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pressing shift capslock m with an ahk script?

mslion
 

Hi all,
How can I press the key combination shift capslock m with ahk?


Re: is there some setting that controls this?

Sarah k Alawami
 

I gave the steps earlier.
windows plus t, shift tab, click the task view button, tab to the list. It will also show your desktops if you have any.

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Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

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On 15 Jan 2021, at 15:53, Tyler Spivey wrote:

What's the long way? You can just press NVDA+f2, Windows+tab, or redefine that key in WinWizard.

On 1/15/2021 2:59 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Right, for me I have an add on that disables that key, winwizard to be more specific, so I have to do it the long ish way. thank goodness for more than one way.

--

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Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. <http://tffppodcast.com/shadow>

to subscribe to the feed click here <http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp> and you can also follow us on twitter <http://twitter.com/tffppodcast>

Our discord <http://discord.tffppodcast.com> is where you will know when we go live on twitch. <http://twitch.tv/ke7zum> Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum> and my tffp lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@tffp> You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here <Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>

On 15 Jan 2021, at 14:27, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

The fastest way to open Task View is pressing Windows+Tab.

Cheers,

Joseph

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2021 1:58 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

If you hit windows t, then shift tab and click the task view button
you will view said table. I like it actually. The top row is the
stuff you had open just now. the next row is the stuff you had open
today etc etc etc. I don't use the task view often, except to move
apps to virtual desktops but it works well for what I need and is a
quick ish way to get around.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
<http://www.tffppodcast.com>

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
<http://tffppodcast.com/shadow>

to subscribe to the feed click here
<http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp> and you can also follow us on
twitter <http://twitter.com/tffppodcast>

Our discord <http://discord.tffppodcast.com> is where you will know
when we go live on twitch. <http://twitch.tv/ke7zum> Feel free to
give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main
lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum> and my tffp lbry page
<http://lbry.tv/@tffp> You will also be able to buy some of my
products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
<Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>

On 15 Jan 2021, at 13:42, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
Not really, as the new table interface was implemented since
Windows 8.x days.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

The table of open windows is usually what I'm interested in. Is
there a way to change this so it displays to NVDA in a list or
however it did in Windows 7 and before?

On 1/15/21, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22590@...
<mailto:joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
Actually, you can't really find out how many programs are
running as
many of them do not show windows. What task switching window
(Alt+Tab)
will show is a table of open windows. At least on recent
Windows 10
releases, to find out how many windows are showing, it is
better to
open Task View (Windows+Tab) instead.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Most of the time it doesn't, but there are certainly times
when I'd
like to know how many programs are running.

On 1/15/21, Gene gsasner@...
<mailto:gsasner@...> wrote:

Why does it matter? If you alt tab through running
programs, you'll
get to

the one you want. I' not saying it doesn't matter, but I
don't
understand where it would.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Hi all,
I had to use Narrator to get me out of a tight spot
yesterday, and
I've noticed this in previous experiences as well.
Narrator, and
every other screen reader on Windows 7, gave the alt+tab
list as a
number out of total programs, for example Windows Media
Player 2 of
3. Now on 10, Narrator is the only screen reader that
does this.
Everything else I've used with Windows 10 says "Windows
Media Player row 1 column 2."
To me this is not useful at all, because I have no idea
how many rows
there are, or how many columns are in a row. Is there a
way to change
the way NVDA announces this?
Bob


Re: is there some setting that controls this?

Tyler Spivey
 

What's the long way? You can just press NVDA+f2, Windows+tab, or redefine that key in WinWizard.

On 1/15/2021 2:59 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Right, for me I have an add on that disables that key, winwizard to be more specific, so I have to do it the long ish way. thank goodness for more than one way.
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website. <http://www.tffppodcast.com>
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine. <http://tffppodcast.com/shadow>
to subscribe to the feed click here <http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp> and you can also follow us on twitter <http://twitter.com/tffppodcast>
Our discord <http://discord.tffppodcast.com> is where you will know when we go live on twitch. <http://twitch.tv/ke7zum> Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum> and my tffp lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@tffp> You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here <Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>
On 15 Jan 2021, at 14:27, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
The fastest way to open Task View is pressing Windows+Tab.
Cheers,
Joseph
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of
*Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Friday, January 15, 2021 1:58 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?
If you hit windows t, then shift tab and click the task view button
you will view said table. I like it actually. The top row is the
stuff you had open just now. the next row is the stuff you had open
today etc etc etc. I don't use the task view often, except to move
apps to virtual desktops but it works well for what I need and is a
quick ish way to get around.
--
Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.
<http://www.tffppodcast.com>
Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.
<http://tffppodcast.com/shadow>
to subscribe to the feed click here
<http://feeds.feedburner.com/tffp> and you can also follow us on
twitter <http://twitter.com/tffppodcast>
Our discord <http://discord.tffppodcast.com> is where you will know
when we go live on twitch. <http://twitch.tv/ke7zum> Feel free to
give the channel a follow and see what is up there.
For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main
lbry page <http://lbry.tv/@ke7zum> and my tffp lbry page
<http://lbry.tv/@tffp> You will also be able to buy some of my
products and eBooks there.
Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here
<Http://patreon.com/tffppodcast>
On 15 Jan 2021, at 13:42, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Not really, as the new table interface was implemented since
Windows 8.x days.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?
The table of open windows is usually what I'm interested in. Is
there a way to change this so it displays to NVDA in a list or
however it did in Windows 7 and before?
On 1/15/21, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22590@gmail.com
<mailto:joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Actually, you can't really find out how many programs are
running as
many of them do not show windows. What task switching window
(Alt+Tab)
will show is a table of open windows. At least on recent
Windows 10
releases, to find out how many windows are showing, it is
better to
open Task View (Windows+Tab) instead.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?
Most of the time it doesn't, but there are certainly times
when I'd
like to know how many programs are running.
On 1/15/21, Gene gsasner@gmail.com
<mailto:gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Why does it matter? If you alt tab through running
programs, you'll
get to
the one you want. I' not saying it doesn't matter, but I
don't
understand where it would.
Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?
Hi all,
I had to use Narrator to get me out of a tight spot
yesterday, and
I've noticed this in previous experiences as well.
Narrator, and
every other screen reader on Windows 7, gave the alt+tab
list as a
number out of total programs, for example Windows Media
Player 2 of
3. Now on 10, Narrator is the only screen reader that
does this.
Everything else I've used with Windows 10 says "Windows
Media Player row 1 column 2."
To me this is not useful at all, because I have no idea
how many rows
there are, or how many columns are in a row. Is there a
way to change
the way NVDA announces this?
Bob


