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Re: do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

Roger Stewart
 

You should get the lame-enc.dll file and just put it into the mp3 direct cut folder and that will do it.

Roger

On 11/12/2017 4:48 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Looks to me like you would need to download the latest lame mp3 full library to record in mp3. Not sure but just a quick read of the manual suggests there is a record button and as I do not see one despite setting the hardware to my sound card and only lame playback I can deduce this is probably the case. If others disagree, do let us know.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 10:02 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?


What system are you running it on? I'd have thought, like many of these programs they have to know what to record from in the first place so there should be some kind of set up system for it. I've not used it myself, but xp sound and 7 sound and later work in different ways, which is why quickmix won't work after XP.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?


hi again every one specially gene and roger.
thanks extremely for your help, mp3 direct cut is exactly the software
that i need.
but the only problem for me is i cant record anything.
i only can delete the unnecessary part of my sounds.
what should i do to record mp3 with it?


On 11/12/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
But all the person wants to do is work with MP3 files. Audacity is a more
complex program and just for recording and editing MP3 files, MP3 direct Cut
is a bettter choice.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
recorder?


for me, I would use audicity



Gene 於 12/11/2017 4:40 寫道:

Mp3 Direct Cut meets all your requirements.

Gene
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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 1:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
audio recorder?


Depends what you call simple. Many do record but as often when you do this

you next need to edit the files, then I'd still use a program like
audacity
or if you can afford a little beit Goldwave.
There is virtual recorder but not tested it on XP as I think its aimed at

those with sound cards that you cannot record streams from etc.

If you have a mobile phone, just press record is your thing.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
recorder?


> hello every one.
> i need one program which can record mp3, be freeware or opensource,
> safe, reliable, simple to use, supports all windows versions
since xp,
> accessible and if possible, without extra software offering.
> except jetaudio that i realy cant use, please help me.
> God bless you all!
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of
salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> www.al-islam.org
>
>
>







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org







.


Re: NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

Steve Nutt
 

Hang on a sec. Isn't Narrator some form of accessibility? You can now
install Windows from a DVD with Narrator running.

So you can't say Windows doesn't come with accessibility, not now anyway.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik
burggraaf
Sent: 11 November 2017 18:28
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

Hi Mike, I live in Ontario. I am not a lawyer, or a legislature, however, I
think I'm pretty familiar with the accessibility legislation we have here.
There is nothing as far as I know in the accessibility legislation that says
that accommodations need to be insured. I could be wrong. Feel free to
correct me.

Dolphin maybe trying to move itself in, but right now, we are looking at an
accessibility situation here that involves Freedom Scientific Jaws for
Windows, and non-visual desktop access nvda. The people who own and develop
Jaws are motivated by money. As soon as Jaws stops being a financially
viable product, it will cease to be developed and produced. At that point,
the government will not be able to purchase it, because it won't be
available for sale. Government offices will probably be the final holdouts
in the great switch, but at some point technology will force them to do the
right thing, even if they manage to hold out against employee and user
demands.
Although government is ridiculously slow to change, governments were the
first early adopters of the mobile platforms in the late 90s and early 2000.
Mobile technologies and their accessibility Solutions are the way of the
future. Because of what first Apple, and then Google have done, governments
are already issuing devices to their employees with disabilities where
accessibility already comes standard. In fact, Windows is currently the only
platform where accessibility does not come standard.
At some point, accessible procurement may be a factor in governments finally
switching either to a different desktop platform, or two entire mobile
platforms. Of course, they will resist this change, but there are two
inexorable factors. First, user demand. Accommodation legislation is usually
worded in such a way that if a user asks for a specific accommodation, that
has to be taken into consideration. Second, you can't buy something that
isn't on the market. As demand for Windows decreases, so too will the demand
for Jaws for Windows, and as I said, they will not continue to produce
something they can't sell. Come talk to me in another 3 or 4 years.



On November 11, 2017 1:08:23 PM "Mike and Jenna" <schwaltze@gmail.com>
wrote:

Lol You better have a long talk with the top guys at the government as they
do not follow your logic. They want software that comes from insured
companys and other things like that nvda could never afford to be insured
like that here in Canada or the use. There is many reasons that nvda will
not be part of the government unless somethings changes and money is raised
to get them insured over here. Also that still wouldn't work as they need to
be insured every year. There is nothing that holds nvda labial if something
goes wrong like there is with freedom.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of erik
burggraaf
Sent: Friday, November 10, 2017 11:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

Hi Steve, anyone can alter the code of an open source project, true. a what
I fail to understand is, how is this an inherent ecurity concern? The
altered code must be installed in order to do what you author it to do. You
can blow up the code five ways from Sunday, but if you are installing
official builds, no one will ever see your damaged code. In theory, I
suppose someone could hack the update server, place a damaged update into
the update queue, and roll it out to other computers. I have to say though,
I think that's a very very miniscule risk.

Administrators of public computer systems generally lock things down, so
that users cannot get access to the program files folder, the windows
folder, and other critical system functions. Users can not simply walk up
and install anything they want, regardless of whether it is open source or
not. If your systems are secure, and the Distribution Systems for the
software are secure, and the policies you operate under are secure, then
regardless of whether the software is open source or not, the entire
procedure should be secure.

