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profile triggers and what to do if NVDA does not automatically switch to previous profile (observed in alpha 19691 ...)

J.G
 

Hello,

before I'm going open a ticket I would like to ask community in case I have missed something about profiles.

Some years ago I created profiles for applications and say all, which has been brought to NVDA 2019.3.1. And now everytime, when I stop a "say all", NVDA does not switch to previous profile for instance basic profile or app profile. In previous versions like 2019.2.1 it worked fine. It also have worked for some alphas ago. I cannot exactly determine, when it has stopped work. So what can I do to resolve a problem or is it a bug?

I use portable copy of alpha now on version 19691... on windows 10 1909.

thx for your responses.

regards, Jožef

Re: web page objects that require the use of the mouse

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi Dan


With the golden cursor add on you can control the mouse with the arrow keys and do a few extras.


Gene nz


On 18/02/2020 5:38 am, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hi all,


I am trying to get some info from a field on the page but it says to use the mouse to view. I have looked at the object navigation methods after the suggestion on another list but I still can't figure this one out.


If there are any hams on this list who use the qrz.com site and know how to get the email address of someone on qrz.com using NVDA I sure would appreciate some help.


Thanks.

-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

Re: MP3 Direct Cut Chattering too Much with NVDA Add-On

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Maybe under object navigation menu then back ground Report background progress bars.


or maybe also with shortcut nvda and U toogle to off.



Gene nz

On 18/02/2020 6:29 am, Rich DeSteno wrote:
I just changed computers to Windows 10 and installed MP3 Direct Cut version 2.28 with the NVDDA add-on 19.12 from the NVDA add-on page.  Unlike my previous setup, this add-on chatters constantly with updates of the time elapsed as the MP3 plays.  It sounds like it announces the time every second, which of course, is way too often.  How do I silence this aspect of the add-on?

Re: NVDA/Jaws

Cecelia Rodriguez <cessbraille@...>
 

You can use NVDA remote you know.


On Feb 17, 2020, at 11:55 AM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:


If I have to switch to Jaws to tandem someone when I return to NVDA it feels very sluggish and I have to reboot my pc for it to be normal again. has anyone else had this experience?
******
Something to think about, Since God has forgiven it, who are you to keep picking it back up!

Re: Editing of Windows onecore voices

John Isige
 

Also, assuming she's talking about the flight simulator thingy, it's
simviation, with an 's', not a 'c'. OneCore pronounces the version
starting with an 's' correctly. It does indeed pronounce the version
with a 'c' pretty strangely, I'm honestly curious what processing makes
it do that because it makes no sense. But it's probably due to a
misspelling anyway, and if it's not, yes, dictionaries. NVDA even uses
synthesizer-specific ones for exactly this sort of situation.

On 2/17/2020 11:28, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 11:48 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

cimviation

I can't find that word in any dictionary, but that's beside the point,
as there's lots of jargon that doesn't appear in many general purpose
dictionaries.

I can't think of a single synthesizer that pronounces everything
correctly.  And that's but one of the reasons for the dictionary
feature of most screen readers where you can substitute some phonetic
spelling that, somehow, the synthesizer does produce correctly that's
unrelated to the actual spelling of a given word.  I've had to do
trial and error until I found a letter pattern that gave me the actual
pronunciation I wanted for a low frequency word.

--

Brian *-*Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363

*Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.*

       ~ Madonna

NVDA Add-ons for Foobar2000/FreeCommander XE?

Carlos
 

Hello All:

    Is anyone on this list aware of add-ons for Foobar2000, and FreeCommanderXE?

    Apologies to the moderators for posting this question here. However! When I asked this question on the chat list a few months ago I received no response!

    Thank You! In advance for all your responses and help!


👍


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Carlos - Windows 10 Home, 64 Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363 - NVDA Version 2019.3

Add-on Updater 20.02.2 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Add-on Updater 20.02.2 is now available. Hopefully this release will be the last time you’ll get to see add-on compatibility notice after installing it.

 

Also, this is both a stable and an experimental release: if you are using recent NVDA alpha snapshots (not many of you should), you’ll find that add-on updates cannot be installed if using Add-on Updater. Add-on Updater 20.02.2 will disable compatibility range check so any add-on update can be installed. If this experiment is successful, it’ll show up to everyone in March.