Re: Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hi,

Okay, and apparently SPL settings isn’t showing up on NVDA preferences menu? Another way to check if SPL add-on is indeed running is:

  1. Open Studio.
  2. Press Alt+NVDA+Number row 0 (zero) while focused on Studio. If the add-on is running, settings dialog should appear.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas E Williamson, Senior
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Yes, I went to N v d a add-on page, and clicked on, station playlis from there.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 4:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hi,

Did you actually install the SPL add-on? You need to install it before SPL Settings will show up.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas E Williamson, Senior
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hello,

I am using SPL, 5.40 or later,

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 9:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hi,

What version of Studio and the SPL add-on are you using? If after installing SPL add-on and restarting NVDA, if SPL Settings does not appear, chances are that either you are using Studio 5.20 or earlier or something went wrong when loading the add-on.

Cheers,

Joseph (current SPL add-on maintainer)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas E Williamson, Senior
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 2:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hello,

The following items occur after correctly applying your instructions:

I see settings, speech dictionary, input jestures, and punctations., but there is no station playlist.

Any suggestions!

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 2:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

open NVDA press p for preferences

up arrow to spl settings and enter

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:37 PM

Subject: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hello,

How can I find the instructions for assigning the keys for n v d a to work with station playlist.

Please note: I have the ad-on for spl as well.

For example, in jaws, if I press the letter m, this will allow me the chance to talk on air, while my music is playing softly in the background.

It appears in N v d a, that this does not work, for some reason.

Hope that this makes since.

I appreciate any help.

I am new to using n v d a with spl.

Thanks!

Regards,

Thomas.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cuong Dang Manh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

 

Hi all
I think the problem caused by Office 2016. My friend use Microsoft Office 2016. I created a portable NVDA from my current NVDA, and shared to her, but the problem still occur after installing that one. Right now I don't have any computer with office 2016 install, and try to make sure this is an issue so if any of you using the latest NVDA with office 2016, please share expirience. If this is an issue, I'm going to create a tiket on github.
Cuong

On 12/31/2020 10:38 AM, Cuong Dang Manh via groups.io wrote:

Hi Giles
Thanks for your instruction. I know this, but my friend said she can edit her file normaly. Just feel a little annoy while NVDA read this each time she navigate. I'll call her to understand the problem clearly.
Appreciated your help, and replies from other member.
Cuong

On 12/30/2020 10:42 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:

Hi Cuong,

most of the time this happens with Word, it is because the document has been emailed to the NVDA user. Regardless of whether the NVDA user has opened it directly from the email or has saved it to their computer first and then opened it, Word will open it in protected mode, which is read-only and therefore it can't be edited and many of the ribbon options, like chnaging font or changing the view to draft view will not work.

To prevent that happening, press ALT+f to open the file menu, press the down arrow key three times to get to the Info menu, press Tab to enter that menu and then press the down arrow to get to the Protected View menu. Press Tab again and you'll be on the Enable Editing option and, if you press enter, that document will become unprotected and the NVDA user should no longer hear the warning that the document is protected and can't be edited. It will remain unprotected even after you close the document or shut down the computer. The same works with Excel files :)

I hope that helps.

Giles


Re: Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

Thomas E Williamson, Senior
 

Yes, I went to N v d a add-on page, and clicked on, station playlis from there.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 4:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hi,

Did you actually install the SPL add-on? You need to install it before SPL Settings will show up.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas E Williamson, Senior
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hello,

I am using SPL, 5.40 or later,

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 9:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hi,

What version of Studio and the SPL add-on are you using? If after installing SPL add-on and restarting NVDA, if SPL Settings does not appear, chances are that either you are using Studio 5.20 or earlier or something went wrong when loading the add-on.

Cheers,

Joseph (current SPL add-on maintainer)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas E Williamson, Senior
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 2:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hello,

The following items occur after correctly applying your instructions:

I see settings, speech dictionary, input jestures, and punctations., but there is no station playlist.

Any suggestions!

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 2:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

open NVDA press p for preferences

up arrow to spl settings and enter

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:37 PM

Subject: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hello,

How can I find the instructions for assigning the keys for n v d a to work with station playlist.

Please note: I have the ad-on for spl as well.

For example, in jaws, if I press the letter m, this will allow me the chance to talk on air, while my music is playing softly in the background.

It appears in N v d a, that this does not work, for some reason.

Hope that this makes since.

I appreciate any help.

I am new to using n v d a with spl.

Thanks!

Regards,

Thomas.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cuong Dang Manh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

 

Hi all
I think the problem caused by Office 2016. My friend use Microsoft Office 2016. I created a portable NVDA from my current NVDA, and shared to her, but the problem still occur after installing that one. Right now I don't have any computer with office 2016 install, and try to make sure this is an issue so if any of you using the latest NVDA with office 2016, please share expirience. If this is an issue, I'm going to create a tiket on github.
Cuong

On 12/31/2020 10:38 AM, Cuong Dang Manh via groups.io wrote:

Hi Giles
Thanks for your instruction. I know this, but my friend said she can edit her file normaly. Just feel a little annoy while NVDA read this each time she navigate. I'll call her to understand the problem clearly.
Appreciated your help, and replies from other member.
Cuong

On 12/30/2020 10:42 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:

Hi Cuong,

most of the time this happens with Word, it is because the document has been emailed to the NVDA user. Regardless of whether the NVDA user has opened it directly from the email or has saved it to their computer first and then opened it, Word will open it in protected mode, which is read-only and therefore it can't be edited and many of the ribbon options, like chnaging font or changing the view to draft view will not work.

To prevent that happening, press ALT+f to open the file menu, press the down arrow key three times to get to the Info menu, press Tab to enter that menu and then press the down arrow to get to the Protected View menu. Press Tab again and you'll be on the Enable Editing option and, if you press enter, that document will become unprotected and the NVDA user should no longer hear the warning that the document is protected and can't be edited. It will remain unprotected even after you close the document or shut down the computer. The same works with Excel files :)

I hope that helps.

Giles


Re: is there some setting that controls this?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Right, for me I have an add on that disables that key, winwizard to be more specific, so I have to do it the long ish way. thank goodness for more than one way.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 15 Jan 2021, at 14:27, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,

The fastest way to open Task View is pressing Windows+Tab.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

 

If you hit windows t, then shift tab and click the task view button you will view said table. I like it actually. The top row is the stuff you had open just now. the next row is the stuff you had open today etc etc etc. I don't use the task view often, except to move apps to virtual desktops but it works well for what I need and is a quick ish way to get around.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 15 Jan 2021, at 13:42, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
Not really, as the new table interface was implemented since Windows 8.x days.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

The table of open windows is usually what I'm interested in. Is there a way to change this so it displays to NVDA in a list or however it did in Windows 7 and before?

On 1/15/21, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22590@... wrote:

Hi,
Actually, you can't really find out how many programs are running as
many of them do not show windows. What task switching window (Alt+Tab)
will show is a table of open windows. At least on recent Windows 10
releases, to find out how many windows are showing, it is better to
open Task View (Windows+Tab) instead.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Most of the time it doesn't, but there are certainly times when I'd
like to know how many programs are running.

On 1/15/21, Gene gsasner@... wrote:

Why does it matter? If you alt tab through running programs, you'll
get to

the one you want. I' not saying it doesn't matter, but I don't
understand where it would.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Hi all,
I had to use Narrator to get me out of a tight spot yesterday, and
I've noticed this in previous experiences as well. Narrator, and
every other screen reader on Windows 7, gave the alt+tab list as a
number out of total programs, for example Windows Media Player 2 of
3. Now on 10, Narrator is the only screen reader that does this.
Everything else I've used with Windows 10 says "Windows Media Player row 1 column 2."
To me this is not useful at all, because I have no idea how many rows
there are, or how many columns are in a row. Is there a way to change
the way NVDA announces this?
Bob


Re: is there some setting that controls this?

 

Hi,
I assume it will look at item count UIA property.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tyler Spivey
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Then why does Narrator give the proper count if this is the case?

On 1/15/2021 1:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Not really, as the new table interface was implemented since Windows 8.x days.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

The table of open windows is usually what I'm interested in. Is there a way to change this so it displays to NVDA in a list or however it did in Windows 7 and before?

On 1/15/21, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Actually, you can't really find out how many programs are running as
many of them do not show windows. What task switching window
(Alt+Tab) will show is a table of open windows. At least on recent
Windows 10 releases, to find out how many windows are showing, it is
better to open Task View (Windows+Tab) instead.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Most of the time it doesn't, but there are certainly times when I'd
like to know how many programs are running.

On 1/15/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Why does it matter? If you alt tab through running programs, you'll
get to

the one you want. I' not saying it doesn't matter, but I don't
understand where it would.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Hi all,
I had to use Narrator to get me out of a tight spot yesterday, and
I've noticed this in previous experiences as well. Narrator, and
every other screen reader on Windows 7, gave the alt+tab list as a
number out of total programs, for example Windows Media Player 2 of
3. Now on 10, Narrator is the only screen reader that does this.
Everything else I've used with Windows 10 says "Windows Media Player row 1 column 2."
To me this is not useful at all, because I have no idea how many
rows there are, or how many columns are in a row. Is there a way to
change the way NVDA announces this?
Bob



























Re: Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hi,

Did you actually install the SPL add-on? You need to install it before SPL Settings will show up.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas E Williamson, Senior
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hello,

I am using SPL, 5.40 or later,

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 9:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hi,

What version of Studio and the SPL add-on are you using? If after installing SPL add-on and restarting NVDA, if SPL Settings does not appear, chances are that either you are using Studio 5.20 or earlier or something went wrong when loading the add-on.

Cheers,

Joseph (current SPL add-on maintainer)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas E Williamson, Senior
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 2:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hello,

The following items occur after correctly applying your instructions:

I see settings, speech dictionary, input jestures, and punctations., but there is no station playlist.

Any suggestions!

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 2:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

open NVDA press p for preferences

up arrow to spl settings and enter

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:37 PM

Subject: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hello,

How can I find the instructions for assigning the keys for n v d a to work with station playlist.

Please note: I have the ad-on for spl as well.

For example, in jaws, if I press the letter m, this will allow me the chance to talk on air, while my music is playing softly in the background.

It appears in N v d a, that this does not work, for some reason.

Hope that this makes since.

I appreciate any help.

I am new to using n v d a with spl.

Thanks!

Regards,

Thomas.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cuong Dang Manh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

 

Hi all
I think the problem caused by Office 2016. My friend use Microsoft Office 2016. I created a portable NVDA from my current NVDA, and shared to her, but the problem still occur after installing that one. Right now I don't have any computer with office 2016 install, and try to make sure this is an issue so if any of you using the latest NVDA with office 2016, please share expirience. If this is an issue, I'm going to create a tiket on github.
Cuong

On 12/31/2020 10:38 AM, Cuong Dang Manh via groups.io wrote:

Hi Giles
Thanks for your instruction. I know this, but my friend said she can edit her file normaly. Just feel a little annoy while NVDA read this each time she navigate. I'll call her to understand the problem clearly.
Appreciated your help, and replies from other member.
Cuong

On 12/30/2020 10:42 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:

Hi Cuong,

most of the time this happens with Word, it is because the document has been emailed to the NVDA user. Regardless of whether the NVDA user has opened it directly from the email or has saved it to their computer first and then opened it, Word will open it in protected mode, which is read-only and therefore it can't be edited and many of the ribbon options, like chnaging font or changing the view to draft view will not work.

To prevent that happening, press ALT+f to open the file menu, press the down arrow key three times to get to the Info menu, press Tab to enter that menu and then press the down arrow to get to the Protected View menu. Press Tab again and you'll be on the Enable Editing option and, if you press enter, that document will become unprotected and the NVDA user should no longer hear the warning that the document is protected and can't be edited. It will remain unprotected even after you close the document or shut down the computer. The same works with Excel files :)

I hope that helps.

Giles


Re: is there some setting that controls this?

 

Hi,

The fastest way to open Task View is pressing Windows+Tab.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

 

If you hit windows t, then shift tab and click the task view button you will view said table. I like it actually. The top row is the stuff you had open just now. the next row is the stuff you had open today etc etc etc. I don't use the task view often, except to move apps to virtual desktops but it works well for what I need and is a quick ish way to get around.

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On 15 Jan 2021, at 13:42, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
Not really, as the new table interface was implemented since Windows 8.x days.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

The table of open windows is usually what I'm interested in. Is there a way to change this so it displays to NVDA in a list or however it did in Windows 7 and before?

On 1/15/21, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22590@... wrote:

Hi,
Actually, you can't really find out how many programs are running as
many of them do not show windows. What task switching window (Alt+Tab)
will show is a table of open windows. At least on recent Windows 10
releases, to find out how many windows are showing, it is better to
open Task View (Windows+Tab) instead.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Most of the time it doesn't, but there are certainly times when I'd
like to know how many programs are running.

On 1/15/21, Gene gsasner@... wrote:

Why does it matter? If you alt tab through running programs, you'll
get to

the one you want. I' not saying it doesn't matter, but I don't
understand where it would.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Hi all,
I had to use Narrator to get me out of a tight spot yesterday, and
I've noticed this in previous experiences as well. Narrator, and
every other screen reader on Windows 7, gave the alt+tab list as a
number out of total programs, for example Windows Media Player 2 of
3. Now on 10, Narrator is the only screen reader that does this.
Everything else I've used with Windows 10 says "Windows Media Player row 1 column 2."
To me this is not useful at all, because I have no idea how many rows
there are, or how many columns are in a row. Is there a way to change
the way NVDA announces this?
Bob


Re: strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Gene
 

I don't see behavior to support that. the stops in reading occur at the same place in web pages, often in the middle of something like an article. The reading isn't interrupted in the examples I'm discussing to allow content to be read from a live region update.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Rob Hudson
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 4:01 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Sounds like yet another time when live regions are getting in the way.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 15:51:34 -0600
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

I hope we get more comments and that more people try to duplicate the
problem. As with the problem I discussed where NVDA stops reading on some
web pages, while I've seen it discussed, I haven't seen much discussion so I
have no idea if this is a rare or common problem. I don't think the version
of Windows matters. I am using Windows 7 but I have seen one or two other
people complain about the stop reading problem and I suspect they are using
Windows 10.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Yes, you are right, NVDA does skip stuff on that site. Any idea how to
fix that? I think that article was the one where she talked about
Sunday school, and using read to end the first time, NVDA completely
skipped over that part. I've only had the repeating issue on
radioinsight.com, and only then when I have a lot of windows open.

On 1/15/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Windows 7 but my comments may well apply to Windows 10 as well.

This problem may be related to another problem I've seen on occasion and
I've seen one or two other people complain of. that is, repetition of
text

when using read to end on certain sites. When this happens to me, I copy
the page to the clipboard, paste it into Notepad, and read the material I
want. But that is hardly an ideal solution and keeps links from being
seen

and followed.

The behavior I observed on this page is that now and then a phrase will be
skipped. I can go back and read by line and the phrase will be spoken as
it

should be. I saw this happen three times in the part of the article I
read

on this page. I had to read quite a bit of it after the first two skips
near the beginning for it to happen a third time.

Also, a different problem I've seen a few people complain of and which
happens to me is that NVDA will stop reading in a browser when using read
to

end on some pages. This appears to be some sort of reaction to one or
more

types of formatting because it isn't limited to any specifric site or page
but may happen on this or that page on a certain site but not on others on
the same site.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 11:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of
adds

Okay, it's happened pretty consistantly with articles on this site.
This is just one, but look through her links and you'll probably find
others too. I also happen to find this topic quite fascinating!
https://yourkidstable.com/proprioceptive-activities/

On 1/14/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
If you give one or more page addresses, people can check them over time
and

see if they have the same behavior intermittently. An intermittent
problem

can still be investigated, it just may take longer.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Hi all,
Okay, this is probably one of the strangest problems I've seen.
Sometimes, NVDA will skip around websites that have lots of add
content, but not always, though I can't seem to make it work reliably.
Here's what happens:
1. I open several websites in Firefox, one in each window.
2. I try to read one of them using NVDA+Down Arrow.
3. As I'm reading them, NVDA either skips words or rereads words. I'd
post a link to where this is likely to happen, but I can't seem to
reproduce it reliably myself. Today I revisited the site I was having
this problem with yesterday, but it didn't do it there. It did,
however, do it on the site I first discovered it on a couple weeks ago
today.
Bob



























Re: strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Rob Hudson
 

Sounds like yet another time when live regions are getting in the way.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Fri, 15 Jan 2021 15:51:34 -0600
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

I hope we get more comments and that more people try to duplicate the
problem. As with the problem I discussed where NVDA stops reading on some
web pages, while I've seen it discussed, I haven't seen much discussion so I
have no idea if this is a rare or common problem. I don't think the version
of Windows matters. I am using Windows 7 but I have seen one or two other
people complain about the stop reading problem and I suspect they are using
Windows 10.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Yes, you are right, NVDA does skip stuff on that site. Any idea how to
fix that? I think that article was the one where she talked about
Sunday school, and using read to end the first time, NVDA completely
skipped over that part. I've only had the repeating issue on
radioinsight.com, and only then when I have a lot of windows open.

On 1/15/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Windows 7 but my comments may well apply to Windows 10 as well.

This problem may be related to another problem I've seen on occasion and
I've seen one or two other people complain of. that is, repetition of
text

when using read to end on certain sites. When this happens to me, I copy
the page to the clipboard, paste it into Notepad, and read the material I
want. But that is hardly an ideal solution and keeps links from being
seen

and followed.

The behavior I observed on this page is that now and then a phrase will be
skipped. I can go back and read by line and the phrase will be spoken as
it

should be. I saw this happen three times in the part of the article I
read

on this page. I had to read quite a bit of it after the first two skips
near the beginning for it to happen a third time.

Also, a different problem I've seen a few people complain of and which
happens to me is that NVDA will stop reading in a browser when using read
to

end on some pages. This appears to be some sort of reaction to one or
more

types of formatting because it isn't limited to any specifric site or page
but may happen on this or that page on a certain site but not on others on
the same site.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 11:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of
adds

Okay, it's happened pretty consistantly with articles on this site.
This is just one, but look through her links and you'll probably find
others too. I also happen to find this topic quite fascinating!
https://yourkidstable.com/proprioceptive-activities/

On 1/14/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
If you give one or more page addresses, people can check them over time
and

see if they have the same behavior intermittently. An intermittent
problem

can still be investigated, it just may take longer.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Hi all,
Okay, this is probably one of the strangest problems I've seen.
Sometimes, NVDA will skip around websites that have lots of add
content, but not always, though I can't seem to make it work reliably.
Here's what happens:
1. I open several websites in Firefox, one in each window.
2. I try to read one of them using NVDA+Down Arrow.
3. As I'm reading them, NVDA either skips words or rereads words. I'd
post a link to where this is likely to happen, but I can't seem to
reproduce it reliably myself. Today I revisited the site I was having
this problem with yesterday, but it didn't do it there. It did,
however, do it on the site I first discovered it on a couple weeks ago
today.
Bob



























Re: is there some setting that controls this?

Sarah k Alawami
 

If you hit windows t, then shift tab and click the task view button you will view said table. I like it actually. The top row is the stuff you had open just now. the next row is the stuff you had open today etc etc etc. I don't use the task view often, except to move apps to virtual desktops but it works well for what I need and is a quick ish way to get around.

--

Sarah Alawami, owner of TFFP. . For more info go to our website.

Check out my adventures with a shadow machine.

to subscribe to the feed click here and you can also follow us on twitter

Our discord is where you will know when we go live on twitch. Feel free to give the channel a follow and see what is up there.

For stream archives, products you can buy and more visit my main lbry page and my tffp lbry page You will also be able to buy some of my products and eBooks there.

Finally, to become a patron and help support the podcast go here

On 15 Jan 2021, at 13:42, Joseph Lee wrote:

Hi,
Not really, as the new table interface was implemented since Windows 8.x days.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

The table of open windows is usually what I'm interested in. Is there a way to change this so it displays to NVDA in a list or however it did in Windows 7 and before?

On 1/15/21, Joseph Lee joseph.lee22590@... wrote:

Hi,
Actually, you can't really find out how many programs are running as
many of them do not show windows. What task switching window (Alt+Tab)
will show is a table of open windows. At least on recent Windows 10
releases, to find out how many windows are showing, it is better to
open Task View (Windows+Tab) instead.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io nvda@nvda.groups.io On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Most of the time it doesn't, but there are certainly times when I'd
like to know how many programs are running.

On 1/15/21, Gene gsasner@... wrote:

Why does it matter? If you alt tab through running programs, you'll
get to

the one you want. I' not saying it doesn't matter, but I don't
understand where it would.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Hi all,
I had to use Narrator to get me out of a tight spot yesterday, and
I've noticed this in previous experiences as well. Narrator, and
every other screen reader on Windows 7, gave the alt+tab list as a
number out of total programs, for example Windows Media Player 2 of
3. Now on 10, Narrator is the only screen reader that does this.
Everything else I've used with Windows 10 says "Windows Media Player row 1 column 2."
To me this is not useful at all, because I have no idea how many rows
there are, or how many columns are in a row. Is there a way to change
the way NVDA announces this?
Bob


Re: Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

Thomas E Williamson, Senior
 

Hello,

I am using SPL, 5.40 or later,

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 9:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hi,

What version of Studio and the SPL add-on are you using? If after installing SPL add-on and restarting NVDA, if SPL Settings does not appear, chances are that either you are using Studio 5.20 or earlier or something went wrong when loading the add-on.

Cheers,

Joseph (current SPL add-on maintainer)

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Thomas E Williamson, Senior
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 2:56 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hello,

The following items occur after correctly applying your instructions:

I see settings, speech dictionary, input jestures, and punctations., but there is no station playlist.

Any suggestions!

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 2:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

open NVDA press p for preferences

up arrow to spl settings and enter

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 8:37 PM

Subject: [nvda] Using N V D A with Station Play List Studio!

 

Hello,

How can I find the instructions for assigning the keys for n v d a to work with station playlist.

Please note: I have the ad-on for spl as well.

For example, in jaws, if I press the letter m, this will allow me the chance to talk on air, while my music is playing softly in the background.

It appears in N v d a, that this does not work, for some reason.

Hope that this makes since.

I appreciate any help.

I am new to using n v d a with spl.

Thanks!

Regards,

Thomas.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cuong Dang Manh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 9:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA say: edit read-only when nagivate line by line in Word

 

Hi all
I think the problem caused by Office 2016. My friend use Microsoft Office 2016. I created a portable NVDA from my current NVDA, and shared to her, but the problem still occur after installing that one. Right now I don't have any computer with office 2016 install, and try to make sure this is an issue so if any of you using the latest NVDA with office 2016, please share expirience. If this is an issue, I'm going to create a tiket on github.
Cuong

On 12/31/2020 10:38 AM, Cuong Dang Manh via groups.io wrote:

Hi Giles
Thanks for your instruction. I know this, but my friend said she can edit her file normaly. Just feel a little annoy while NVDA read this each time she navigate. I'll call her to understand the problem clearly.
Appreciated your help, and replies from other member.
Cuong

On 12/30/2020 10:42 PM, Giles Turnbull wrote:

Hi Cuong,

most of the time this happens with Word, it is because the document has been emailed to the NVDA user. Regardless of whether the NVDA user has opened it directly from the email or has saved it to their computer first and then opened it, Word will open it in protected mode, which is read-only and therefore it can't be edited and many of the ribbon options, like chnaging font or changing the view to draft view will not work.

To prevent that happening, press ALT+f to open the file menu, press the down arrow key three times to get to the Info menu, press Tab to enter that menu and then press the down arrow to get to the Protected View menu. Press Tab again and you'll be on the Enable Editing option and, if you press enter, that document will become unprotected and the NVDA user should no longer hear the warning that the document is protected and can't be edited. It will remain unprotected even after you close the document or shut down the computer. The same works with Excel files :)

I hope that helps.

Giles


Re: strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Gene
 

I hope we get more comments and that more people try to duplicate the problem. As with the problem I discussed where NVDA stops reading on some web pages, while I've seen it discussed, I haven't seen much discussion so I have no idea if this is a rare or common problem. I don't think the version of Windows matters. I am using Windows 7 but I have seen one or two other people complain about the stop reading problem and I suspect they are using Windows 10.

Gene

-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Yes, you are right, NVDA does skip stuff on that site. Any idea how to
fix that? I think that article was the one where she talked about
Sunday school, and using read to end the first time, NVDA completely
skipped over that part. I've only had the repeating issue on
radioinsight.com, and only then when I have a lot of windows open.

On 1/15/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Windows 7 but my comments may well apply to Windows 10 as well.

This problem may be related to another problem I've seen on occasion and
I've seen one or two other people complain of. that is, repetition of text

when using read to end on certain sites. When this happens to me, I copy
the page to the clipboard, paste it into Notepad, and read the material I
want. But that is hardly an ideal solution and keeps links from being seen

and followed.

The behavior I observed on this page is that now and then a phrase will be
skipped. I can go back and read by line and the phrase will be spoken as it

should be. I saw this happen three times in the part of the article I read

on this page. I had to read quite a bit of it after the first two skips
near the beginning for it to happen a third time.

Also, a different problem I've seen a few people complain of and which
happens to me is that NVDA will stop reading in a browser when using read to

end on some pages. This appears to be some sort of reaction to one or more

types of formatting because it isn't limited to any specifric site or page
but may happen on this or that page on a certain site but not on others on
the same site.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 11:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Okay, it's happened pretty consistantly with articles on this site.
This is just one, but look through her links and you'll probably find
others too. I also happen to find this topic quite fascinating!
https://yourkidstable.com/proprioceptive-activities/

On 1/14/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
If you give one or more page addresses, people can check them over time
and

see if they have the same behavior intermittently. An intermittent
problem

can still be investigated, it just may take longer.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Hi all,
Okay, this is probably one of the strangest problems I've seen.
Sometimes, NVDA will skip around websites that have lots of add
content, but not always, though I can't seem to make it work reliably.
Here's what happens:
1. I open several websites in Firefox, one in each window.
2. I try to read one of them using NVDA+Down Arrow.
3. As I'm reading them, NVDA either skips words or rereads words. I'd
post a link to where this is likely to happen, but I can't seem to
reproduce it reliably myself. Today I revisited the site I was having
this problem with yesterday, but it didn't do it there. It did,
however, do it on the site I first discovered it on a couple weeks ago
today.
Bob


















Re: is there some setting that controls this?

Tyler Spivey
 

Then why does Narrator give the proper count if this is the case?

On 1/15/2021 1:42 PM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Not really, as the new table interface was implemented since Windows 8.x days.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?
The table of open windows is usually what I'm interested in. Is there a way to change this so it displays to NVDA in a list or however it did in Windows 7 and before?
On 1/15/21, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Actually, you can't really find out how many programs are running as
many of them do not show windows. What task switching window (Alt+Tab)
will show is a table of open windows. At least on recent Windows 10
releases, to find out how many windows are showing, it is better to
open Task View (Windows+Tab) instead.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Most of the time it doesn't, but there are certainly times when I'd
like to know how many programs are running.

On 1/15/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Why does it matter? If you alt tab through running programs, you'll
get to

the one you want. I' not saying it doesn't matter, but I don't
understand where it would.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Hi all,
I had to use Narrator to get me out of a tight spot yesterday, and
I've noticed this in previous experiences as well. Narrator, and
every other screen reader on Windows 7, gave the alt+tab list as a
number out of total programs, for example Windows Media Player 2 of
3. Now on 10, Narrator is the only screen reader that does this.
Everything else I've used with Windows 10 says "Windows Media Player row 1 column 2."
To me this is not useful at all, because I have no idea how many rows
there are, or how many columns are in a row. Is there a way to change
the way NVDA announces this?
Bob



















Re: strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

Yes, you are right, NVDA does skip stuff on that site. Any idea how to
fix that? I think that article was the one where she talked about
Sunday school, and using read to end the first time, NVDA completely
skipped over that part. I've only had the repeating issue on
radioinsight.com, and only then when I have a lot of windows open.

On 1/15/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I use Windows 7 but my comments may well apply to Windows 10 as well.

This problem may be related to another problem I've seen on occasion and
I've seen one or two other people complain of. that is, repetition of text

when using read to end on certain sites. When this happens to me, I copy
the page to the clipboard, paste it into Notepad, and read the material I
want. But that is hardly an ideal solution and keeps links from being seen

and followed.

The behavior I observed on this page is that now and then a phrase will be
skipped. I can go back and read by line and the phrase will be spoken as it

should be. I saw this happen three times in the part of the article I read

on this page. I had to read quite a bit of it after the first two skips
near the beginning for it to happen a third time.

Also, a different problem I've seen a few people complain of and which
happens to me is that NVDA will stop reading in a browser when using read to

end on some pages. This appears to be some sort of reaction to one or more

types of formatting because it isn't limited to any specifric site or page
but may happen on this or that page on a certain site but not on others on
the same site.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 11:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Okay, it's happened pretty consistantly with articles on this site.
This is just one, but look through her links and you'll probably find
others too. I also happen to find this topic quite fascinating!
https://yourkidstable.com/proprioceptive-activities/

On 1/14/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
If you give one or more page addresses, people can check them over time
and

see if they have the same behavior intermittently. An intermittent
problem

can still be investigated, it just may take longer.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Thursday, January 14, 2021 6:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] strange problem with NVDA on websites with lots of adds

Hi all,
Okay, this is probably one of the strangest problems I've seen.
Sometimes, NVDA will skip around websites that have lots of add
content, but not always, though I can't seem to make it work reliably.
Here's what happens:
1. I open several websites in Firefox, one in each window.
2. I try to read one of them using NVDA+Down Arrow.
3. As I'm reading them, NVDA either skips words or rereads words. I'd
post a link to where this is likely to happen, but I can't seem to
reproduce it reliably myself. Today I revisited the site I was having
this problem with yesterday, but it didn't do it there. It did,
however, do it on the site I first discovered it on a couple weeks ago
today.
Bob


















Re: is there some setting that controls this?

