going on?



 

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Re: NVDA and Win10 App Essentials.

Pascal Lambert
 

Hi Joseph,

Please, how does one get a log? 

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 11:02 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Win10 App Essentials.

 

Hi,

I need a log please.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 5:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Win10 App Essentials.

 

Hi Quentin,

First I would like to thank you for the kind and gentle manner you answer questions on this list.  Second, (issue previously reported) each time I update the Win10 App Essentials, my synthesizer defaults to the MSFT Sound Mapper and I am left without speech.  It is annoying but fixable.  However, I am helping a newly blind person and It is happening on her computer and the experience is more frustrating.  It usually happens after a reboot.  I would appreciate someone looks into the issue.

Very much appreciated

Blessings

Pascal  

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 7:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on sapi 5 problem

 

Anna should be able to be used by other programs, but if your talk clip program is loading anna and preventing it from being used by NVDA as well.  If Narrator is able to use Anna where NVDA isn't, maybe it's found a way of accessing it that we aren't using.

 

On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Tony James <megatronjames@...> wrote:

Hi, I typically use the sapi4 mike voice.  I was actually asking because another program uses the sapi5 anna voice to generate talk clips for my clip zip, oh me recently and hasn’t been able to access the anna voice even though narrator uses her fine.  Is it possible that some setting is blocking this voice from being used by any other programs?

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 7:28:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on sapi 5 problem

 

Hi Tony,

 

Do you have sluggishness using NVDA with the default eSpeak NG voice?  NVDA should be able to use most SAPI 5 voices.  Microsoft Anna is a voice that Microsoft included with Windows 7 and should definitely work.  If you have commercial software installed which comes with other SAPI 5 voices, it's possible NVDA may see those but the voice might give an error when you try to use it.  I've encountered this with programs such as Zoomtext and Talking Typer.  The issue with those is they install the voices as standard SAPI 5 voices, but then restrict them so that they won't work if being used by a program other than the one they came with.

 

Otherwise, do you have any other programs running which may want to use the SAPI 5 synthesizer?  NVDA can run into problems if another program is trying to use the same synthesizer at the same time (if they are both running, even if both are not trying to speak at once).  The workaround is to set one program to use a different synthesizer.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Tony James <megatronjames@...> wrote:

Hi, a while ago I posted about not being able to use SPAI5 with nvda.  last week I had to launch narrator because nvda was being sluggish and narrator started without a single problem.  I ran it again a few minutes ago without a single hitch.  narrator is set to use anna, but i can't seem to use this voice with any other programs.  does anyone no whats going on?



 

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Training and Support Manager

 

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

 

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 



 

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Re: NVDA and Win10 App Essentials.

Pascal Lambert
 

Thanks Brian. I guess, just have to put up with it!
Blessings
Pascal

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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Win10 App Essentials.

I've had this happen on a usb sound card going back to internal and this I think is a windows problem not an nvda one, as even the input moves as well as the output.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 1:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Win10 App Essentials.


Hi Quentin,

First I would like to thank you for the kind and gentle manner you answer
questions on this list. Second, (issue previously reported) each time I
update the Win10 App Essentials, my synthesizer defaults to the MSFT Sound
Mapper and I am left without speech. It is annoying but fixable. However,
I am helping a newly blind person and It is happening on her computer and
the experience is more frustrating. It usually happens after a reboot. I
would appreciate someone looks into the issue.

Very much appreciated

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 7:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on sapi 5 problem



Anna should be able to be used by other programs, but if your talk clip
program is loading anna and preventing it from being used by NVDA as well.
If Narrator is able to use Anna where NVDA isn't, maybe it's found a way of
accessing it that we aren't using.



On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Tony James <megatronjames@gmail.com
<mailto:megatronjames@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, I typically use the sapi4 mike voice. I was actually asking because
another program uses the sapi5 anna voice to generate talk clips for my clip
zip, oh me recently and hasn’t been able to access the anna voice even
though narrator uses her fine. Is it possible that some setting is blocking
this voice from being used by any other programs?



