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Re: are there hot keys for raising and lowering speed of speech?
Akshaya Choudhary
Hahahah, glad it worked!
And, it's a Sir. Sorry for the confusion, Sir Howard :) -- Regards, Sociohack
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Re: A caution especially in these times
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 03:06 PM, Gene wrote:
I should add that I sent my message to alert people but it may be that further discussion should be in the chat group. There will be people there who can discuss such questions.And I would suggest that anyone with questions regarding any aspect of Windows 10 join the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users group. It is a far better source, and more active source, of Windows 10 information than our Chat Subgroup ever will be. But, since this was clearly meant as a user advisory, which I allowed, but has now spun into an ongoing and off-topic discussion, this topic is locked.  -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.     ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019  Â
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Re: A caution especially in these times
Rob Hudson
Brian Vogel <@britechguy> wrote:
The dangers of blocking updates so hugely outweigh allowing them to be applied that this should never be considered. Also, any computer owner who is not taking routine full system image backups, and this has been true for decades now, is playing Russian roulette. You need to be backing up in case anything causes your system to crash. Perhaps a document should be composed walking newbies through the steps of taking an image backup and restoring it. I personally use active@ diskimage lite to do this. Because you can take a snapshot while the system is running and then restore it from the windows PE. This is the procedure I've been doing for a long time. But I'd be interested to find out how many average computer users know how to do such a thing, or even know it's possible, let alone possible to restore such an image backup with speech. Such a tutorial would greatly benefit the community, I think.
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Re: A caution especially in these times
Gene
I don't use Windows 10 and I can't discuss what the procedures are with sufficient knowledge. I should add that I sent my message to alert people but it may be that further discussion should be in the chat group. There will be people there who can discuss such questions.
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From: Sandra Johnson Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 1:47 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] A caution especially in these times Hello Gene: Does this mean we should turn off automatic updates and do them manually from the website? Thanks, Sandra SLJohnson25@... Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: Gene Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 2:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] A caution especially in these times There is a new cumulative update for Windows 10 for Microsoft. I've seen contradictory things about how many Windows users are having bad effects from it but especially now, with social contact not desired, I think it’s a good idea to wait to see if a fix is released before applying this update. You wouldn't want to have computer problems perhaps requiring service by someone coming to your house or you going somewhere. It is cumulative update KB4549951. If you do a search for this update, you will see articles about it including Kim Komando, Windows Next, and Bleeping Computer. I might not have sent a message under normal conditions but these aren't normal times. Gene
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Re: accessing mail headers in Thunderbird
Akshaya Choudhary
I figured it out! Open the message and press Alt+s, you will be placed in the header of the message. From there, you can TAB your way down to the area of your choice.
-- Regards, Sociohack
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Re: A caution especially in these times
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 02:47 PM, Sandra Johnson wrote:
Does this mean we should turn off automatic updates and do them manually from the website?No. Period. I don't know how many times it is going to take to convince people that there will, always, be outlier systems that crash and burn subsequent to any given update. It simply happens. The reports I've read (and I am with Sarah on Kim Komando, she and the tech writer for Forbes are both well-known overreactors to anything Microsoft-related) all indicate, as Joseph Lee has mentioned, that the issues are on a tiny subset of computers. The dangers of blocking updates so hugely outweigh allowing them to be applied that this should never be considered. Also, any computer owner who is not taking routine full system image backups, and this has been true for decades now, is playing Russian roulette. You need to be backing up in case anything causes your system to crash.  -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.     ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019  Â
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Re: A caution especially in these times
Hi, No, please don’t turn off automatic updates for Windows unless you are sure what you are doing. Again these issues affect a small number of users and it is configuration dependent. Cheers, Joseph Â
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sandra Johnson
Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 11:48 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] A caution especially in these times  Hello Gene:  Does this mean we should turn off automatic updates and do them manually from the website? Thanks,  Sandra Sent from Mail for Windows 10  From: Gene  There is a new cumulative update for Windows 10 for Microsoft. I've seen contradictory things about how many Windows users are having bad effects from it but especially now, with social contact not desired, I think it’s a good idea to wait to see if a fix is released before applying this update. You wouldn't want to have computer problems perhaps requiring service by someone coming to your house or you going somewhere.  It is cumulative update KB4549951.  If you do a search for this update, you will see articles about it including Kim Komando, Windows Next, and Bleeping Computer.  I might not have sent a message under normal conditions but these aren't normal times.  Gene    Â
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Re: A caution especially in these times
Hi,
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There is a newer update, but don't count on that fixing reported problems yet as that one is an optional update. Not all users are experiencing these, and these are configuration dependent. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 11:26 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] A caution especially in these times There is a new cumulative update for Windows 10 for Microsoft. I've seen contradictory things about how many Windows users are having bad effects from it but especially now, with social contact not desired, I think it’s a good idea to wait to see if a fix is released before applying this update. You wouldn't want to have computer problems perhaps requiring service by someone coming to your house or you going somewhere. It is cumulative update KB4549951. If you do a search for this update, you will see articles about it including Kim Komando, Windows Next, and Bleeping Computer. I might not have sent a message under normal conditions but these aren't normal times. Gene
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Re: A caution especially in these times
Thanks. But. I personally do not trust kim komando. The rest of the sources I might trust, with a grain of sault. I am, I believe, running that update with no issues knock on wood. Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page YOu will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 26 Apr 2020, at 11:25, Gene wrote:
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Re: A caution especially in these times
Sandra Johnson <SLJohnson25@...>
Hello Gene: Â Does this mean we should turn off automatic updates and do them manually from the website? Thanks, Â Sandra SLJohnson25@... Sent from Mail for Windows 10 Â
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Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2020 2:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] A caution especially in these times  There is a new cumulative update for Windows 10 for Microsoft. I've seen contradictory things about how many Windows users are having bad effects from it but especially now, with social contact not desired, I think it’s a good idea to wait to see if a fix is released before applying this update. You wouldn't want to have computer problems perhaps requiring service by someone coming to your house or you going somewhere.  It is cumulative update KB4549951.  If you do a search for this update, you will see articles about it including Kim Komando, Windows Next, and Bleeping Computer.  I might not have sent a message under normal conditions but these aren't normal times.  Gene    Â
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Re: are there hot keys for raising and lowering speed of speech?