 

Hi,
Not really, as the new table interface was implemented since Windows 8.x days.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

The table of open windows is usually what I'm interested in. Is there a way to change this so it displays to NVDA in a list or however it did in Windows 7 and before?

On 1/15/21, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Actually, you can't really find out how many programs are running as
many of them do not show windows. What task switching window (Alt+Tab)
will show is a table of open windows. At least on recent Windows 10
releases, to find out how many windows are showing, it is better to
open Task View (Windows+Tab) instead.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob
Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Most of the time it doesn't, but there are certainly times when I'd
like to know how many programs are running.

On 1/15/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Why does it matter? If you alt tab through running programs, you'll
get to

the one you want. I' not saying it doesn't matter, but I don't
understand where it would.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Hi all,
I had to use Narrator to get me out of a tight spot yesterday, and
I've noticed this in previous experiences as well. Narrator, and
every other screen reader on Windows 7, gave the alt+tab list as a
number out of total programs, for example Windows Media Player 2 of
3. Now on 10, Narrator is the only screen reader that does this.
Everything else I've used with Windows 10 says "Windows Media Player row 1 column 2."
To me this is not useful at all, because I have no idea how many rows
there are, or how many columns are in a row. Is there a way to change
the way NVDA announces this?
Bob



















Re: is there some setting that controls this?

Bob Cavanaugh <cavbob1993@...>
 

The table of open windows is usually what I'm interested in. Is there
a way to change this so it displays to NVDA in a list or however it
did in Windows 7 and before?

On 1/15/21, Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi,
Actually, you can't really find out how many programs are running as many of
them do not show windows. What task switching window (Alt+Tab) will show is
a table of open windows. At least on recent Windows 10 releases, to find out
how many windows are showing, it is better to open Task View (Windows+Tab)
instead.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Most of the time it doesn't, but there are certainly times when I'd like to
know how many programs are running.

On 1/15/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Why does it matter? If you alt tab through running programs, you'll
get to

the one you want. I' not saying it doesn't matter, but I don't
understand where it would.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Hi all,
I had to use Narrator to get me out of a tight spot yesterday, and
I've noticed this in previous experiences as well. Narrator, and every
other screen reader on Windows 7, gave the alt+tab list as a number
out of total programs, for example Windows Media Player 2 of 3. Now on
10, Narrator is the only screen reader that does this. Everything else
I've used with Windows 10 says "Windows Media Player row 1 column 2."
To me this is not useful at all, because I have no idea how many rows
there are, or how many columns are in a row. Is there a way to change
the way NVDA announces this?
Bob



















Re: is there some setting that controls this?

 

Hi,
Actually, you can't really find out how many programs are running as many of them do not show windows. What task switching window (Alt+Tab) will show is a table of open windows. At least on recent Windows 10 releases, to find out how many windows are showing, it is better to open Task View (Windows+Tab) instead.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:28 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Most of the time it doesn't, but there are certainly times when I'd like to know how many programs are running.

On 1/15/21, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
Why does it matter? If you alt tab through running programs, you'll
get to

the one you want. I' not saying it doesn't matter, but I don't
understand where it would.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Hi all,
I had to use Narrator to get me out of a tight spot yesterday, and
I've noticed this in previous experiences as well. Narrator, and every
other screen reader on Windows 7, gave the alt+tab list as a number
out of total programs, for example Windows Media Player 2 of 3. Now on
10, Narrator is the only screen reader that does this. Everything else
I've used with Windows 10 says "Windows Media Player row 1 column 2."
To me this is not useful at all, because I have no idea how many rows
there are, or how many columns are in a row. Is there a way to change
the way NVDA announces this?
Bob










Re: is there some setting that controls this?

 

Hi,
This is due to the way task switching window is presented to NVDA - visually, it is a table.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 1:26 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Why does it matter? If you alt tab through running programs, you'll get to the one you want. I' not saying it doesn't matter, but I don't understand where it would.

Gene
-----Original Message-----
From: Bob Cavanaugh
Sent: Friday, January 15, 2021 3:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] is there some setting that controls this?

Hi all,
I had to use Narrator to get me out of a tight spot yesterday, and I've noticed this in previous experiences as well. Narrator, and every other screen reader on Windows 7, gave the alt+tab list as a number out of total programs, for example Windows Media Player 2 of 3. Now on 10, Narrator is the only screen reader that does this. Everything else I've used with Windows 10 says "Windows Media Player row 1 column 2."
To me this is not useful at all, because I have no idea how many rows there are, or how many columns are in a row. Is there a way to change the way NVDA announces this?
Bob

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