If you are a foolish administrator, allowing users to install things
willy-nilly on public computers, then there is a very high risk of that
someone will go to virusladengames.com, and download a bunch of crap to the
computer. I would consider this a much greater risk, then securely
installing open source software to provide accessibility.

Unless I am greatly missing something, I submit that installing code from an
unknown source is a security risk, but the innate ability to modify code is
not.



On November 10, 2017 10:42:26 AM "Steve Nutt" <steve@comproom.co.uk> wrote:

Hi,

I would have thought the security aspect is obvious. Since it is open
source, anyone has access to the code, and anyone can alter it. So I can
understand workplace concerns.

All the best

Steve

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Bhavya
shah
Sent: 09 November 2017 06:02
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA in the workforce and in public institutions

Hi Sky,
Before we debate the security of NVDA, I think we need to get the case of
the library representative clarified. Firstly, what are the bases of this
assertion that NVDA is less secure? Secondly, assuming that the claimant has
the requisite technical knowhow, has he perused NVDA's source code to
substantiate this claim? Thirdly, are there any specific security
vulnerabilities or exploits present in NVDA that he can point us to?
Unless the library representative can provide cogent responses to the above
questions, or strengthen his claim by concrete evidence, I would dismiss
such a comment as a misinformed and groundless one which holds no water.
Thanks.

On 11/9/17, Sky Mundell <skyt@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hello All. Today, I was at our monthly technology meeting at a public
library here in Victoria, British Columbia, and NVDA was one of the
screen reading options discussed to a new participant who had low
vision. However, the tech at the library looked at it, and he told the
group that it was less secure, and they commented that it was better
for home use, rather than in corporate environments. Would NV Access
staffers like to comment on this issue, and what can be done to
address this issue? Because they were going to settle on the
Window-Eyes for office option back when it was being updated, but as
we all know it got discontinued and they did look at Window-Eyes as an
option and they were more in favour of it due to it not being Open
Source. They also did have JAWS for a time but got rid of it due to
lack of training and they would have had to spend money to get
somebody from FS to train them on it. Any suggestions you guys could
give me would be greatly appreciated! Thanks, Sky.





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Re: do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

Roger Stewart
 

With mp3 direct cut running and in focus, hit the letter R. This will put it into record standby. When you want to start the actual recording, just hit the space bar.

Roger

On 11/12/2017 1:01 AM, zahra wrote:
hi again every one specially gene and roger.
thanks extremely for your help, mp3 direct cut is exactly the software
that i need.
but the only problem for me is i cant record anything.
i only can delete the unnecessary part of my sounds.
what should i do to record mp3 with it?


On 11/12/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
But all the person wants to do is work with MP3 files. Audacity is a more
complex program and just for recording and editing MP3 files, MP3 direct Cut
is a bettter choice.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
recorder?


for me, I would use audicity



Gene 於 12/11/2017 4:40 寫道:

Mp3 Direct Cut meets all your requirements.

Gene
----- Original Message -----


From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 1:37 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
audio recorder?


Depends what you call simple. Many do record but as often when you do this

you next need to edit the files, then I'd still use a program like
audacity
or if you can afford a little beit Goldwave.
There is virtual recorder but not tested it on XP as I think its aimed at

those with sound cards that you cannot record streams from etc.

If you have a mobile phone, just press record is your thing.
Brian

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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
recorder?


> hello every one.
> i need one program which can record mp3, be freeware or opensource,
> safe, reliable, simple to use, supports all windows versions since xp,
> accessible and if possible, without extra software offering.
> except jetaudio that i realy cant use, please help me.
> God bless you all!
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> www.al-islam.org
>
>
>







Re: a new browser to talk about

David Griffith
 

What was the error message?

 

 

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From: Pascal Lambert
Sent: 12 November 2017 13:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new browser to talk about

 

I downloaded it to try.  When I launched it, I got an error message and the program never loaded.

Blessings

Pascal  

 

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Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 4:49 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] a new browser to talk about

 

Yes.

That is what was meeant by 7 or later.

Brian

 

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From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...>

To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:53 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] a new browser to talk about

 

 

Does it work for windows ten too?

 

-----Original Message-----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert

Mendoza

Sent: November-10-17 11:18 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] a new browser to talk about

 

Waterfox runs only for Windows 7 or later with 64-bit.

 

Robert Mendoza

 

On 11/11/2017 2:34 PM, zahra wrote:

> do you mean that it only supports windows 64bit?

> i have windows xp 32bit and i was curious to test different programs.

> what should i do?

> On 11/11/17, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@...> wrote:

>> no, it runs to all the 64 bit variants of Windows 7 or later.

>> 

>> Robert Mendoza

>> 

>> On 11/11/2017 12:06 PM, Arlene wrote:

>>> Hi, does it only work for windows ten?