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io
<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > on behalf of Quentin Christensen
<quentin@nvaccess.org <mailto:quentin@nvaccess.org> >
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 7:28:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on sapi 5 problem



Hi Tony,



Do you have sluggishness using NVDA with the default eSpeak NG voice? NVDA
should be able to use most SAPI 5 voices. Microsoft Anna is a voice that
Microsoft included with Windows 7 and should definitely work. If you have
commercial software installed which comes with other SAPI 5 voices, it's
possible NVDA may see those but the voice might give an error when you try
to use it. I've encountered this with programs such as Zoomtext and Talking
Typer. The issue with those is they install the voices as standard SAPI 5
voices, but then restrict them so that they won't work if being used by a
program other than the one they came with.



Otherwise, do you have any other programs running which may want to use the
SAPI 5 synthesizer? NVDA can run into problems if another program is trying
to use the same synthesizer at the same time (if they are both running, even
if both are not trying to speak at once). The workaround is to set one
program to use a different synthesizer.



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Tony James <megatronjames@gmail.com
<mailto:megatronjames@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, a while ago I posted about not being able to use SPAI5 with nvda. last
week I had to launch narrator because nvda was being sluggish and narrator
started without a single problem. I ran it again a few minutes ago without
a single hitch. narrator is set to use anna, but i can't seem to use this
voice with any other programs. does anyone no whats going on?











--

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Training and Support Manager



Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
<http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



<http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org

Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess







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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
<http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/> http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/



<http://www.nvaccess.org/> www.nvaccess.org

Facebook: <http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess>
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Re: Question about using quick books with NVDA

Richard Kuzma
 

Good morning,

I have used quickbooks as a sighted person,

But since lost my sight five years ago I have not tried it.

I do know they had an accessibility project a while back to make it accessible.

Not sure it was with jaws or nvda. You may want to give them a call as I remember it not being the latest and greatest version.

Let me know if you find anything out and if I am incorrect or not, and it I come across anything else will let you know.

Thanks

Rich

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of chris judge
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 5:11 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Question about using quick books with NVDA

 

Good morning everyone.

 

I have a client who has just lost most of her vision. She worked as an accountant and used a program called quick books. In my experience we have had terrible success with screen readers and accounting software in the past. Does anyone know if this has changed. Can NVDA be made to work with quick books? If not, is there any accounting software that will work with NVdA, or any other screen reader? Thanks for any help you can give.


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Question about using quick books with NVDA

chris judge
 

Good morning everyone.

 

I have a client who has just lost most of her vision. She worked as an accountant and used a program called quick books. In my experience we have had terrible success with screen readers and accounting software in the past. Does anyone know if this has changed. Can NVDA be made to work with quick books? If not, is there any accounting software that will work with NVdA, or any other screen reader? Thanks for any help you can give.


Re: Firefox 57 from an NVDA user's perspective - Marco's Accessibility Blog

Felix G.
 

Hi!
I just upgraded to beta 14 of Firefox 57 to get a first-hand impression of the slowness, or performance issue, that seems to be plaguing early adopters. While I agree that it seems to be slower where page loading and general responsiveness are concerned, I also find that stability and reliability are great, including complex web pages. It takes some getting used to but isn't altogether an unpleasant experience as it is quite deterministic.
Greetings,
Felix

Michel Such <michel.such@...> schrieb am Di., 7. Nov. 2017 um 16:43 Uhr:


Re: discord app query

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Unfortunate choice of name in our case then.
unconscious humour no doubt.
Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 1:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] discord app query


I'm also interested to know if anyone has had any luck with this. The
cursory look I took has shown a very unusable interface, but if there are
tricks to making it work, I'd love to do so as there's a class I'm
attending weekly that uses Discord as one of its distribution methods.
Chris
On Tue, Nov 7, 2017 at 10:00 AM, Joseph Weakland <josephweakland@att.net>
wrote:

does anyone know if the discord desktop program is nvda usable?