Howard Traxler
YES SIR OR MADAM! That sure does work. What a wonderous thing
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On 4/26/2020 1:20 PM, Akshaya Choudhary wrote:
@Howard, in my case sometimes it works if I use numpad 0 as the NVDA modifier key, instead of the capslock which I normally use.
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A caution especially in these times
Gene
There is a new cumulative update for Windows 10 for Microsoft. I've seen contradictory things about how many Windows users are having bad effects from it but especially now, with social contact not desired, I think it’s a good idea to wait to see if a fix is released before applying this update. You wouldn't want to have computer problems perhaps requiring service by someone coming to your house or you going somewhere.
It is cumulative update KB4549951. If you do a search for this update, you will see articles about it including Kim Komando, Windows Next, and Bleeping Computer. I might not have sent a message under normal conditions but these aren't normal times. Gene
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Re: are there hot keys for raising and lowering speed of speech?
Akshaya Choudhary
@Howard, in my case sometimes it works if I use numpad 0 as the NVDA modifier key, instead of the capslock which I normally use.
-- Regards, Sociohack
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Re: are there hot keys for raising and lowering speed of speech?
Howard Traxler
OK, how do we fix it? Until then, I guess I'll just live with it.
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On 4/26/2020 11:55 AM, Akshaya Choudhary wrote:
@Howard I experience the same issue while using an external keyboard on my laptop.
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Re: accessing mail headers in Thunderbird
Akshaya Choudhary
Thank you, Ron. It works with some newsletters. I think it's an issue caused by the newsletters.
-- Regards, Sociohack
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Re: are there hot keys for raising and lowering speed of speech?
Akshaya Choudhary
@Howard I experience the same issue while using an external keyboard on my laptop.
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Re: Any desktop client for twitter with NVDA
On Sun, Apr 26, 2020 at 03:46 AM, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:
How do I access the mobile version of the Twitter website?As a general rule, most sites that have mobile equivalents are just, m.{sitename}.  In the case of twitter m.twitter.com.  -- Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.     ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019  Â
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Re: Any desktop client for twitter with NVDA
Akshaya Choudhary
@mk360 alright, I understand the case for third party clients. They seem very useful. Will definitely try them out. Are there any such clients for other social media networks, like Facebook, Instagram, Reddit and Quora?
-- Regards, Sociohack
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Re: Call for a tutorial
Sarah,
     You have, in times past, recommended the Reapers Without Peepers group right here on Groups.io. The resource you mention, along with several others including Osara, SWS extensions, and reaperaccessibility.com are all mentioned, front and center, in the group description section. The e-mail addresses for the group are, like all Groups.io groups, located under the section Group Email Addresses on the same page.       There is also the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users group on Groups.io as well.       A quick web search on "Goldwave blind" turns up a treasure trove of infomation, including but not limited to, 24 Karat GoldWave! A Training Course for Screen-Reader ... , and Accessible Audio Editor for Visually ... - Blind Street. There is also a GoldWave add-on for the NVDA screen reader, too.
On the Fundamental Importance of Being Able to Perform Web Searches Searching the NVDA Group Archive Searching the Windows 10 for Screen Reader Users Group Archive Searching the JAWS Group Archive Searching the Android Accessibility Group Archive--Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1909, Build 18363  Science has become just another voice in the room; it has lost its platform. Now, you simply declare your own truth.     ~ Dr. Paul A. Offit, in New York Times article, How Anti-Vaccine Sentiment Took Hold in the United States, September 23, 2019  Â
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Re: A question about Vocalizer
Is that driver not going to be posted at your home page soon? I find it odd that as of now it is not as nvda 19.3 has ben out for at least 2 months and people are finding it hard to find your updated driver(s). Take care. Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter Our discord is where you will know when we go live on [twitch.](http://twitch.tv/ke7zum] Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there. For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page YOu will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there. Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
On 26 Apr 2020, at 6:50, Rui Fontes wrote:
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