>>> 

>>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf

>>> Of *Bobby Vinton

>>> *Sent:* November-10-17 6:26 PM

>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io

>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] a new browser to talk about

>>> 

>>> No this is not a tweek at all butt it works like fire fox.  You can

>>> get water fox at www.filehorse.com <http://www.filehorse.com>.  I

>>> don’t know what water foxes home page is.  I hope you enjoy it.  s

>>> 

>>> Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

>>> Windows 10

>>> 

>>> *From: *David <mailto:trailerdavid@...>

>>> *Sent: *Friday, November 10, 2017 9:13 PM

>>> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

>>> *Subject: *Re: [nvda] a new browser to talk about

>>> 

>>> Where would you get the WaterFox?

>>> 

>>> Is it just as safe as Firefox, or is this a tweaked, hacked and "we

>>> keep all doors open" version of the firefox core? Anyone knows who

>>> develop or maintain the product, and what intentions are behind the

>>> product?

>>> 

>>> On 11/10/2017 11:02 PM, Florian Ionașcu wrote:

>>> 

>>>          Hello, I am interested to try it. I wanna see if it's quite

>>>      accessible with NVDA. If yes, I'll recomend it to the Romanian

>>>      community members.

>>> 

>>>      La 10.11.2017 23:32, Joseph Weakland a scris:

>>> 

>>>          have you tried to see if wweb visum works on it?

>>> 

>>>          On 11/10/2017 2:34 PM, Bobby Vinton wrote:

>>> 

>>>              Hay I am using this browser called water fox.  Just to let

>>>              you all know water fox is just like fire fox so you don’t

>>>              have to learn any thing new. You can use fire fox add ons

>>>              so you don’t have to worry about finding new add ons that

>>>              will work with the water fox browser

>>> 

>>>              Sent from Mail

>>>              <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for

>>>              Windows 10

>>> 

>>>          --

>>> 

>>>          email

>>> 

>>>          josephweakland@... <mailto:josephweakland@...>

>>> 

>>>          sent from thunderbird

>>> 

>>> 

>> 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


using form fields in word

enes sarıbaş
 

hi all,

I need to create a CV  in microsoft word. I am using the resume templet in word for this. However, I cannot access the edit fields. When tabbing through the document with browse mode on, I hear a ding sound. Additionally, all edit fields appear to be on a single line. Attempting to tab in forms mode in an edit field just inserts a tab character. Furthermore, pressing e in browse mode just says unsupported in this document. How can I manage this with nvda? Doesn't nvda support  this functionality?


Re: a new browser to talk about

Pascal Lambert
 

I downloaded it to try. When I launched it, I got an error message and the program never loaded.
Blessings
Pascal

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Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 4:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new browser to talk about

Yes.
That is what was meeant by 7 or later.
Brian

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From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new browser to talk about


Does it work for windows ten too?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert
Mendoza
Sent: November-10-17 11:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new browser to talk about

Waterfox runs only for Windows 7 or later with 64-bit.

Robert Mendoza

On 11/11/2017 2:34 PM, zahra wrote:
do you mean that it only supports windows 64bit?
i have windows xp 32bit and i was curious to test different programs.
what should i do?

On 11/11/17, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com> wrote:
no, it runs to all the 64 bit variants of Windows 7 or later.

Robert Mendoza

On 11/11/2017 12:06 PM, Arlene wrote:
Hi, does it only work for windows ten?

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf
Of *Bobby Vinton
*Sent:* November-10-17 6:26 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] a new browser to talk about

No this is not a tweek at all butt it works like fire fox. You can
get water fox at www.filehorse.com <http://www.filehorse.com>. I
don’t know what water foxes home page is. I hope you enjoy it. s

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *David <mailto:trailerdavid@hotmail.com>
*Sent: *Friday, November 10, 2017 9:13 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] a new browser to talk about

Where would you get the WaterFox?

Is it just as safe as Firefox, or is this a tweaked, hacked and "we
keep all doors open" version of the firefox core? Anyone knows who
develop or maintain the product, and what intentions are behind the
product?

On 11/10/2017 11:02 PM, Florian Ionașcu wrote:

Hello, I am interested to try it. I wanna see if it's quite
accessible with NVDA. If yes, I'll recomend it to the Romanian
community members.

La 10.11.2017 23:32, Joseph Weakland a scris:

have you tried to see if wweb visum works on it?

On 11/10/2017 2:34 PM, Bobby Vinton wrote:

Hay I am using this browser called water fox. Just to let
you all know water fox is just like fire fox so you don’t
have to learn any thing new. You can use fire fox add ons
so you don’t have to worry about finding new add ons that
will work with the water fox browser

Sent from Mail
<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

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Re: do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

Gene
 

You need the Lame encoder.  I haven't looked much to find where to download it.  You place the lame_enc.dll file in the MP3 Direct folder.  You don't need to put anything else that comes with the Lame_enc.dll folder anywhere. 
 
Once it's in the right place, run MP3 Direct Cut, and press f12 to open the encoder part of the configuration dialog.
Tab around.  You will find a check box to check with the space bar to use Lame_enc.dll.  Tab through the dialog and set things as you wish.  You must activate the cloase button after making changes to save them. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 1:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

hi again every one specially gene and roger.
thanks extremely for your help, mp3 direct cut is exactly the software
that i need.
but the only problem for me is i cant record anything.
i only can delete the unnecessary part of my sounds.
what should i do to record mp3 with it?