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Re: NVDA and Win10 App Essentials.

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I've had this happen on a usb sound card going back to internal and this I think is a windows problem not an nvda one, as even the input moves as well as the output.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Pascal Lambert" <rambeau68@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 1:17 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and Win10 App Essentials.


Hi Quentin,

First I would like to thank you for the kind and gentle manner you answer questions on this list. Second, (issue previously reported) each time I update the Win10 App Essentials, my synthesizer defaults to the MSFT Sound Mapper and I am left without speech. It is annoying but fixable. However, I am helping a newly blind person and It is happening on her computer and the experience is more frustrating. It usually happens after a reboot. I would appreciate someone looks into the issue.

Very much appreciated

Blessings

Pascal



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 7:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on sapi 5 problem



Anna should be able to be used by other programs, but if your talk clip program is loading anna and preventing it from being used by NVDA as well. If Narrator is able to use Anna where NVDA isn't, maybe it's found a way of accessing it that we aren't using.



On Wed, Nov 8, 2017 at 11:34 AM, Tony James <megatronjames@gmail.com <mailto:megatronjames@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, I typically use the sapi4 mike voice. I was actually asking because another program uses the sapi5 anna voice to generate talk clips for my clip zip, oh me recently and hasn’t been able to access the anna voice even though narrator uses her fine. Is it possible that some setting is blocking this voice from being used by any other programs?



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> > on behalf of Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org <mailto:quentin@nvaccess.org> >
Sent: Tuesday, November 7, 2017 7:28:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on sapi 5 problem



Hi Tony,



Do you have sluggishness using NVDA with the default eSpeak NG voice? NVDA should be able to use most SAPI 5 voices. Microsoft Anna is a voice that Microsoft included with Windows 7 and should definitely work. If you have commercial software installed which comes with other SAPI 5 voices, it's possible NVDA may see those but the voice might give an error when you try to use it. I've encountered this with programs such as Zoomtext and Talking Typer. The issue with those is they install the voices as standard SAPI 5 voices, but then restrict them so that they won't work if being used by a program other than the one they came with.



Otherwise, do you have any other programs running which may want to use the SAPI 5 synthesizer? NVDA can run into problems if another program is trying to use the same synthesizer at the same time (if they are both running, even if both are not trying to speak at once). The workaround is to set one program to use a different synthesizer.



Kind regards



Quentin.



On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Tony James <megatronjames@gmail.com <mailto:megatronjames@gmail.com> > wrote:

Hi, a while ago I posted about not being able to use SPAI5 with nvda. last week I had to launch narrator because nvda was being sluggish and narrator started without a single problem. I ran it again a few minutes ago without a single hitch. narrator is set to use anna, but i can't seem to use this voice with any other programs. does anyone no whats going on?











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Re: Problem with my screen

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Tis should not happen though as the active window should always be the top one surely?
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It's possible too that your active window was hidden behind another
window. Since you had word open with a blank document, it's likely they
were seeing that window, and the notepad window you had open working was
hidden behind one or more other windows. This happens to me all the time
when I ask for sighted help, the first thing the sighted help needs to
do is move all the windows around until they find the window I'm working
in. It's likely you experienced something similar.


On 11/7/2017 7:43 PM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
It could be you have some windows (like WordPad maybe?) set quite
small. NVDA can still work with it, but visually your sighted
colleague might only be able to see the ribbon etc. If you press
WINDOWS+UP ARROW it should maximise the current window to take up the
full screen.

If you often work with a sighted colleague and would like them to be
able to better tell where NVDA is working with the focus, you could
install the "Focus highlight" add-on which draws a coloured box around
the object which currently has focus. It doesn't change how NVDA
works but can make it easier for sighted users sitting next to you.

You can install that by pressing NVDA+n to open the NVDA menu, then T
for tools then go down to "Add-on manager" and get add-ons.

Kind regards

Quentin.

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If you get a sighted person to disable nvda or turn it off does
the screen then work. I guess what I'm saying is, is this a driver
issue or an nvda issue. I have noted that for example the place
you are reading in a web page is often not on screen as nvda is
working from its own buffer, but not whole programs being hidden.
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I use Windows 7, 32 bit with NVDA 2017.1

The situation always happens when I open many things at the same
time and go to each of them using Alt + Tab. When I back to
WordPad, nothing appear on my screen, but everything works well
with screen reader.







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Re: Problem with my screen

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Yes I would say though that Focus highlight can get it wrong according to a sighted friend and is affected by screen res settings. It also seems to slow down nvda shutdown under unknown circumstances, but its erratic.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with my screen


It could be you have some windows (like WordPad maybe?) set quite small.
NVDA can still work with it, but visually your sighted colleague might only
be able to see the ribbon etc. If you press WINDOWS+UP ARROW it should
maximise the current window to take up the full screen.

If you often work with a sighted colleague and would like them to be able
to better tell where NVDA is working with the focus, you could install the
"Focus highlight" add-on which draws a coloured box around the object which
currently has focus. It doesn't change how NVDA works but can make it
easier for sighted users sitting next to you.

You can install that by pressing NVDA+n to open the NVDA menu, then T for
tools then go down to "Add-on manager" and get add-ons.

Kind regards

Quentin.

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If you get a sighted person to disable nvda or turn it off does the
screen then work. I guess what I'm saying is, is this a driver issue or an
nvda issue. I have noted that for example the place you are reading in a
web page is often not on screen as nvda is working from its own buffer, but
not whole programs being hidden.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Problem with my screen


I use Windows 7, 32 bit with NVDA 2017.1

The situation always happens when I open many things at the same time and
go to each of them using Alt + Tab. When I back to WordPad, nothing appear
on my screen, but everything works well with screen reader.





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Re: Does anymone have experience with editing google docs on the web with NVDA?

Sylvie Duchateau
 

Hi Michal and all,

Thank you for all your tips.

I don't want to use google docs with Jaws as I use Jaws as a demo and only when I have to, as NVDA is my favourite screen reader.

I did not know the shortcuts you mentionned, they are not listed in google's short cuts I looked at. I will try them.

For your information, google docs works fine when you activate screen reader support with ctrl+alt+Z and braille support.

I also tried it with chrome and it works good with NVDA.

Thanks again, I will try all this.

Best

Sylvie

Le 07/11/2017 à 17:51, Michal Rada a écrit :
And, sure, there are answers to your questions:


1) - try combinations ALT+SHIFT+A, then H, then N - it works. It calls command separratelly by menu levels (Accessibility menu, then Headings, then Next).


2) Try ALT+ENTER - it works for me. But as I say before, try to use headings list by ALT+SHIFT+T, then O. This displays tree with navigation, you can move by arrows up and down and ENTER to jump to heading in document.


Helps?



Dne 7.11.2017 v 17:34 Michal Rada napsal(a):
Hi,

Yes, i working with google office in my office :-D

Documents, Slides and Sheets are fully accessible with Jaws, you must enable accessibility support by keystroke ALT+CTRL+Z, but, it works only in Mozilla Firefox. Other browsers does not work properly.

There are some tips for using documents.

* Moving classical by arrow keys, but CTRL+arrows works too.

* There are many keyboard shortcuts for navigation and using these apps, look here https://support.google.com/docs/answer/179738?co=GENIE.Platform%3DDesktop&hl=en

* There are basic tips and guides - look here https://support.google.com/docs/answer/1632201?hl=en

* Verry usefull tip is moving by headings - it works with keystrokes ALT+SHIFT+T and O

* Menus are accessible with ALT+SHIFT+letter - for example ALT+SHIFT+F for File menu, etc.

* And, if yoy focussed menu, try TAB and SHIFT+TAB to move to other important controls, tool bars, quick document bar, etc.


Try it, with Firefox its great.

Michal



Dne 7.11.2017 v 12:08 Sylvie Duchateau napsal(a):
Hello all,
I am actually working with somebody on a good structured google doc.
The short cuts list says that you can reach the next heading by pressing ctrl+alt, then n then h.
This is conflicting with the shortcut for starting NVDA.
Going on browse mode and hitting h just goes to the next heading but not to the following.
Do you have any hints on this?
Second, if a document contains a table of content, is there a way to jump to one specific section? Activating a link to this section does not work for me.
thank you for your help.
Best
Sylvie






Re: update on sapi 5 problem

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I have notices issues on Sapi 4 though mainly in the way it handles editing of characters in some fields, seeming to need two characters to be typed then saying both at times. I put this down to the elderly code used.
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Hi, I typically use the sapi4 mike voice. I was actually asking because another program uses the sapi5 anna voice to generate talk clips for my clip zip, oh me recently and hasn't been able to access the anna voice even though narrator uses her fine. Is it possible that some setting is blocking this voice from being used by any other programs?

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Subject: Re: [nvda] update on sapi 5 problem

Hi Tony,

Do you have sluggishness using NVDA with the default eSpeak NG voice? NVDA should be able to use most SAPI 5 voices. Microsoft Anna is a voice that Microsoft included with Windows 7 and should definitely work. If you have commercial software installed which comes with other SAPI 5 voices, it's possible NVDA may see those but the voice might give an error when you try to use it. I've encountered this with programs such as Zoomtext and Talking Typer. The issue with those is they install the voices as standard SAPI 5 voices, but then restrict them so that they won't work if being used by a program other than the one they came with.

Otherwise, do you have any other programs running which may want to use the SAPI 5 synthesizer? NVDA can run into problems if another program is trying to use the same synthesizer at the same time (if they are both running, even if both are not trying to speak at once). The workaround is to set one program to use a different synthesizer.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Tony James <megatronjames@gmail.com<mailto:megatronjames@gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi, a while ago I posted about not being able to use SPAI5 with nvda. last week I had to launch narrator because nvda was being sluggish and narrator started without a single problem. I ran it again a few minutes ago without a single hitch. narrator is set to use anna, but i can't seem to use this voice with any other programs. does anyone no whats going on?







--
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Training and Support Manager

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Re: update on sapi 5 problem

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AS you have seen the only true error in sappi five has been that benign language change warning on some voices, one assumes cos for example Serena English is just English. However the inability of it to use Emily, seems to be to do with Emily being 16 bit while the others are 32 bit. I also experience clipping off at the end of Anna when used, as if they have not allowed enough time for her to finish saying the word.
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Sent: Wednesday, November 08, 2017 12:28 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] update on sapi 5 problem


Hi Tony,

Do you have sluggishness using NVDA with the default eSpeak NG voice? NVDA
should be able to use most SAPI 5 voices. Microsoft Anna is a voice that
Microsoft included with Windows 7 and should definitely work. If you have
commercial software installed which comes with other SAPI 5 voices, it's
possible NVDA may see those but the voice might give an error when you try
to use it. I've encountered this with programs such as Zoomtext and
Talking Typer. The issue with those is they install the voices as standard
SAPI 5 voices, but then restrict them so that they won't work if being used
by a program other than the one they came with.

Otherwise, do you have any other programs running which may want to use the
SAPI 5 synthesizer? NVDA can run into problems if another program is
trying to use the same synthesizer at the same time (if they are both
running, even if both are not trying to speak at once). The workaround is
to set one program to use a different synthesizer.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 5:57 AM, Tony James <megatronjames@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi, a while ago I posted about not being able to use SPAI5 with nvda.
last week I had to launch narrator because nvda was being sluggish and
narrator started without a single problem. I ran it again a few minutes
ago without a single hitch. narrator is set to use anna, but i can't seem
to use this voice with any other programs. does anyone no whats going on?





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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager

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http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

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