 

IMPORTANT: version 20.02.2 might be the last version to support NVDA 2019.2; version 20.03 will require 2019.3 or later.

 

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: MP3 Direct Cut Chattering too Much with NVDA Add-On

 

That should have been, "Looked at its configuration in the NVDA settings panel," which is where they appear to have been subsumed since NVDA 2018.2
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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

Re: MP3 Direct Cut Chattering too Much with NVDA Add-On

 

Have you looked in the Help (NVDA+H) for the Add-On or its settings & configuration panel?

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Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

MP3 Direct Cut Chattering too Much with NVDA Add-On

Rich DeSteno
 

I just changed computers to Windows 10 and installed MP3 Direct Cut version 2.28 with the NVDDA add-on 19.12 from the NVDA add-on page.  Unlike my previous setup, this add-on chatters constantly with updates of the time elapsed as the MP3 plays.  It sounds like it announces the time every second, which of course, is way too often.  How do I silence this aspect of the add-on?

--
Rich De Steno

Re: Editing of Windows onecore voices

 

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 11:48 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
cimviation
I can't find that word in any dictionary, but that's beside the point, as there's lots of jargon that doesn't appear in many general purpose dictionaries.

I can't think of a single synthesizer that pronounces everything correctly.  And that's but one of the reasons for the dictionary feature of most screen readers where you can substitute some phonetic spelling that, somehow, the synthesizer does produce correctly that's unrelated to the actual spelling of a given word.  I've had to do trial and error until I found a letter pattern that gave me the actual pronunciation I wanted for a low frequency word.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  

Power is being told you're not loved and not being destroyed by it.

       ~ Madonna

 

 

Re: Libra Office Calc

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Chris,

 

The address to subscribe to the chat group is chat+subscribe@nvda.groups.io.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Monday, February 17, 2020 5:02 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Libra Office Calc

 

 

Hi

Is there anyone using Libra Office Calc that could explain how to format numeric columns such that a fixed number of decimal places is displayed without truncating trailing zeroes?  For example I want to display 123.40 not 123.4.

 

I appreciate this message belongs on the chat list, so could some kind person please furnish me with the NVDA Chat list email address and details of how to subscribe?

 

Cheers

Chris

NVDA/Jaws

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

If I have to switch to Jaws to tandem someone when I return to NVDA it feels very sluggish and I have to reboot my pc for it to be normal again. has anyone else had this experience?
******
Something to think about, Since God has forgiven it, who are you to keep picking it back up!

Re: Editing of Windows onecore voices

Sarah k Alawami
 

I'm actually thinking of submittin gfeedback as one core cannot prounce cimviation. They all say it as simviatushin. Or something like that. How? I dunno. Lol!

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. This is also our libsyn page as well.

to subscribe to the feed click here

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 16 Feb 2020, at 22:15, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Hi Marco,

You'll need to put your feedback in to Microsoft - the OneCore voices are built into Windows, NVDA just accesses them, it doesn't control how OneCore voices adjust pronunciation etc.  You could talk to the Disabilitry Answer Desk at: https://www.microsoft.com/en-us/accessibility/disability-answer-desk

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Feb 14, 2020 at 8:33 PM Marco Oros <marco.oros93@...> wrote:
Hello.

MS Speech mobile isn't compatible for this version. I have one pleasure
to developers of NVDA.

Please, could You edit Windows Onecore to same things, as MS Speech
mobile, for example to correct pronunciation of letters and also, names
of voices viewing, as name of voice and language. Also, there is problem
with sorting of voices, because voices are sorted randomly.

Please, could You look on It?

Thank You.

best regards

Marco Oros






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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager


Re: web page objects that require the use of the mouse

Jacob Kruger
 

NVDA key + numpad divide/slash key:

Moves the mouse pointer to the current navigator object


Not sure that will help on all webpages, but, HTH


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2020-02-17 06:38 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:

Hi all,


I am trying to get some info from a field on the page but it says to use the mouse to view. I have looked at the object navigation methods after the suggestion on another list but I still can't figure this one out.


If there are any hams on this list who use the qrz.com site and know how to get the email address of someone on qrz.com using NVDA I sure would appreciate some help.


Thanks.

-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

web page objects that require the use of the mouse

Dan Beaver
 

Hi all,


I am trying to get some info from a field on the page but it says to use the mouse to view. I have looked at the object navigation methods after the suggestion on another list but I still can't figure this one out.