On 11/12/17, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> But all the person wants to do is work with MP3 files.  Audacity is a more
> complex program and just for recording and editing MP3 files, MP3 direct Cut
> is a bettter choice.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
>
> From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
> Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:05 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
> recorder?
>
>
> for me, I would use audicity
>
>
>
> Gene 於 12/11/2017 4:40 寫道:
>
>   Mp3 Direct Cut meets all your requirements.
>
>   Gene
>   ----- Original Message -----
>
>
>   From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
>   Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 1:37 PM
>   To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free
> audio recorder?
>
>
>   Depends what you call simple. Many do record but as often when you do this
>
>   you next need to edit the files, then I'd still use a program like
> audacity
>   or if you can afford a little beit Goldwave.
>    There is virtual recorder but not tested it on XP as I think its aimed at
>
>   those with sound cards that you cannot record streams from etc.
>
>   If you have a mobile phone, just press record is your thing.
>    Brian
>
>   bglists@...
>   Sent via blueyonder.
>   Please address personal email to:-
>   briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>   in the display name field.
>   ----- Original Message -----
>   From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
>   To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>   Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:46 PM
>   Subject: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
>   recorder?
>
>
>   > hello every one.
>   > i need one program which can record mp3, be freeware or opensource,
>   > safe, reliable, simple to use, supports all windows versions since xp,
>   > accessible and if possible, without extra software offering.
>   > except jetaudio that i realy cant use, please help me.
>   > God bless you all!
>   >
>   > --
>   > we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
>   > holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
>   > in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
>   > indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
>   > best website for studying islamic book in different languages
>   > www.al-islam.org
>   >
>   >
>   >
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


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holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
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Re: do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

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I still use virtual recorder, It has the benefit of being able to record not only from the sound device, but incoming audio and what you hear, ie if you want to demo an error in nvda in audio etc.
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Looks to me like you would need to download the latest lame mp3 full library to record in mp3. Not sure but just a quick read of the manual suggests there is a record button and as I do not see one despite setting the hardware to my sound card and only lame playback I can deduce this is probably the case. If others disagree, do let us know.
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What system are you running it on? I'd have thought, like many of these programs they have to know what to record from in the first place so there should be some kind of set up system for it. I've not used it myself, but xp sound and 7 sound and later work in different ways, which is why quickmix won't work after XP.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?


hi again every one specially gene and roger.
thanks extremely for your help, mp3 direct cut is exactly the software
that i need.
but the only problem for me is i cant record anything.
i only can delete the unnecessary part of my sounds.
what should i do to record mp3 with it?


On 11/12/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
But all the person wants to do is work with MP3 files. Audacity is a more
complex program and just for recording and editing MP3 files, MP3 direct Cut
is a bettter choice.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
recorder?


for me, I would use audicity



Gene 於 12/11/2017 4:40 寫道:

Mp3 Direct Cut meets all your requirements.

Gene
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audio recorder?


Depends what you call simple. Many do record but as often when you do this

you next need to edit the files, then I'd still use a program like
audacity
or if you can afford a little beit Goldwave.
There is virtual recorder but not tested it on XP as I think its aimed at

those with sound cards that you cannot record streams from etc.

If you have a mobile phone, just press record is your thing.
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
recorder?


> hello every one.
> i need one program which can record mp3, be freeware or opensource,
> safe, reliable, simple to use, supports all windows versions since
xp,
> accessible and if possible, without extra software offering.
> except jetaudio that i realy cant use, please help me.
> God bless you all!
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of
salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> www.al-islam.org
>
>
>







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org







Re: do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

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Looks to me like you would need to download the latest lame mp3 full library to record in mp3. Not sure but just a quick read of the manual suggests there is a record button and as I do not see one despite setting the hardware to my sound card and only lame playback I can deduce this is probably the case. If others disagree, do let us know.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?


What system are you running it on? I'd have thought, like many of these programs they have to know what to record from in the first place so there should be some kind of set up system for it. I've not used it myself, but xp sound and 7 sound and later work in different ways, which is why quickmix won't work after XP.
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Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?


hi again every one specially gene and roger.
thanks extremely for your help, mp3 direct cut is exactly the software
that i need.
but the only problem for me is i cant record anything.
i only can delete the unnecessary part of my sounds.
what should i do to record mp3 with it?


On 11/12/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
But all the person wants to do is work with MP3 files. Audacity is a more
complex program and just for recording and editing MP3 files, MP3 direct Cut
is a bettter choice.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
recorder?


for me, I would use audicity



Gene 於 12/11/2017 4:40 寫道:

Mp3 Direct Cut meets all your requirements.

Gene
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 1:37 PM
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audio recorder?


Depends what you call simple. Many do record but as often when you do this

you next need to edit the files, then I'd still use a program like
audacity
or if you can afford a little beit Goldwave.
There is virtual recorder but not tested it on XP as I think its aimed at

those with sound cards that you cannot record streams from etc.

If you have a mobile phone, just press record is your thing.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
recorder?


> hello every one.
> i need one program which can record mp3, be freeware or opensource,
> safe, reliable, simple to use, supports all windows versions since
xp,
> accessible and if possible, without extra software offering.
> except jetaudio that i realy cant use, please help me.
> God bless you all!
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of
salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> www.al-islam.org
>
>
>







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org





Re: do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?

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What system are you running it on? I'd have thought, like many of these programs they have to know what to record from in the first place so there should be some kind of set up system for it. I've not used it myself, but xp sound and 7 sound and later work in different ways, which is why quickmix won't work after XP.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, November 12, 2017 7:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio recorder?


hi again every one specially gene and roger.
thanks extremely for your help, mp3 direct cut is exactly the software
that i need.
but the only problem for me is i cant record anything.
i only can delete the unnecessary part of my sounds.
what should i do to record mp3 with it?


On 11/12/17, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
But all the person wants to do is work with MP3 files. Audacity is a more
complex program and just for recording and editing MP3 files, MP3 direct Cut
is a bettter choice.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
recorder?


for me, I would use audicity



Gene 於 12/11/2017 4:40 寫道:

Mp3 Direct Cut meets all your requirements.

Gene
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audio recorder?


Depends what you call simple. Many do record but as often when you do this

you next need to edit the files, then I'd still use a program like
audacity
or if you can afford a little beit Goldwave.
There is virtual recorder but not tested it on XP as I think its aimed at

those with sound cards that you cannot record streams from etc.

If you have a mobile phone, just press record is your thing.
Brian

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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 6:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] do you know one accessible, simple to use and free audio
recorder?


> hello every one.
> i need one program which can record mp3, be freeware or opensource,
> safe, reliable, simple to use, supports all windows versions since xp,
> accessible and if possible, without extra software offering.
> except jetaudio that i realy cant use, please help me.
> God bless you all!
>
> --
> we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
> holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
> in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
> indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of
salvation.
> best website for studying islamic book in different languages
> www.al-islam.org
>
>
>







--
we have not sent you but as a mercy to the entire creation.
holy quran, chapter 21, verse 107.
in the very authentic narration from prophet Mohammad is:
indeed, imam husayn is the beacon of guidance and the ark of salvation.
best website for studying islamic book in different languages
www.al-islam.org


Re: NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

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The big question here is who put the screenreaders on the machine in the first place.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down


If you don't have something load at login and after login, you may miss error messages. You should have something start and if you don't want to use it, you can unload it and run something else. But having a machine be silent at the login screen and silent after you log in is a bad idea. Also, I'm not sure what is occurring but it may have been a mistake to take the computer to the store rather than discuss the problem here first. E-Speak comes with NVDA but it just doesn't speak. It speaks at times when NVDA is running. Something is occurring and we don't know what yet.

Gene
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From: Mary Otten
Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 5:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down


OK. But he doesn’t have an account on the machine. So far as I know, I am the only one, administrator. And I do not have NVDA set to load either at logon or at start up or I should say after start up. I have a couple of screen readers on the machine. And I don’t want any of them loading until I say which one, or maybe I just want to load kurzweil. So nothing like that is loading and I am the only account.
Mary


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On Nov 11, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

There are 2 settings related to NVDA, when a log-on/secure screen is displayed and after a user logs into Windows. If any NVDA user has a profile in which the setting for log-on/secure screens is selected, those screens will be spoken irrespective of whether a particular user has NVDA loaded when working in their own Windows user account or not. For example if both you and your husband have a user account on the computer, you are an an NVDA user but your husband is not. If your husband logs into his account, NVDA is not loaded but if he logs out, Windows will load NVDA so the log in screen will be spoken to enable you to log-in if you so wish.

Cheers
Chris



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Sent: 11 November 2017 22:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

OK, but why would it talk if it’s not loaded? If it’s never been started up, shouldn’t it stay silent?
Mary


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On Nov 11, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi
When the Windows log-in and lock screen come into play, a Different NVDA profile is used to the one related to your user-id and it may be this that is providing speech during the shut-down process. Unless you specifically copy a modified profile across for system usage, it will use the default synth which is E-speak.

Cheers
Chris

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Mary Otten
Sent: 11 November 2017 19:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a
problem with shut down

I have this new machine and it has NVDA on it. But in Vda does not load at start up. We are having some problems with the machine, and my husband thought he had narrowed it down to stuff screwing up when you restart rather than shutting down the machine. Anyway, with NVDA not loaded when the machine is shutting down, occasionally will hang up and e speak will start talking. That is not the synthesizer I have selected. But it does talk. And it is happened on a few occasions. When he took it back to the store to let the tech look at it, it did that once, and now the tech is blaming the whole thing on NVDA. I’m sure that’s not correct, but I don’t know what to tell them.
Mary


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Re: Beware latest CD Burner XP

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In the case of the offered cddb as offered it is in fact impossible to install normally as the bit hat tries to get you to install stuff is, in itself inaccessible so you simply go around in circles with no obvious way to get past the offer. This was what they used to have before, and what they had actually fixed more recently, but seemingly have regressed again.
I have now downloaded unchcky, so we shall see what it does. I do hope it does not mess with checkboxes in things like K-Lite where you set it so some items are used and others not.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Beware latest CD Burner XP


The vile practice of bundling is gaining steam and I am under no illusion it will slow down, ever.

That's why I use Unchecky, even though I try to assiduously catch this stuff manually, it has sometimes slipped by.

For those interested in Unchecky: http://unchecky.com ( http://unchecky.com ) and the changelog for their releases: https://unchecky.com/changelog ( https://unchecky.com/changelog )
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Re: a new browser to talk about

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Yes.
That is what was meeant by 7 or later.
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new browser to talk about


Does it work for windows ten too?

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Sent: November-10-17 11:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a new browser to talk about

Waterfox runs only for Windows 7 or later with 64-bit.

Robert Mendoza

On 11/11/2017 2:34 PM, zahra wrote:
do you mean that it only supports windows 64bit?
i have windows xp 32bit and i was curious to test different programs.
what should i do?

On 11/11/17, Robert Mendoza <lowvisiontek@gmail.com> wrote:
no, it runs to all the 64 bit variants of Windows 7 or later.

Robert Mendoza

On 11/11/2017 12:06 PM, Arlene wrote:
Hi, does it only work for windows ten?

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf
Of *Bobby Vinton
*Sent:* November-10-17 6:26 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] a new browser to talk about

No this is not a tweek at all butt it works like fire fox. You can
get water fox at www.filehorse.com <http://www.filehorse.com>. I
don’t know what water foxes home page is. I hope you enjoy it. s

Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for
Windows 10

*From: *David <mailto:trailerdavid@hotmail.com>
*Sent: *Friday, November 10, 2017 9:13 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] a new browser to talk about

Where would you get the WaterFox?

Is it just as safe as Firefox, or is this a tweaked, hacked and "we
keep all doors open" version of the firefox core? Anyone knows who
develop or maintain the product, and what intentions are behind the
product?

On 11/10/2017 11:02 PM, Florian Ionașcu wrote:

Hello, I am interested to try it. I wanna see if it's quite
accessible with NVDA. If yes, I'll recomend it to the Romanian
community members.

La 10.11.2017 23:32, Joseph Weakland a scris:

have you tried to see if wweb visum works on it?

On 11/10/2017 2:34 PM, Bobby Vinton wrote:

Hay I am using this browser called water fox. Just to let
you all know water fox is just like fire fox so you don’t
have to learn any thing new. You can use fire fox add ons
so you don’t have to worry about finding new add ons that
will work with the water fox browser

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Re: NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

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But still at some time in the process it will have been selected. The only way to stop it I think is to completely uninstall nvda.
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 11:09 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down


OK. But he doesn’t have an account on the machine. So far as I know, I am the only one, administrator. And I do not have NVDA set to load either at logon or at start up or I should say after start up. I have a couple of screen readers on the machine. And I don’t want any of them loading until I say which one, or maybe I just want to load kurzweil. So nothing like that is loading and I am the only account.
Mary


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On Nov 11, 2017, at 2:57 PM, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

There are 2 settings related to NVDA, when a log-on/secure screen is displayed and after a user logs into Windows. If any NVDA user has a profile in which the setting for log-on/secure screens is selected, those screens will be spoken irrespective of whether a particular user has NVDA loaded when working in their own Windows user account or not. For example if both you and your husband have a user account on the computer, you are an an NVDA user but your husband is not. If your husband logs into his account, NVDA is not loaded but if he logs out, Windows will load NVDA so the log in screen will be spoken to enable you to log-in if you so wish.

Cheers
Chris



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: 11 November 2017 22:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

OK, but why would it talk if it’s not loaded? If it’s never been started up, shouldn’t it stay silent?
Mary


Sent from my iPhone

On Nov 11, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi
When the Windows log-in and lock screen come into play, a Different NVDA profile is used to the one related to your user-id and it may be this that is providing speech during the shut-down process. Unless you specifically copy a modified profile across for system usage, it will use the default synth which is E-speak.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Mary Otten
Sent: 11 November 2017 19:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a
problem with shut down

I have this new machine and it has NVDA on it. But in Vda does not load at start up. We are having some problems with the machine, and my husband thought he had narrowed it down to stuff screwing up when you restart rather than shutting down the machine. Anyway, with NVDA not loaded when the machine is shutting down, occasionally will hang up and e speak will start talking. That is not the synthesizer I have selected. But it does talk. And it is happened on a few occasions. When he took it back to the store to let the tech look at it, it did that once, and now the tech is blaming the whole thing on NVDA. I’m sure that’s not correct, but I don’t know what to tell them.
Mary


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Re: NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

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Not if when it was installed in the first place use on the log in screen was put on, anas this is always loaded even if you do not decide to load nvda at start up. Its a special kind of cut down version just for secure screens.
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 10:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down


OK, but why would it talk if it’s not loaded? If it’s never been started up, shouldn’t it stay silent?
Mary


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On Nov 11, 2017, at 2:12 PM, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi
When the Windows log-in and lock screen come into play, a Different NVDA profile is used to the one related to your user-id and it may be this that is providing speech during the shut-down process. Unless you specifically copy a modified profile across for system usage, it will use the default synth which is E-speak.

Cheers
Chris

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Subject: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

I have this new machine and it has NVDA on it. But in Vda does not load at start up. We are having some problems with the machine, and my husband thought he had narrowed it down to stuff screwing up when you restart rather than shutting down the machine. Anyway, with NVDA not loaded when the machine is shutting down, occasionally will hang up and e speak will start talking. That is not the synthesizer I have selected. But it does talk. And it is happened on a few occasions. When he took it back to the store to let the tech look at it, it did that once, and now the tech is blaming the whole thing on NVDA. I’m sure that’s not correct, but I don’t know what to tell them.
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Re: NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

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Well it is, almost. It can be set to 0, but still occasionally popped up for no real obvious reason
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down


Speaking of uac, it used to be possible to disable that. I don’t know if that’s still true with windows 10. It saves a lot of hassle. I suppose there are security implications of coarse.
Mary


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On Nov 11, 2017, at 1:21 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

Well the uac can be.

To be honest when I get a system like this I just do a reformat and load things myself and test, test, test.

Usually when I load my configs it doesn't do that.

If it does its bios, drivers or both.

The issue is when I have to deal with user software which gets in the way.

I can do it that way but it takes longer, and costs the client and myself more time.

I'd prefur to just reformat and reinstall windows and then I have an easier time.

Ofcause after that loading each bit of software at a time will eventually yeald the error.

9 times out of 10 at that stage its new or updated software.

And if it gets to that state I use google.

Sometimes a user needs a function and then just cracks software that needs it or installs malware full software to get it working.

At that point I just ask them for the function and then I can google that.

There is enough free opensource or low cost software that I either find the entire package or the modules I need and if I am lucky a wrapper front end to put them together.

The issue is then to convince the user to use said software.

I would to be honest ask the tech what stuff is on there.

ANd just get it reformatted and ask to get its hardware tested the unit cleaned, sure its going to cost a bit but you have already got it in the shop and are generating costs so get it done.

I have just had a system revived that stopped working the entire os crashed, the system died.

Regreasing the syncs, clearing the dust and replacing the power supply and all small fans and its up.




On 12/11/2017 8:55 a.m., Mary Otten wrote:
I have this new machine and it has NVDA on it. But in Vda does not load at start up. We are having some problems with the machine, and my husband thought he had narrowed it down to stuff screwing up when you restart rather than shutting down the machine. Anyway, with NVDA not loaded when the machine is shutting down, occasionally will hang up and e speak will start talking. That is not the synthesizer I have selected. But it does talk. And it is happened on a few occasions. When he took it back to the store to let the tech look at it, it did that once, and now the tech is blaming the whole thing on NVDA. I’m sure that’s not correct, but I don’t know what to tell them.
Mary


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Hmm, sounds like they got the old issue of the uninstalls removing something it should not have. this was how a friend ended up having to re register every dll to get the internet browsing back up since some piece of software mucked up the registry.
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Well, this is a new machine. I have 15 days to send it back no problem. So if they don’t get it up and running and let me have it home by the time I 15 days are done, I will except it. I already told them in the store to take off all the crap where including the virus trials etc. and make it look like nice pure clean windows. They said they would do it. And it look like they had, but there is this funky little problem. So we shall see. But so far, I’m not generating any cost, because I still have a week before it’s mine so to speak. Should be back on Tuesday. If problems arise again by next weekend, it’s gone for good.

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On Nov 11, 2017, at 1:21 PM, Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@gmail.com> wrote:

Well the uac can be.

To be honest when I get a system like this I just do a reformat and load things myself and test, test, test.

Usually when I load my configs it doesn't do that.

If it does its bios, drivers or both.

The issue is when I have to deal with user software which gets in the way.

I can do it that way but it takes longer, and costs the client and myself more time.

I'd prefur to just reformat and reinstall windows and then I have an easier time.

Ofcause after that loading each bit of software at a time will eventually yeald the error.

9 times out of 10 at that stage its new or updated software.

And if it gets to that state I use google.

Sometimes a user needs a function and then just cracks software that needs it or installs malware full software to get it working.

At that point I just ask them for the function and then I can google that.

There is enough free opensource or low cost software that I either find the entire package or the modules I need and if I am lucky a wrapper front end to put them together.

The issue is then to convince the user to use said software.

I would to be honest ask the tech what stuff is on there.

ANd just get it reformatted and ask to get its hardware tested the unit cleaned, sure its going to cost a bit but you have already got it in the shop and are generating costs so get it done.

I have just had a system revived that stopped working the entire os crashed, the system died.

Regreasing the syncs, clearing the dust and replacing the power supply and all small fans and its up.




On 12/11/2017 8:55 a.m., Mary Otten wrote:
I have this new machine and it has NVDA on it. But in Vda does not load at start up. We are having some problems with the machine, and my husband thought he had narrowed it down to stuff screwing up when you restart rather than shutting down the machine. Anyway, with NVDA not loaded when the machine is shutting down, occasionally will hang up and e speak will start talking. That is not the synthesizer I have selected. But it does talk. And it is happened on a few occasions. When he took it back to the store to let the tech look at it, it did that once, and now the tech is blaming the whole thing on NVDA. I’m sure that’s not correct, but I don’t know what to tell them.
Mary


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Re: NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

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Unfortunately increasingly these days they keep a hidden partition and restore from there but this leaves all the crap that many shops ship with the machine as a sponsorship deal to keep the selling price down. In the end the money you pay attach to take it all off is better spent with a local shop you know and trust who can just put on what you ask for not the entire contents of the software store as demos.
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 9:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down


Well the uac can be.

To be honest when I get a system like this I just do a reformat and load things myself and test, test, test.

Usually when I load my configs it doesn't do that.

If it does its bios, drivers or both.

The issue is when I have to deal with user software which gets in the way.

I can do it that way but it takes longer, and costs the client and myself more time.

I'd prefur to just reformat and reinstall windows and then I have an easier time.

Ofcause after that loading each bit of software at a time will eventually yeald the error.

9 times out of 10 at that stage its new or updated software.

And if it gets to that state I use google.

Sometimes a user needs a function and then just cracks software that needs it or installs malware full software to get it working.

At that point I just ask them for the function and then I can google that.

There is enough free opensource or low cost software that I either find the entire package or the modules I need and if I am lucky a wrapper front end to put them together.

The issue is then to convince the user to use said software.

I would to be honest ask the tech what stuff is on there.

ANd just get it reformatted and ask to get its hardware tested the unit cleaned, sure its going to cost a bit but you have already got it in the shop and are generating costs so get it done.

I have just had a system revived that stopped working the entire os crashed, the system died.

Regreasing the syncs, clearing the dust and replacing the power supply and all small fans and its up.




On 12/11/2017 8:55 a.m., Mary Otten wrote:
I have this new machine and it has NVDA on it. But in Vda does not load at start up. We are having some problems with the machine, and my husband thought he had narrowed it down to stuff screwing up when you restart rather than shutting down the machine. Anyway, with NVDA not loaded when the machine is shutting down, occasionally will hang up and e speak will start talking. That is not the synthesizer I have selected. But it does talk. And it is happened on a few occasions. When he took it back to the store to let the tech look at it, it did that once, and now the tech is blaming the whole thing on NVDA. I’m sure that’s not correct, but I don’t know what to tell them.
Mary


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Well, might be a blessing that, see my previous reply to this.

Could be a rogue machine, they do exist.

However you probably did tick the start on log in screen when you installed it.
Most people do, but if you want your current settings and synth to be used you need to use that button on the general settings page to copy the settings over.
I cannot think of any scenario where nvda can cause the effect. its far more likely to be some kind of anti virus problem or hardware or a software problem with drivers.
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Sent: Saturday, November 11, 2017 8:55 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down


Hi David,
I know for sure that NVDA is not set up to speak anywhere, not on the login screen and not after start up. As for that other question about the voice synthesizer, I believe so. But the machine is back at the store for the tech to try to fix this strange problem that the machine is having. So I don’t know. Unfortunately, if he really didn’t believe my husband that this problem started before NVDA was installed and continued after, well I don’t know. He will probably uninstall NVDA and think his work is done. And then the machine will go back to the store for good and I will have to start looking for another one. At another store.
Mary


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On Nov 11, 2017, at 12:49 PM, David Griffith <daj.griffith@gmail.com> wrote:

This sounds unusual behaviour.
NVDA has two modes.
Normally at the login level in my experience only ESpeak is available. If NVDA is speaking with eSpeak when it is not your selected synthetiser it mormally means that you are either at the login screen or in some part of the log out process. NVDA will also speak sometimes with eSpeak whilst Windows updates are being applied.
To start with the basics, if you go to NVDA settings with NVDA plus N and look under General Preferences doyou have NVDA set to start automatically and also to speak at the Login screen?
Simialrly have you checked your synthetiser and voice settings also in NVDA settings?

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From: Mary Otten
Sent: 11 November 2017 19:55
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA speaking even when it’s not loaded when there’s a problem with shut down

I have this new machine and it has NVDA on it. But in Vda does not load at start up. We are having some problems with the machine, and my husband thought he had narrowed it down to stuff screwing up when you restart rather than shutting down the machine. Anyway, with NVDA not loaded when the machine is shutting down, occasionally will hang up and e speak will start talking. That is not the synthesizer I have selected. But it does talk. And it is happened on a few occasions. When he took it back to the store to let the tech look at it, it did that once, and now the tech is blaming the whole thing on NVDA. I’m sure that’s not correct, but I don’t know what to tell them.
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I don't know but this has nothing to do with the problem here. its a simple issue of failing startup or shutdown of a machine and nvda is unlikely to be the cause of that.

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I hope nvda doesn't began to die now that the main developer has left
does any one know if they found a replacement developer?

On 11/11/2017 12:55 PM, Mary Otten wrote:
I have this new machine and it has NVDA on it. But in Vda does not load at start up. We are having some problems with the machine, and my husband thought he had narrowed it down to stuff screwing up when you restart rather than shutting down the machine. Anyway, with NVDA not loaded when the machine is shutting down, occasionally will hang up and e speak will start talking. That is not the synthesizer I have selected. But it does talk. And it is happened on a few occasions. When he took it back to the store to let the tech look at it, it did that once, and now the tech is blaming the whole thing on NVDA. I’m sure that’s not correct, but I don’t know what to tell them.
Mary


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