If there are any hams on this list who use the qrz.com site and know how to get the email address of someone on qrz.com using NVDA I sure would appreciate some help.


Thanks.

-- 
Dan Beaver (KA4DAN)

Re: Question for NVDA Compiler Team?

David Ouimet
 

Thank you for your reply Quentin, I been using NVDA for backup speech since version 14 now & have seen a lot of great changes over that period. It has come a longways. Thank you to everyone that makes NVDA the great screen reader it is!

Re: Still no go with Vocalizer

Rui Fontes
 

Gerardo, your NVDA add-ons folder is already with lots of problems...

Do you want to make an remote access session?


Rui Fontes


Às 15:06 de 17/02/2020, Gerardo Corripio escreveu:

For the benefit of others who might have trouble with Vocalizer with the new VDA 2019.3.1, here’s my log; with the Compac English voices Rui shared on here, no luck either; the Vocalizer menu doesn’t show either nor do the voices themselves show up within the Synth menu.

INFO - __main__ (09:01:56.797) - MainThread (9992):

Starting NVDA version 2019.3.1

INFO - core.main (09:01:57.604) - MainThread (9992):

Config dir: C:\Users\gerac\AppData\Roaming\nvda

INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (09:01:57.609) - MainThread (9992):

Loading config: C:\Users\gerac\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini

INFO - core.main (09:01:57.879) - MainThread (9992):

Using Windows version 10.0.18363 workstation

INFO - core.main (09:01:57.879) - MainThread (9992):

Using Python version 3.7.5 (tags/v3.7.5:5c02a39a0b, Oct 14 2019, 23:09:19) [MSC v.1916 32 bit (Intel)]

INFO - core.main (09:01:57.879) - MainThread (9992):

Using comtypes version 1.1.7

INFO - core.main (09:01:57.879) - MainThread (9992):

Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1

ERROR - addonHandler.completePendingAddonInstalls (09:01:58.014) - MainThread (9992):

Failed to complete addon installation for vocalizer-expressive-voice-english Compact

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "addonHandler\__init__.pyc", line 120, in completePendingAddonInstalls

FileExistsError: [WinError 183] No se puede crear un archivo que ya existe: 'C:\\Users\\gerac\\AppData\\Roaming\\nvda\\addons\\vocalizer-expressive-voice-english Compact.pendingInstall' -> 'C:\\Users\\gerac\\AppData\\Roaming\\nvda\\addons\\vocalizer-expressive-voice-english Compact'

WARNING - addonHandler._report_manifest_errors (09:01:58.059) - MainThread (9992):

Error loading manifest:

{'name': True, 'summary': VdtTypeError('the value "[\'Nuance Vocalizer Expressive - english Compact Voices (Australia\', \'British\', \'Irish\', \'Scotish\', \'South African and United States)\']" is of the wrong type.'), 'description': True, 'author': True, 'version': True, 'minimumNVDAVersion': True, 'lastTestedNVDAVersion': True, 'url': True, 'docFileName': True}

ERROR - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (09:01:58.059) - MainThread (9992):

Error loading Addon from path: C:\Users\gerac\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\vocalizer-expressive-voice-english Compact

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "addonHandler\__init__.pyc", line 195, in _getAvailableAddonsFromPath

  File "addonHandler\__init__.pyc", line 297, in __init__

addonHandler.AddonError: Manifest file has errors.

WARNING - addonHandler._report_manifest_errors (09:01:58.064) - MainThread (9992):

Error loading manifest:

{'name': True, 'summary': VdtTypeError('the value "[\'Nuance Vocalizer Expressive - Portuguese and Spanish Compact Voices (Argentina\', \'Basque\', \'Brazil\', \'Cataluna\', \'Colombia\', \'Galician\', \'Mexico\', \'Portugal and Spain)\']" is of the wrong type.'), 'description': True, 'author': True, 'version': True, 'minimumNVDAVersion': True, 'lastTestedNVDAVersion': True, 'url': True, 'docFileName': True}

ERROR - addonHandler._getAvailableAddonsFromPath (09:01:58.064) - MainThread (9992):

Error loading Addon from path: C:\Users\gerac\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\vocalizer-expressive-voice-portugueseAndSpanish Compact Voices

Traceback (most recent call last):

  File "addonHandler\__init__.pyc", line 195, in _getAvailableAddonsFromPath

  File "addonHandler\__init__.pyc", line 297, in __init__

addonHandler.AddonError: Manifest file has errors.

INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (09:01:58.934) - MainThread (9992):

Loaded synthDriver ibmeci

INFO - core.main (09:01:59.144) - MainThread (9992):

Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5 with six version 1.12.0

INFO - brailleInput.initialize (09:01:59.144) - MainThread (9992):

Braille input initialized

INFO - braille.initialize (09:01:59.154) - MainThread (9992):

Using liblouis version 3.10.0

INFO - braille.initialize (09:01:59.159) - MainThread (9992):

Using pySerial version 3.4

INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (09:01:59.164) - MainThread (9992):

Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.

INFO - core.main (09:01:59.589) - MainThread (9992):

Java Access Bridge support initialized

INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (09:01:59.613) - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThread (6272):

UIAutomation: IUIAutomation6

INFO - core.main (09:02:02.902) - MainThread (9992):

NVDA initialized

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

the edward voice

Jacob Kruger
 

Along the lines of the discussion on the list...


All I did was install a portable copy of NVDA 2019.2.1, and, install the speechPlayerInEspeak add-on under it.


Then, under that portable copy installation, I browsed to the following relative path:

\userConfig\addons\speechPlayerInEspeak\synthDrivers\espeak-data\voices\!v

From there, I copied the file called edward over to the following path, which falls under my actual installed copy of NVDA 2019.3 rc1:
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\synthDrivers\espeak-ng-data\voices\!v


It did prompt me to continue with administrator privileges when trying to copy the file under program files, but, that's standard.


Anyway, when I now select the eSpeak-NG synthesizer, I can now select the edward variant from the list.

Now, I still myself prefer the normal eSpeak-NG gene variant, but, HTH

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

Re: Question for NVDA Compiler Team?

 

To be honest, I don't see it dieing even if it did drop out from release even now.

For starters, nvda's really strong point is that it relies a lot on in built things from the os.

So if its got a problem, chances are your windows has a problem or your hardware has a problem, ie it will effect more than just nvda.

Its written in a really good scripting language.

With bgt and the false positive thing, and all sorts of things if anything is to get gleened from this, any potential programmer will now know that python is rock solid for writing a screen reader and thats no mean feet.

If it can run something as important as a screen reader and plugins for it then a game from blind to sighted or anything else for that matter is possible.

Nvda just works out the box web related things, and since just about everything is chrome engine based these days even down to a lot of the newer cloud based apps nvda will work with it.

True there are cases for using comercial software but that no longer extends to the average user.

Naturally nvda like everything about will have its limitations, those limitations in my experience have to do with some of the older stuff which is not web enabled and I have a bit of that here and a few other things but for the most part it just works.

Nvda does not rely on drivers that need to run at startup or anything.

The only extra in a system for nvda is its service and that has not impaired users that are sighted as I have systems that I run nvda with sighted users so.

It seems to get round display issues and a few others to.

I am having a big issue with a program I am testing, yes its another reader, and that one has issues with my amd display but also a few issues with intel ones with accessing a certain menu, the start one.

Nvda doesn't care what drivers are installed or what is loaded, it just works.

Nvda doesn't care about anything bar itself.

Using internal libraries for its synths makes it a really fast option.

No third party synthesiser managers and video intercepts.

Opensource for the most part bar those addons like extra voices needing cash.

And I have had it in situations working with speech where a video card on a system was completely broken and couldn't process video at all.

It also does not need a screen to use it or anything.

I maintain systems without a screen attached.



On 18/02/2020 12:06 am, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Well as you say, it's been around since 2006 and we don't see it disappearing any time soon.  We have a fantastic team, a great community and NVDA is the most popular screen reader (according to the WebAIM survey:  https://webaim.org/projects/screenreadersurvey8/) so, I'm quite optimistic about the future!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Feb 17, 2020 at 2:33 PM David Ouimet <whitewater2612@...> wrote:

Hi, I wanted to ask the ones on the NVDA compiler team this. I was thinking of using NVDA exclusively, well would use narrator as well too.  Do you see NVDA bein used for the long range future, Like LibreOffice has been? I know its been around since 2006, so that is a pretty good track record. I hope so!

 

Thanks, David

 



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Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager